Once upon a time.... in a Reality far away... there was a Great Wall
In MY reality, or at least the reality I came from :P , this wall was known as THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA. I just saw a moviw featuring that wall a few weeks ago
Well today I posted a "Scary Thought of the Day" post on FB
SCARY THOUGHT OF THE DAY
Hu-mons died in 2012 when the Kill Shot from the Sun fried the planet... what you are experiencing is residual memories in the Matrix, not reality :P As the Matrix breaks down you will see an increase in effects like the Mandella Effect as reality begins to fade as the program slowly dissolves
So I got an interesting reply;
George Rohan Neubaurer: "Canberra the capital of Australia and the Great Wall of India got me"
Wait WHAT? great Wall of India? All my years of documenting ancient sites I never EVER heard of this...
So I had to google this and LO AND BEHOLD what do I find?
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Rajsamand, India
The Great Wall of IndiaThe second-longest continuous wall on the planet protects a hidden secret in the deserts of India (http://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzL2MwZGFhNTI2Y2MzYzU4OWRhNWViNTg5YTA5ZTczNTQ5NmUzYWEwZmIuanBnIl0sWyJwIiwidGh1bWIiLCI5ODB4PiJdLFsicCIsImNvbnZlcnQiLCItcXVhbGl0eSA5MSAtYXV0by1vcmllbnQiXV0/c0daa526cc3c589da5eb589a09e735496e3aa0fb.jpg)
QuoteThe wall that surrounds the ancient fort of Kumbhalgarh is one of the best-kept secrets in India, and perhaps the world. Protecting a massive fort that contains over 300 ancient temples, the wall was constructed half a millennium ago in tandem with Kumbhalgarh Fort itself.
Often referred to as Kumbhalgarh Wall or simply as Kumbhalgarh Fort as a whole, the wall is perhaps best known by its most sensational — and fitting — name: The Great Wall of India. This is appropriate, as the wall extends over 36 Kilometers around the perimeter of the fort, making it the second-longest continuous wall on the planet after the far more well-known Great Wall of China.
Its anonymity is mystifying, since this is no crumbling line of bricks fascinating only by description. The wall is massive, and breathtakingly majestic as it snakes through valleys and along mountaintops, again bearing a striking resemblance to its cousin in China. At its widest sections, the wall is 15 meters thick, and beautifully masoned with thousands of stone bricks and decorative flourishes along the top, making this just as attractive as a tourist destination as it once was effective as a deterrent.
This gaudy defense is fitting for the perimeter wall of Kumbhalgarh Fort – itself a hulking, imposing construction, with its many pregnant ramparts bowing out into the desert in boulder-like configurations, stacked atop on another and giving the fort the appearance of a mountain.
Visitors should beware that this piece of history, while alluring and well-preserved, is not well-trafficked. That remoteness and the potential to have miles of ruins all to oneself is appealing to plenty of off-the-beaten-path travelers, but the walls are tall, the stone hard, and while many of the traps and defensive mechanisms along the wall and fort have been deactivated, that does not mean accidents cannot happen.
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http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/great-wall-india
So tracing sources I find only one source originally dated to 2004
Asawa, Dr. Krishnadas Nair (2004). Kumbhalgarh the invicible fort (5th ed.). Jodhpur: =Rajasthani Granthagar.
Wikipedia has that reference but all other references only start from 2014
BBC covered it in 2015
"Seven unknown architectural wonders". BBC. 3 February 2015. Retrieved 5 February 2015.
So was this 'hidden" all these years in such a traveled and over populated region that India is or did it just 'appear' in THIS time line
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbhalgarh
PS I can not address the capital of Australia comment as I don't ever recall what it was :P maybe our friends from Down Under might handles this one
Quote from: zorgon on April 26, 2017, 09:48:34 PM
PS I can not address the capital of Australia comment as I don't ever recall what it was :P maybe our friends from Down Under might handles this one
Well, that part is right, Canberra is the capital of Australia. BTW, very interesting question you posted about the kill shot and the residuals. Pondering, and its been noted before by other people Z. ;)
How come we still have to pay bills, buy food, etc. Must be residuals, well I will be glad when they've faded altogether.
What's the next step after the residuals have faded though?
Aha, have found the answer myself. Our consciousness just travels to another so called reality, like the jump room. :P
Now I got Eddie, my beloved feline in May, 2011 and he is still here with me; which means he must have jumped with me.
I can just imagine my consciousness floating over to his consciousness so he stuck with me when we landed in this current one. :P
Hmm, I don't recall ever hearing mention of the great wall of India :o Have you tried looking on google earth and backing it up?
As for the kill shot, biggles, ponder this; this timeline was already here, running parallel with no telling how many other lines concurrently; not everyone here that is aware of the "Mandela" differences crossed from the destroyed earth...
you and Eddie might have already been here in this one; are there any people that you have known for a very long time that have suddenly changed personality or their character?
We travel together in groups; to the best of my knowledge my immediate family group is intact; several close friends are still the same, yet others I have known for many years are suddenly strangers...
Seeker
Quote from: the seeker on April 27, 2017, 02:11:41 AM
Hmm, I don't recall ever hearing mention of the great wall of India :o Have you tried looking on google earth and backing it up?
As for the kill shot, biggles, ponder this; this timeline was already here, running parallel with no telling how many other lines concurrently; not everyone here that is aware of the "Mandela" differences crossed from the destroyed earth...
you and Eddie might have already been here in this one; are there any people that you have known for a very long time that have suddenly changed personality or their character?
We travel together in groups; to the best of my knowledge my immediate family group is intact; several close friends are still the same, yet others I have known for many years are suddenly strangers...
Seeker
Great wall of India:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nY0pk3IhGo
A double Wait...What?
A wall in India? and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGVqIQ12szs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_2012
The solar storm of 2012 was an unusually large and strong coronal mass ejection (CME) event that occurred on July 23 that year. It missed the Earth with a margin of approximately nine days, as the Sun rotates around its own axis with a period of about 25 days.[1] The region that produced the outburst was thus not pointed directly towards the Earth at that time. The strength of the eruption was comparable to the 1859 Carrington event that caused damage to electric equipment worldwide, which at that time consisted mostly of telegraph stations.[2]
I remember, a story about a solar flare, but I don't recall it being this big of a deal.
Was it a direct hit in another timeline?
I watched a show tonight about what would be the result of a killshot. It would not be good especially for urban dwellers and the elderly. The estimate in the show was up to 6 billion would die as a result of not being able to adapt and survival of the fittest.
There are a lot of opinions around Mic that as Zorgon stated kill shot took its toll and we have moved.
Apparently to the Sagittarius arm of the universe, I forget where we were before that. Therefore maybe that is why the ME has manifested.
I'm not worried though honey.
with regards to reply #8
Mic... holy cow...
a quick search shows that everything about it is AFTER the fact...
quess no one wanted to be the one that yelled DUCK..!!!
https://www.google.com/#q=CME+July+23,+2012
I can't believe we are just hearing about all this now. Especially since you Sky, are our number 1 go to cosmic event advisor.
Weird indeed.
BHAHAHAHAHAHA..Really has Z not told us time and again to read the forum
geeeeeeeze Mic after your remark about me i thought DAMN why didn't i think of it sooner and went to the Space news and weather section and back to the first two pages and wal-la
there are the posts about the CME's...,, i copied only a couple of links here
but go back to the start of the posts and just scan down thru the list
seems that 2012 had a lot of CME's as well as many other sky things going on
and no i am not the only poster :P
i guess if you switch time lines or stay in one.. you don't realize that the other starts/stops at a certain spot till later..
guess that's why someone said hind sight is 100%
Wow again...we have a good library right here on more than we realized
YEAHHHHHH us... ;D
Topic: X5-class solar flare reaches earth March 8th
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=958.0
strange sun thing 3-11-12
« on: March 11, 2012, 06:34:02 PM »
Topic: X5-class solar flare reaches earth March 8th
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=940.0
Topic: X5-class solar flare reaches earth March 8th
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=581.0
Strongest solar storm since 2005 hitting Earth
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=569.0
Topic: EARTH-DIRECTED SOLAR FLARE - Jan. 19
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=246.0
CME Impact
« on: October 24, 2011, 09:38:22 PM »
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1552.0
Double CME bound for Earth.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2064.0
sunday 7-22 Go online to watch big asteroid zoom past our planet
Quote from: space otter on April 28, 2017, 02:25:25 PM
with regards to reply #8
Mic... holy cow...
a quick search shows that everything about it is AFTER the fact...
quess no one wanted to be the one that yelled DUCK..!!!
Okay for a minute there I was taken off guard... so I did a google search and LO and BEHOLD all th Ed Dames info is still there at least it is on my computer
The C2C interviews, the ATS threads and even Ed Dames original warning DVD so WHEW that part of reality is still intact... but this is the first that I have heard about NASA admitting it almost happened...
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So yeah it was a BIG DEAl at the time and the whole ED DAMES STORY has big connections to Pegasus on several fronts
So it really WAS a close hit in THIS timeline :P
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yeah and the day before this
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2064.0
sunday 7-22 Go online to watch big asteroid zoom past our planet
lots of stuff in 2012..lots !
Considering all the chaos and uproar surrounding 2012 and the rampant doom porn, I don't see how we missed a near kill shot on July 23rd :o for I do not have any memory of it...
I am also amazed that Nasa admitted it was a close call
Seeker
Quote from: the seeker on April 30, 2017, 02:51:44 AM
Considering all the chaos and uproar surrounding 2012 and the rampant doom porn, I don't see how we missed a near kill shot on July 23rd :o for I do not have any memory of it...
I am also amazed that Nasa admitted it was a close call
Seeker
I don't believe most of what Never A Straight Answer says, just saying.
Quote from: biggles on April 30, 2017, 03:50:39 AM
I don't believe most of what Never A Straight Answer says, just saying.
You don't believe it was a close call?
Seeker said
QuoteConsidering all the chaos and uproar surrounding 2012 and the rampant doom porn, I don't see how we missed a near kill shot on July 23rd :o for I do not have any memory of it...
i don't think we did miss it.. i think because of all of the 2012 stuff we were at saturation point and just took it as another piece of doom porn and chaos
what i really can't believe is that 2012 was 5 years ago..geeeeeeeze
don't you find that our sensitivity to this stuff has dulled?..it's become just another story - observe and move on...
Quote from: the seeker on April 30, 2017, 02:51:44 AM
Considering all the chaos and uproar surrounding 2012 and the rampant doom porn, I don't see how we missed a near kill shot on July 23rd :o for I do not have any memory of it...
I am also amazed that Nasa admitted it was a close call
Seeker
This is my point. How did we miss this?
Sky in all of your links that you provided in regards to CME's posted on this forum, I could not find anything about this particular event. The asteroid on the 22 nd of July is a different event.
If NASA knew about this and didn't tell or warn us, that does not give one a very good feeling.
I think this is why we didn't remember it. We weren't told about it!!!!
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/23jul_superstorm
July 23, 2014: If an asteroid big enough to knock modern civilization back to the 18th century appeared out of deep space and buzzed the Earth-Moon system, the near-miss would be instant worldwide headline news.
Two years ago, Earth experienced a close shave just as perilous, but most newspapers didn't mention it. The "impactor" was an extreme solar storm, the most powerful in as much as 150+ years.
"If it had hit, we would still be picking up the pieces," says Daniel Baker of the University of Colorado.
And this is a sobering statistic.
In February 2014, physicist Pete Riley of Predictive Science Inc. published a paper in Space Weather entitled "On the probability of occurrence of extreme space weather events." In it, he analyzed records of solar storms going back 50+ years. By extrapolating the frequency of ordinary storms to the extreme, he calculated the odds that a Carrington-class storm would hit Earth in the next ten years.
The answer: 12%.
Mic we didn't miss it....it missed us
http://earthsky.org/space/can-the-july-2012-solar-storm-help-society-prepare-for-disaster
The most talked-about historical CME is probably the famous Carrington event of 1859. It was strong enough to have wreaked havoc on earthly technologies, if today's technologies had existed at that time. During that event, the sun blasted Earth's atmosphere hard enough that New Englanders could read their newspapers at night by aurora light.
The July 23, 2012 event on the sun was likely more powerful than the Carrington event of 1859, Baker said.
It just wasn't aimed our way.
when i searched i wasn't looking for a kill shot i was looking for a CME but following Z'z lead on what he found here in reply #15
Sep 26, 2014 - On July 23, 2012, a massive cloud of solar material erupted off the sun's right side, zooming out into space. It soon passed one of NASA's Solar ...
Modeling Extreme Space Weather Scenarios: July 23, 2012 Rare ...
adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2014AGUFMSM31A4166N
by CM Ngwira - 2014
Title: Modeling Extreme Space Weather Scenarios: July 23, 2012 Rare-Type CME. Authors: Ngwira, C. M.; Pulkkinen, A. A.. Affiliation: AA(NASA Goddard Space ...
Proposed step to help society prepare for a solar storm disaster ...
earthsky.org/space/can-the-july-2012-solar-storm-help-society-prepare-for-disaster
Dec 10, 2013 - The orbiting Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) captured this image of a powerful coronal mass ejection, or CME, on July 23, 2012.
and what you said above i looked again and the one earlier in march 2012 has lots of info it was a CME X5 and well documented before and after
but the july 23rd one wasn't aimed in our direction to begin with
http://earthsky.org/space/another-major-solar-flare-during-night-of-march-6-7-2012
Powerful solar flare during night of March 6-7, 2012
By Deborah Byrd in SPACE | March 7, 2012
The March 6-7, 2012 was an X5-class eruption. It was the second major solar flare in a week. Its effects are now headed for Earth.
so i think it's a case of much ado about nothing...
it did happen but it wasn't aimed at us so there was nothing to remember
this is getting sooooooo messed up...sigh
I wonder if we knew a giant CME was heading our way, is there anything we could do to prepare?
Grounding aircraft would be a good idea for example. Modern planes fly by gps and have computerized landings. Landing them with the power grid down would be terrible.
I realize what the surge would do to the power grids. However, what would happen if the grid was shut down prior to the surge?
For example if my TV is on, and a lightning strike hits power lines close to my house, chances are good my TV would be fried. However if I had unplugged the TV prior to the storm, no damage would be done to it.
http://earthsky.org/space/can-the-july-2012-solar-storm-help-society-prepare-for-disaster
Baker said in a press release issued December 9:
My space weather colleagues believe that until we have an event that slams Earth and causes complete mayhem, policymakers are not going to pay attention. The message we are trying to convey is that we made direct measurements of the 2012 event and saw the full consequences without going through a direct hit on our planet.
We have proposed that the 2012 event be adopted as the best estimate of the worst case space weather scenario. We argue that this extreme event should be immediately employed by the space weather community to model severe space weather effects on technological systems such as the electrical power grid.
I liken it to war games – since we have the information about the event, let's play it through our various models and see what happens. If we do this, we would be a significant step closer to providing policymakers with real-world, concrete kinds of information that can be used to explore what would happen to various technologies on Earth and in orbit rather than waiting to be clobbered by a direct hit.
Bottom line: Scientists at the University of Colorado Boulder would like policy makers to use the July 23, 2012 solar storm and its CME – which was measured by our spacecraft – in modeling responses to a similar CME that might be aimed our way.
Read more about C-U scientists' thoughts on the need to prepare for powerful solar storms
http://www.colorado.edu/today/2013/12/09/cu-boulder-scientist-2012-solar-storm-points-need-society-prepare
Quote from: micjer on April 30, 2017, 03:04:24 PM
I realize what the surge would do to the power grids. However, what would happen if the grid was shut down prior to the surge?
From what they say here (http://aviationweek.com/awin/major-solar-event-could-devastate-power-grid), the biggest problem is the transformers connected to the power grid, as those are not made to be easily disconnected and would try to convert the power surge, probably blowing out in the process and leaving the power grid with a lot of transformer needing replacement.
That makes sense. Would not be a good scenario.
Quote from: space otter on April 30, 2017, 02:07:11 PM
what i really can't believe is that 2012 was 5 years ago..geeeeeeeze
Yes that is another issue I was looking at... things happen and then what seems like only a few months later we find it was umpteen years ago... It feels like time is speeding by so fats we can barely keep up... yet in our daily lives it seems normal.. hard to put into words what I am trying to say
Quotedon't you find that our sensitivity to this stuff has dulled?..it's become just another story - observe and move on...
Yes it has... and it is likely the main reason people have spent less time at forums. Even FB I see fewer and fewer people interested in the big stuff and tend to lean more toward making fun of you or making troll posts rather than responding to the topic...
I get a few 'likes' and shares on some of the posts but its usually under 6 people that actually focus on the topic so even from my own friend database at FB there is little real interest
Unfortunately, it has been 5 years 8) I was in Vegas on Halloween for the startup of the ALI certification process, was tickled to death that I got to spend time with Zorgon and John Lear; still have my autographed tin foil hat hanging on the wall 8) That was in 2012.
In the following 5 years work was very hectic, averaging 60-70 hours a week in 5 days, plus having to travel all over the country...
it was in 2014 that the meltdown with PWM and company happened, late fall I think; my point is, and I know that this applies to myself and Zorgon, it has been such a frenzied ordeal just making it from one day to the next we just haven't paid attention to more than making it thru that day, each day...
Seeker
Just some food for thought while we are here... The Hopi Elders believe that there will be a day of purification, and those true to the ancient ways will move to a different reality...
Also, a CME5 event, if it is a direct hit, would take out all the satellites, probably utterly destroy the power grid, virtually everything electronic not shielded in a Farraday cage, and quite possibly deplete and strip a large percentage of the atmosphere...
not to mention the extreme dosage of ionizing radiation...
Killshot does seem to be an appropriate title...
Seeker
As I've gotten older and now retired, I find my interest has waned somewhat. I get up early every morning, with every intention of looking for moon anomalies or working on the 'business' or swearing in going to tackle that next project, only to find by noon I'm ready to each lunch and take a nap. Then my grandkids stop by and I forget about what I was doing in the morning.
I find I'm contemplating my own mortality when I realize i'm closer to the end than the beginning.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 01, 2017, 03:33:03 AM
As I've gotten older and now retired, I find my interest has waned somewhat. I get up early every morning, with every intention of looking for moon anomalies or working on the 'business' or swearing in going to tackle that next project, only to find by noon I'm ready to each lunch and take a nap. Then my grandkids stop by and I forget about what I was doing in the morning.
I find I'm contemplating my own mortality when I realize i'm closer to the end than the beginning.
Feel you on that Sarge, tired beyond words, But your getting closer to a new beginning which is a whole lot better. xo
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 01, 2017, 03:33:03 AM
As I've gotten older and now retired, I find my interest has waned somewhat. I get up early every morning, with every intention of looking for moon anomalies or working on the 'business' or swearing in going to tackle that next project, only to find by noon I'm ready to each lunch and take a nap. Then my grandkids stop by and I forget about what I was doing in the morning.
I find I'm contemplating my own mortality when I realize i'm closer to the end than the beginning.
We are still youing men, Sarge, naught but babes in the woods on the grand scale of things 8) and I find it is my state of mind and mindset that does more and means more than anything...
We all volunteer to come here, and still have much journeying on the long road home; I focus on what lies before me today, my grandkids, and smile at what they do; there is too much for me to be positive about...
And don't worry about the expiration date on that meatsuit; it is just a container 8)
Seeker
Quote from: the seeker on May 01, 2017, 03:08:58 AM
Just some food for thought while we are here... The Hopi Elders believe that there will be a day of purification, and those true to the ancient ways will move to a different reality...
Well I for one am true to the Ancient Ways :P And am ready to return to the Realm of Faerie :D
Happy Walpurgisnacht :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U10ftE4XQvo
QuoteAlso, a CME5 event, if it is a direct hit, would take out all the satellites, probably utterly destroy the power grid, virtually everything electronic not shielded in a Farraday cage, and quite possibly deplete and strip a large percentage of the atmosphere...
And after that how long do you thing the Snowflakes, Valley Girls, Nerds and Geeks will survive without cell phone or wifi?
A week?
8)
And the preppers won't last long if they don't have firearms to fend off the non-preppers that do.
Give me your food or I'll blow your head off mentality.
And move away from down wind of the nuke plants that will overheat. Multiple fukushima events once backup generators run out of fuel to keep spent fuel rods cool.
Quote from: biggles on May 01, 2017, 03:54:40 AM
Feel you on that Sarge, tired beyond words, But your getting closer to a new beginning which is a whole lot better. xo
I'm not sad or fearful of what's to come. Call it excited and anxious wonderment..... 8)
to borrow my mother's words (at 95)
I'm glad i'm this old...
i think a whole lot of us are more than ready to move on..even while questioning what the heck we will move on too....sigh
from my understanding (limited thou it is) here we have a choice next dimension not
we choose here what comes next...and that's how the heaven and hell thing got started
i'm not choosing clouds and harps but kind and calm
blessed beltane to all
Quote from: the seeker on May 01, 2017, 03:08:58 AM
Also, a CME5 event, if it is a direct hit, would take out all the satellites, probably utterly destroy the power grid, virtually everything electronic not shielded in a Farraday cage, and quite possibly deplete and strip a large percentage of the atmosphere...
After reading some texts about CMEs I doubt it would have that effect, as the effect on power lines is a result of the low frequency of such events, so they can only induce electric currents on long conductors, in the same way alternate current cannot be used on very long power lines, as they would turn into radio emitters.
PS: I couldn't find any definition for what is a CME5 event, do you have a source?
does this help?
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/the-difference-between-flares-and-cmes
CME Week: The Difference Between Flares and CMEs
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https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/nasa-s-solar-dynamics-observatory-captured-trio-of-solar-flares-april-2-3
April 3, 2017
NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory Captured Trio of Solar Flares April 2-3
The sun emitted a trio of mid-level solar flares on April 2-3, 2017. The first peaked at 4:02 a.m. EDT on April 2, the second peaked at 4:33 p.m. EDT on April 2, and the third peaked at 10:29 a.m. EDT on April 3. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory, which watches the sun constantly, captured images of the three events. Solar flares are powerful bursts of radiation. Harmful radiation from a flare cannot pass through Earth's atmosphere to physically affect humans on the ground, however — when intense enough — they can disturb the atmosphere in the layer where GPS and communications signals travel.
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April 26, 2017
Scientists Propose Mechanism to Describe Solar Eruptions of All Sizes
From long, tapered jets to massive explosions of solar material and energy, eruptions on the sun come in many shapes and sizes. Since they erupt at such vastly different scales, jets and the massive clouds — called coronal mass ejections, or CMEs — were previously thought to be driven by different processes.
Scientists from Durham University in the United Kingdom and NASA now propose that a universal mechanism can explain the whole spectrum of solar eruptions. They used 3-D computer simulations to demonstrate that a variety of eruptions can theoretically be thought of as the same kind of event, only in different sizes and manifested in different ways. Their work is summarized in a paper published in Nature on April 26, 2017.
Follow the evolution of a jet eruption in this video, which uses a 3-D computer simulation of the breakout model to demonstrate how a filament forms, gains energy and erupts from the sun.
Credits: NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center/ARMS/Genna Duberstein, producer
Download this video in HD formats from NASA Goddard's Scientific Visualization Studio
The study was motivated by high-resolution observations of filaments from NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory, or SDO, and the joint Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency/NASA Hinode satellite. Filaments are dark, serpentine structures that are suspended above the sun's surface and consist of dense, cold solar material. The onset of CME eruptions had long been known to be associated with filaments, but improved observations have recently shown that jets have similar filament-like structures before eruption too. So the scientists set out to see if they could get their computer simulations to link filaments to jet eruptions as well.
"In CMEs, filaments are large, and when they become unstable, they erupt," said Peter Wyper, a solar physicist at Durham University and the lead author of the study. "Recent observations have shown the same thing may be happening in smaller events such as coronal jets. Our theoretical model shows the jet can essentially be described as a mini-CME."
Solar scientists can use computer models like this to help round out their understanding of the observations they see through space telescopes. The models can be used to test different theories, essentially creating simulated experiments that cannot, of course, be performed on an actual star in real life.
The scientists call their proposed mechanism for how these filaments lead to eruptions the breakout model, for the way the stressed filament pushes relentlessly at — and ultimately breaks through — its magnetic restraints into space. They previously used this model to describe CMEs; in this study, the scientists adapted the model to smaller events and were able to reproduce jets in the computer simulations that match the SDO and Hinode observations. Such simulations provide additional confirmation to support the observations that first suggested coronal jets and CMEs are caused in the same way.
"The breakout model unifies our picture of what's going on at the sun," said Richard DeVore, a co-author of the study and solar physicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. "Within a unified context, we can advance understanding of how these eruptions are started, how to predict them and how to better understand their consequences."
The key for understanding a solar eruption, according to Wyper, is recognizing how the filament system loses equilibrium, which triggers eruption. In the breakout model, the culprit is magnetic reconnection — a process in which magnetic field lines come together and explosively realign into a new configuration.
In stable conditions, loops of magnetic field lines hold the filament down and suppress eruption. But the filament naturally wants to expand outward, which stresses its magnetic surroundings over time and eventually initiates magnetic reconnection. The process explosively releases the energy stored in the filament, which breaks out from the sun's surface and is ejected into space.
Exactly which kind of eruption occurs depends on the initial strength and configuration of the magnetic field lines containing the filament. In a CME, field lines form closed loops completely surrounding the filament, so a bubble-shaped cloud ultimately bursts from the sun. In jets, nearby fields lines stream freely from the surface into interplanetary space, so solar material from the filament flows out along those reconnected lines away from the sun.
"Now we have the possibility to explain a continuum of eruptions through the same process," Wyper said. "With this mechanism, we can understand the similarities between small jets and massive CMEs, and infer eruptions anywhere in between."
Confirming this theoretical mechanism will require high-resolution observations of the magnetic field and plasma flows in the solar atmosphere, especially around the sun's poles where many jets originate — and that's data that currently are not available. For now, scientists look to upcoming missions such as NASA's Solar Probe Plus and the joint ESA (European Space Agency)/NASA Solar Orbiter, which will acquire novel measurements of the sun's atmosphere and magnetic fields emanating from solar eruptions.
Banner image: A long filament erupted on the sun on Aug. 31, 2012, shown here in imagery captured by NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory. Credit: NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center/SDO
By Lina Tran
NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
Last Updated: April 26, 2017
Editor: Rob Garner
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http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/solar-storm-may-have-caused-months-power-failures
A Solar Storm may have Caused This Month's Power Failures
Saturday, April 29, 2017
A series of power outages across the continent that occurred on April 21 may have been caused by a geomagnetic storm. Coordinated cyberattacks were initially blamed for the events, although a fire caused by an overloaded circuit breaker in one of the major outages ruled out that theory. However, it is possible that a geomagnetic storm may have caused the near-simultaneous outages, as there had been an ongoing solar storm at the time.
While the Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) reported outages in Antioch, Brentwood, Hayward, Mountain View, Oakland, San Jose, San Leandro, Tracy, and Walnut Creek, the largest outages were experienced by New York City and San Francisco. Outages in New York began around 7:20 AM, interrupting the morning commute in the city's subway system. San Francisco went down four and a half hours later, and was hit much harder, with 90,000 customers affected for over 7 hours, effectively paralyzing the city. While the cause of New York's outage is still a mystery, San Francisco's outage was due to a fire at a substation, caused by an overloaded circuit breaker.
At the time, a moderate (G2) geomagnetic storm watch was underway, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) Space Weather Prediction Center. Despite the storm itself only being listed as "moderate", NOAA's alert does warn that one of the effects can be "Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur." This means that the increase in geomagnetic activity brought about by the storm can cause a buildup of excess electricity in power grids: while most systems will be able to handle energy spikes from such an otherwise moderate storm, systems that have been weakened could be susceptible to failure, and overload a potentially worn-out circuit breaker, as had happened in San Francisco. On the same day, a town in Ontario, Canada, also experienced a community-wide power outage, caused by a "pole fire", according to the local utility.
Unfortunately, larger storms, such as 1859's Carrington Event, have the potential to cause catastrophic, nation-wide power failures, resulting in power grid equipment failures that could take months to correct. Whitley Strieber outlines the dangers -- and what needs to be done to avert them -- in his 2012 ebook Solar Flares: What You Need to Know.
Image Credit: X1.1 class flare from the lower right of the sun on July 6, 2012...This flare caused a radio blackout...NASA via Wikimedia Commons
News Source: kitchener.com inverse.com swpc.noaa.gov
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