Unknown Craft Filmed Firing Thrusters In Front Of Moon
I don't know if we have covered this one yet
Crow talks to much :P so it takes a few minutes to get to the action. But i don't remeber covering this one before (or I missed it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Gt4crkqWk
I have not seen this one before either! A very interesting video catch, if it is "real"! It does certainly seem to present a thrusting engine craft of some sort.
Good one Z!!
I think I saw this one before, and, as it was filmed before sunset, I think what we are seeing could be the reflection of the sun on some bright surface instead of firing thrusters.
If this is a reflection of the sun I don't know what was doing the reflection, but I think it's possible that it was just an aeroplane, as I didn't notice any change in direction.
I want to say this has been discussed before, haven't had time to search for it just yet;
this was posted by Crow in 2014, and I am curious if the X-37B was in orbit at the time...
Seeker
Quote from: the seeker on May 15, 2017, 03:01:01 PM
I want to say this has been discussed before, haven't had time to search for it just yet;
this was posted by Crow in 2014, and I am curious if the X-37B was in orbit at the time...
Seeker
This video is damn interesting. I think the theory that it might be the X-37B is a sound one.
I'm editing this post. After looking at pictures of this vehicle it doesn't look like it has that kind of engine configuration. It has one bell and what looks like twin maneuvering thrusters above the bell.
Here's my take:
First this is 3 years old.
Second, if it was a craft of any kind and those are thrusters or maneuvering jets, you would expect an increase or decrease in trajectory or speed, nope doesn't do that.
Third, if it was just rotating with maneuvering jets,you would expect some changing of shape or appearance, nope it doesn't do that.
Now it could be a falling object and the tumbling effect (if that's what it's doing) would have a reflection of sunlight. If it was obtuse then that would explain the random reflections...
Just my opinion....
Oh NO, I've become ArMaP ;D
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on May 15, 2017, 08:28:06 PM
Just my opinion....
Oh NO, I've become ArMaP ;D
Then you are now short, 53, speak portugese, and no longer cajun?
https://youtu.be/-Z_slWb-UNU
This is really a wacked out timeline... :o
Sarge, what I am seeing is the craft is keeping the same vector as it travels; but if it is doing corrective short burns to increase altitude, then it is reasonable to be able to see the thrusters and not notice anything else change...
Seeker
Quote from: the seeker on May 15, 2017, 10:21:58 PM
Sarge, what I am seeing is the craft is keeping the same vector as it travels; but if it is doing corrective short burns to increase altitude, then it is reasonable to be able to see the thrusters and not notice anything else change...
And is it reasonable to see such large flame from thrusters during the day, even if close to sunset?
Well I'm no aviation geek, so I really don't know.
I was giving a very uninformed opinion only on observation.
For the amount of burn, i would expect a smaller object or a larger object per altitude change.
but as I said i'm not that informed on aviation.
It's probably a rock.... ;) ;D
Quote from: ArMaP on May 15, 2017, 11:28:53 PM
And is it reasonable to see such large flame from thrusters during the day, even if close to sunset?
Armap, to get a professional answer to that one, you are going to have to call your friend Jimmy Oberg 8) he would probably insist it was a lightning bug...
He has pointed out several times that the bright flashes we saw on a lot of NASA footage was only thrusters firing; so you tell me 8)
Seeker
To me..........the flashing light (with length) does not seem to be a "reflection", but then...........who HAS seen a "reflection" of sunlight in space, similar to this yellowish on & off light??
Just as a matter of interest and for some comparison of thought on this such, here is a current today's news story about "Mysterious flashes of light from Earth captured by NASA satellite" - none of which are associated with what looks like some sort of craft, as is seen in this OP! :)
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/05/15/mysterious-flashes-of-light-from-earth-captured-by-nasa-satellite/
Quote from: The Seeker on May 16, 2017, 02:44:50 AM
He has pointed out several times that the bright flashes we saw on a lot of NASA footage was only thrusters firing; so you tell me 8)
Looking at some thrusters firing is what makes me think we are not seeing that on this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ewbD2Pv5ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_HQ_sCUI-Q&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg4qn8GlEUQ
Quote from: rdunk on May 16, 2017, 03:40:29 AM
To me..........the flashing light (with length) does not seem to be a "reflection", but then...........who HAS seen a "reflection" of sunlight in space, similar to this yellowish on & off light??
We don't know if what we are seeing is in space or not, we only know that it's between the Earth's surface and the Moon.
I searched for videos of objects in LEO firing thrusters and being observed from the earth as Crow was; no luck finding anything...
the vids you posted are of craft in LEO being observed from LEO; whether it makes a difference or not, I don't know...But who can say?
Seeker
Quote from: The Seeker on May 16, 2017, 10:49:00 PM
the vids you posted are of craft in LEO being observed from LEO; whether it makes a difference or not, I don't know...But who can say?
One thing I think we can say is that being observed from the Earth's surface shouldn't make them more visible, as they are not that visible even when seen from a short distance.
Judging by the video below, if what we see in the video is a rocket firing then it should be something like the solid rocket boosters from the Space Shuttle, as those created a visible flame (and a lot of smoke), while the main engine doesn't create a yellow flame or any real flame, as it looks like we can only see the light the combustion creates but not something resembling a flame.
(jump to 3:39 to see the ejection of the Solid Rocket Boosters)
https://youtu.be/xIoRWIgzvbM
Quote from: ArMaP on May 16, 2017, 11:29:59 PM
Judging by the video below, if what we see in the video is a rocket firing then it should be something like the solid rocket boosters from the Space Shuttle, as those created a visible flame (and a lot of smoke), while the main engine doesn't create a yellow flame or any real flame, as it looks like we can only see the light the combustion creates but not something resembling a flame.
(jump to 3:39 to see the ejection of the Solid Rocket Boosters)
https://youtu.be/xIoRWIgzvbM
True that Armap, sounds like old tech that does. Maybe it came through from the past. lol.