This exactly what's wrong with this generation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc5x-EcvQYY
Quote from: zorgon on July 03, 2017, 05:59:57 AM
This exactly what's wrong with this generation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc5x-EcvQYY
As parents with kids of this bracket or a bit older, we didn't really have the option of harsh discipline; one of my kids, the oldest one came back with "you can't do that to me, your not allowed, I'll tell someone". Social workers would back this type of behaviour up.
I was born in 1977. Technically I'm at the tail end of X, but it disturbs me how Millennial I am psychologically, in a lot of ways. I don't have a mobile phone, but I do have a lot of their problems. At the risk of abdicating responsibility, though, I can explain the obsession with "making an impact."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMFAOvzkcEs
That's what we've been brought up with. It wasn't because of my parents specifically at all; but throughout my childhood, with the media I was exposed to, the proverbial superhero motif was constant; and I never opened a comic book before my eighteenth birthday, either. Television and film were enough.
My mother had a book called 100 Great Lives, which was a very pure distillation of the proverbial Great Man Theory. I had the idea very consistently reinforced, that a person was either Napoleon Bonaparte, or they were utterly disposable. You are either a billionaire or an anonymous drop in the ocean. You're either an alpha or nobody. There is no middle ground. I have responded to that by walking away from it and attempting to defy it as much as possible; but the psychological effect of it is with me on a literally second by second basis.
I know; many Millennials have gone through the "trophy for participation," thing, as well, which is the other extreme. The problem is not with either of these polarised extremes, in exclusion. The problem is that we have been exposed to both simultaneously.
This causes the development of an utterly unrealistic and distorted perception of the self. On the one hand you're told that you're either Bill Gates or a worthless eater, yet on the other, you have it implied that you've managed to live up to the expectation of godhood even when you come last, via the "trophy for participation."
So we end up believing that we supposedly do have a literally supernatural level of ability, yet when we come up against anything which is, in reality, even marginally difficult, we fall apart. We expect the entire universe to revolve around us; we expect everything to be completely effortless, while simultaneously being of eternal, universal significance.
At this point, I don't want another single fragging person to ever tell me how much potential I supposedly have again. I am sick of the sense of obligation that that implies. If I am a worthless eater because I barely have any money in the bank, then that's fine. I'll take it. The main reason why I had to leave Nimbin, in hindsight, is that there were times when I was just doing what I thought was completely ordinary, and then people would start gushing at me in response about how awesome I supposedly was. I can't stand that. I honestly prefer to be hated. I want mediocrity now, and I don't want trophies for it.
Aside from that, though; political correctness, Marxism, and the obsession with minorities are the three reasons why I generally don't want anything to do with Millennials. I'm especially tired of people viewing the expression of ideas which they disagree with, in the same way that they would view an act of physical violence.
I am not worried about the effect Millennials will have on society, however; because the only thing I want where mainstream society is concerned now, is to withdraw from it. I don't want to become a complete recluse; I'm still here, and am planning to go back to Nimbin, when I can stand the idea of going back to that level of stress on an ongoing basis.
I haven't given up hope where the Millennials are concerned. I've known a few of them who were genuinely decent kids, if a bit naive and overly addicted to their phones. While I'm sure that natural selection will have a part to play, I have a feeling that those who survive will actually be one of the most worthwhile generations humanity has seen for a while. The reason why is because that it's precisely because of the bad parenting they've had, that Millennials are having to completely re-invent the wheel, and totally learn everything from scratch.
Some of them will commit suicide. Some of them, however, will figure it out. (https://thewalrus.ca/meet-the-frugal-millennials-planning-for-decades-of-retirement/)
Quote from: biggles on July 03, 2017, 06:14:02 AM
the oldest one came back with "you can't do that to me, your not allowed, I'll tell someone".
"That won't be necessary. I will call an ambulance for you afterwards."
Quote from: petrus4 on July 03, 2017, 07:46:50 AM
"That won't be necessary. I will call an ambulance for you afterwards."
Ah, Petra's, you know me well 8)
question petrus,how did you get such a brilliant psychological mind?
how did it come about,from what soil did it grow?
Quote from: robomont on July 03, 2017, 11:45:12 AM
question petrus,how did you get such a brilliant psychological mind?
how did it come about,from what soil did it grow?
Lab creation :P
::)
Quote from: robomont on July 03, 2017, 11:45:12 AM
question petrus,how did you get such a brilliant psychological mind?
how did it come about,from what soil did it grow?
I've been reading about psychology, parapsychology, and both military and political philosophy for most of my life. My two main areas of interest psychologically have been multiple personality disorder and mind control. I used to think those two areas were entirely unrelated; but then I found out about Monarch. Small world. I also learned rhetoric from debating a Lutheran woman on IRC during the 90s. I miss her, and I don't think she knew how much she helped me. I've known a lot of Christians who were genuine idiots, which makes it all the more enjoyable when I encounter one of them who is intelligent.
I found out that if you learn tactical theory well enough, you can use that as an analogy to understand literally anything else. Kali has taught me a lot as well, if I am honest; but I am not really supposed to talk about that. ;)
Quote from: zorgon on July 03, 2017, 12:10:42 PM
Lab creation :P
::)
Almost. I've had the LSD, at this point.
Quote from: petrus4 on July 03, 2017, 01:39:34 PM
Almost. I've had the LSD, at this point.
Ufology and lsd are the perfect recipe for living in horror and fear.
It's too easy to say, "kids these days", if you're old. I try to be mindful of that tendency.
I can't completely blame millennials. I work with some and they are truly f**ked. Student loans, crap jobs, and the US shifting into 3rd world status. It takes will power to stop smoking weed and get out of mom's basement...... and for what, exactly? Young men end up viewed as sperm donors with a checkbook or drones. Young women have been raised to be princesses. Good luck with that.
There's a few positives on the horizon: the population explosion is done, over in most of the world. AI is here and REALLY incredible on your Smartphone (directions by voice). Blockchain is ready to explode and create a revolution and even the banks are behind it. Marijuana legalization is going to help huge numbers of people with chronic pain instead of depending on Big Pharma for opioids.
Big Pharma would prefer to maintain opioid dependence. It's a cash cow.
Petrus, there are places where you can talk about Kali.
Shasta
I actually find No Difference at all between age groups :P
I've worked with young Kid's and they rock and have a good work ethic, and I've worked with other's who you want to straighten out. I've worked with just as many people my age that I feel the same about, and just as many older than me that I feel the same about.
I will say one thing though... These day's anyone who has the ability to connect to the rest the world through the internet has, in fact, changed the world, but at the end of the day, the same BS occur's now as what occurred prior to the internet. Humans are Humans, just roll with it and make the most of it!
Quote from: AliensShrinkedMyPony on July 03, 2017, 02:13:42 PM
Ufology and lsd are the perfect recipe for living in horror and fear.
Actually, for true weeping, gibbering, foetal position on the floor states, artificial intelligence and transhumanism are my poisons of choice.
Yet it's funny. I am starting to find that it is in precisely those situations where peace should be hardest to find, where it is most easily available.
Quote from: petrus4 on July 04, 2017, 02:17:59 AM
Actually, for true weeping, gibbering, foetal position on the floor states, artificial intelligence and transhumanism are my poisons of choice.
Yet it's funny. I am starting to find that it is in precisely those situations where peace should be hardest to find, where it is most easily available.
you need to go back out to the woods 8)
Quote from: The Seeker on July 04, 2017, 03:23:30 AM
you need to go back out to the woods 8)
There has been serious consideration given to the idea of moving to Coober Pedy. It's an opal mining town in the middle of the desert. It's half way between Adelaide and Alice Springs, on the Sturt highway, which AFAIK is the only road connecting South Australia and the Northern Territory.
(http://www.kimberleywilderness.com.au/-/media/kimberley/images/photogallerylarge/australia/southaustralia/australia_sa_coober-pedy_town-sign-against-red-sunset-sky_apt_4136049_d_llr.jpg?h=286&w=480&crop=1)
I figure that if I am going to be safe anywhere from the depravity of Ray Kurzweil, that might be the place.
well pets r us you have made me go look up ray kurzwiel
https://www.inverse.com/article/33373-ray-kurzweil-singularity-thoughts
wow what a guy.. he's what a call someone trying to reinvent the wheel instead of using it
we are already connected to "the cloud" or in my terms the 'universe'..some quiet time and meditation and you're in..no need for skullcaps covered in electrodes
i stopped reading those sci fi (?) books.. well i think after
stranger in a strange land...lol...
just stay in the garden~sky mode and try for being happy
i have seen many programs on Coober Pedy..hey you might find some really nice opals and get rich.. i understand opals are really in now and bring a nice sum
thanks for making me go learn something new
and for what it's worth you are sounding much calmer and accepting of yourself..
congrats on that
Quote from: space otter on July 04, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
wow what a guy.. he's what a call someone trying to reinvent the wheel instead of using it
Exactly the point, otter. He is completely insane.
Quoteand for what it's worth you are sounding much calmer and accepting of yourself..
congrats on that
Thank you.
I wouldn't call having a mobile a tool of the YOUNG!
Sheesh I work with people who are in their 60's voting for singer's on the voice or x-factor! Karoke TV! They spend money on that Jank voting for them! ;D
Is it bad though? One friend at work who just turned 57 is so obsessed with Dami IM (a winner from X-Factor) that he rekindled his love of art and started drawing her in Charcoal and has Donated all money made to some Charity called Compassion which help's young kid's. He has donated 8000 AUD through his weird obsession! He has also improved his English which he is quite happy about :)
I also jumped into having a mobile last year when I was in Taiwan... They are amazing now and work much more like a computer rather than a hindrance. It's pretty amazing to be in a country where, in my case I don't know the lingo, and I can Navigate anywhere I want!
I think the main issue of this thread is that young people are either making money, or more to the point thinking they can make money by going viral on the web for being complete sap's on socitey... and I wholly agree with that ! :)
Basically SOME young people are being misled into thinking they can become the next youtube star, or instagram hit due to precence of time when total no-one's really did do just that, they became star's making money!
Once you get a new mobile with a large 5 inch screen from having nothing like me, it's awesome! They serve their purpose
I have a beef regarding age and technology! How come we are talking to home assistant's and calling them Google, Siri, Cortana or Alexa? Respect to Gene is needed here. We should pass a law so they are just called COMPUTER! ;D
Soma, I do not believe that mobile phones (and particularly smartphones) are a technology that was invented with fundamentally benevolent intentions. Good forms of technology do exist, but the smartphone is not one of them.
They were invented to make money for someone. They can be very handy when a family group of 6 or 7 is out somewhere, and trying to keep up on where everyone is. Saves a lot of walking around Disneyland yelling someone's name. It's also helpful when Grandma is stuck in traffic, and can call the 7 year old, so she isn't panicking at the bus stop. Having the phone repeatedly play the theme from SpongeBob, when said 7 year old is calling Grandma at work, is a downside.
Shasta
lol Shasta. xo
What's wrong with this generation? They were educated by the previous one.
:)
Quote from: ArMaP on July 07, 2017, 12:42:06 AM
What's wrong with this generation? They were educated by the previous one.
:)
I don't know about Portugal, ArMaP, but the American educational system is off the rails, big time.
It has been appropriated by the Left to further their political agenda.
As a deist, I'm not religious, however, I heard an interesting blog post read on local radio this afternoon. It was written by the President of Wesleyan University
Thought I'd share it. I think the message is relevant to everyone despite the non-secular source.
QuoteThis past week, I actually had a student come forward after a university chapel service and complain because he felt "victimized" by a sermon on the topic of 1 Corinthians 13. It appears this young scholar felt offended because a homily on love made him feel bad for not showing love. In his mind, the speaker was wrong for making him, and his peers, feel uncomfortable.
I'm not making this up. Our culture has actually taught our kids to be this self-absorbed and narcissistic. Any time their feelings are hurt, they are the victims. Anyone who dares challenge them and, thus, makes them "feel bad" about themselves, is a "hater," a "bigot," an "oppressor," and a "victimizer."
I have a message for this young man and all others who care to listen. That feeling of discomfort you have after listening to a sermon is called a conscience. An altar call is supposed to make you feel bad. It is supposed to make you feel guilty. The goal of many a good sermon is to get you to confess your sins—not coddle you in your selfishness. The primary objective of the Church and the Christian faith is your confession, not your self-actualization.
So here's my advice:
If you want the chaplain to tell you you're a victim rather than tell you that you need virtue, this may not be the university you're looking for. If you want to complain about a sermon that makes you feel less than loving for not showing love, this might be the wrong place.
If you're more interested in playing the "hater" card than you are in confessing your own hate; if you want to arrogantly lecture, rather than humbly learn; if you don't want to feel guilt in your soul when you are guilty of sin; if you want to be enabled rather than confronted, there are many universities across the land (in Missouri and elsewhere) that will give you exactly what you want, but Oklahoma Wesleyan isn't one of them.
At OKWU, we teach you to be selfless rather than self-centered. We are more interested in you practicing personal forgiveness than political revenge. We want you to model interpersonal reconciliation rather than foment personal conflict. We believe the content of your character is more important than the color of your skin. We don't believe that you have been victimized every time you feel guilty and we don't issue "trigger warnings" before altar calls.
Oklahoma Wesleyan is not a "safe place", but rather, a place to learn: to learn that life isn't about you, but about others; that the bad feeling you have while listening to a sermon is called guilt; that the way to address it is to repent of everything that's wrong with you rather than blame others for everything that's wrong with them. This is a place where you will quickly learn that you need to grow up.
This is not a day care. This is a university.
Source... (http://www.okwu.edu/blog/2015/11/this-is-not-a-day-care-its-a-university/)
Oh I hear you on that honey.
Armap I tried to teach by actions, it still didn't matter, two of my kids didn't give a you know what.
My mother was born in 1923 and had us late, this was before the discipline was taken away from my generation.
I think us baby boomers got the raw deal, disciplined and then given a raw deal by some of our kids and their "I am here now and entitled to bloody everything".
My tween granddaughters sometimes display that type of behavior. They're both going through puberty and middle school. That type of behavior isn't pleasant for the rest of us, but it's in line with their age. If they're still doing that in 8 or 10 years, that will be a problem.
Shasta
Quote from: ArMaP on July 07, 2017, 12:42:06 AM
What's wrong with this generation? They were educated by the previous one.
:)
Not true :P The previous generation just gave them video games and Iphones and told them "go outside and play" :P
The previous generation was not allowed to discipline the children for fear of going to jail for child abuse so they didn't teach this generation anything
The previous generation learned the hard way, went trough many wars. This generation is mostly spoiled brats that got every thing handed to them and now need puppies and cupcakes to over come the trauma when they get hit with reality
Fortunately MY kids were taught well :P
Quote from: biggles on July 07, 2017, 01:59:23 AM
My mother was born in 1923 and had us late, this was before the discipline was taken away from my generation.
I think us baby boomers got the raw deal, disciplined and then given a raw deal by some of our kids and their "I am here now and entitled to bloody everything".
What I Said :D
Quote from: zorgon on July 07, 2017, 02:15:35 AM
Not true :P The previous generation just gave them video games and Iphones and told them "go outside and play" :P
The previous generation was not allowed to discipline the children for fear of going to jail for child abuse so they didn't teach this generation anything
The previous generation learned the hard way, went trough many wars. This generation is mostly spoiled brats that got every thing handed to them and now need puppies and cupcakes to over come the trauma when they get hit with reality
Fortunately MY kids were taught well :P
Zorgon, you almost always hit the nail right squarely on the head. You nailed it.
Quote from: biggles on July 07, 2017, 01:59:23 AM
Oh I hear you on that honey.
Armap I tried to teach by actions, it still didn't matter, two of my kids didn't give a you know what.
My mother was born in 1923 and had us late, this was before the discipline was taken away from my generation.
I think us baby boomers got the raw deal, disciplined and then given a raw deal by some of our kids and their "I am here now and entitled to bloody everything".
Roger That 8) "Spare the rod and spoil the child" has never been more truthful than now; the Gen-X'ers and millennial snowflakes are prime examples...
They need to understand something: no one owes them anything unless it is first earned by them...
their is no such thing as a free lunch, everything has a cost...
They are entitled to try and make their way through life as best they can; no one said it was easy, or all fun...
It is actually very simple: You want money, you earn it...
you want respect, you earn it...
Nothing in life is free; "Free speech" was bought and paid for with blood, sweat, and tears...
8)
Quote from: Irene on July 07, 2017, 01:33:43 AM
At OKWU, we teach you to be selfless rather than self-centered. We are more interested in you practicing personal forgiveness than political revenge. We want you to model interpersonal reconciliation rather than foment personal conflict. We believe the content of your character is more important than the color of your skin. We don't believe that you have been victimized every time you feel guilty and we don't issue "trigger warnings" before altar calls.
I take responsibility for the fact that I am seeing these people, personally; that I am encountering them. I share their faults. I am weak, I am cowardly, and I blame others and my situation for my own shortcomings and lack of accomplishments.
I am to blame for my karma. No one else. If I am born on a planet alongside social justice warriors, Godless transhumanists, and others who view money as the only truth, then all I am seeing is a reflection of my own degenerate internal state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAXtO5dMqEI
Tat Vam Assi. That thou art. I will go back to Nimbin. I will serve the most downtrodden elements of Australian society with tears as I have done there in the past, and I will pray that eventually, when enough of my own filth has been purged, my next birth will be in a place that I will find more pleasing.
Quote from: zorgon on July 07, 2017, 02:15:35 AM
This generation is mostly spoiled brats that got every thing handed to them and now need puppies and cupcakes to over come the trauma when they get hit with reality
I prefer Minecraft, pizza, and around three litres of Coke, personally.
Quote from: spacemaverick on July 07, 2017, 03:14:54 AM
Zorgon, you almost always hit the nail right squarely on the head. You nailed it.
Carpenter I am yes? Hmmm? :P
Quote from: petrus4 on July 07, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
.... three litres of Coke, personally.
The phosphoric acid in that rots you from the inside out and makes you smell bad...
::)
And your worried about "chemtrails" :P
well so now we know what's wrong with this generation
how do we move on from here?
they have a rude awakening and most will need heavy doses of anti-stress meds to cope
so now what ?
Quote from: petrus4 on July 07, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
I prefer Minecraft, pizza, and around three litres of Coke, personally.
Me too!! And the best part is when mom brings it to me in the basement!
They need fresh air, sunshine, exercise, fruits, vegetables...
My grandkids have their moments of driving everyone crazy, but they're used to working for what they want. They proved themselves responsible, so they now have five "pocket sausages" aka ferrets. Percy, Paris, Panda, Andromeda, and Apollo are happy and healthy.
Shasta
Guess my wife and I were old school. We did not give our kids everything they wanted. Discipline was involved also. Made them appreciate what they had and got. They developed into hard working, polite individuals that we enjoy being with. Their groups of friends have similar personalities. "You are what your friends are".
There are many spoiled brats that have turned to drugs and have made a mess of their lives. Many of them were given whatever they wanted. Never knew what "no" meant.
(http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss64/Micjer_2009/friend_zpstxq5bryx.png) (http://s562.photobucket.com/user/Micjer_2009/media/friend_zpstxq5bryx.png.html)
Quote from: Irene on July 07, 2017, 01:09:15 AM
I don't know about Portugal, ArMaP, but the American educational system is off the rails, big time.
It has been appropriated by the Left to further their political agenda.
Who controls the educational system? Is it not the people from the previous generation or the generation before?
Quote from: ArMaP on July 07, 2017, 02:06:28 PM
Who controls the educational system? Is it not the people from the previous generation or the generation before?
Yes it is, ArMap; the problem started here with the turmoil of the 1960's, the hippies and protests against the Vietnam war, and many other factors, from President Lyndon Johnson and his "great society" (which started the entitlement snowball) to hippies advocating free love now being teachers and professors at the universities
you have to be extremely careful over here for you can be put in jail for spanking your own child; extreme bovine feces that needs to be dealt with...
protect children from abuse, but allow parents to discipline their children...
Where I live...you always fear what your kid say in school... All it takes is one stupid statement to the wrong person. One of my kids was overheard complaining "There is nothing to eat in the house"...actually meaning that there was nothing she WANTED to eat in the house...well the teacher told the school counsellor we had no food so child protective services came for a visit to see how we were starving our kids (of course there was lots of food). It is just that stupid. If you threaten your kid with discipline and they blab about it YOU pay the price not them. They get a free get out of jail card for anything so long as they run free at the mouth in the school. Parents are being put in a corner and are able to do less and less to deal with out of control kids with less recourse of action other than grounding which does very little. I shut down the Wi-Fi which is pure hell for them.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 07, 2017, 03:24:18 PM
Where I live...you always fear what your kid say in school... All it takes is one stupid statement to the wrong person. One of my kids was overheard complaining "There is nothing to eat in the house"...actually meaning that there was nothing she WANTED to eat in the house...well the teacher told the school counsellor we had no food so child protective services came for a visit to see how we were starving our kids (of course there was lots of food). It is just that stupid. If you threaten your kid with discipline and they blab about it YOU pay the price not them. They get a free get out of jail card for anything so long as they run free at the mouth in the school. Parents are being put in a corner and are able to do less and less to deal with out of control kids with less recourse of action other than grounding which does very little. I shut down the Wi-Fi which is pure hell for them.
My point exactly, E: the system is creating the problem; Dealing with DEFACS is like dealing with the Gestapo or the old KGB
8)
One of my kids went through depression for a spell...CPS had a meeting with us and warned us "after talking with her we can tell you she is VERY suicidal." (She was not suicidal...she talked about it as she was depressed but she can't handle any sort of pain so she simply could NOT hurt herself even if she wanted to). That argument went on for a while...then we discussed discipline. I asked "So how do we discipline our child, she can not just have free reign because she is depressed." The answer was short and simple and NOT what I had expected to hear. The answer from them was "you DON'T." At that point I said "Well I am not accepting that as an answer" I made sure they had documented the entire conversation accurately then sent them off. I then had to go through the long process of getting doctors, psychologists etc. involved as it was mandated by CPS to do so...only to have all the professional help tell me what I already knew. Days and weeks wasted because CPS is completely inept at their jobs and has no place trying to tell people how to parent their own kids. None of them are qualified counsellors (around here anyways) and the ones that visited us did not even have kids, one was single and the other was 6 months pregnant. Very frustrating.
I raised 5 kids....one day, one decided he didn't want to get an ass whipping...'I'm going to call the cops'.....well I turned around and handed him the phone.....'go ahead at your own peril'....
He didn't....he knew better...
Rock.
8)
Quote from: space otter on July 07, 2017, 12:21:19 PM
so now what ?
So now us old timers say frig it and find a nice quiet hideaway to watch the sunsets and drink mint julips :P
And I think I found mine :D
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 07, 2017, 05:53:33 PM
I raised 5 kids....one day, one decided he didn't want to get an ass whipping...'I'm going to call the cops'.....well I turned around and handed him the phone.....'go ahead at your own peril'....
He didn't....he knew better...
Rock.
8)
;)
Quote from: zorgon on July 07, 2017, 07:28:13 PM
So now us old timers say frig it and find a nice quiet hideaway to watch the sunsets and drink mint julips :P
And I think I found mine :D
Mint juleps, iced tea, maybe a few burgers and dogs on the grill 8)
sounds like a southern thing :P
QuoteSo now us old timers say frig it and find a nice quiet hideaway to watch the sunsets and drink mint julips :P
And I think I found mine :D
PHEW
and here i was thinking my escape to the patio and a beer and the night sky
would set me apart....lol
Sounds alright to me Otter. ;)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 07, 2017, 05:53:33 PM
I raised 5 kids....one day, one decided he didn't want to get an ass whipping
In hindsight, the only reason why I ever objected to my father hitting me, is because I've always believed that I have a much better developed sense of right and wrong than he does. Dad has done things that I would never dream of doing. If I had actually looked up to him and he had hit me, I could see myself having accepted that I deserved it. I usually believed that it was
me who should be justified in hitting
him, rather than the other way around.
That may have a lot to do with the reason why Millennials didn't want their parents hitting them. It's possibly not just that social workers have told them to tell someone or call the police; but because they didn't believe that said parents were sufficiently good ethical role models themselves, that they should actually be in that position of authority. Given what I've seen of the average Boomer parents, the more I think about that, the more sense it starts to make.
Mind you, I know the response to this is going to be that if a child feels that way about their parents, then they should get out of the house, and I agree.
There is a difference between 'hitting' and 'spanking'.
I gave them some ass whippings but never hitting!
I had a public school teacher that used to be in the army. He had a strap in his top drawer of his desk and used it on many students. (Luckily not me). Kids were terrified of him. Actually so were many of the teachers.
Today he would be in jail for abuse.
You just brought up another good point. Back when I was a kid there was a fear of doing wrong because other adults used to give kids heck and parents would side with them for the most part. It was not just the parents that were disciplining. Now no one EXCEPT the parent dare do anything anymore for fear of all the commotion that may ensue.
Quote from: micjer on July 08, 2017, 02:31:13 PM
I had a public school teacher that used to be in the army. He had a strap in his top drawer of his desk and used it on many students. (Luckily not me). Kids were terrified of him. Actually so were many of the teachers.
When I was on primary school all teachers used heavy wooden rulers to apply physical punishments, usually hitting the palms of the student's hands. I remember that I was once the target of that wooden ruler, but I don't remember why, so it wasn't much of an effective tool. :P