A Tweet attributed to Q Anon...
Need to find out if this plant is truly owned by these people
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If it is,,, then the precision strike is an attack on the Deep State and not Assad
Seems EVERYONE is in on this..
Syria chemical 'attack': What we know
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39500947
GONE IN 120 SECONDS RAF's 120-second blitz on Syria chemical weapons plant using £790K-a-piece missiles fired from 300 MILES away
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6054644/raf-120-second-blitz-syria-chemical-weapons-plant/
U.S. launches precision strikes on Syrian chemical facilities
https://www.axios.com/united-states-strikes-syria-b81c0842-ba04-4278-a583-47207ecd840a.html
Israel reported to have bombed Syrian chemical weapons facility
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/07/israel-airstrike-syria-chemical-weapons-facility
US, France and UK launch strikes on Syrian 'chemical plant' sites
https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/international/140418/us-france-and-uk-launch-strikes-syrian-chemical-plant-sites/commentaires
Hillary Clinton calls for U.S. to bomb Syrian air fieldsNEW YORK (Reuters) - In her first interview since her stunning presidential election defeat by Republican rival Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton on Thursday called for the United States to bomb Syrian air fields.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-calls-for-u-s-to-bomb-syrian-air-fields-idUSKBN179058
Syria: Donald Trump's 'World War III' attack on Hillary Clinton is coming back to haunt himQuoteThe Syrian conflict could spark World War III.
Who says so? Donald Trump.
Yes, in 2016 as he battled Hillary Clinton for the presidency, Mr Trump said the Clinton plan for Syria would "lead to World War III", pitting two nuclear powers — the US and Russia — directly against each other.
In an interview with Reuters, then Republican candidate Trump, said the focus should be more on Islamic State than Bashar al Assad's Syria; indeed ousting Assad, he argued, was "secondary, to me, to ISIS".
Could this spell World War III?
Now Middle East analyst Jonathan Schanzer, in an interview with ABC News program Matter of Fact, says the Syria conflict is beginning to look like World War III.
A composite image of donald trump (r) and Vladimir Putin (L)
PHOTO: Putin and Trump are backing opposing teams in the Syria conflict. (Reuters)
Writing in Politico, Mr Schanzer, who is the senior vice-president of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, urges President Trump to "stop prevaricating" and come down hard on Assad and his ally Vladimir Putin.
Mr Schanzer says Mr Putin is "sitting on a tinderbox"; his support for President Assad has put him in a weakened position carrying responsibility for a conflict that threatens to spiral further out of control, pitting Iran against Israel in what "could be the ugliest Middle East War of the 21st century".
Iran and Israel have already clashed: in February this year Israel launched air strikes on a Syrian air base after Iran used the base to dispatch a drone into Israeli airspace.
This week that same base was struck again — Israel is believed to have launched the attack.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-12/trump-syria-response-embroils-russia-iran-israel/9642154
Some of the links in the opening post are about the attack from 2017, not this one.
If you follow Q then you will KNOW the attack was to push out the Deep State. I can not verify these people own that facility but I can tell you that Syria is a huge organ harvesting place. They are known for their human trafficking. They use the women and children for harvesting their organs. Zorgan can post the sites that I have given him. Q has been talking about no name. No name is John McCain. McCain was just in Syria and Q was all over that before the chemical attacks, that were probably staged. Q had said to watch the wives. McCains wife is chairperson over a large foundation that has ties to Syria.
Trump is pulling the plug on human trafficking. People all over the world are being arrested daily. If you do not think that Pedogate is real, then you are not aware of what goes on in this world.
Backpage was shut down and that was huge. That is just one example of what is going on behind the scenes. MSM does not report this and I really hope that no one watches MSM. We all know who owns them.
Do we have a name or precise location of the factory? Without them it's impossible to know what we're talking about.
yes i'ld also like to do my own research on that info..on who owns that factory
and how do you know that is where john mccain was?
i've never heard of this person Q and would also like to check her out also
sorry i don't believe much anymore
Quote from: zorgon on April 15, 2018, 09:26:40 PM
A Tweet attributed to Q Anon...
Need to find out if this plant is truly owned by these people
Maybe this can help:
QuotePulverized buildings were shown which are reportedly the remains of a research facility in Damascus after a cruise missile blitz. The article states that the RAF joined US and French forces in unleashing a "blitz on evil Bashar al-Assad's chemical weapon capabilities..."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6041478/syria-air-strikes-bombing-strike-uk-us-chemical-weapons-assad-latest-pentagon-russia/
Okay, so here we have "NTI Building a Safer World" with NTI's primary biological weapons agent facility reportedly to be located at the Damascus-based Scientific Research Council. Here anthrax, cholera, and botulism are developed by the Biological Research Facility and produced. It is believed that all research, development, and production activities and facilities associated with the Biological Weapons program are under the direct control of the Centre D'Etude et Recherche Scientifique (CERS). On April 14, 2018, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that a CERS facility in Damascus had been potentially struck during US missile strikes on chemical weapons sites. Pentagon officials later reported that the facility had been destroyed. What in the hell is NTI all about??? http://www.nti.org/learn/countries/syria/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Scientific_Studies_and_Research_Center
Whatever NTI is, it is also located in Washington D.C. Its website says the following: "Every day, we work to prevent catastrophic attacks with weapons of mass destruction and disruption - nuclear, biological, radiological, chemical and cyber. Working with leaders, partners, and citizens around the world to develop policies to reduce reliance on nuclear wapons, prevent their use, and end them as a threat."
Here's the shocker - The Board of Directors include Ernest J. Moniz, Sam Nunn, Ted Turner, Des Browne, Joan Rohlfing, Ambassador Hamad Alkaabi, Alexy Arbatov, Charles A. Bowsher, Edmund G. Brown, Jr., Liru Cui, Rolf Ekeus, Gideon Frank, Margaret A. Hamburg, M.D., and several more.
Its advisors include Warren E. Buffett, David A. Hamburg, and Siegfried S. Hecker. http://www.nti.org/about/board-and-advisors/
I can't figure out exactly what NTI is or does, but something is very, very wrong.
Source https://voat.co/v/news/2501738 (https://voat.co/v/news/2501738)
NTI People:
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I didn't see any reference to NTI in the The Sun article, where did they got it from? Or did I miss it?
Space Otter,
Q is undercover Military Intel that gives drops that seem to come directly from Trump. Q posts on 8chan. There are many Q research boards that decipher Q's drops that come daily. Sometimes many a day.
I follow people that post on FB - all the chatter from 8chan, so I do not ever go there myself. With so many people working together, which is what Q has told us to do, he is getting us insider information without going through MSM. Q works closely with Trump.
I have told other members here privately to follow Q. I firmly believe this . His Intel has been proven over and over again.
You can google Q or the Qanons group.
I have given Z a script that has every Q drop since he began posting on September 29th of last year I believe. He will post that here as I can not do that from my device.
Armap, one of the Qanons thinks that was a facility hit by a missile. I've described who Q is.
Quote from: space otter on April 16, 2018, 01:21:05 AM
i've never heard of this person Q and would also like to check her out also
Q is an anonymous author who has been posting to 4chan for (from memory) around a year now. I was on 4chan for probably 3.5-4ish years at one point, but I haven't gone there regularly since the last election, because it has sadly become a bit of a parody of its' former self. 4chan has always been a bastion of the hard Right, but in amongst the white supremacist rubbish there still used to be decent conversations. For the most part that is no longer true.
This is partly because the Left have tried very hard to undermine it since Trump won the election, but also because the Right itself is not what it used to be, as well. Brexit and Trump winning in America scared a lot of people, so conservatives have become much more a target of disinfo and signal jamming than in the past. The globalist Left had previously thought they had everything in the bag, but those two events changed that. Racism has been amped up, and the Islamophobia meme is also being used very heavily (and successfully, unfortunately) to push the Right off-message, and keep them focused on divisive rubbish rather than providing a real alternative to things like the EU.
For those of you who don't know, I think of 4chan as a crossroads of sorts between the quote unquote "Deep Web," and the Internet as it is accessible to the mainstream. There is still a greater degree of anonymity there than virtually anywhere else online now, but the level of overall freedom has noticeably lessened. As a result of this however, the site can function well as a drop for informants.
Q claims to be a deep throat from within the Trump government, presumably with rather high security clearance.
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The "Q" is apparently some kind of reference to his security clearance, although I don't know enough about that to be able to comment. I also don't necessarily believe in his veracity as strongly as some people, but some of his past comments would tend to imply that he
does have fairly close access to Trump. He has made a lot of noise about Hillary Clinton supposedly being arrested though, and AFAIK at least, that hasn't happened yet.
I will admit that I know nothing really about Syria specifically, but I also truthfully don't care much, because I do know enough about American history to assume that it's just another Northwoods-esque, routine fake proxy war with a motive of either resource extraction, pacifying the Netanyahu government, protecting the petrodollar, or all of the above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVsB07CcSNw
The BS about the commission of attrocities by the given country's domestic government, is generally used to dupe the UN security council into allowing an invasion. Assuming said attrocities have been committed at all, they will generally have been carried out by natives of the country who have been employed or paid by American intelligence.
Petrus4 thank you.
I am new to Q but I think that he left 4chan around September of last year because I know for certain that he is on 8chan now. I have been following for maybe 3-4 weeks. The events that I have seen unfolding are about Human trafficking. He is really hitting this hard. His lawyers office getting raided also had something to do with this. I am pretty sure that Trump was aware and maybe even in on it.
wow thanks guys for trying to get me up to speed on who's who
working on processing it all and still researching some stuff
but stepping back i think it is just one more thing leading to a major war
that the world powers are poking at each other to see who will light the fuse to start major conflict
Quote from: Smilingtree on April 16, 2018, 01:55:04 AM
I have given Z a script that has every Q drop since he began posting on September 29th of last year I believe. He will post that here as I can not do that from my device.
I did not see a script? maybe I missed it? where did you link it for me? In FB Message?
I will add the other things you linked here now...
This seems unrelated to the Q material... might have to move it to a new thread..
The horrifying testimony of ex nun of the Roman Catholic Churchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVVYtwyCm9E
SUN 6:27PM
Hey Ron.... If you know anyone that gets on the dark web, I would like to know if this video is real.
I started hearing about it last week. It is supposedly the video that was on Weiner's laptop under "Insurance". Remember the NYC policemen that saw it, wept, some vomited, all wanted it know to the public but were hushed up.
Everyone says this is what is on it. Many, many people are saying this is what is in it.
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Haven't heard of this one I will see what I can find... Although I have heard from several people that the pedophile thing is not about sex... but more like vampirism... trying to rejuvenate themselves with young blood... How many hearts did Dave Rockefeller get? They either don't believe in the after life and are desparte to hang on or they know what is waiting for them
Hmmm just saw this YourNewsWire is a well known fake news site.... if they are the source I would question it
'Horrific' Hillary Clinton Snuff Film Circulating On Dark Webhttp://yournewswire.com/hillary-clinton-film-dark-web/
Quote from: Smilingtree on April 16, 2018, 01:57:00 AM
Armap, one of the Qanons thinks that was a facility hit by a missile. I've described who Q is.
I'm not interested in what people think, I'm interested in facts.
And I know who Q is supposed to be, although I don't follow his/her/its/their posts.
Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2018, 09:17:34 AM
I'm not interested in what people think, I'm interested in facts.
THAT is why we are here :P To find the facts
Quote from: space otter on April 16, 2018, 04:58:15 AM
but stepping back i think it is just one more thing leading to a major war
that the world powers are poking at each other to see who will light the fuse to start major conflict
Maybe I'm just jaded, but I don't think there's going to be another major world war. I think we've moved past that.
You see, Otter, as much as I might whine and cry about the Age of Aquarius, it has done us one favour. It's changed the game. Everyone wants to be the good guy, now. Everyone wants to virtue signal. That's why, as you say, they're all poking each other and trying to get the other person to start something, because nobody wants to be the person to throw the first punch; because being that person means that your virtue signalling rights get revoked. #IStartedWW3AndI'mProud will
not be a big hit on Twitter.
I like Vladimir Putin. Everyone who I've told that I like Vladimir Putin, has accused me of being compulsively naive; but I'm not. I will give you one big empirical reason why I like Putin.
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He hasn't started anything yet. Russia's Cold War leaders had the proverbial big red button installed right on their desks. Putin hasn't pressed it yet. Hillary and the rest of the Why So Serious demographic have tried to goad him into doing it, as well. That's what Crimea was about.
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"Did I ever tell you, how I got these scars?" ;)
We won't have another major world war. What we will have, are
theaters. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria. Places where Blackwater can still find work, where the arms dealers can still deal arms, and where the DoD can showcase its' rail guns and latest battle droids.
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Anything that can be publically, officially called "World War 3," or is approaching anything like that scale though, no. You can't be the instigator of that and maintain a positive reputation. Russia and China both currently have leaders who are more interested in buying the planet than irradiating it.
There will be shenanigans. There will be proxy skirmishes. There are still plenty of people who enjoy the Game of Thrones routine. It will be confined to certain specific playgrounds, however, and it won't be allowed to burn down the whole school. Some of the rest of us are trying to concentrate. ;)
Quote from: Smilingtree on April 16, 2018, 01:55:04 AM
I have given Z a script that has every Q drop since he began posting on September 29th of last year I believe. He will post that here as I can not do that from my device.
Okay found it DOH!!! You added more stuff while I was fighting WEED WARS..
Quote Ron, please post this at Peggy for me as I can't from my iPad.
This is a helpful guide to Q.
I suggest Peggy get on this big time. I honestly believe it now.
The document you linked me to on Scribd says: "Sorry! This document is not publicly available."
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QuoteFull JSON Q archive: anonfile.com/y528Y7d1b7/JSONArchive.zip
http:// anonfile.com/48U5dfe1bc/Q_s_posts_-_CBTS_-_8.9.0.pdf
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Quote SO on Peggy wanted to know how I knew McCain was over there....because Q showed us pics of him over there.
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QuoteQ is real
I will be very, very surprised if Hillary ever sees the inside of a jail cell; especially if she's publically known to have friends in the Rothschild family.
I'm slowly reaching the point where my desire for the containment of psychopaths is not motivated primarily by vindictiveness or a desire for revenge, as much as the simple desire that they be prevented from harming anyone else. I still think that Hillary is one of the most extremely psychologically sick and damaged human beings that I have ever heard of, but I am in the process of realising that judging people with excessive spite or severity is not in my own karmic best interests.
She needs to be incarcerated, very securely and most likely permanently; but again, the motivation should not be revenge, since that ultimately doesn't help anyone, either her or her victims. The motivation should simply be to ensure that she can not further prey on others.
Quote from: zorgon on April 16, 2018, 09:36:21 AM
THAT is why we are here :P To find the facts
Sometimes it looks like we are here just to follow sheep of a different colour. :P
well this is what i have found and
imo i think we are all being played and smiling tree you seem to be one gullible woman by following this q person..and for me that is a harsh statement and anyone who believes even half of that crap is not looking behind that curtain
here's my list and to me it looks like this was a test of accuracy for some missles
my question right now is if that place was full of chemical anything why didn't it blow up in a big cloud?...
going any further would be a waste of my time
seeing such bs here saddens me greatly :(
i'm done with this
and from the article the place is/was
Barzah scientific research centre
wiki info says
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barzah_scientific_research_centre
Barzah Scientific Research Facility,
Quote
Previous reports by OPCW stated that Investigators from the organization inspected Barzah facility from 14 to 21 November 2017 [7] and their report concluded that the analysis of samples taken during the inspections did not indicate the presence of scheduled chemicals in the samples, and the inspection team did not observe any activities inconsistent with obligations under the Convention during the second round of inspections at the Barzah facility [8].
i could not find a list of principles or board members for
Barzah Scientific Research Facilit
How 'the Storm' Became the Biggest Fake News Story of 2018
www.newsweek.com/how-storm-biggest-fake-news-story-796725
Feb 1, 2018 - Today, #Qanon (meaning Q, anonymous), also known as #TheStorm, is the web's fastest-spreading and most pervasive right-wing conspiracy theory. .... ideas can be slotted into it, according to Kyle Mantyla, a writer with Right Wing Watch, a nonprofit group that monitors internet trends such as this one.
well consider that source and just think about it
Quote from: space otter on April 16, 2018, 03:07:03 PM
imo i think we are all being played and smiling tree you seem to be one gullible woman by following this q person..and for me that is a harsh statement and anyone who believes even half of that crap is not looking behind that curtain....
Well that is why I posted all this here... so we can track it down to see the truth.
Yes it is painfully OBVIOUS that someone or some force is pushing to start WW III The fact that Hillary appeared out of the shadows to call for the bombing of Syria is bad enough, but add to that the fact that BOTH PARTIES are 100% in agreement to bomb them, when there is very little to zero proof that Assad did the gassing... is scary..
Trump doesn't stand a chance. I have repeatedly said that a president is only an office temp and doesn't really have the full powers that most people think he does. No matter how good the intentions, in the end they are really just puppets. People like that War Monger McCain and Henry Kissinger are still around... People like Palossi and Feinstein are still in charge making stupid decisions and NO ONE is ousting these creeps.
You can't say the Israeli's are involved because that is politically incorrect and you become a "racist" yet a large portion of our nastiest politicians are Jewish.
These people are INTENT on getting us into war with Russia. Fortunately Putin is NOT buying it and is probably the only cool head in this mess... fortunately for the world.
What is the TRUTH in Syria? Same as all the other nations, Lebanon was a good example Gadaffi was killed because he was bringing in a gold based currency...
And as much as I hate this face, it needs to be remembered how evil this killer of Benghazi really is... This has NOTHING to do with which party you support... this is just pure EVIL Gadaffi did not deserve this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM
Quoteseeing such bs here saddens me greatly :(
i'm done with this
What saddens me is that you called out a fellow member who is merely concerned and wanted answers and that is why she asked me to post this here so we could get to the truth of the matter.
I like you, otter, I really do... but the fact is that the world is on the brink of the next world war and that means a LOT of people are concerned. The media, both main stream and conspiracy.. are driving agendas to push this along...
What do we do? Hide our heads in the sand? Even ostriches don't do that, that has also been 'fake news'
Every forum on the internet has concerned people talking about the current political situation.
I suppose we could just talk about puppies and kittens :P but what good would that do?
This is why I tilled the page carefully with
Research Required
Your News Wire is a known fake news site. What amazes me is how many people claim to HATE the main stream media for fake news and propaganda, then those same people turn around and share the fake news from questionable sites without batting an eyelid
QuoteSean Adl-Tabatabai is behind the YourNewsWire.com platform, the source of numerous fake news stories including claims that the Queen had threatened to abdicate if the UK did not vote in favour of Brexit as well as reports that Hillary Clinton was connected to a paedophile ring in Washington.
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/01/29/man-behind-one-the-biggest-sites-accused-fake-news-former-bbc-worker
Quote from: petrus4 on April 16, 2018, 09:44:26 AM
Maybe I'm just jaded, but I don't think there's going to be another major world war. I think we've moved past that.
I agree... but certain forces are pushing VERY HARD
All this investigation of Russia over the elections... they are OBSESSED with this... despite the fact that most sane people can see it is pure bullshit and are not falling for it.
Hillary repeatedly said, in MANY interviews, that "...the nuclear option is definitely on the table.." concerning Russia and Iran. The fact that Democrats choose to ignore this is actually scary.
We talk a lot about brain washing and mind control. Well here it is in full action...
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But Edgar Cayce predicted that it would be RUSSIA that stops WW III from happening , because they don't really want to see the end of the world any more than we do...
Putin so far has kept a really cool head in all this and I trust him not to be triggered into action as easily as some people in the US are...
Not sure if Syria will survive this... but I am pretty sure we won't be sharing nukes, no matter how much Israel is pushing us to do so.
Putin gave Ed Snowden assylum and citizenship. Steven Segal as well, one of America's action heros.
So let's hope Edgar is right...
first off saying this is not calling someone out..read carefully
Quotesmiling tree you seem to be one gullible woman by following this q person..and for me that is a harsh statement and anyone who believes even half of that crap is not looking behind that curtain
you seem to be one gullible woman by following this q person..
after stating that no one knows who this is and goes partially by anon and is a white supremest.. my opinion which i said was an opinion holds that it seems gullible to state that as a fact
and i also admit that is harsh...
if you have free range to call the information worth consideration then i also have free range to say it's gullible to believe it without qualifying the source
but the free range on anything you haven't stated seems to be narrowing daily
it is my opinion that indeed more research is required and from more than one prejudice source using an initial
and following only one source on anything is sad and i am sad to see that kind of one sided view here....but it seems to be visible more and more and anyone posting otherwise is stomped on ...heavily
and that is sad
QuoteEvery forum on the internet has concerned people talking about the current political situation.
well guess what.. i am concerned when a source - any source is
followed blindly
so does every forum on the internet only speak one side and comes down on a person stating they don't feel following THAT one thing is
correct
wow call me pollyanna why don't cha..oh you did
QuoteThis is why I tilled the page carefully with Research Required
and that is what i was agreeing with.. more research is required
Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2018, 01:06:08 PM
Sometimes it looks like we are here just to follow sheep of a different colour. :P
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Quote from: space otter on April 16, 2018, 10:13:20 PM
and following only one source on anything is sad and i am sad to see that kind of one sided view here....but it seems to be visible more and more and anyone posting otherwise is stomped on ...heavily
and that is sad
well guess what.. i am concerned when a source - any source is
followed blindly
so does every forum on the internet only speak one side and comes down on a person stating they don't feel following THAT one thing is correct
Dang seems to me you over reacted on this one... Until recently I had never heard of this "Q" character at all...
To me I thought the reference was to Mr Q, a nick name I had jokingly given to Sgt Rock & roll over his 'Q' clearance in his old job :P
SmilingTree is not gullible, anymore than any of us here... She asked us to look into it, not believe it blindly as you are implying...
But the more I look into it this "Q" person is somehow connected to Trump. Agenda? I have NO IDEA... yet... That is why I am looking into it. If it turns out to be bogus, then so be it... and it will fall off the pages as everything else does
QuoteDang seems to me you over reacted on this one... Until recently I had never heard of this "Q" character at all...
REALLY
then maybe reading the ENTIRE thread instead of just the last post or two would have cleared that up for you
Quote from: space otter on April 16, 2018, 10:31:03 PM
REALLY
then maybe reading the ENTIRE thread instead of just the last post or two would have cleared that up for you
Ummm I DID read the entire thread Most of it are my posts and it's only a day old so far...
I also saw THIS comment you just made
Quoteand that is what i was agreeing with.. more research is required
So what exactly is your beef?
Quote from: space otter on April 16, 2018, 03:07:03 PM
well this is what i have found and
imo i think we are all being played and smiling tree you seem to be one gullible woman by following this q person..and for me that is a harsh statement and anyone who believes even half of that crap is not looking behind that curtain
Relax, Otter. Ultimately it's all just theater. We're all just Statler and Waldorf, looking down and passing comment from our box.
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Whether WW3 is inevitable or whether it isn't, nothing that is said on this web site is going to make a lick of difference either way.
I think Q is provisionally legitimate; but that "provisionally," means that to some extent he is most likely playing both sides, and he is probably doing that in order to protect himself, if for no other reason. Come down too hard and too transparently on one side, and that side is going to come looking for you with a shotgun.
Quotemy question right now is if that place was full of chemical anything why didn't it blow up in a big cloud?...
The answer to this is what I said earlier. The only reason why attrocities get brought up at all, is to try and get a bargaining chip with the U.N. Security Council; which is to Aquarius as the Vatican was to Pisces. The U.N.S.C. views its' reason for existence as the
prevention of war. So in order to get pretext for their invasions, the American government has to try and compare the government of the given country with Hitler, and convince the U.N.S.C. that said government is dastardly and maniacal, and has horrific weapons of mass destruction which will be used if they are not stopped.
QuoteHow 'the Storm' Became the Biggest Fake News Story of 2018
www.newsweek.com/how-storm-biggest-fake-news-story-796725
Feb 1, 2018 - Today, #Qanon (meaning Q, anonymous), also known as #TheStorm, is the web's fastest-spreading and most pervasive right-wing conspiracy theory. .... ideas can be slotted into it, according to Kyle Mantyla, a writer with Right Wing Watch, a nonprofit group that monitors internet trends such as this one.
Sure. True believers gonna true believe. There's really not a lot you can do about that, unfortunately. That's the reason why Benjamin Full Of It, Sorcha Fail, Jeff Rense, and Alex Jones still get so much airtime, long after their rational use-by dates. That Q will get a similar following, is entirely predictable; but just because he has a cult, that doesn't necessarily mean that nothing he says is worth listening to.
I don't really care what Q says, to be honest. Q for me is really just another layer of white noise on the Internet, who occasionally catches my interest in between Linus Tech Tips videos and Objectivist flamebait from Sargon of Akkad. It's all a giant circus, and Q's just another one of the exhibits. If people want to enjoy Q's X Files IRL performance, then let them, as far as I'm concerned.
(https://dvdbash.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/x-files-s2-duchovny-mulder-anderson-scully-pileggi-skinner-dvdbash-wordpress30-steven-williams.jpg)
Reminds me of how I used to watch Project Camelot and UFOTV in Nimbin, while on magic mushrooms. Other than things like pedogate, most of it is just good fun. The mistake I made with
Sirius was taking it too seriously. I already knew Steven Greer was a con artist. My only real problem with him, in hindsight, is the fact that he insists on claiming that he is providing something other than fictional entertainment. I know Giorgio Tsoukalos is entirely full of crap, but I enjoy watching him to a sufficient degree that I don't much care.
Quote from: zorgon on April 16, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
I agree... but certain forces are pushing VERY HARD
If by "certain forces," you mean our favourite transvestite incarnation of the Joker, you'll excuse me if I'm not losing much sleep. It would give Hillary excessive credit to call her a minor pot hole in the freeway of history.
All Hillary really needs is a padded cell, a nice warm white jumper with long sleeves, and a sufficiently high drip of alprazolam on a daily basis. She could even be cell mates with David Icke. :P
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Retired HEAD OF FBI Tells ALL "Illuminati, Satanism, Pedophile Rings"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BplUD6kQYuU
No we are NOT Oblivious to it... but NO ONE is making ANY ARRESTS that we see...
Wo.... Calm down everyone. Space Otter, you do not know me, gullible I am not. I can believe in Q if I want to without being called names by you! I am speaking in front of our town School Board tomorrow evening on the issue of bullying going on in our school systems. So I will NOT come here and be bullyed by you.
It is fine to disagree with me but I won't be pushed around just because you can't read. No where does it say...nor do I say...that Q is a white supremist. No where! I can not believe that is your only takeaway. I am so against racism you have no idea!!! But members here that personally know me know that!
I only gave a small sampling of things going on the last week and a half from Q. Him I believe, you don't have to. I don't have to believe in little green men or flying saucers but I am polite here. (I do though ☺️)
You understand what I'm saying. What I mean by Peggy should get on this, is that if he is for real, we can keep up with what is going on in the world. And the fact that not many people here even knew about Q says something to me. I always come here to hear you all discuss the world events. Well, plenty of people in the US follow Q, so we should at least know about him and decide for ourselves. You can't make a decision based on purely what was posted for me by Z. If that is the only research that you do, then Lord help us.
As far as the videos of HRC, I have no idea if they are true and I want to know if the hype is real.
Now for the Catholic Nun video... That was private, just for Zorgan because I was horrified when I watched it and wanted to share with a friend. It's ok that he posted it though. I certainly don't care. You are welcome to watch it, all of you, it will make you see things a whole lot differently. I sure did! I am not Catholic, but have always known about the Priests sexually abusing altar boys.... This video isn't that... This video is Horrific! It sure explains where the evil comes from and how the Elites got started in it.
Now, I am pretty sure that I said I was new to Q. So if I called him anon, I apologize. I'm not going back through this thread. (I read from an iPad and things aren't as easy as from a computer.) He only goes by Q. The Qanons are the autists that research him and decipher what he says.
Believe in Q or don't, I don't care one way or the other. I'm not going to talk you into it. I have better things to do.
Zorgan, thank you for sharing what I asked you too.
For the one that says - seems like we are just jumping to follow one person...something like that. I don't follow one person on anything. Ever! And I think for myself and do not need to be torn apart for it. I have to say... While I love the friendships of the few I have made here... Most of you can be really, really ugly! I'm 60 years old and stand up for many, many causes. One thing that is important to me is kindness. If I was talked to by the way you people here talk to each other I would not be your friend in person. You have no respect.
You remind me of the plumber I had years ago. I own many rental properties and when starting out with them 37 years ago I hired him. I was loyal and always used him. Loyalty is huge with me! Well, over time, his prices got to be higher and higher. So I finally started taking some bids and found out he was gouging me.
I asked him about it. He was embarrassed for being found out, he thought I would never shop around, so he felt comfortable taking advantage of me and by doing so disrespecting me. I fired him of course!
Many of you have been here so long that you are comfortable, and anyone that comes along, you feel just fine being disrespectful to them.
That's fine, you don't bother me and I am not crying "Oh, you've hurt my feelings 😢".
I'm just stating a FACT! A whole lot of disrespect here for people that hide behind a keyboard. I wouldn't want to meet some of you for coffee.
May be, why people leave I don't know. I hope your disrespect doesn't send them away. But you can tell that some of you are not Professionals by the way that you talk. And I will leave it at that?
I like to smile and I'm smiling, I think calling me names is childish Space Otter. But you have amused me so I guess it's ok. I got to talk here more than I ever have and I've been here for years. ☺️
Well interesting developmentIt appears that the chemical weapons plant in Douma were in Rebel held territory
While the world is wondering what Trump was doing attacking Assad... it seems the strike allowed Assad to win over the terrorists
Syrian Army Declares Victory Over Rebels In Eastern Ghouta, Just Hours After AirstrikesQuoteWhile many are asking what particular purpose Trump's Syrian airstrikes served in retaliation to Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons, for the Syrian president events of the past week were clearly worth it because moments ago the Syrian Army declared the the rebel enclave of Ghouta - ground zero of last weekend's alleged chemical weapon scandal - has been retaken.
In an ironic twist, according to Syrian forces the last group of militants has left their last stronghold - the city of Douma in the Damascus suburbs - less than 24 hours after Western coalition members the US, the UK, and France fired over 100 missiles at targets inside of Syria in a response to an alleged chemical attack in the city.
And, according to state media, the Syrian army command has announced that Eastern Ghouta is now free of militants, the AP reports. According to the SANA news agency, the Syrian army is determined to eradicate terrorism in Syria, regardless of what power backs the terrorism, in order to restore security and stability in the country.
"All the terrorists have left Douma city, their last bastion in eastern Ghouta," the army statement said.
At the same time, the Russian Defense Ministry said that 21,000 people, including militants and their family members, have been evacuated from Eastern Ghouta.
Maj. Gen. Yuri Yevtushenko, head of Russia's Reconciliation Center for Syria, said that 3,976 militants left Douma by bus on Friday. He added that at least 67,680 have left the embattled Damascus suburb.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-14/syrian-army-declares-victory-over-rebels-eastern-ghouta-hours-after-airstrikes
WAY TO GO DONALD!!!! While the world is chasing its tail... you ended the War in Syria :P
Exactly Zorgan!
Q says over and over to Trust POTUS
I do!
Well there is certainly a lot of buzz and confusion about this...
Wikipedia sums it up this way:
QAnon
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
QAnon, also referred to monoliterally as Q, is a conspiracy theory by supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump. It involves a series of cryptic internet postings by a person claiming to have access to classified information involving the Trump administration and its opponents in the United States. QAnon's posting campaign is also referred to as The Storm, detailing a supposed secret counter-coup by the Trump administration against the alleged "Deep State".
Adherents believe Q's claim that he is a "high-level government insider with Q clearance" — a United States Department of Energy security clearance comparable to a United States Department of Defense Top Secret clearance with Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Access (TS-SCI).
Origin
A person identifying as "Q Clearance Patriot" first appeared on the /pol/ board of 4chan on October 28, 2017, posting messages in a thread entitled "Calm Before the Storm".
Reactions
Fox News anchor Sean Hannity has tweeted about QAnon, and the Russian government-funded network RT News has discussed the topic.[2] The conspiracy theory has been promoted by Alex Jones and Jerome Corsi.[4]
On March 13, 2018, Operation Rescue vice president and pro-life activist Cheryl Sullenger referred to QAnon as a "small group of insiders close to President Donald J. Trump" and called his internet postings the "highest level of intelligence to ever be dropped publicly in our known history".
On March 31, 2018, US actress Roseanne Barr appeared to promote the conspiracy theory, which was subsequently covered by CNN, The Washington Post, and The New York Times.
Reddit banned one of its communities discussing QAnon, /r/CBTS_Stream, for "encouraging or inciting violence and posting personal and confidential information." Following this, some followers moved to Discord.
Okay so I am beginning to see how this "Q" works. What I needed was SPECIFIC coded messages pertaining to an actual event that addresses that event before it happens. Coded messages like this can be hard to decypher if you are unfamiliar with certain terms used like "Red Sparrow"
THIS ONE, already translated by someone else... does that and makes sense:
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So taken in that context of "double agent" it implies that the missile strike on the chemical plant was NOT what the media said it was... that it in fact had another purpose.
"Trust POTUS" clear enough
"Red Sparrow" A movie of a Russian intel officer posing as a ballerina and a double agent... similar to the old James Bond film "From Russia With Love" where the Russians were working WITH British Secret Service for a common goal. (Had Q uses that film I would get it right away :P But then Red Sparrow is 2018 :D)
'Missiles Only" Clear enough guided selective target missiles only to be used... no troops... no bombs
"Good Intel" Clear enough... the intel for the mission was solid...
And the fact that Assad went in shortly after the strike and finished off those rebel terrorists is a clear sign that this whole operation seems to have been a success and NOT what media told us was happening.
Best way to get a job done is DO IT then talk about it once its finished :D
I think I get how this Q thing works. Not sure yet if this is 100% the real deal... but THIS case is solid
And based on that... we can be pretty sure we are NOT looking at WW III. This type of "Russian Collusion" I can accept :D
Well interesting development
It appears that the chemical weapons plant in Douma were in Rebel held territory
While the world is wondering what Trump was doing attacking Assad... it seems the strike allowed Assad to win over the terrorists
Syrian Army Declares Victory Over Rebels In Eastern Ghouta, Just Hours After Airstrikes
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-14/syrian-army-declares-victory-over-rebels-eastern-ghouta-hours-after-airstrikes
WAY TO GO DONALD!!!! While the world is chasing its tail... you ended the War in Syria :P
Smilingtree
It's easy to misinterpret written text, specially when done on an informal basis, like in a forum like this one, as although the tone is the same of an informal conversation we lack the visual cues that help (a lot) in understanding what the other person is saying. That's one of the reasons I don't like to talk on the telephone, the lack of visual cues makes me even more uncertain of what was meant than usual.
In the same way space otter misinterpreted your post I think you are also misinterpreting some of the things that were written in this thread, but, as I do not know what you're thinking I cannot be sure, I may be doing my share of misinterpreting myself. :)
Edited to add that I'm sure this post can also be misinterpreted. ;)
What I want to say is that we shouldn't give much importance to what is written on a medium like this, at least until we get further clarifications on the intended meaning.
Quote from: zorgon on April 17, 2018, 06:28:38 AM
QAnon
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
QAnon, also referred to monoliterally as Q, is a conspiracy theory by supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump.
Wikipedia is once again demonstrating why it needs to be abolished, here. The above sentence is a fantastic example of expressing bias, while pretending not to. I also love it how they subtly isolate "Trump supporters," as a specific group, when Trump is probably the first sitting President in history to receive such rhetorical treatment. You wouldn't hear about "Obama supporters," or "Bush supporters," because with every other President, there would be an implicit assumption that the entire population of the country was behind them.
Deep breath. The Orcish temper rose a little there. I consider the Left's behaviour chronically dishonourable, most of the time.
QuoteReddit banned one of its communities discussing QAnon, /r/CBTS_Stream, for "encouraging or inciting violence and posting personal and confidential information." Following this, some followers moved to Discord.
"Adherents." "Followers." A "conspiracy theory." I wish they would just come out directly and say that they think it's a pile of crap and they don't want anyone having anything to do with it, rather than the level of innuendo that is being used there. As much as I genuinely do dislike the Right's bigotry, I am generally made far more angry by the dishonesty of the Left.
Quote from: petrus4 on April 17, 2018, 10:38:11 AM
Wikipedia is once again demonstrating why it needs to be abolished, here.
Censorship? No, thanks.
QuoteYou wouldn't hear about "Obama supporters," or "Bush supporters," because with every other President, there would be an implicit assumption that the entire population of the country was behind them.
"Supporters of president X" is a common expression on Wikipedia, also applied to Obama.
Quote"Adherents." "Followers." A "conspiracy theory." I wish they would just come out directly and say that they think it's a pile of crap and they don't want anyone having anything to do with it, rather than the level of innuendo that is being used there.
If you disagree with the tone of the article you can join the discussion on Wikipedia and talk about it.
Quote from: petrus4 on April 17, 2018, 10:38:11 AM
Wikipedia is once again demonstrating why it needs to be abolished, here.
Actually Wikipedia is a GREAT source... and here is why I say that
Although just about ANYONE can post, edit, or change ANYTHING on Wikipedia... and while anyone can certainly express a BIAS, the fact taht every item posted on wikipedia MUST be linked to a SOURCE is extremely helpful. It allows you to follow up on just where a story is coming from, saving a LOT of endless searching.
Now in this case I posted the Wiki article because there seems to be a question whether or not "Q" and "Q ANON" are one and the same... so Wiki is a good starting point...
The MATERIAL brought up by "Q" is certainly controversial... and obviously presented to get reactions from people.
But we need to focus on the MESSAGE and stop attacking the MESSENGER... Wikipedia is merely a messenger... and in many cases provides an easy path to the source...
Quote from: zorgon on April 17, 2018, 04:20:25 AM
Well interesting development
It appears that the chemical weapons plant in Douma were in Rebel held territory
While the world is wondering what Trump was doing attacking Assad... it seems the strike allowed Assad to win over the terrorists
They were already winning, the rebels have been leaving the area for some time, like they did in other areas before. That's one of the reasons people point for the Syrian government not having any need to or gain by using chemical weapons.
As for "Q" being a "conspiracy theory" Well OF COURSE IT Is at the moment... until "Q" is either proven to be the real deal or shown to be total BS... at which point it no longer is a theory.
But the only way to discover that is to look closely at it with facts... and not personal feelings.
Unfortunately for the Planet... Hu-mons tend more to the later than the former
8)
Now THIS THREAD was mainly about the attacks on SYRIA... which... judging by the actual outcome of ASSAD having WON over the REBELS... so this missile strike was against the REBELS not an attack on Assad... seems to me it shows that the coalition (not just Trump) made a decision that was favorable to Assad, not against him... and MOST LIKELY the Russians knew that ahead of time...
And if that is indeed the whole of it... then the press was FOOLED
And that cryptic note from this "Q" person was correct
So we can stop worrying about Nuclear War with Russia over this :D Vladimir Putin is the coolest head in all this and has no intention of dropping Nukes on anyone
IN MY OPINION :P
But one important sub note:
The FACT that the DEFCON level is at its LOWEST and SAFEST LEVEL in years is PROOF that the Military is not concerned about Nuclear war since Trump took office
Condition code is Green.
DEFCON 5.
There are currently no imminent nuclear threats against the United States at this time.
https://defconwarningsystem.com/2018/01/01/defcon-warning-system-update-1-1-18/
Quote from: ArMaP on April 17, 2018, 09:22:22 PM
They were already winning, the rebels have been leaving the area for some time, like they did in other areas before. That's one of the reasons people point for the Syrian government not having any need to or gain by using chemical weapons.
I agree It would have been stupid for Assad to use chemicals at that time and turn the world against him...
Oddly enough we had a similar situation with Saddam when he used (supposedly) gas against the Kurds. Turns out Reagan sold him that gas. But the other WND's we sold him... the ones Bush went looking for :P turns out Saddam sold them to pay for his lavish palace :P
And the irony in all this? We just sold Iraq a whole bunch of Fighter Jets again (Kuwait as well) Daddy Warbucks is working hard :P
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3e/Daddy_Warbucks_-_Bad_Guys.jpg/250px-Daddy_Warbucks_-_Bad_Guys.jpg)
Iraq receives a new batch of F-16 fighter jets from U.S
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2016/08/08/iraq-receives-a-new-batch-of-f-16-fighter-jets-from-u-s/
The New Iraqi Air Force: F-16IQ Block 52 Fighters
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/iraq-seeks-f-16-fighters-05057/
Kuwait to buy new fleet of F-18 fighter jets from US
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/kuwait-buy-new-fleet-f-18-fighter-jets-us-1732359287
the russians were told beforehand... who do you think told assad and had others posting it?
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/the-us-warned-the-russians-ahead-of-syria-missile-strikes-official.html
The US warned the Russians ahead of Syria missile strikes
Everett Rosenfeld | @Ev_Rosenfeld
Published 9:29 PM ET Thu, 6 April 2017 Updated 1:38 AM ET Fri, 7 April 2017
A U.S. official said the Russians had been warned before the U.S. launched at least 59 tomahawk missiles aimed at Syria.
Pentagon spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said in an official statement: "Russian forces were notified in advance of the strike using the established deconfliction line. U.S. military planners took precautions to minimize risk to Russian or Syrian personnel located at the airfield."
The strikes, which hit an airfield near Homs, struck aircraft and infrastructure including the runway, NBC reported. There is no word on casualties yet, but no people were targeted, the official told NBC.
No Russian assets were targeted, according to the report.
believe it or don't
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-06/russian-forces-were-notified-advance-pentagon-statement-air-strikes-syria
http://time.com/4730306/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-missile-attack-bashar-assad/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/us-officials-confirm-russia-was-notified-before-syria-strike
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/the-us-warned-the-russians-ahead-of-syria-missile-strikes-official.html
https://www.ft.com/content/30c75230-6f59-3d5f-850d-12a75b818f24
Pentagon says US warned Russia ahead of Syria missile strike
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-notice/u-s-informed-russia-ahead-of-cruise-missile-strikes-on-syria-base-idUSKBN1790AI
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-air-strikes-us-russia-warn-ahead-airbase-donald-trump-putin-missile-attack-tomohawk-cruise-a7671736.html
there are more IF you look
Quote from: ArMaP on April 17, 2018, 01:12:08 PM
Censorship? No, thanks.
I don't want to get rid of Wikipedia because I'm pro censorship, Armap; quite the opposite. I've been using the Internet for long enough to remember that before Wikipedia existed, the Web had a lot more, different sources of information. Because Wikipedia exists as a single source though, there's less incentive for anyone to make their own sites in the case of most information, now.
Although it's not really Wikipedia's fault; it's just the effect that supports monoculture. For some reason, everyone only wants one of everything to exist; presumably because if there's only a single place to go to, there's less work to do finding anything.
QuoteIf you disagree with the tone of the article you can join the discussion on Wikipedia and talk about it.
In theory, yes. In practice, in my own observation at least, whoever controls an article,
stays in control of it.
did anyone besides ARMAP catch anything from my last post?
it's in the details
maybe this will help
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-launches-missile-strikes-in-syria/2018/04/13/c68e89d0-3f4a-11e8-974f-aacd97698cef_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9cbc566c6f16
U.S. and allies warn Syria of more missile strikes if chemical attacks used again
Dunford said the only communications that took place between the United States and Russia before the operation were "the normal deconfliction of the airspace, the procedures that are in place for all of our operations in Syria."
Russia's military had threatened to shoot down any U.S. missiles that put Russian lives at risk. Russia could also fire at the launch platforms used — potentially U.S. planes or ships. Russian officials had said U.S. and Russian military staffs remained in contact regarding Syria, even as Russian media carried stories in recent days about the potential outbreak of "World War III" as a consequence of a U.S. airstrike against Assad.
China's Foreign Ministry said it opposed the use of force, urged negotiation and called for a "comprehensive, impartial and objective" investigation into the allegation that chemical weapons were used.
Quote from: space otter on April 17, 2018, 09:42:43 PM
...the russians were told beforehand...
No Russian assets were targeted, according to the report.
Probably two very smart moves to avoid WW III :D
Quote believe it or don't
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-06/russian-forces-were-notified-advance-pentagon-statement-air-strikes-syria
there are more IF you look
Well you have provided more than enough No need to look for more. That is why we have a team :P
I kinda like Zero Hedge They seem to still have some integrity in their news reporting
So bottom line... if Russia was REALLY pissed at us for these strikes they would have stopped us BEFORE...
It's all a game of Checkers or maybe a Game of Thrones
Quote from: space otter on April 17, 2018, 09:42:43 PM
the russians were told beforehand... who do you think told assad and had others posting it?
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/the-us-warned-the-russians-ahead-of-syria-missile-strikes-official.html
The US warned the Russians ahead of Syria missile strikes
Everett Rosenfeld | @Ev_Rosenfeld
Published 9:29 PM ET Thu, 6 April 2017 Updated 1:38 AM ET Fri, 7 April 2017
This is not a timeline glitch, it's really the wrong bombing. :)
And yes, this time they also warned Russia, as expected.
Quote from: petrus4 on April 17, 2018, 09:48:41 PM
I don't want to get rid of Wikipedia because I'm pro censorship, Armap; quite the opposite.
That's not what I meant, what I meant was that getting rid
is censorship.
QuoteAlthough it's not really Wikipedia's fault; it's just the effect that supports monoculture.
So, it's not their fault but you want to get rid of them. Is that fair?
From Smiling Tree on FB
Damascus, Syria
They make Chemical weapons
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QuoteJJ Jones OMG... This Margaret (Peggy) Hamburg was HHS Director NYC.. And facilitated The AIDS spread...
She and her husband owned all this stock in Leviquine an anti biotic made with fluoride that she passed as head of FDA under Obama.. and it paralyzed and killed a bunch of people!!! I know a lot about her from my Cspan years..
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ah Armap you weren't supposted to play...cause i knew you would get it
you actually read all the parts
well the question in reply 47 was did you spot anything in post 45
all of the replies in post 45 were for the bombing in 2017 and every one said so...some said so right in the link...sigh
the article from post 47 is for this year...
details details detailssomewhere in another post someone said this
QuoteREADing is a good thing
bwhahahahahahahahahah
and someone elses signature says this
QuoteLook closely: See clearly: Think deeply;
Quote from: space otter on April 18, 2018, 04:06:23 AM
all of the replies in post 45 were for the bombing in 2017 and every one said so...some said so right in the link...sigh
Ah I get it... you DELIBERATELY posted false information to see if we would notice they were from last year... When I trusted that your links would be accurate...
Hmmmm interesting
So I guess that means from now on we can't just trust that you posted the correct info relative to a thread and will have to look at everything with a fine tooth comb...
The whole purpose of having a TEAM is that everyone in that team adds a little to the over all project... This is not a contest. In the past I have trusted that your posts contain accurate pertinent info and no I do not need to read entire articles when a simple headline answers the question...
My POINT was that the Russians KNEW that we would make those strikes... and when you posted a bunch of links on that, I simply assumed you had dne your usual due diligence and provided GOOD links. There was no need for me to read them to see if they were true or not (even with the snide comment :P )
In any case showing that the Russians also were informed in advance the LAST time is just as good a proof of my point.
And thanks to ArMaP we do have a team member that catches little details like last years dates, as one or two of my links were as well.
So I take note: """double check otters' posts from now on to make sure its not a test""" :o
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:P
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SO...
The TOPIC of this thread is...
Syrian Chemical Factory - Research RequiredInteresting development...
I know Donald Trump was at the opening of the Saudi Arabian Anti Terrorist facility. It seems the Saudis have FINALLY taken an active role in the Middle East mess..
Well I saw this headline and tracked it back to REUTERS and the date is APRIL 17, 2018 / 8:26 AM / UPDATED 9 HOURS AGO so there is no confusion
Saudi Arabia says open to sending troops to Syria under wider coalitionQuoteRIYADH (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia would be prepared to send troops into Syria as part of the U.S.-led coalition if a decision was taken to widen it, Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir said on Tuesday.
"We are in discussion with the U.S. and have been since the beginning of the Syrian crisis about sending forces into Syria," Jubeir told a news conference in Riyadh with U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.
He said Riyadh had expressed its readiness while Barack Obama was U.S. President to send ground forces into Syria if the United States were to add an on-the-ground component to the U.S.-led coalition fighting Islamic State insurgents.
Rest of article here...(reuters gets nasty about copyrights :P )
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-saudi/saudi-arabia-says-open-to-sending-troops-to-syria-under-wider-coalition-idUSKBN1HO2DD
Now I never got around to posting this here before So I will add it here and then move it to it's own thread later.
There has been a major shakeup in Saudi Arabia since King Abdullah died. many Saudi Royals have been arrested... the Bin Ladin oil company (with HEAVY ties to the Bush Oil Cartel) that owns about 85% of the oil in Saudi Arabia has had to lay off 50,000 workers (mostly foreign) and has been under attack by workers...
I was sure I posted all the Saudi issues here recently I will have to check... but Trump was there at the opening of the new Saudi Arabian Counterterrorism Center.
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Sputnik News :P All the BEST info is coming from RUSSIA :P
What gets me though is they all look like CLONES :o ::) :P
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https://www.brookings.edu/testimonies/the-u-s-saudi-arabia-counterterrorism-relationship/
Brookings is still an old and reliable news source
The U.S.-Saudi Arabia counterterrorism relationship
Quote from: zorgon on April 18, 2018, 04:55:32 AM
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Maybe it's just the light or something, but this does not look like a real photo to me. It looks computer generated.
QuoteAh I get it... you DELIBERATELY posted false information to see if we would notice they were from last year... When I trusted that your links would be accurate...
no you don't get it
there is NO false information
the links were true and accurate but they were a year old
a small important detail imo, of course
i was trying to make a point with humor..obviously it missed the mark
one of my points is that the same thing occurred this year is telling....but you didn't get that it is habit for the u.s. to warn other big powers to get out of the way if you would have noticed that little detail of the year you may have had a different impression
it was my intent to post immediately after but another post got inbetween
the fact that you(general you not specific you.) would take info..any info and
not look closely is telling how easy it is to make assumptions
(your april fools post is one example - i got caught in that one
for a bit before i researched it by using the picture and then i still didn't get it was a joke just thinking that you had missed the follow up that it was false.... so double checking ALL posts proves to be important that was another point i was trying to make .. )
i did say there is more if you look and believe it or don't. which was a clue that something was afoot
QuoteSo I guess that means from now on we can't just trust that you posted the correct info relative to a thread and will have to look at everything with a fine tooth comb...
actually you need to check everyones post for that reason
another point was that a lot of things posted on here do not have a date or a link attached so it is impossible to check it out closely
thusly only showing the slant the poster wanted to make and not in context with entire bodies of information that may or may not give a different impression
QuoteThe whole purpose of having a TEAM is that everyone in that team adds a little to the over all project... This is not a contest. In the past I have trusted that your posts contain accurate pertinent info and no I do not need to read entire articles when a simple headline answers the question...
MY POSTS do contain accurate and pertinent info and the date and the link where you can check it out for yourself...that has always been Paramount to me....
wheather you read more than the headline is a personal choice of intelligence gathering not a time constraint
QuoteMy POINT was that the Russians KNEW that we would make those strikes... and when you posted a bunch of links on that, I simply assumed you had dne your usual due diligence and provided GOOD links. There was no need for me to read them to see if they were true or not (even with the snide comment :P )
they were good links and i did do my due diligence
isn't it the readers due diligence to look closely so as not to be mislead
and
you didn't have to go read them as the dates on most and on the
copied paragraph were right there in plain view
and the snide comment was a humorous clue to look closely
obviously misunderstood :P
QuoteIn any case showing that the Russians also were informed in advance the LAST time is just as good a proof of my point.
that was also my point
in 2017 there were articles everywhere on what was done.. in 2018 only one that i could find...another layer of info that i was pointing out with two posts
coming right out and saying it doesn't seem to catch the eye as fast
and i did know Armap was the only one likely to read the whole of it
because it is most folks habit to NOT READ the details
and i know this will disappear because
QuoteSO...
The TOPIC of this thread is...
Syrian Chemical Factory - Research Required
except where it isn't sigh
ps i did notice that the posts after my "JOKE ?" mostly do have links
even though most of the arab info was already posted elsewhere
how 'mean' of me not to say where :P
gotta stay tru to form ya know..wouldn't want my charactor esqued
Quote from: petrus4 on April 18, 2018, 09:20:57 AM
Maybe it's just the light or something, but this does not look like a real photo to me. It looks computer generated.
It is just the lighting... :P
The MARVELOUS invention called the Internet, with a useful tool called Google Search can usually answer your doubts :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0U1MG6hm2o
However... since most photography these days is DIGITAL I suppose you could argue all pictures are computer generated :P
Quote from: space otter on April 18, 2018, 02:05:35 PM
i was trying to make a point with humor..obviously it missed the mark
That would seem the case yes :P You Americans have an odd sense of Humor :P
Quoteone of my points is that the same thing occurred this year is telling....but you didn't get that it is habit for the u.s. to warn other big powers to get out of the way if you would have noticed that little detail of the year you may have had a different impression
Had I had a NEED to check the date of confirmation that we tell the russians everything we do. I would have noticed it... In this case it wasn't a need. The fact they we also warned them last time kinda makes the case.
The CONCERN of people on the net, FB and twitter is that this Syrian attack will lead to WW III, because that was what the old regime was pushing (and still is with the "Russian Collusion" crap that may destroy the FBI)
The fact that the Russians were kept in the loop is significant to show that this will NOT lead to WW III... and besides Edgar Cayce told us it would be Russia that prevents WW III so....
Maybe after Trump's second term... we can get Vladimire Putin as President :P
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Quote(your april fools post is one example - i got caught in that one
Of what USE would an April Fool's Joke be if you said... HEY FOLKES Going to post an April Fool's Joke :P
Kinda defeats the porpoise dontcha think?
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GOTCHA :P
Quoteactually you need to check everyones post for that reason
Don't really have the time for doing that... that is why I created a forum so others can spot those things. I can barely keep the website updated Still haven't fixed all the pages and menus yet. The idea of building a team is to get people you can trust to vet their own posts. Sadly that doesn't happen a lot in forums because enthusiasm and outrage create reactions before thought
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Quotewhether you read more than the headline is a personal choice of intelligence gathering not a time constraint
90 % of news article (and documentaries) contain maybe 10% of useful content, the rest is blah blah blah filler. This is why clipping the pertinent paragraph related to the issue on the table is more useful and productive than posting an entire article Basically like that old Detective TV show were Joe Friday says it:
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In this case saying "I am sure the Russians were informed" does not require reading the entire batch of news articles that basically say in the headline "The Russians were told ahead of time" Do you see that point?
Most articles I just skim over catching the key points of importance to what I am looking for. Most of the time you get the facts in the opening paragraph and what follows is the author's opinion
Quotethey were good links and i did do my due diligence
isn't it the readers due diligence to look closely so as not to be mislead
and you didn't have to go read them as the dates on most and on the
copied paragraph were right there in plain view
Yes they were good articles proving my point so there was no reason to even assume the date was wrong because of a joke... when i was taking this thread seriously and was anticipating your usual due diligence :P
Okay Ya GOT ME Are we even because you got fooled over the Dragon?
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Quoteand the snide comment was a humorous clue to look closely
obviously misunderstood :P
Ah yes... that American Humour :P
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Quotegotta stay tru to form ya know..wouldn't want my charactor esqued
No we wouldn't want THAT :P
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Otter, I know you're initially going to think that this is just me adding to the posts where you seem to be getting dogpiled by Zorgon, but I'm not.
What I am going to say, however, is that this is pointless. In terms of my own point of disagreement with Zorgon and Armap in this thread, as an example; they both like Wikipedia. I do not. Ok, fine. Yes, I experienced the proverbial Orcish rage over that for a few seconds, because Wikipedia genuinely has been a thorn in my side for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTTIh7SPE0c
If there is one thing that Reddit has been good for, it has been teaching me that the majority of the time, other people are not going to agree with my opinion, and I have had to learn to emotionally cope with that. Sometimes it is extremely difficult, because the issue in question will be one that is very emotionally important to me, and I will also feel that I can empirically demonstrate why I am correct. A further point of education for me, has been the fact that Millennials in particular generally do not care about facts or proveable truth at all; they care solely about making sure that everyone agrees with each other.
I don't agree, but I have learned to let arguments go, and maintain my own perspective in private. I have had to acknowledge that I am living in a degenerate society, where pretty much everything is on its' head, and the opposite of the way I believe it should be; and that most of the inhabitants of said society disagree with me, and think that everything is just fine, despite the fact that most of them also exist in a near-continual state of suicidal misery, and do not understand why.
In most respects, solitude is the only choice we have, these days. I used to think that reincarnationally speaking, my purpose in this lifetime was to offer a perspective which in many cases would be subversive, but that would ultimately be listened to, and things would be improved as a result. I have not been listened to, and I have failed, and accepting that is the single most emotionally difficult act that I have ever had to make; but I have done so, and I am beginning to realise that even though I have failed in my initial purpose, there are still reasons why life is worth living. Said reasons, however, also just happen to have minimal involvement with other people, for the most part; because again, most of my values are very different to almost everyone else's.
You have assisted me during one of the darkest and most psychologically difficult periods of my life; a time that I did not think I was going to be able to get out of alive. I therefore want you to know that the purpose of this post, is not to offer you more opposition. It is simply to tell you, that the way in which I ultimately overcame said despair, with your help, was by realising that I can't persue my original objective of saving the world, because the world does not want saving; but that despite that, I can acknowledge and relinquish my differences with the world gracefully, withdraw, and still find meaning, happiness, and peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4
When, owing to the influence of inferior men, mutual mistrust prevails in public life, fruitful activity is rendered impossible, because the fundaments are wrong. Therefore the superior man knows what he must do under such circumstances; he does not allow himself to be tempted by dazzling offers to take part in public activities. This would only expose him to danger, since he cannot assent to the meanness of the others. He therefore hides his worth and withdraws into seclusion.
-- Hexagram 12, Stagnation, from Wilhelm's translation of the I Ching.
you have grown mightily pets r us...be proud
and thank you for caring
Quote from: petrus4 on April 18, 2018, 11:55:33 PM
In terms of my own point of disagreement with Zorgon and Armap in this thread, as an example; they both like Wikipedia.
Well Wikipedia is EVIL on many fronts :P They delete every page someone creates on John Lear as" he is not interesting enough" (was the last reason) and any Tom Dick or Mary can edit it...
But used as a tool it can save you DAYS and WEEKS of research looking for documents Those are found in the CITATIONS at the end of the article
Fzor me looking for mineral information for example... the posts on Wikipedia are just fine... no conspiracy with all the applicable data and free to use photos at my finger tips
So to ignore such a tool. used wisely, would be silly :P
So enough dogging you on that BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
UK PM's husband's Capital Group is largest shareholder in BAE, shares soar since Syrian airstrikes(https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.04/article/5ad62a89dda4c8e25d8b45ad.jpg)
QuotePhilip May, husband of the UK prime minister, works for a company that is the largest shareholder in arms manufacturer, BAE Systems, whose share price has soared since the recent airstrikes in Syria.
The company, Capital Group, is also the second-largest shareholder in Lockheed Martin – a US military arms firm that supplies weapons systems, aircraft and logistical support. Its shares have also rocketed since the missile strikes last week.
The fact has not gone unnoticed by some on Twitter, who agree that BAE Systems has done very well out of the UK-US-France allied airstrikes on Syria, which were sanctioned by Theresa May. It has been reported that the UK's contribution to military strikes was to fire eight 'Storm-Shadow' missiles at an alleged chemical weapons facility, each of which cost £790,000 ($1.13 million) – totaling £6.32 million ($9 million). The missiles were manufactured by BAE Systems.
https://www.rt.com/uk/424392-may-husbands-capital-group/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc9tToN5XGk
QuoteTheresa May's husband has worked as a relationship manager for the research investment company Capital Group since 2005. The Tory-BAE links go even deeper, however. The former chancellor of the exchequer and present editor-in-chief at the Evening Standard, George Osborne's other employer Black Rock is the fifth-largest shareholder in BAE Systems.
QuotePhilip May, husband of the UK prime minister, works for a company that is the largest shareholder in arms manufacturer, BAE Systems, whose share price has soared since the recent airstrikes in Syria. The company, Capital Group, is also the second-largest shareholder in Lockheed Martin – a US military arms firm that supplies weapons systems, aircraft and logistical support. Its shares have also rocketed since the missile strikes last week.
Yep. That's essentially what modern war is. The Death Eater school of economics.
War in Syria Could it be about the
OIL?
Nah no way :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOsxNhVP7jw
Russians want to run a gas line through there...... :P
I once worked for a small defense firm here in Florida. When the first Iraq war started, our engineers were excited to see the product work in real time. The other Iraq wars saw Dick Cheney's companies get nice fat contracts. USMC Major General Smedley Butler coined the phrase, "War is a Racket."
Quote from: petrus4 on April 16, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
I will be very, very surprised if Hillary ever sees the inside of a jail cell; especially if she's publically known to have friends in the Rothschild family.
I'm slowly reaching the point where my desire for the containment of psychopaths is not motivated primarily by vindictiveness or a desire for revenge, as much as the simple desire that they be prevented from harming anyone else. I still think that Hillary is one of the most extremely psychologically sick and damaged human beings that I have ever heard of, but I am in the process of realising that judging people with excessive spite or severity is not in my own karmic best interests.
She needs to be incarcerated, very securely and most likely permanently; but again, the motivation should not be revenge, since that ultimately doesn't help anyone, either her or her victims. The motivation should simply be to ensure that she can not further prey on others.
+1
Thanks for the link to this thread. I am not sure how I missed it.
Kinda weird reading through the thread with Ron being gone and ShiningTree and Space Otter not posting any more.......