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UFO's and Aliens => UFO's and Aliens => Topic started by: astr0144 on June 29, 2018, 05:57:12 PM

Title: Strange unexplained sighting.
Post by: astr0144 on June 29, 2018, 05:57:12 PM
         
This was something that I witnessed earlier today that I thought was rather strange...
I attempted to show a type of plan view (looking from above )of what I witnessed..with some notes.

  This represent a Helecopter from looking from above    o=XO

  This represents what I noticed later...  0------------------0=XO  where I could see a line attached to the back of the helecopter that had a smaller balloon attached to it

I explain what I initially  saw from the back of the building... and show a diagram of a box represnting the building below...

later I show what I aw as I went to the front of the building....


              0-----------------------------------0    this represents how I seen a very fast movong object that was between the helecopter and the building and moved so fast that it overtook the helecopter..

Id estimate the helecopter was maybe half a mile away...  and maybe the faster balloon like object less that half that distance away.

It took me about 10 to 20 seconds to get from the back of the house to the front of it..

and at  the estimated speed of the helecoptor,  I expected the see the helecopter appear at back of the house maybe within 30 seconds and under a minute.  it may have actually took 90 secs to 2 minutes to reappear..
It seemed like time stood still for a short period.. or the helecopters expected speed somehow had slowed down..
which within that period and distance involved seem unlikely while it was out of view..

although at the same time I know my brain was racing....in what I was expecting and I was rushing trying to get another view of it..

Did it change direction or slow down in between is hard to say..  but seeing it once it had reappeared... its position and the direction seemed to still be as I would have  expected..



           See Strange helcoptor                                                            I go to front of building to await it to reappear
              from back of building                                                            expecting to see it within 20/30 secs.
                                                                                                       But it seems more like 60 secs or more
                                                                                                       and I notice a long line at the back of  the                                                                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                               helecopter with a balloon attached

                     O=XO                                                                                  o----------------------=X0

                                                                                                    For a few seconds the helecopter and trailing
                                                                                                     balloon disappeared behind a chimney
                                                                                                      on a distant building

                                                                                            meanwhile I see what seems like another balloon
                                                                                        between the further away helecopter and the building
                                                                            and it appears to be moving much faster than the helecopter
                                                                              and does seem to be moving itself and not being towed
                                                                               or pulled along  by any other type of aircraft.

    Speed of the closer balloon object and helecoptor and distances involved are hard to determine.
           an object closer may well appear to be moving faster even if its not..

             Weather conditions had been very hot and calm at ground level.. but maybe winds were moving higher up...
and air / wind could have been moving in the direction of the strange objects...

BUT  a few hrs later..... I see another unusual balloon shaped as the number 5... moving at the back of the building going in the opposite direction....   Slight winds later appear to have occured...at least at ground level..
It maybe that the wind directions higher up have altered or there has been a type of swirling air currents..

but in the last few days the winds appeared to have been VERY Calm.. as we are in the hottest days of this year..in the U.K at about 85 degrees..


what ever was powering the 2nd later faster moving balloon  (if thats what it was ) seems hard to say..
I say it was a ballon as it seemed round and I think it had some sort of writing on it..

I dont any sort of drone.... and Id doubt anyone would fly one over this particular area at such speed..

So I am sort of puzzled as to what I actually witnessed..

Both the helecopter and Ballloons had disappeared behind other buildings within maybe 20 to 30 seconds on seeing them both from the front of the house..

so you could only see or observe the objects for so many seconds....

It was so strange seeing this other object appear to be moving so fast and my thoughts were that It looked like a balloon... and I dont believe that evern very strong winds would move it as quick as I saw it..

and id say that was certainly over a 100 yards away even if it had been a much closer up object that what I had thought... and maybe say it was just passing by some other inbetween building that what was a further away to wards the end of the road.. so it was not something that was say just 30 to 50 feet in front of my eyes...that flashed past my field of view..   It was a much further distant object than that..


If say the helecopter had come to a halt or changed direction by 90 degree suddenly..

the attached balloon may well have continued moving forward... in the same direction and to have appeared to have overtaken the helecoptor from my vantage point...

at 1st thats the sort of thing that I was thinking had I just witnessed..

but I was just able to still notice that the attached balloon was still trialing the Helecopter as before just before it disappeared and just after I had noted the 2nd fast moving balloon like object disappear behind a closer building...

Also anything that usually flies of the area.. that has an attached trailing line... has nearly always been from a smaller like  aircraft / aeroplane and not an helecoptor...and its usually been some sort of advertising  sign....

In fact that may have been the 1st time that I have seen a trailing line (with a sign or balloon attatched) from an helecopter..


                                                                                                             Helecopter with attached trailing balloon

                                                                                                            o---------------------0=X0





                                                                                                  Fast moving balloon like object seen
                                                                                       from front of building that appears to pass helecopter

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                                                                   Building
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                                                                  l              l  Front of Building looking left...
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Title: Re: Strange unexplained sighting.
Post by: Canine on June 30, 2018, 03:16:49 PM
Theory for IF the lone ufo was an anomalous object - highly speculative -

1. an anomaly was detected in area that public had eyes on
2. visual mitigation technology (balloon chopper) was deployed to create a plausible deniability screen
3. mitigation assets (phone operators) in area - witting or unwitting -  were then likely  relayed the cover story for when the phone calls start coming in 'it's a balloon on a chopper'. Maybe the story flowed to them naturally without prompting or perhaps an asset primed them with a report of the balloon chopper or loose balloon so when the real reports rolled in they were primed.

4. alternatively the helicopter that was seen had a sensor package or ewar pod not a balloon

I know OP didn't call anyone but i bet someone did.


Did you notice anything unusual with regards to your internet connection around the time of the sighting? Was it slowing down? Was your phone acting up? How was reception?
Title: Re: Strange unexplained sighting.
Post by: astr0144 on July 02, 2018, 08:19:47 PM
What you suggest Canine, Maybe a possibility.

I have tried to enquire about unusal sightings before at various aviation related places, be it main or smaller local airports and the C.A.A and have found it a waste of time.. at least when I tried... basically with Airports.. they no longer seem to allow you to contact with Air traffic control for eg... and tell you to try the C.A.A  , but upon trying the C.A.A by phone... I cant recall really what they said last time.. but I did not get any real answer.. they may have said i had to write in or something..or to apply for  a freedom of information enquiry . but would not say anything over the phone in direct response to the enquiry near the time.

My impression is I just dont think they want to say or tell us...  It seems like most Govt departments now just are hard to deal with to find out certain types of information... I think anything to do with the MOD, Intelligence services , Police or  certain aircraft like enquiries... they make it hard to obtain that information or put you to a lot of trouble to try to obtain it.  where as a few years ago you may have got some where more easily..

so I have sort of given up in trying to deal with such departments..

but you do see news articles of people who do report and enquire about such things who seem to get some sort of reponse...

I think it may come down to if a few witneesed something and reported it to the press or maybe TV news.. and maybe they would have more chance of making more indepth enquiries to the related services..

maybe there is a better way to approach trying to obtain such info.. and you just have to go thru that process even if its a long path to have much chance to obtain it..

so I am not really sure what else to consider...

In ref to the Balloon.... It was hard to recall or say specificallly where I saw it as it happened rather quickly and I only noted a glimpse of it...I believe it was over the top of some houses / buildings... but as I said much closer than where the helecopter was later noted when it reappered on the other front side of the building that I was in ...but just how close I am not sure.... and thats part of the problem for me in trying to determining it...  I say that becuase if it was just above a farther away house at the end of the road.. it would had been relatively close to me say within a 100 yards for eg..
and therefore trying to determine its speed would make it seem to be moving quicker than if it was 250 to 500 yards away...

But it could have been quite a lot further away than the end of the road and was just appearing to skim over the top of the buildings..  so thats one of my main problems really...

the other issue is what caused it to appear to be moving so quick if say it was just say a standard type balloon..

The only thing that I could consider is either there a strong gust of wind at the time.. which initially I did not think was the case.. as it had been very hot and clam weather conditions over the few days before.... BUT I later did notice in the day that maybe that the wind conditions did alter a bit that day... so maybe there was some sort of swirling change in wind directions... as later that dy I saw another balloon that was of number 5.. and that was going in the opposite direction.... I later checked the weather and wind direction for that day.. and at the time it was showing to be in the same direction as the later number 5 balloon was going....

The thing is I had not seen any balloons crossing the area for a long time... or any helecopters ever pulling any sort of balloon or advertising signs.... (but I have since found that there are some helecopters that do tow ad signs..like aircraft do at least thats so in the USA.... but I could not find a ref to it in the UK as yet...and there are not that many images of it when I did a quick online search on Bing.)

This is a image from the USA

(https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.HHBD_ayzskeBeNWvkotqdAHaDM&pid=Api)

http://www.flysigns.com/helicopter-banners.php

In the past I have only ever really seen aircraft towing advertising type signs


(https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.b_5iclrITxCuKRgLjrJQrwHaDA&pid=Api)

The other thing was that I dont think any of the balloons where that large... not like hot air balloons...

but id say  a bit larger than standard balloons we may use at parties..and in this case were round shaped..


so the mystery balloon seen a few hrs earlier... had been going in the opposite direction the general wind direction that was shown in the later afternoon...

The other possibility that I have considered since... but I am doubtful... is if there had say been another aircraft or helecopter and it had a VERY LONG line and it was attached to the mystery balloon...

and maybe I somehow had missed it pass over.... BUT that may suggest that if a craft had been towing the mystery balloon and say it had passed over my line of sight before I got to the front of the building... it would had been over 60 seconds , if not 90 to 120 seconds  between the craft passing and the balloon trialing .. I am very doubtful could be the case...

The other alternative is if the balloon was some sort of drone and was some how propelled by some method..
that could be a possibility... but it did seem to fly past very fast... faster than I expect a drone to move..

But I could not imagine any sort of UFO .. man made or ET seeming to have some sort of advert writing on it..

In ref to the initial sighting of the helIcopter..  I think why It seemed to take so long to reappear on the other side of the building is because it was not flying direct over the building.... it mst have been at some sort of angle that was just gradually moving toward the direction that I expected...and what had happened is that it took a lot longer to reappear than I had initially expected...

without being able to draw a diagram its a bit hard to demonstrate.. and I am unable to try to draw some sort of angled line from the ... but maybe this gives some idea of what direction the helecopter was going..

from the back of the building I could see it appearing to move over the top of it.... but at what angle was hard to determine..... exagerated ... it may had even been like the diagional slanted dotted line

its it direction had been going along more the larger dotted or angled diagional line.. rather than the dotted horizontal line... it would take much longer to get to point X provided speed on either possible direction had been similar..


I can only draw the diagional line at one angle due to the keyboard restrictions... but the real angle would had been more inbetween the two options that I had shown in the diagram..



------------->X  point where helicoper later appeared
                 /
               /
             /
--------/----> this was more like the direction of the mystery balloon
         /
       /
     /  _  Plan view
   /   l_l  Front of building

If the helicopter was moving more on a diagional type projection... it  may had moved a lot further away from me by the time it reappered than I had initial noted it when it was seen at the back of the building.. if say it took 60 to 90 seconds to reappaear at the front of the building.. I follow what I am trying to describe..


I was not watching the internet at the time to notice anything weird happening on it...


Quote from: Canine on June 30, 2018, 03:16:49 PM
Theory for IF the lone ufo was an anomalous object - highly speculative -

1. an anomaly was detected in area that public had eyes on
2. visual mitigation technology (balloon chopper) was deployed to create a plausible deniability screen
3. mitigation assets (phone operators) in area - witting or unwitting -  were then likely  relayed the cover story for when the phone calls start coming in 'it's a balloon on a chopper'. Maybe the story flowed to them naturally without prompting or perhaps an asset primed them with a report of the balloon chopper or loose balloon so when the real reports rolled in they were primed.

4. alternatively the helicopter that was seen had a sensor package or ewar pod not a balloon

I know OP didn't call anyone but i bet someone did.


Did you notice anything unusual with regards to your internet connection around the time of the sighting? Was it slowing down? Was your phone acting up? How was reception?