What is this about??
Solar Observatory Evacuated, FBI Involved, Sunspot, NM
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/What-s-going-on-in-Sunspot-NM-National-Solar-Observatory-taken-over-by-FBI/5-2145427/?page=1
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3902305/pg1?regp=bm9fMTUzNjc2NjUwOQ==
nobody's talking but a lot of links for stories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8vSo73vweU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVVhKln8y_c
edit for an opinion
this one at around 8 min has a logical probablity explaination - I M O
bomb threat from someone loosing money from either job loss or customer loss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YHVhu9M1Q
here's the search..if anyone wants to continue to look
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=tlKZW_ORM8j0zgKN3rHAAw&q=Sunspot+Solar+Observatory&btnK=Google+Search&oq=Sunspot+Solar+Observatory&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131j0i22i30.2430.2430..6086...0.0..0.104.104.0j1......0....1j2..gws-wiz.kOPtQejmPZ4
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6160345/National-Solar-Observatory-shuts-mysterious-security-issue-geomagnetic-storm-looms.html
FYI:
Rex Bear is a good friend of mine and has moved from San Antonio [after Harvey] to [accidently] live near another friend, Diamond Dave of Oppenheimer Ranch Project, in Southern Colorado. :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)
Bit of fun to wonder about
https://youtu.be/FLdHksmAJo4 (https://youtu.be/FLdHksmAJo4)
https://youtu.be/syOu5VeLBhE (https://youtu.be/syOu5VeLBhE)
and yet another theory
the place was open to the public
this guy talks too much before getting to the point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAh3IvdNsPI
Hmm, so now they think that the chinese were using the antennae array on top of the solar observatory to see what is going on at white sands missile range 8)
that is interesting, and definitely would be a matter of national security, especially if new systems are currently being tested there...
8)
A guy posted a video to YouTube where he flew a drone over the site and took video. He was not able to provide any more info but said he'd be uploading more videos shortly.
"Paul Martinez
Published on Sep 13, 2018
Came up to this place that everybody is not given us any answers to the hopes that I could find something there was nobody around that was sunspot personal. I ran into some speculators who decided to go walk past the caution tape. There are more videos that took forever to upload. A total of 5 in reference to Sunspot. "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmUAwR55ZTw
from comments section:
Matt Roy:
"Thank you for posting this, did those people patrolling talk to you at all ?
Paul Martinez
21 hours ago
Matt Roy yes they did. They were lookin for some kind of clue to what happened. We all just want our questions answered. It was not an evacuation! Normal business at the Cloudcroft post office... where are these scientists and other personal that were there and left without traces. Where are the scientists to make some kind of statement?Other than going there to look for ourselves and find everyone gone!! I hope that we find answered soon. Somehow I feel like this will be swept under that big 'ole rug. Hard to believe they still got room under it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAJmECOINJA
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5z0Uc-3Iic
well for what it's worth ..probably less than the regular two cents
my money is on what rex bear found in an older news column...
that the guy (or girl) was mad cause they were going to close it all down
and move everything from there
and there would be no store traffic or wages for folks there and this person made a bomb threat or a threat of some kind
humans are usually more of a pain than aliens theories
and if you look up the local papers for there they are planning a BIG development over in cloudplace and also charging more to get into the moab park..so my guess is a pissed off citizen
Quote from: space otter on September 14, 2018, 02:16:02 PM
well for what it's worth ..probably less than the regular two cents
my money is on what rex bear found in an older news column...
that the guy (or girl) was mad cause they were going to close it all down
and move everything from there
and there would be no store traffic or wages for folks there and this person made a bomb threat or a threat of some kind
humans are usually more of a pain than aliens theories
and if you look up the local papers for there they are planning a BIG development over in cloudplace and also charging more to get into the moab park..so my guess is a pissed off citizen
Sounds more plausible than anything else, a bomb threat or maybe a bacterial event. Has anyone checked the hospitals for anything unusual ?
Ahhhhh....a mystery. I love a mystery. Time for some digging. I suspect a powder or something similar came through the post office since they shut that down also. Just my speculation.
Update for September 14th, 2018
http://www.space.com/41834-national-solar-observatory-facility-closed-security-issue.html?utm_content=buffer290e6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
Still closed to the public.
the link is to a pdf and since i am not able to copy from it you need to read it for yourself
i thought i got it here but going back for it the site is now closed..what i was just here ???
Sunspot Solar Observatory | NMSU Astronomy
astronomy.nmsu.edu › NMSU Astronomy › Observatories
NMSU is leading a consortium of universities to continue operations of the Dunn Solar Telescope at the Sunspot Solar Observatory
sunspotsolarobservatory.wordpress.com is no longer available.
The authors have deleted this site.
ok then to here but trying to get back to the pdf thru the blog isn't working so i'm not sure how the heck i found it
but here is the link
https://www.nso.edu/blog/welcome-future-nso/
Home » Blog » Welcome to the Future of the NSO
August 15, 2017
By Dr. Valentin Martinez Pillet – NSO Director
but this keeps circling back and i'm not sure how i got the pdf..but i did and backtracking on my history here is the link
NMSU-SSOCTransitionPlanforSunspot.pdf
http://astronomy.nmsu.edu/ssoc/docs/NMSU-SSOCTransitionPlanforSunspot.pdf
A transition plan to operations of the Dunn Solar Telescope by the ...
astronomy.nmsu.edu/ssoc/docs/NMSU-SSOCTransitionPlanforSunspot.pdf national effort to form and lead a Sunspot Solar Observatory Consortium (SSOC) to ... start date of Oct 1, 2016, this 2-year proposal overlaps the final year of NSO ... 5 tasks will occur via close interaction of new personnel with current NSO and ... The SSOC operations, starting October 2018, will consist of 8.5 total FTE.
anywho in reading this they have explained a lot in their 5 steps to completing this move and makes me stay with pissed off human / perhaps a previous employee
to paraphrase
they are going from a 5 day a week observation with
observers, telescope engineers and science staff
to
a 7 day week and one observer
they have 5 partners in this move and they are all named and there are the charts and process they intend to use to achieve their goal
read the pdf for yourself it's only 3653 kb or 21 pages
since oct 1 2018 was the start for this set up after a year when this was written.. you can see where someone might be just a bit ticked off going from several paid humans on a 5 day work week to i human on a 7 day work week..
i didn't find where it was multiple humans doing different days or not
i'm sticking with my own theory..
pissed off human making some type of threat
at a gov facility the fbi jumps in
space otter, you may have a valid point. Occam's razor?
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 15, 2018, 03:37:27 AM
space otter, you may have a valid point. Occam's razor?
Occam's razor? the ultimate shot to make things easy. Is it aliens? is it propaganda? is it SF? is it something they saw and its supposed no one to see? is it antrax? is it hillary? is it trump? idk.
what i do know is that something is wrong there...
i'm a firm believer of looking at the plausible before heading to conspiracy theories
humans usually did it...lol ;)
kind of a small paraphrasing of Conan Doyles line
Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. Arthur Conan Doyle
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edit to add that it was AURA that called the shots..they would be the employerhttp://earthsky.org/human-world/why-sunspot-solar-observatory-nm-closed-fbi
A statement on the observatory's website currently states:
QuoteOn Thursday September 6th, AURA made the decision to temporarily close Sunspot. The Sunspot Solar Observatory continues to work closely with AURA in order to allow for us to reopen as soon as possible. With the excitement this closure has generated, we hope you will come and visit us when we do reopen, and see for yourself the services we provide for science and public outreach in heliophysics. If you have any questions about the science we perform at the telescope, or about the outreach we provide through our Visitors Center, please contact our Director, Dr McAteer (mcateer@nmsu.edu).
Sunspot Solar Observatory Director R.T. James McAteer also said:
Last Thursday, we got a phone call in the morning from AURA who told us to say that they were temporarily evacuating the site and asked us to evacuate our people. So, I called our people up and asked them to leave in a very sensible and calm manner and locked everything up. We've been out of there since Thursday morning.
Hmmm, not buying that story yet. Evacuation is a word that implies an unexpected forced action. Not SOP. FBI??
Naw, something more.
No news of arrests?.. local Police not informed, or can not give out information? FBI havent released a statement ?? The Post Office was also closed?
Evacuated.
Could they do anything more to make this story very suspcious ? ???
It al seems very ??.. hmm odd. ::)
and it continues..looky-lou's
wierd smell and an x-files dvd
bwhahahahahahahahah
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/23609/watch-this-guy-go-up-to-the-mysteriously-evacuated-sunspot-observatory-and-walk-all-around
ok that was rex bear
going to his site and looks to be going to major crazy theories
https://leakproject.com/fbi-closes-sunspot-observatory-entire-town-now-abandoned-scene/
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why hasn't anyone tried to talk to any of the folks who were evacuated?
Quote from: space otter on September 16, 2018, 09:12:22 PM
why hasn't anyone tried to talk to any of the folks who were evacuated?
Maybe they did and either didn't like the answers or were forced not to talk about it. :)
UPDATE!!!!
http://earthsky.org/human-world/why-sunspot-solar-observatory-nm-closed-fbi (http://earthsky.org/human-world/why-sunspot-solar-observatory-nm-closed-fbi)
Sunspot Solar Observatory will re-open this week
By Paul Scott Anderson in HUMAN WORLD | SPACE
AURA said the decision was made to shut down the Sunspot Solar Observatory in New Mexico because of "criminal activity" and concern about a possible threat to the safety of local staff and residents.
MORE AT THE ABOVE LINK.
http://www.aura-astronomy.org/news/news.asp?newsID=389 (http://www.aura-astronomy.org/news/news.asp?newsID=389)
Observatory back up and running.
Seems it was a case of child pornography.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/20/new-mexico-observatory-shut-down-amid-fbi-child-porn-investigation-documents.html
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 20, 2018, 01:17:49 PM
Seems it was a case of child pornography.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/20/new-mexico-observatory-shut-down-amid-fbi-child-porn-investigation-documents.html
It's possible, but I think it doesn't "connect" (sorry, I cannot think of the right word at the moment) well with the previous version of "a suspect in the investigation potentially posing a threat to the safety of local staff and residents"
Quote from: ArMaP on September 20, 2018, 02:03:16 PM
It's possible, but I think it doesn't "connect" (sorry, I cannot think of the right word at the moment) well with the previous version of "a suspect in the investigation potentially posing a threat to the safety of local staff and residents"
That was a cover story as to not alert the subject of the investigation. They didn't want to scare the guy off until they had all the proof they needed to make an arrest. They raided a janitor's home and confiscated several laptops and phones that he was using at the Solar Institutes Wi-Fi.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 20, 2018, 03:11:46 PM
That was a cover story as to not alert the subject of the investigation. They didn't want to scare the guy off until they had all the proof they needed to make an arrest. They raided a janitor's home and confiscated several laptops and phones that he was using at the Solar Institutes Wi-Fi.
Sarge, you are correct. Having been in law enforcement and retired, a cover story helps so as not to alert a suspect. Standard practice.
smells a bit fishy to me
you don't need a blackhawk helicopter to flush out a janitor stealing
wi-fi for porn..that's just a bit over the top and i'ld like to see how the guy calling the shots answered for that requisition
more to the story i'm sure
Well that's the story the FBI is putting out there. Is there more? Maybe, maybe not. Wait and see
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on September 20, 2018, 03:11:46 PM
That was a cover story as to not alert the subject of the investigation.
I thought that story was published when they reopened the observatory, which means they had already done what they needed to do.
Well I guess they're sticking to the story....I'm sure more info will come out.
Hey Sgt!, anymore news about this? its all quite on this side of the lake :(
Rock ON ! 8)
Fans' :)
Edit** - how weird, just on Facebook and came across this on Clifford Stones page - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1918964901556119&set=pcb.1918983204887622&type=3&theater
here ya go Fans...but i am puzzled by two things
first they know who was doing the porn but he has not been arrested for anything
second they now need a security person for the observatory
something is missing..imo
oh these are just pieces of the articles at the links so if you want the whole thing follow the links
http://earthsky.org/human-world/why-sunspot-solar-observatory-nm-closed-fbi
UPDATE SEPTEMBER 16, 2018:
QuoteThe decision to vacate was based on the logistical challenges associated with protecting personnel at such a remote location, and the need for expeditious response to the potential threat. AURA determined that moving the small number of on-site staff and residents off the mountain was the most prudent and effective action to ensure their safety.
In light of recent developments in the investigation, we have determined there is no risk to staff, and Sunspot Solar Observatory is transitioning back to regular operations as of September 17th. Given the significant amount of publicity the temporary closure has generated, and the consequent expectation of an unusual number of visitors to the site, we are temporarily engaging a security service while the facility returns to a normal working environment.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-mexico-observatory/new-mexico-observatory-closure-stemmed-from-fbi-child-porn-probe-documents-idUSKCN1M001P
UPDATE SEPTEMBER 20, 2018.
QuoteBut the mystery of the Sunspot Observatory closure proved far less complicated. It was finally explained in newly unsealed FBI records, including a 39-page application for a warrant to search the suspect's residence.
An agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation wrote in the affidavit that she was "investigating the activities of an individual who was utilizing the wireless internet service of the National Solar Observatory in Sunspot, New Mexico, to download and distribute child pornography."
The FBI affidavit identified the suspect as a janitor under contract to clean the facility, whose laptop was found to have been used to connect to the observatory's wireless system.
According to the affidavit, observatory officials made the decision to close and evacuate the site out of concern that the suspect might pose a danger to other personnel.
The observatory was reopened on Monday.
The person has not been arrested or charged, and no arrest warrant has been issued, according to the FBI.
Frank Fisher, a spokesman for the FBI field office in Albuquerque, told Reuters that the case was still under investigation.
The warrant issued by a U.S. magistrate in Las Cruces, New Mexico, showed that on Sept. 14 agents removed from the man's home three cell phones, five laptops, one iPad, an external hard drive, 16 thumb drives, 89 compact flash disks and other material.
Quote from: fansongecho on September 24, 2018, 06:21:03 PM
Hey Sgt!, anymore news about this? its all quite on this side of the lake :(
Rock ON ! 8)
Fans' :)
Edit** - how weird, just on Facebook and came across this on Clifford Stones page - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1918964901556119&set=pcb.1918983204887622&type=3&theater
I haven't heard anything new...
Hi Space & Sgt R, I will see if I can copy the 32 pages of the legal documentation that Clifford Stone has posted on Facebook ... it wont be tonight tho' , but I will post it on here when/if I can folks.
Cheers,
Fans'
more.. it's starting to make sensehttps://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/local/new-mexico/2018/09/20/sunspot-nm-observatory-fbi-investigation-child-pornography/1374860002/
QuoteCope, 30, lives on property owned by his parents in La Luz, the search warrant said. A phone message left for Cope at a telephone number listed for his parents seeking comment was not immediately returned.
After Cope could not find his laptop, the court documents said, he began to act frantically and told the chief observer that there was a "serial killer in the area, and that he was fearful that the killer might enter the facility and execute someone."
The observatory closed, without consulting FBI agents, after Cope's comments about the serial killer and his erratic behavior, the warrant said.
TRENDING NOW: Sunspot Observatory workers talk about evacuation
https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/local/community/2018/09/17/sunspot-new-mexico-workers-talk-evacuation-going-back-work/1339472002/
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Quote"We cannot comment on an ongoing law enforcement investigation," association spokeswoman Shari Lifson said.
Lifson declined to say if Cope was still an employee
Why aren't entire cities being overrun by FBI as well? You mean this particular "child porn" was that significant to evacuate a town, make people sign NDAs, and not involve local law enforcement? Right! This story smells so bad it should have stink lines. :P
http://allnewspipeline.com/Sunspot_Reopening_Statement_More_Mysterious_Than_FBI_Evacuation.php (http://allnewspipeline.com/Sunspot_Reopening_Statement_More_Mysterious_Than_FBI_Evacuation.php)
Hi gang,
Just bumping this thread to remind me to come back to it after the work thing today -
Do you folks over there hear/see anymore news on this recently ?
Cheers!
Fans'
go to the website of the observatory.click on the who is.look at the images of the middle aged folks.sunkin eyes,low fat content in face and neck areas.notice the batshit crazy look in the eyes.
being on the mountain top,they were being overexposed to nexrad radiation.
i looked the same way when attacked by my neighbor.thats why the security folks.
not that it matters,if the radiation continues,the security folks will go crazy too.
i know yall dont believe me and me and armap have had discussions about it but i swear its the truth and ive never lied on pegasus,ever!
i was getting samwiched between my neighbor and nexrad so getting a double dose.
now its just nexrad and at tap i have some recent readings.570milligause gives me headaches now.when i busted my neighbor.it was pushing in excess of 600milligause.
odds are it was that high on that dry mountain top in the summer.
i wonder how many had cancer or immune compromised and that was what the serial killer comment was hinting at.odds are the guy could see that folks werent right but didnt know exactly what was happening.probably suspected poisoning.
this is why everybody evacuated yet no toxins were found.as toxins was one excuse they used,or biological hazard.
just wait and i bet the symptoms return next summer,or nexrad has been reprogrammed to rise above mountain top.
nexrad inverts onto populace during summer time afternoons.just as light bends downward in the desert.
i have complained in writing multiple times to airforce and noaa with no change in their policy.
they killed my neighbor just last month.i have the readings to prove it.they are posted at tap.
he had a chronic heart condition that only formed once my neighbors dew was turned off.he gained the fat back on his body and it overloaded his heart.nexrad pushed him over the cliff.
@robomont, what is nexrad please tell ? I am not familiar with the term bud. ???
Thanks,
Fans'
no offense intended fans but are you a bot?
google search is your friend.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEXRAD
LOL! none taken robomont ;D
Can you give the ID of the weather radar that you are closest too ??
8)
Fans' ;D
one of my first complaints was of ok city.they replied it was ft worth.my emf app points to ok city and i told them they were lying.then arkansas/ok border nexrad was hitting us,as emf pointed to them.
i speculate they are doing something weird with magnetic fields as it always comes from north but not magnetic north.they arent just reading weather with the thing,they are doing mutiple things with them.like making it rain.i have seen them burn a hole in clouds,expand a ring around my county,then collapse the ring.
they did that two or three times in a row one week last year in summer.
each time they expanded the ring.it rained where the ring was.it compressed the humidity.condensed and heated it.which caused it to rise and then fall as rain.
on a full moon the nexrad is worse as it a combination of microwave from full moon and from nexrad.
i mentioned this on lop and glp then the attacks in cuba happened on usa ambassadors.cuba is roughly a hundred miles from usa and ok city is three hundred plus miles from me.so its easy to harass from at least that distance with nexrad.
i even measured its beam width at about ten miles at the three hundred mile length.
i had my app on one day while going to town and watched as it rose and fell.i found its peak at the halfway point to town, just by luck.as i know how microwave works.i use to install microwave dishes on radio towers.
so anyways,the harrassment is coming from those two above locations and i can hear it via my tinitus.i then turn on my app to verify.ultimate emf app,xyz,milligause.it saved my life.you can go to goo play store and see my compliment to app maker.
Thanks robomont - lets start another thread on this topic, it is fascinating. :o