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Title: Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Interview
Post by: bigpappy51 on October 16, 2018, 10:30:24 AM
 I am currently looking for information on Alleged "Agent Kewper" I had written a detailed debunk of this man I thought it was possibly on here but i cant locate it. 
I am currently working on a documentary and this man has come up and I was tasked with the facts or lack their of ..

I am back as BigPappy51 years have gone by since I used this name dont hate me for things that may have been said in the past. This docuseries has nothing to do with Robert Lazar. I don't think many in Ufoology can forget this man below "Alleged CIA Agent Kewper"

Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Interview


Its been a while the link to the video wouldn't show up under preview. Anyway with that said I don't believe this man however if anyone has proof of his military records or anything proving anything about him it would be appreciated I lost what I had on this man 4 computers ago.

https://youtu.be/c--gGcsc4aw

BigPappy51
Title: Re: Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Interview
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on October 16, 2018, 04:56:07 PM
As I think I've said before, anyone with a military background as extensive he claims to have would remember it's not FT. Bellview, it's Belvoir. He only changed when prompted by the interviewer. Also done many times during the video. Personally I don't believe him.


Note: there is no security clearance Above Top Secret Crypto, only levels of access and need to know!
Title: Re: Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Interview
Post by: Pimander on October 20, 2018, 07:59:35 PM
The guy says he only has a few months until his kidneys shut down.  (End stage renal disease.)  This is presented as  If he is about to die.

If your kidneys shut down you can go on dialysis and live for years....  Or have a transplant and live for years.

???
Title: Re: Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Interview
Post by: A51Watcher on October 20, 2018, 08:54:41 PM

Agent Kewper brings nothing new to the table.

Everything he 'reveals' has been in the public domain for years.

I emailed Mr. Dolan years ago asking if this guy has provided any documentation for support and never got any reply.

No corroboration is posted anywhere on the net far as I can see.

Title: Re: Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Interview
Post by: Shasta56 on October 21, 2018, 12:20:05 AM
I think when you go on dialysis, you can survive for years.  I wouldn't really call it living.  I've had a few dialysis patients in my career.  None of them seemed to really be enjoying life.  One was non-compliant with her dietary and fluid restrictions, in the hope that it would kill her.  She was in a nursing home, so other suicide options were limited.

People say a lot of things on their death bed.  Some of it might be true.  Some of it might be a guilt trip for their kids.
Title: Re: Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Interview
Post by: bigpappy51 on February 09, 2019, 04:13:11 AM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on October 16, 2018, 04:56:07 PM
As I think I've said before, anyone with a military background as extensive he claims to have would remember it's not FT. Bellview, it's Belvoir. He only changed when prompted by the interviewer. Also done many times during the video. Personally I don't believe him.


Note: there is no security clearance Above Top Secret Crypto, only levels of access and need to know!

I absolutely agree this guy was going by the name Kewper Stein for years and was talking to Linda Moulton Howe who I think is one of the worst sources of info in UFOOLOGY. I had a total breakdown of every ridiculous lie he had told I will have to go back over this ridiculous pile of lies and show them one by one.

4names and his buddy Richard "Dick" Dolan made this film without verifying any of this mans background. They just took Linda Howes word for it. I sat and watched Edgar Fouche talk to Richard Dolan on OOvOO about this story and Ed absolutely showed Richard Dolan what lies this man told especially how the CIA recruited this man. Remember Kewper was so special that The CIA came to him and just had to have him to take on the Military Industrial COmplex at Area 51 under President Eisenhower.. 

What was funny was Dolan said he didn't believe Kewper Stein and did the interview on the spur of the moment from a phone call he had received the man is not on his deathbed they are in a fleabag hotel somewhere. Dolan blamed Corbell for putting out the video he claimed he didn't want the video out and wow it really went viral and sadly people don't do proper research and have no clue and believe this absurd story.

BigPappy51



Title: Re: Deathbed Confession by former CIA agent on UFOs / The Anonymous Interview
Post by: bigpappy51 on February 09, 2019, 05:42:17 AM
Edgar Fouche had written this debunk of Anonymous The Deathbed Ex-CIA Deathbed Confession It took me some searching to find this I remember when we went over this it was years ago already time flies.

This video you can see  Jeremy Corbell @ 19 seconds and his buddy Richard Dolan with guest "Kewper Stein"  This man has read and watched far too many YouTube videos and has blended several stories together. I know that Linda Moulton Howe contacted Richard Dolan and had him go meet this man saying he wa the rel deal... Ok that's how they do there research no fact checking...  ::)

Intro: No name, no credentials, no documents, and no previous history of work or disclosure.  Age 77 at the time this was filmed sometime around 2014 
He can easily be disproved as being ANY ex-CIA director.  Why? He's too old to be prosecuted & the Statute of Limitations have long run out in his case.

VIDEO TIMELINE

https://youtu.be/i2FyONXh22M (https://youtu.be/i2FyONXh22M)

00:10
If he were dying he would be in a hospital bed and not walking around a cheap hotel.
Look at the video, this is not a hospital or hospital room.
It is a hotel room with typical TV, Clock Radio, window A/C, and phone.
You can see Dolan's notes on the bed and his luggage and recording equipment.
The man is using a walker, NOT a wheelchair.

00:15
This guy says he is dying of kidney problems.
He wants us to believe him but he keeps using the words 'blood cleansing' instead of dialysis.
He has the most normal looking skin I've ever seen for a person dying of kidney problems.
He would have a jaundice look to his skin.
This is obviously NOT a 'Deathbed Confession.' Really!

00:45
"That's why I'm going along with the interview at this time."

00:55
Military career... "I was 'drafted' into the military."  - "US Army"
Born 1936 and he would have been 17 when the Korean War ended in 1953.
Congress passed the Universal Military Training and Service Act in 1951 to meet the demands of the war.
It lowered the induction age to 18½ and extended active-duty service commitments to 24 months during the war.
So it's impossible he was drafted as he was too young for the Korean War and too old to draft during the Vietnam war.

01:10
"I was sent to the Signal training center,"  -  instead of the 'Army Signal Corps.'

01:16
"In the Eastern United States" - What state?
"What year would this have been?" REPLY:  "1958'
That means he was 22 years old at that point.

01:30
"I went through the 'radio teletype' course."  "Also cryptography... crypto course." "They pulled the top five students to be instructors"
This is possible. Not unheard of.

02:00
"After one day my boss came to me."
He would have used the term 'my Sergeant' instead of boss.

02:10
"He (the boss) said how would you like to make some extra money."
There would be no extra money for an enlisted man doing work with any three letter agency back then.

02:40
"I would have to get a Top Secret White House 'Q' Clearance."
Even back then, in 1958, it would have taken at least 1 year to get a Top Secret clearance.
Remember the Cold War? 
Not to mention further time to get the appropriate SAPs & SCIs, to be at Area 51, Groom AFB.
And be able to brief the President when this guy was only about 22 years old is impossible.
The 'Q' clearance? Q clearance is only awarded if you need to know or have access to Nuclear related data or programs. Period!


02:42
"He said I'm the Eastern Director for the CIA."
He's talking about his military boss at the Army training school one day after becoming an instructor.
So his military boss was ALSO the Eastern Director of the CIA? He would have been a 'Deputy Director' at best.
But his military boss couldn't possibly have been CIA.

02:50
"After about six weeks my security clearance came through."
That would be impossible even if he were the President of the US.

03:00
"My CIA card was like a credit card." (sic 1958) "slice it and just walk in"
IBM engineered the world's first magnetic stripe card in the early 1960s under contract with the government, and were implemented into military security systems in the late 60s.
Card readers used a bar type code (late 1960s) or a magnetic strip.
In order to scan a bar code you need a optical OCR scan device that translates the code to verify it and activate an open door or alarm response.
With a magnetic strip you need a magnetic tape head reader that also sends the digital data to a translator to activate the opening of the door for access or sending an alarm.
In either case you are talking about computer, optical, and digital technology not available in the 1950s.

("In the early 1970s we were using security door locks where you had to push in six numbers to gain access. Then a few years later each person had his own number assigned to punch in. In the late 70s we were using photo ID cards with the magnetic strips on the back and your picture on the front. In the early 80s we were using a magnetic cards with a palm reader. By the 90s we were using iris scanners, but they had a lot of problems with them back then because of changes in the iris from people who had diabetes and their high or low blood sugar would change the refraction of the iris scanner results." Edgar Fouche)

Wiegand (embedded ferromagnetic wires) and Proximity (LC circuit with magnetic field within less than 20 inches - 1985) cards and readers are still popular.


03:15
"I used an artificial name"
Never. It would be term like alias, assumed name, designation name, moniker, or pseudonym. NOT "Artificial Name"

03:25
"I started working with him (CIA director) on Project Bluebook"
{Project Blue Book (1952-1970) had a small staff. Brad Steiger's wife Sherry worked for Hyneck. There were NO CIA personnel on the Project Bluebook Staff.}

03:40
"Cases we got from Fort Bellville Maryland" (sic Bluebook)
Fort BELLVILLE? He doesn't even know the name of the Fort.  Fort Belvoir is in Virginia not Maryland


04:25
"I always stayed state wise"
A military man would have used the term CONUS, meaning Continental United States. Or at least State Wide. Never 'State Wise.'

04:50
"I was coming in the Army from Fresh Off The Farm so didn't know hardly anything."
So he admits he had no higher education or special skills or talents. Why use experienced scientists or career military men when we have farm boys?
Yep, that's how the military picks people for Special White House and CIA Top Secret programs. LOL !!

06:00
I had to take a vow"   "...for forty years, ...and fifty years."
Never heard it called a vow.  It's called Secrecy Oath and you have to Sign this 'agreement' it before you work on a Classified Program and it has a termination period.
"it's up in 2010" Doesn't he know it's 2013 or is this an three year old interview? Doesn't make sense.


06:25

Anyone else notice at 6:25 right after he says "project" it's clear they edited it but I wonder why?

06:30
"The Project Bluebook thing went kind of pop:
He's referring to the Fall of 1958 but Bluebook didn't end until 1970.

07:00
"Boss says we have a new assignment"
"We're going to the Capital to help Eisenhower see about these Aliens..
So the CIA boss who started off as his military boss is telling him this?

07:40
"President Eisenhower and Nixon were there and said we called the people from MJ-12, Area 51, and S-4 in.. and they said we had no jurisdiction over them.'
No one has ever related that anyone from MJ-12 was at Area 51 or Groom AB.
S-4 has been debunked dozens of times as not being at Papoose dry lake and is a Radar site at Tonopah AB.

8:45
"He says Eisenhower tells him to tell the People at Area-51 and S4 that he will invade and take over the base with the "First Army from Colorado"
Research "The First Army" was never were in Colorado.
"Tell whoever is in charge"
The President and Vice President don't know who is in charge? That was highly unlikely during Eisenhower's administration. He was the five star general in World War II.

09:10
"They took us the 15 miles south to S-4 ...It had different garage door openings.
To this day Papoose dry lake which is SOUTH of Groom AB has NO facilities. Geologists have been there, satellite photos show NO improved roads, parking areas, lights, or entrances  as Lazar claimed. Half of Papoose is not even in the Area 51 No Fly Zone.
However the radar Site S-4 is NORTH of Groom AB at TTR.
There were no automatic garage door openings in the late 50s.
The military would have referred to them as 'Hanger' doors.

09:30
"They had different saucer craft"
He's just repeating the stories of Bob Lazar and his followers who copied the same disinformation.
"It was kind of crashed up"

10:20
"I got the mathematical code for reversing gravity."
And my favorite was that he got a 3x5 card with math code to reverse gravity, Sure just math, what didn't they have physics back then?

10:30
"They were interviewing a grey alien" -  "This one looked a little bit Oriental."
He describes the typical grey alien from fiction books and science fiction movies. Not one thing new or different.

12:30
He says President Eisenhower didn't know there were aliens for sure.
Well if the MJ-12, Area 51, and non-S4 bosses told Eisenhower he had no authority then why would they have let this Army Grunt from the farm and his military/CIA? boss in to see the alien craft and the alien?

12:50
"Went back to Area 51 and they took us into the main building" "...we saw a U-2, which we didn't know existed."
A U-2 would have been in a HANGER or on the Flight-line/ramp. not in something you would describe as a 'main building.'
So far the way he describes this if you listen carefully, it all took place up till this point in less than a year.

President Dwight Eisenhower personally signed off on the U-2 acquisition.
Officials from the CIA, Air Force and Lockheed, the contractor building the U-2, began moving into the facility in July 1955.
The site was selected for the U-2 program in 1955 after an aerial survey by CIA and Air Force staff.


13:00
"...and a model of the SR-71."
The Lockheed A-12 was a reconnaissance aircraft built for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) by Lockheed's famed Skunk Works,
based on the designs of Clarence "Kelly" Johnson.
The A-12 was produced from 1962 to 1964, and was in operation from 1963 until 1968. The single-seat design, which first flew in April 1962, was the precursor to both the twin-seat U.S. Air Force YF-12 prototype interceptor and the famous SR-71 Blackbird reconnaissance aircraft.
So he's speaking of 1958 or 1959 and the prototype of the A-12 wasn't even built before the 60s.

13:40
"...flew back on President Eisenhower's Lockheed Electra"
The Lockheed L-188 Electra is an American turboprop airliner built by Lockheed. First flying in 1957, it was the first large turboprop airliner built in the United States. Initial sales were good, but after two fatal crashes led to expensive modifications to fix a design defect, no more were ordered.
I can find no reference to President Eisenhower ever being on a Lockheed Electra.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower selected the Lockheed Constellation L-049 as his "Air Force One", and named it "Colombine" after his wife's state flower from Colorado

14:00
Meeting Eisenhower  "...the old OSS warehouse building"  "...President Hoover was there." Hoover would have been almost 80 in 1958.
Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA.

Below is the location of the buildings for the OSS during WWII and some CIA still work in these off limits buildings.

(https://s1183.photobucket.com/user/bigpappy51/media/ice_screenshot_20190209-002901_zpsldanznfz.png.html)

15:40
..."Lynda Moulton Howe's phone call, her phone was tapped. They got my phone number...  through the phone company..."   
Well you mean the NSA couldn't find him with all their spyware, or Homeland Security? WTF

15:50
"When they found you what happened" (Dolan)
Response from old guy...

"Two guys in black suits in a Lincoln Town Car..."
Production of the Lincoln Town Car was stopped in 2010 and the 2011 was the last released model.
By this time the government had long converted to bullet proof large black SUVs.



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