Pegasus Research Consortium

Considering they're not meant to exist, flying saucers do seem to pop up quite a bit in government documentation..

QuoteSilver rotating UFO over US Atomic facility (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6a32a2af6d41.jpg)


Flying discs over Hanford Nuclear plant (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/51bee44f432b.jpg)


Flying disc over Topcliffe (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/884179506585.jpg)


Circular objects over Langley AFB (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/27ebdc14d2e2.gif)


Rotating saucer shaped object over Georgia (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f77d4b303a5e.jpg)


Maxwell AFB Emergency Report - Flying Saucer (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c11cd66417bf.jpg)


Disc shaped object over Minot AFB - 1966 (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5e80fa8d2d37.jpg)


Flying disc over Chicago's O Hare airport - 1952 (http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d500c6b606b2.jpg)

and contrary to popular belief UFO/Saucer  reports do seem to pop up in the literature way back before the Kenneth Arnold case.

Curt Collins has conducted some great research below into the historical aspect citing Dewitt Miller's early UFO reports (who was himself sourcing Charles Fort) and the page is well worth a look for anyone with an interest in (or opinion on) the subject.

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The 1st UFO book? Forgotten Mysteries by R. DeWitt Miller (http://thesaucersthattimeforgot.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-1st-ufo-book-forgotten-mysteries-by.html?m=1)

Charles Fort - First Ufologist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei_q9nAAUic

QuoteCharles Fort was an early-twentieth-century thinker and writer often credited with "inventing" the supernatural, or the paranormal, by creating a neutral category for anomalous observations, discoveries, and experiences.

Before Charles Fort, anomalies were typically explained away, or else absorbed into pre-existing explanatory frameworks like religion and mythology. Thanks to his efforts, they can now be set aside for further research, even if they're still often ignored in mainstream science.

Anyone who's aware of any other early pre 1947 UFO/saucer reports then please post as it would be interesting to see how many can be collated - I know I've read a few over the years although sourcing them now might be a bit tricky.




Spanish Civil War - 1930's.

QuoteLocated at a considerable distance, and at an altitude of 200 meters, the soldier saw an object resembling "a Mexican hat" the color of flat aluminum. The sun's rays, reflecting off its surface, enabled him to see that it was a metallic device. It flew slowly as it approached the witness's position. It was then that he was able to observe it with greater detail:

"Seen from below, its shape was exactly that of a cartwheel. In its center, from where the spokes emerged, it had what looked like a photo camera lens and gave a sensation of depth."

When the object approached even closer, passing almost directly overhead, the soldier was even able to make out some curved black windows which appeared on the side of the remarkable "Mexican hat". The following is a transcript of an interview with the ABC Andalucía newspaper:

UFOs Over Spain During The Civil War. (https://civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com/6740/ufos-over-spain-during-the-civil-war)

Nick Redfern on WW2:

QuoteYes, "Foo Fighter" was the primary term used to describe what was seen during the Second World War. But, the term "Disc" was also used during the hostilities with the Nazis. I mentioned this to a certain UFO researcher recently and who practically had a shit fit. I was wrong, he assured me, stating that when it comes to unidentified "things" in the sky, the word "Disc" was not used until 1947.

Actually, that's wrong, as I pointed out. Granted, many people – even within Ufology – may not know just how widely "Disc" was used during the Second World War..

See Link.

..These are just two examples of many from the Second World War – and declassified by the British Government – which refer to UFOs as "Discs" several years before the term "Flying Disc" was created in 1947. In some of the declassified wartime files, the "Discs" were described as being mere inches in size. On other occasions, though, pilots reported such "Discs" as being several feet in diameter – and in a few cases even bigger.

And, while we're still on the game of the name, it's worth noting that the words "Unidentified Flying Objects" were used as early as just two months after the Kenneth Arnold sighting of June 24, 1947. This was when the words "Flying Disc" and "Flying Saucer" were on the minds of many. The relevant document originated with the U.S. Air Transport Command's Weekly Intelligence Summary and is dated August 1

Mysterious Discs Of The Second World' War (https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2018/03/mysterious-discs-of-the-second-world-war/)

Possible 1944 candidate:

QuoteAs my night vision improved I saw a grey saucer-like object emarge as part of the lights. It is still difficult to describe its size... Our Lancaster was a large aeroplane but the only comparison I can make is that we were but a dot on a sheet of foolscap paper. We all watched this object for about three minutes. We watched it shoot away—it was just a flash of light and the vast size was gone in less than a second, without any noise...

1944—Bomber Encounters Giant Disk (https://ufodigest.com/article/radioactivity-skeptics-and-%E2%80%9C-there-no-proof%E2%80%9D)

Could be nothing but in one 1909 newspaper report described below a resident of New Mexico was grazing his sheep on the plain when he suddenly felt the ground shake and heard a voice of unknown origin telling him to 'look up' - he then witnessed 'a dark round cloud full of stars' which came straight towards him, passed over his head and travelled to the East.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkA7TG1UCns



Other sourced reports:

QuoteDate: September 2 1902
Location: Lowestoft, England
Time: 07:00
Summary: A daylight disc was observed by a female witness.
Source: Hatch, Larry


Date: 1901
Location: New Haven, Missouri
Time: Night
Summary: A flying disc was observed. One disc was observed by three witnesses, two of them an experienced observors, in a forest (Welter). A noise was heard
Source: Rogerson, Peter World-Wide Catalog of Type 1 Reports


Date: 1905
Location: Bucovina, Romania
Time:
Summary: During the evening a retired doctor saw a brightly glowing elongated, saucer-shaped object bigger than the moon traveling steadily westwards.
Source: Hobana, Ion


Date: Mid- 1900
Location: Caddwst, UK
Time: Dusk
Summary: A flying disc was observed. One disc, about 20 feet across, was observed by one female 12-year-old witness in a forest.
Source: Lorenzen, Coral E. UFOs: The Whole Story Signet T3897, New York, 1969[/size]


link (https://www.thinkaboutitdocs.com/category/sightings-by-date/1900-1949-sightings/1900-1909-sightings/)

Also some pretty freaky early reports in this report - spinning, flying wheels are described as well as 'notorious satanist' (and alleged Bush grandfather) Aliester Crowley having an encounter with 2 little men in 1896.

QuoteThis 6-page report is derived primarily from the Magonia Database, sightings catalogued by Jacques Vallee and presented in his great work, Passport to Magonia. No doubt some of these came from Charles Fort.

This report deals only with sightings prior to the 20th Century. Four entries, at the time of this writing that is, were taken from the UFO Evidence, 1964 (Hall).

18th Century UFO Sighting Chronology (http://www.nicap.org/waves/prior-47-19th.htm)

Pretty fascinating interview where ex British Diplomat and Intelligence Officer Gordon Creighton recounts his daylight sighting of a fast moving white-ish disc shaped object over the Chinese Embassy in 1941..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLdaBcOr_kU

QuoteMr. Creighton spent many years in the British Foreign Service. He spent 10 years in China and in 1941 he saw a UFO while at the Embassy. In broad daylight he saw a disc-shaped, silent UFO with a blue white light on top flying very fast. In 1953 he spent some time with the Military Defense in Whitehall and worked on the floor underneath a department, Air Technical, dealing with UFO's.

he also describes a really interesting UFoo (or 'Krautball') case from Germany just after the end of WW2 where the object actually entered a military aircraft and flew up and down the inside of the plane in front of eight witnesses (also some intriguing remarks about magnesium).

Also no saucer report but did remember THIS (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5876.0) interview where it's claimed that U.S. Secretary of State Cordell Hull reported witnessing 'alien bodies' in the basement of a Capitol building way back in 1939.

Numerous freaky UFO accounts from France, 1954 (some saucer shaped) - many witnesses report being paralysed by beams of light emitted from the objects or occupants.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l9DtIdw-eiE

QuoteOne of the unexplained oddities of the 20th century was a two month period in France in which countless witnesses claimed not only to have seen low flying and landed UFOs, but alien beings. It was the first time in modern history when such a large wave of "alien" sightings was recorded

Old Australian disc/saucer UFO reports - first three examples also describe paralysis from occupant light beam.

Quote1893 Central New South Wales

An anecdote handed down within a farming family told of an extraordinary UFO story that was alleged to have happened in 1893 in Central New South Wales.  A farmer claimed that a saucer-shaped object landed in a paddock on his property.  As he approached the object, a man in strange clothing emerged from it.  The farmer walked towards the being. The stranger shone some kind of beam at him, whereby the farmer was thrown to the ground, stunned.  His hand where the beam had hit him was paralysed for life.
Source:  Chalker, Bill The Oz files. Duffy & Snellgrove. Potts Point, NSW. 1996. p.28.  Citing that the story was told to Dr Miran Lindtner, UFO Information Centre, Sydney in the 1960's.

Note:
1.  Details similar to the 1919 Central NSW case and the 1913 Nuriootpa, SA case.  Are one or more of these three similar events, a distorted recollection of an original story?




1919 Central, New South Wales

While travelling down a country road, a man came across an artifact resting near the roadside.  He saw that a 'man' was apparently working on it, and went over to offer assistance.  The stranger turned as if surprised and pointed something at the witness, who was knocked senseless.  When he came to, the object and the man had gone. He found that his memory was never the same again.
Source:  Chalker, W C. "The CEII experience in Australia." "Australian Co-Ordination Section" (for the US based Center for UFO Studies) Bulletin, March 1977, number 9, p11.

Note:  Note the similarity with the 1893 Central New South Wales report and the Circa 1913 Nuriootpa event.




Circa 1913 Nuriootpa, South Australia

A farmer discovered a landed object and was "zapped" by a humanoid which appeared from within it, leaving a lasting paralysis in the witness.
Source:  Personal communication from Darryl Tiggeman of Adelaide to Keith Basterfield. 2004.  Citing the source as a radio talk back show featuring Adelaide UFOlogist Colin Norris in circa 1984.

Notes:  Note the similarity with the 1893 Central New South Wales event and the 1919 Central New South Wales case.




1911 Gumeracha, South Australia

As a young lad in 1911 a man had been working on his father's farm, milking cows.  While carrying two buckets of milk, he felt a pain in his head and placing the buckets down, he observed, in front of him some distance away, a disc shaped object.  It was about 10 feet across and was silver and glowing like the Moon.  He watched it for about 15 seconds, then it rose into the air and disappeared at a very fast rate into the horizon.
Source:  UFOPI's "Panorama" magazine Volume 3 Number 5 page 18, Jul-Aug 1964




Spring 1921 Prospect, Adelaide, South Australia

One evening, a man named Felix Jones saw a circular-like saucer.  It was 12-15 feet across, and 3 feet deep.  It was a lightish colour but reflecting green from within it.  It had neither wings nor propeller, but did have rectangular windows.  It was seen in the north-north-west, stationary from three minutes.  It then moved off to the west, slowly, then quickly.  When it moved it glowed at the back.
Source:  Australian Saucer Record volume 2 number 4 1956 page 7.  The item stated that the report was received 15 Oct 1956.




1924 60 miles south of Coolamon, NSW

'Some years ago, an elderly man, Ian Rogers, rang me about an incident when he was a boy in 1924.  One morning he was checking their rabbit traps in the Lysterfield State Forest, south of Coolamon.'  He heard a humming noise and saw a landed object, some 100 yards distant.  It was a 'long, cylindrical shape, rounded at both ends, with four square windows along the side.  It was at least 30 feet long...' At one stage 'people' got out of it. It then flew off into the sky.  The witness said the ground was burnt black and trees singed.  At one stage he said he had a 'small piece of metal' and that 'When I rubbed it with my hands it would move off of its own accord.'
Source:  McGhee, M. (2016.) 'Contact Down Under.' Independent Network of UFO Investigators. Katoomba. Pp 97-98.




1925 Moora, Western Australia

Two young men came across an object resting in a paddock.  It was described as two saucers on edge, with oval shaped 'windows' and four 'legs.'  The men beat a hasty retreat and didn't return for several days.  When they did, they reportedly found the earth scuffed about.
Source:  Chalker, W. C. "The CEII experience in Australia," "Australian Co-Ordination Section" (for the US based Center for UFO Studies) Bulletin, March 1977, Number 9 p12.




About 1945 Wilcannia NSW

'A senior police officer told me of an elderly country woman, now deceased, who saw a traditional flying saucer, during daylight hours, near Wilcannia, in Western New South Wales, in the 1940's, just after World War 2.  She claimed that after reporting the sighting to the authorities, she received a letter from the Australian Air Force confirming the report, and warning her not to tell anyone about the craft.  The police officer attested to having seen the letter, which appeared to be genuine.

Source:  McGhee, M. (2016.) 'Contact Down Under.' Independent Network of UFO Investigators. P. 112.

Catalogue (http://www.project1947.com/kbcat/kbpre47.htm)

   Yes indeed, these flying discs were seen soaring through the skies of earth a very long time ago!
  " In Roman history numerous mysterious objects were reported in the sky. In 154 BC, in modern-day Italy people from the north reported seeing countless objects flying in the sky. In 217, people witnessed shiny disks- resembling shields in the sky. These mysterious UFO's were reported in many parts of Europe not only over modern-day Italy. In 214 BC, Roman historian Livy wrote about 'phantom ships gleaming in the sky."  From= ( https://www.ancient-code.com/ancient-ufo-sightings-ancient-aliens-visited-earth-in-the-distant-past/ )  :)

   There are no pictures of course, but there are paintings. Most of us have probably seen the paintings with disc or shield like objects in them.  Here's a bunch.

                                        https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=UFOs+in+Ancient+Art&FORM=RESTAB

Thanks for the post mate, there's also mention of some interesting historical incidents in this interview with Jacques Vallee's co-author Chris Aubeck ('Wonders In The Sky') and in the full version I think he mentions the famous account of Alexander the Great not being included due to dubious source material. 

https://youtu.be/pZhJWd0kQ8s


Also a good link here about religious iconography and possible ufological misinterpretation:

http://sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_1_eng.htm

Cheers.

Saucer over Hanford Nuclear Reactor - July, 1945.

Sourced by A51Watcher.


Incident:

QuoteUFO SIGHTING OVER HANFORD NUCLEAR REACTOR

Mid-July, 1945

Case report from NICAP files

Radar detected a fast-moving object that was in a holding pattern directly above the Hanford plant. It was extremely high and the pilots couldn't see it at first. As they rapidly increased altitude the pilots all spotted it at about the same time and headed directly for its position.

None of them could recognize it, but they could see it well from their vantage point. It had a saucer-like appearance, was bright, extremely fast, and very high.

The F6F had an operating ceiling of 37,000 feet, but on this day they exceeded that considerably and still couldn't get close enough. It didn't make any overt moves, gave no signals, just hovered there as if observing, staying well enough out of reach.

When some of the engines began to fail, and fuel consumption got critical, the planes returned to base one by one, and the strange craft disappeared as quickly as it came. The six F6F "Hellcats" made visual contact with the object described as the size of three aircraft carriers side by side, oval shaped, very streamlined like a stretched-out egg and pinkish in color.

The witness who filed this report said that some kind of vapor was being emitted around the outside edges from portholes or vents. The object was observed at noon in a clear sky at an estimated altitude of 65,000 feet. After hovering in a fixed position above the Hanford Nuclear Reactor for an additional twenty minutes, the object disappeared going straight-up as the six Hellcats limped back to the Pasco Naval Air Station (Washington)

Also one from January, 1945 and more about intrusions over the nuclear facility in 1950 and 1952 here  (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?board=123.0).

Plenty of pre -1947 reports of unknown objects submerging into (or emerging from) the world's oceans found in Carl Feindt's research HERE (http://waterufo.net/) and below are a few potential disc shape candidates:

Quote1943: Persian Gulf

Seaman Matthew Mangle, from the bow of his ship, sighted a huge disc beneath the surface of the water. The object, glowing with a soft, greenish light, paced the ship at about 12 knots before speeding up and moving out of sight.

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QuoteFeb 26, 1942

When in the Timor Sea, the cruiser Tromp was approached by a large aluminum disc that flew at tremendous speed. It then circled the Dutch vessel for about three to four hours. Finally, it flew off at an estimated speed of 3,000-3,5000mph.

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QuoteFeb, 1942

UFO-USO with "Fins" paces Aircraft then Dives into Ocean - Bass Strait, Australia

RAF Supermarine Spitfire

In mid-February 1942–five years before Roswell–Lt. William Brennan of the Royal Australian Air Force was on patrol over the Bass Strait south of Melbourne, Australia, on the lookout for Japanese submarines or long-range German U-boats. Fishermen in the area had reported mysterious lights bobbing on the sea at night, and after the Japanese attack on Darwin on February 19, the Allied High Command was urging the strictest vigilance.

The air patrol was flying a few miles east of the Tasman Peninsula about 5:50 P.M. on a sunny evening when a strange aircraft of a glistening bronze color suddenly emerged from a cloud bank near them. The object was about 150 feet long and approximately 50 feet in diameter. Lt. Brennan saw that the peculiar craft had a dome or cupola on its upper surface and he thought that he might have seen someone inside wearing a helmet.

The unidentified aerial craft flew parallel to the RAAF patrol for several minutes, then it abruptly turned away and dived straight down into the Pacific. Lt. Brennan emphasized that the USO made a dive, not a crash, into the ocean; and he added that before the craft left them, he noticed what appeared to be four finlike appendages on its underside.

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Quote1945

Object witnessed by crew emerging from ocean aboard the U.S. attack transport 'Delarof':

Summer of 1945; Aleutian Islands

A large UFO was seen by crew members of the U.S. Army Transport Delarof which had been hauling munitions and supplies to Alaska. Robert S. Crawford was serving as one of the Army radiomen aboard. The attack transport ship, heading back to Seattle, was in the open sea past Adak. Crawford was on the port side near the radio room when he heard shouts from some of the crew. He turned and saw a large, round object which had just emerged from the sea..

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QuoteMay. 15, 1879

Persian Gulf. Two very large "wheels" were seen spinning in the air and slowly coming to the surface of the sea. Estimated diameter: 40 m. Distance between the objects: 150 m. Speed: 80 km/h/ Duration: 35 min. Witnesses aboard the ship "Vultur"

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Quote1929 - Saucer/Disc

..about a sponge diver in his home town of Tarpon Springs, Florida. It seems that an old Greek sponge diver back in 1929 was underwater doing his sponging in his old-type sponge diver's suit and helmet, and as he looked up from what he was doing, he saw a saucer-shaped silver disk fly by him under water with lights on it, and then it flew by him again, this time in the other direction.

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Quote1910 The Danish Meteorological Institute

Capt. Breyer of the Dutch steamer Valentijn was in the South China Sea, midnight, Aug. 12, 1910, he saw a rotation of flashes. "It looked like a horizontal wheel, turning rapidly." This time it is said that the appearance was above water. "The phenomenon was observed by the captain, the first and second mates, and the first engineer, and upon all of them it made a somewhat uncomfortable

1936 

Elliptical shaped object which departed silently at amazing speed - witnessed by Canadian Government pilot in Northwest territories (Canadian National Archives). 

See 20:00

https://youtu.be/udGhlL1SQ2A

Report of silver disc shaped zig zagging object - Argentina, July, 1947.

QuoteArgentina's First UFO Sighting - 1947

A serious person and - according to his son - not much given to rumors...Therefore, this gentleman told the following story over the dinner table: at the break of day on Monday, he saw a silvery object shaped like a disk pass by at an incredible speed at an estimated altitude of 1000 meters. It was disc-shaped, flying in an impeccable zig-zag pattern. Suddenly, it plunged vertically, falling into a field five hundred meters distant from the observer's perspective..

Source: El Día (Argentina) and Marcelo G. Metayer
Date: July 13, 1947[/size]

link (http://inexplicata.blogspot.com/2019/07/1947-argentinas-first-ufo-sighting.html?m=1)

Also six flying discs reported over California on the same day as Roswell newspaper report.

QuoteOn July 8, 1947, the very same day that Roswell's Daily Record was reporting the initial "flying disc" story, a remarkable incident reportedly occurred in the skies above Avalon.  An article on the front page of the week's issue of the Catalina Islander details an alleged sighting by three visiting Army veterans of six "flying discs" traveling at high speed from the northeast and passing directly over Avalon before disappearing over East Peak.

According to the story, the six discs appeared at about 1 p.m. and flew in a formation of two sets of three and were witnessed not only by the veterans, but by "hundreds" of others as well.

Alvio Russo, one of the reported witnesses and an Army Air Corps veteran who had flown 35 bombing missions over Germany with the Eighth Air Force, estimated the velocity of the discs at "850 miles an hour," according to the story.

Bob Jung, listed as a "former aerial photographer" agreed with this estimate and said they were flying roughly as fast as the U.S. Navy's "Tiny Tim" rocket, which he had photographed numerous times for the Navy.

Mysterious Island: UFO Action Galore (https://thecatalinaislander.com/mysterious-island-ufo-action-galore/)

Two more pre 1947 disc shaped UFO (and occupant) reports.



New Zealand, August, 1944.

QuoteThe Sign of the Takahe event, August 1944


One of New Zealand's most interesting vintage UFO cases took place during August, 1944.

On a wintry afternoon, a senior nurse stationed at the Cashmere Sanatorium was out walking on the Port Hills overlooking Christchurch when she came upon a landed UFO, complete with 'little green men'.  

The Mrs. Church caseis highly detailed, unusual, and attracted much interest world-wide when it was first reported by Bruce Harding some thirty years afterwards.


Walking downhill, amongst the low hilly slopes, Mrs. Church saw a large 'upturned saucer', sitting on a gentle slope. Mrs. Church noted that, although it was "very close to the road", it would have been hidden from traffic on Dyers Pass Road by a slight rise..

Mrs. Church quietly walked over to the upturned saucer, stopped and stared at it, for about 8-10 minutes in total. She was "quite close really" and "didn't feel any effect at all". She thought to herself how unusual it was – "What will they invent next?"

She immediately thought the craft was some gimmick from the Industries Fair which was running at the time down in the central city. However, on noticing "occupants" nearby, no more than four feet tall, she surmised that it must be a Japanese device. 

The three "little men/occupants", or "little fellas", were inside transparent cases. One was standing outside the craft. Another was in a "doorway-window" area of the craft and she could see the top of a third helmet in the same "window" area. Mrs. Church thinks that the trio were watching the Industries Fair and looking at the city – the city lights were starting to come on, as cloud descended and the late wintry afternoon got darker.

"The occupants of the object appeared to be absorbed in watching the fair and city generally." 

The thought of little green men crossed her mind ("in thefairy-land, not the flying saucer sense – flying saucers came along much later!"), but, as she put it, "I thought they were Japanese."

Full Report - UFOCUS NZ Research Network  (http://www.ufocusnz.org.nz/content/1944-The-Sign-of-the-Takahe-Event/150.aspx)

And Argentina in the early 1940's (EM effects also on police car).

QuoteEyewitness sketch at link


After covering a significant distance in the police car, their guide pointed out the possible impact site: There, some 200 meters away from the group, near a hill, was an exceedingly strange, glowing, disc-shaped object, which remained on the ground and in their sight. Surrounding the object was an undetermined number of figures that "came and went".

At a distance, these being appeared to be very tall, clad in seemingly metallic and luminous outfits. They moved slowly and they carried in their hands what looked like "mugs". We must imagine such a sight in the early 1940s.

THE FIRST HUMANOIDS IN ARGENTINA (https://www.ufodigest.com/article/the-first-humanoids-in-argentina/)