So you believe what NASA says? Think again.....
This maybe old news to some but I saw this the other day and thought it was interesting...(and funny at the screwups)
https://youtu.be/qtD1ST1VUCw
Hmm, so basicaly then men never walked on the moon, the ISS doesn't exist except as cgi, Hubble images aren't real along with Cassinni...
so we live in a fishbowl where everything is a fabrication...
::)
riigghhttt...
I know some of it is a bit much but the altering of photos, at least to me, are proven. The manipulation of cgi on the ISS is also proven. Now whether are not they are up there is another matter and all this talking of how can we get out LEO is right there in their own words.
What a do you say to that?
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 22, 2019, 04:07:20 AM
I know some of it is a bit much but the altering of photos, at least to me, are proven. The manipulation of cgi on the ISS is also proven. Now whether are not they are up there is another matter and all this talking of how can we get out LEO is right there in their own words.
What a do you say to that?
I say we are surrounded by several generations of stupid people that will either believe anything or refuse to believe anything ::)
I still believe NASA is a dog and pony show to entertain Joe Sixpack and far removed from the real space program
those morons yapping about how to get out of LEO are, in my opinion, talking shit just to confuse the issue and keep everyone doubting everything, just as a smokescreen
we have people convinced that Nibiru is in our solar system and about to smack us based on camera artifacts and lens flare
we have people convinced that the earth is flat and the universe revolves around it
and on and on and on...
::)
Some points:
- He doesn't know what JPEG compression looks like;
- He doesn't know what MPEG compression looks like either;
- On that page showing the auroras in Jupiter he didn't read (or read it and hid it on the video on purpose, as we cannot see the bottom part of the image) the image legend, that says:
"Astronomers are using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope to study auroras — stunning light shows in a planet's atmosphere — on the poles of the largest planet in the solar system, Jupiter. This is an image composite of two different Hubble observations. The auroras were photographed during a series of Hubble Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph far-ultraviolet-light observations taking place as NASA's Juno spacecraft approaches and enters into orbit around Jupiter. The full-color disk of Jupiter in this image was separately photographed at a different time by Hubble's Outer Planet Atmospheres Legacy (OPAL) program, a long-term Hubble project that annually captures global maps of the outer planets.";
- The first star comparison shows what looks like Venus. It can only be Mercury or Venus, as we can see that it's not completely "full", and only interior planets have phases like the Moon, as they go from having the sunlit face towards us or away from us. The second star comparison appears to use a computer generated image based on non-visible light images from the Sun, as stars never appear that big on a telescope, not even Hubble, as their angular resolution is not enough to show far away stars like that;
- The "bubbles" argument is just silly, as bubbles don't change brightness or move that way;
- Everything falls back down if it doesn't achieve escape velocity;
- No, rocks on Mars do not like like the rock on Devon Island;
- No, NASA doesn't say they don't know how to go through the Van Allen belts. What the engineer says (and they cut out that part) is that "radiation like this can harm the guiding systems, on-board computers and other electronics on Orion". The modern electronics are the problem, as they are much more sensitive to radiation;
- "Who filmed them leaving?" The camera that was left on the Moon and was controlled from Earth;
- No, the direction of the shadows is not impossible, it's called perspective;
- "Where did the lights go?" Nowhere, as any photographer would tell him, they are probably there but invisible because of the very bright ISS on the foreground;
Now, on the other hand, I have seen altered photos on NASA's sites, but in much smaller numbers (most altered photos exist on non-NASA sites but people say that, as they are NASA photos, it was NASA that did the alterations) but I have never seen any altered photo on the PDS, where the (digital) originals are available.
Quote from: The Seeker on August 22, 2019, 01:58:40 PM
those morons yapping about how to get out of LEO are, in my opinion, talking shit just to confuse the issue and keep everyone doubting everything, just as a smokescreen
I think it's a problem of lack of context. If they are talking about manned missions from the last 30 years, none have been out of LEO.
You're right on most parts ArMaP, but are you saying the vids of the shows on the ISS are actual legitimate and not manipulate in any way?
No, I'm not saying that, and as I never watched one of those I don't have any information about it.
Without information I don't comment. :)
Help me ArMaP, are you saying you didn't watch the video? If that is the case, how can you make the comments you made in the previous post?
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 23, 2019, 01:24:02 AM
Help me ArMaP, are you saying you didn't watch the video? If that is the case, how can you make the comments you made in the previous post?
Sarge, he said he didn't watch the vids of the shows on the ISS;
confusion is oft eliminated if you quote what you are replying to in a post, or pm, etc...
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 23, 2019, 01:24:02 AM
Help me ArMaP, are you saying you didn't watch the video?
As
The Seeker said, what I meant is that I never watched one of those ISS shows, so I cannot comment. For example, not knowing how long those shows last I cannot say if it's too long for a simulated zero G or not.
Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2019, 02:07:36 AM
As The Seeker said, what I meant is that I never watched one of those ISS shows, so I cannot comment. For example, not knowing how long those shows last I cannot say if it's too long for a simulated zero G or not.
Yes I understand that you don't watch videos and therefore, since I posted a video that you didn't watch, how can you post such a long comment about a video you didn't watch?
And for those that are reading impaired, here is ArMaP's comments:
He doesn't know what JPEG compression looks like;
- He doesn't know what MPEG compression looks like either;
- On that page showing the auroras in Jupiter he didn't read (or read it and hid it on the video on purpose, as we cannot see the bottom part of the image) the image legend, that says:
"Astronomers are using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope to study auroras — stunning light shows in a planet's atmosphere — on the poles of the largest planet in the solar system, Jupiter. This is an image composite of two different Hubble observations. The auroras were photographed during a series of Hubble Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph far-ultraviolet-light observations taking place as NASA's Juno spacecraft approaches and enters into orbit around Jupiter. The full-color disk of Jupiter in this image was separately photographed at a different time by Hubble's Outer Planet Atmospheres Legacy (OPAL) program, a long-term Hubble project that annually captures global maps of the outer planets.";
- The first star comparison shows what looks like Venus. It can only be Mercury or Venus, as we can see that it's not completely "full", and only interior planets have phases like the Moon, as they go from having the sunlit face towards us or away from us. The second star comparison appears to use a computer generated image based on non-visible light images from the Sun, as stars never appear that big on a telescope, not even Hubble, as their angular resolution is not enough to show far away stars like that;
- The "bubbles" argument is just silly, as bubbles don't change brightness or move that way;
- Everything falls back down if it doesn't achieve escape velocity;
- No, rocks on Mars do not like like the rock on Devon Island;
- No, NASA doesn't say they don't know how to go through the Van Allen belts. What the engineer says (and they cut out that part) is that "radiation like this can harm the guiding systems, on-board computers and other electronics on Orion". The modern electronics are the problem, as they are much more sensitive to radiation;
- "Who filmed them leaving?" The camera that was left on the Moon and was controlled from Earth;
- No, the direction of the shadows is not impossible, it's called perspective;
- "Where did the lights go?" Nowhere, as any photographer would tell him, they are probably there but invisible because of the very bright ISS on the foreground;
Now, on the other hand, I have seen altered photos on NASA's sites, but in much smaller numbers (most altered photos exist on non-NASA sites but people say that, as they are NASA photos, it was NASA that did the alterations) but I have never seen any altered photo on the PDS, where the (digital) originals are available.Who is the 'HE' you are talking about?
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 23, 2019, 03:11:35 AM
Yes I understand that you don't watch videos and therefore, since I posted a video that you didn't watch, how can you post such a long comment about a video you didn't watch?
And for those that are reading impaired, here is ArMaP's comments:
He doesn't know what JPEG compression looks like;
- He doesn't know what MPEG compression looks like either;
- On that page showing the auroras in Jupiter he didn't read (or read it and hid it on the video on purpose, as we cannot see the bottom part of the image) the image legend, that says:
"Astronomers are using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope to study auroras — stunning light shows in a planet's atmosphere — on the poles of the largest planet in the solar system, Jupiter. This is an image composite of two different Hubble observations. The auroras were photographed during a series of Hubble Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph far-ultraviolet-light observations taking place as NASA's Juno spacecraft approaches and enters into orbit around Jupiter. The full-color disk of Jupiter in this image was separately photographed at a different time by Hubble's Outer Planet Atmospheres Legacy (OPAL) program, a long-term Hubble project that annually captures global maps of the outer planets.";
- The first star comparison shows what looks like Venus. It can only be Mercury or Venus, as we can see that it's not completely "full", and only interior planets have phases like the Moon, as they go from having the sunlit face towards us or away from us. The second star comparison appears to use a computer generated image based on non-visible light images from the Sun, as stars never appear that big on a telescope, not even Hubble, as their angular resolution is not enough to show far away stars like that;
- The "bubbles" argument is just silly, as bubbles don't change brightness or move that way;
- Everything falls back down if it doesn't achieve escape velocity;
- No, rocks on Mars do not like like the rock on Devon Island;
- No, NASA doesn't say they don't know how to go through the Van Allen belts. What the engineer says (and they cut out that part) is that "radiation like this can harm the guiding systems, on-board computers and other electronics on Orion". The modern electronics are the problem, as they are much more sensitive to radiation;
- "Who filmed them leaving?" The camera that was left on the Moon and was controlled from Earth;
- No, the direction of the shadows is not impossible, it's called perspective;
- "Where did the lights go?" Nowhere, as any photographer would tell him, they are probably there but invisible because of the very bright ISS on the foreground;
Now, on the other hand, I have seen altered photos on NASA's sites, but in much smaller numbers (most altered photos exist on non-NASA sites but people say that, as they are NASA photos, it was NASA that did the alterations) but I have never seen any altered photo on the PDS, where the (digital) originals are available.
Who is the 'HE' you are talking about?
Ok,,,,,NOW i understand what you meant ArMaP.....(you didn't watch the ISS part....I get it now)... 8)
AND the 'reading impaired' is ME....LOLOLOL
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 23, 2019, 03:11:35 AM
Who is the 'HE' you are talking about?
The guy that made the video.
PS: should it be "who made the video"?
Quote from: ArMaP on August 23, 2019, 02:00:12 PM
The guy that made the video.
PS: should it be "who made the video"?
I understand your original comment,...it took me awhile but hey I'm almost 70....lolol