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Title: Documentary about addiction
Post by: The Seeker on February 08, 2020, 02:38:03 AM
One of the most tragic struggles in our world today is the fight against addiction in all its many forms
the link below was sent to me, a documentary about addiction, and its cost to all those faced with it
Please watch it and share it, if you will

http://filmfreeway.com/ComingClean211
(http://filmfreeway.com/ComingClean211) 

:'(

Seeker
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: spacemaverick on February 08, 2020, 04:08:49 PM
Thank you Seeker.  For those who do not know, this was my son speaking in this film.  He talks about my other son Tim who is the one who died of the overdose.  We put this out over Facebook, YouTube, and the neighborhood app.  So far it has over 13,000 views and will be shown in a film festival here in the states.  Drug abuse is a worldwide problem.  So it was put together by a friend of the family who is a 17-year law enforcement member with the same department my son Greg and I worked for for years.

Our target to start was our county and then we wanted to spread the message.  I would appreciate it if you could spread this across social media platforms if you are a member of a social media platform.

YouTube:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LOqE6q9Cas&list=LLFX6Sjncv7IWX5uHGxiSAIg&index=3&t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LOqE6q9Cas&list=LLFX6Sjncv7IWX5uHGxiSAIg&index=3&t=0s)

Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/comingcleandocumentary/?epa=SEARCH_BOX (http://www.facebook.com/comingcleandocumentary/?epa=SEARCH_BOX)

and the link that Seeker posted.  Thank you.  I may add some additional information about the same drug issues in other countries.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: micjer on February 10, 2020, 02:01:47 PM
I watched this 4 part docu on netflix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiHZ_wU4ktQ


To sum it up, most of the blame for the epidemic (pharma drug addiction) should be aimed toward big pharma itself. (Perdue in this case), for producing these addictive drugs like oxycontin that doctors over prescribed.  Some like the doctor below started pill mills and made huge profits before being busted,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWsiLxnEdFQ


Statistics show over 400000 americans have overdosed on Oxy since the year 2000.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: spacemaverick on February 10, 2020, 03:01:03 PM
I just finished watching it a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 10, 2020, 10:14:44 PM
Quote from: micjer on February 10, 2020, 02:01:47 PM

To sum it up, most of the blame for the epidemic (pharma drug addiction) should be aimed toward big pharma itself. (Perdue in this case), for producing these addictive drugs like oxycontin that doctors over prescribed.  Some like the doctor below started pill mills and made huge profits before being busted,


Statistics show over 400000 americans have overdosed on Oxy since the year 2000.

since the doctors over prescribed, shouldn't the blame go on them and not the big pharma?....sounds reasonable to me....
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: micjer on February 10, 2020, 11:09:17 PM
Well certainly the greedy doctors that made millions out of it, however the sales people for the Perdue Pharma told the doctors that their product was not as addictive as other painkillers, misleading them.

It was a good pain killer used properly to those that really needed it,

However the folks that got hooked on it would crush the pill (which was designed to be long acting and slow releasing) to get a rush and by doing so caused the overdosing.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: spacemaverick on February 10, 2020, 11:13:46 PM
When I get my regular Internet back, I will post additional information.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: spacemaverick on February 11, 2020, 05:32:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOmbQ6sp978 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOmbQ6sp978)

How Fentanyl became America's deadliest epidemic and its China origins.

This is not my intellectual property and total credit goes to the author who is in the video.  This video purely for educational purposes.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: spacemaverick on February 11, 2020, 05:44:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ki7d_R-t60&list=LLFX6Sjncv7IWX5uHGxiSAIg&index=6&t=0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ki7d_R-t60&list=LLFX6Sjncv7IWX5uHGxiSAIg&index=6&t=0s)

From Vice News!
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on February 11, 2020, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: micjer on February 10, 2020, 11:09:17 PM
Well certainly the greedy doctors that made millions out of it, however the sales people for the Perdue Pharma told the doctors that their product was not as addictive as other painkillers, misleading them.
Well if that is the case as you say, then there is plenty of blame to go around. Doctors, Pharma, and most importantly, individuals that abuse it
It was a good pain killer used properly to those that really needed it,

However the folks that got hooked on it would crush the pill (which was designed to be long acting and slow releasing) to get a rush and by doing so caused the overdosing.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: The Seeker on February 11, 2020, 12:59:12 PM
The cause and effect can be argued all day; the issue is still the same and is a major problem for too many people...

big pharma stays on the doctors to use meds that treat symptoms, not cure, and that is just wrong, they don't want you to be healthy, just a repeat customer..
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: micjer on February 11, 2020, 01:14:35 PM
Nailed it.

The salesman in the docu above told how he had great sales volumes but it wasn't good enough for the company and was pushed to increase volume.

He started to realize what was going on, and his conscience made him resign.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: Littleenki on February 11, 2020, 07:30:07 PM
Wow, what a moving production..my heart goes out to you Space Maverick, and everyone who can relate here... I too have lost family in a similar fashion more than once..

there is no way to ever get over the feelings that go with this, but I wish you and yours the best in dealing with this over time my friend.

Best
Dave
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: spacemaverick on February 12, 2020, 12:38:39 AM
Quote from: Littleenki on February 11, 2020, 07:30:07 PM
Wow, what a moving production..my heart goes out to you Space Maverick, and everyone who can relate here... I too have lost family in a similar fashion more than once..

there is no way to ever get over the feelings that go with this, but I wish you and yours the best in dealing with this over time my friend.

Best
Dave

Thanks, I'm sorry for your losses.  We never get over it...we get through it.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: micjer on February 12, 2020, 01:01:17 PM
Thanks for posting your video Space Maverick.  It was very moving and I feel bad for you and your son in the video.  Very emotional.

I agree with him when he speaks of the intervention attempt.  It is much easier on tv.  In reality things are so complicated, and these drugs are so addicting that rational thoughts are not possible for the addicted.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: Shasta56 on February 15, 2020, 03:15:25 PM
Big pharma was marketing Oxycontin as being less dangerous and less addictive than other narcotics.  There was also the addition of pain as the fifth vital sign.  Add in doctors who would prescribe opiates freely, and the reluctance of the DEA to make hydrocone a schedule II drug, addictive quantities were easy to get.  Even when clamp downs started, it wasn't that difficult to get prescriptions.  People simply went to new doctors, farther away, and claimed excruciating pain until they got what they wanted. 

My nephew started with pain medication after rotator cuff surgery.  The surgery was not done well, which left him with chronic pain.  Rather than trying to have the problem addressed surgically or with physical therapy, he just took more pills.  It was easier.  He lost his automotive repair shop in 2010.  In 2011 he lost his life to an accidental overdose. 
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: spacemaverick on February 17, 2020, 06:02:13 AM
Quote from: Shasta56 on February 15, 2020, 03:15:25 PM
Big pharma was marketing Oxycontin as being less dangerous and less addictive than other narcotics.  There was also the addition of pain as the fifth vital sign.  Add in doctors who would prescribe opiates freely, and the reluctance of the DEA to make hydrocone a schedule II drug, addictive quantities were easy to get.  Even when clamp downs started, it wasn't that difficult to get prescriptions.  People simply went to new doctors, farther away, and claimed excruciating pain until they got what they wanted. 

My nephew started with pain medication after rotator cuff surgery.  The surgery was not done well, which left him with chronic pain.  Rather than trying to have the problem addressed surgically or with physical therapy, he just took more pills.  It was easier.  He lost his automotive repair shop in 2010.  In 2011 he lost his life to an accidental overdose.

Shasta, I'm so sorry for your loss.  I know how you feel.
Title: Re: Documentary about addiction
Post by: spacemaverick on February 20, 2020, 07:44:49 AM
Our video has around 21,200 views now just from the Facebook posts, about 316 on YouTube and has entered the Prison City Texas Film Festival.