Pegasus Research Consortium

I think it's someone (or some organisation) playing some kind of game with people in the Internet.

I haven't followed it because, as far as I could see, some things said become true, some not, like when people make predictions based on what is going on and not on some hidden knowledge.

Also, it's not presented from an impartial position, as it starts by making it clear that there are two sides and that they are trying to make one side accept the other.

Besides that, that image has almost one year, and I don't remember anything special happening since June 2019.

Here are the first two (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10881.msg142890#msg142890) posts (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10881.msg142876#msg142876) I made about Q on this site, which I link here, in order to avoid repeating myself.

To add to that slightly, however; I now put Q in the same catagory as Benjamin Fulford.  Deluded at best, disinfo at worst.  Q has talked about how Hillary Clinton's arrest is supposedly imminent for a couple of years now, and it still hasn't happened.

He/she/it/them can be safely ignored.

Thanks for the input folks.

If it is no better than B Fulford than that speaks volumes there.

Some of the info has turned out to be correct and some seems to be BS

There has been some arrests like Jeffrey Epstein, with connection to english royality (Prince Andrew), and Trump has been "draining the swamp"+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein


Bill Clinton lauded Epstein as "a committed philanthropist" with "insights and generosity".[224] At the time Epstein was on the board of Rockefeller University, a member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations, and was a major donor to Harvard University


Later in the evening, in violation of the jail's normal procedure, Epstein was not checked every 30 minutes.[265][179][266] The two guards who were assigned to check his jail unit that night fell asleep and did not check on him for about three hours; the guards falsified related records.[179][268]Two cameras in front of Epstein's cell also malfunctioned that night.[15]

Epstein was found dead in his cell at the Metropolitan Correction Center

How convenient.


But on the other side, saying JFK jr is still alive and going to resurface is a stretch indeed.

And talking about Pizzagate seems odd since it looks like it was a hoax.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

In February 2017, Alefantis' lawyers sent Jones a letter demanding an apology and retraction. Under Texas law, Jones was given a month to comply or be subject to a libel suit.[84] In March 2017, Alex Jones apologized to Alefantis for promulgating the conspiracy theory, saying: "To my knowledge today, neither Mr. Alefantis, nor his restaurant Comet Ping Pong, were involved in any human trafficking as was part of the theories about Pizzagate that were being written about in many media outlets and which we commented upon."[85]

Each is entitled to their own opinion and view of things regarding Qanon; to class it with Fulford is your opinion,Petrus, but I see things a little differently...

Epstein and now Weinstein are but the tip of the iceberg as more and more of the sickness in Hollywood and around the world is revealed...

Alex Jones is a puppet, no less, no more, used to draw attention away using half truths and misdirection...

Seeker

I agree on AJ.

Having looked at the Pizzagate stuff, there is no denying that there was some very weird artwork hanging on the walls of the ping pong area.  The owner is very well connected in Washington.

Now these ping pong tables were reported to be in the basement, which proved to be wrong as there is no basement.  However the tables were there, in the back room!

Now the artwork is no longer there as it has been painted over, but most people would not want that kind of art in a place with children imho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Ping_Pong


https://www.google.ca/search?sxsrf=ALeKk02totItD2vme2gMKgSQ8ZOk89mzmA:1584968880284&q=comet+ping+pong+artwork&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjMjtuY1bDoAhUIl3IEHQMhCysQsAR6BAgKEAE&biw=1280&bih=655

Quote from: The Seeker on March 23, 2020, 12:43:01 PM
Epstein and now Weinstein are but the tip of the iceberg as more and more of the sickness in Hollywood and around the world is revealed...

Quote from: micjer on March 23, 2020, 01:29:35 PM
Having looked at the Pizzagate stuff, there is no denying that there was some very weird artwork hanging on the walls of the ping pong area.  The owner is very well connected in Washington.

Now these ping pong tables were reported to be in the basement, which proved to be wrong as there is no basement.  However the tables were there, in the back room!

That's the best way of creating credible hoaxes, you pick some true facts from one source , add another true facts from a different source and create a fake story mixing them. If anyone tries to check the facts they will see that they are true and, usually, stop researching and accept the whole story, specially if they are part of the intended audience.

Side note, looks like the Democrats are going to chose this guy as their candidate....

they should be looking in the closet for skeletons first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na1H9_-F6QM&list=PLj3id4v1E1KafTcnNa84MuwXhpaeYNEEG&index=2

Quote from: micjer on March 23, 2020, 04:49:57 PM
they should be looking in the closet for skeletons first.

I'm sure they know about his skeletons, but maybe he also knows about the others' skeletons, so they have to do what he says. :)

I see Weinstein is in isolation after contracting Covid  ;D

I saw a post on Twitter that stated the Tom Hanks and his bint of the image of them in "isolation" at a Aussie hospital, it was found to be false, the picture has been cropped now and removed from the internet but the grey steel door they were stood in front of had a US Military asset bar-code, I will try and find the YT video that explained this AND other celebrity / satanic / child abuse stories.

RE Q..  I am not sure what to believe, I do see some elements of his / hers / its posts that seem to come true but I see other posts that seem to me at least to be pure nonsense - I did hear off another alt-media show/site that Pres Trump will be evacuated into AF-1 before the end of the week to eliminate a deep state attack on him.

IF there is a White Hat operation to drain the deep state (I hope so) then I would expect the Clintons to be top of a list of celebrities/politicians that either die unexpectedly are arrested or contract the virus.

I do believe there is a global Deep State and Shadow Governments much like the Hydra from Marvel World, if The 45 can make some headway into eliminating them and making the world a better place for all then more power to him.

Cheers,

Fans'

This is YT and ties in a lot of conspiracy stories re Child abuse, Satanic worship, Adrenochrome and celebrities in isolation (Hanks and his bint) well worth a watch I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTP4bZgMmp4

After spending some research time on this subject, I would summarize that there are two key parts to this,


One

Whether there are evil people in this world that are satan worshipers whose  goal is to keep people in the dark of their intentions and actions.

Seems to be overwhelming evidence that there is.


And Two

Whether Q is a real thing that is going to expose all of the dark in this world or is it a play by Trump and his Intel to gather support for re-election from the truth seekers and evangelists. 

Quote from: fansongecho on March 23, 2020, 07:29:51 PM
RE Q..  I am not sure what to believe, I do see some elements of his / hers / its posts that seem to come true but I see other posts that seem to me at least to be pure nonsense - I did hear off another alt-media show/site that Pres Trump will be evacuated into AF-1 before the end of the week to eliminate a deep state attack on him.

That sounds like one of those half truths: someone may know that Trump is going to move to another location this week and adds the "to eliminate a deep state attack on him". When people see that he does move then they will accept the rest as true.

Quote from: fansongecho on March 23, 2020, 07:29:51 PM
I see Weinstein is in isolation after contracting Covid  ;D

I saw a post on Twitter that stated the Tom Hanks and his bint of the image of them in "isolation" at a Aussie hospital, it was found to be false, the picture has been cropped now and removed from the internet but the grey steel door they were stood in front of had a US Military asset bar-code, I will try and find the YT video that explained this AND other celebrity / satanic / child abuse stories.

RE Q..  I am not sure what to believe, I do see some elements of his / hers / its posts that seem to come true but I see other posts that seem to me at least to be pure nonsense - I did hear off another alt-media show/site that Pres Trump will be evacuated into AF-1 before the end of the week to eliminate a deep state attack on him.

IF there is a White Hat operation to drain the deep state (I hope so) then I would expect the Clintons to be top of a list of celebrities/politicians that either die unexpectedly are arrested or contract the virus.

I do believe there is a global Deep State and Shadow Governments much like the Hydra from Marvel World, if The 45 can make some headway into eliminating them and making the world a better place for all then more power to him.

Cheers,

Fans'

This is YT and ties in a lot of conspiracy stories re Child abuse, Satanic worship, Adrenochrome and celebrities in isolation (Hanks and his bint) well worth a watch I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTP4bZgMmp4

Fans you deserve some gold for that post.  That video is something else.  So what if the Storm that Trump has spoke is what we are currently witnessing.  The pandemic plus the rats running for the exits.

So if it is true that the virus was contaminated in Wuhan with the andrenochrome, the true rats will be getting very sick shortly.

Thanks Micjer, very kind mate, I came across the YT yesterday, but it rolled up a lot of theories about the Pedo's at Hollywood, the so-called elites in Washington, the Whuhan "synthetic" adrenachrome (made from animals the bastards in China torture) and why a lot of celebs/sports figures, politicians and elites are self-isolating, also did you see the number of Senior execs have resigned since Oct 2019?and into 2020 -

  https://www.businessinsider.com/biggest-ceo-departures-wework-juul-ebay-warner-bros-metlife-2019-10?r=US&IR=T

https://www.businessinsider.com/bob-iger-keith-block-ceos-that-stepped-down-in-2020?r=US&IR=T

I know ArMaP doesn't buy into my theory that Billy-boy Gates is a population reductionist BUT I really hope that he and his wife do get rolled up if it is proven they are part of some global cabal that wants to reduce population on earth to below a billion with their vaccine led culture -

And I do not buy on any level that Event 201 -

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/about

That it was a coincidence for what has happened these last 4 months.


One list of celebs with Corona Virus -
https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/famous-people-celebrities-with-coronavirus.html

anyhoo, we live in unprecedented times, let's see what the next few weeks bring Micjer, hopefully good.  :)

Cheers!

Fans'  :)

http://www.3bsc.com/index/pro_info.php?id=91723  - synthetic adrenochrome from where ??

https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/sigma/a5752?lang=en&region=GB cost of adrenochrome

Quote from: micjer on March 23, 2020, 12:21:54 PM
And talking about Pizzagate seems odd since it looks like it was a hoax.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

While I will confess to having read a number of their articles on Roman history recently; I would very seriously caution you against taking Wikipedia's word on literally anything.  Especially regarding anything which is a potential threat to the Establishment, as Pizzagate was.

Quote from: petrus4 on March 23, 2020, 09:30:53 PM
While I will confess to having read a number of their articles on Roman history recently; I would very seriously caution you against taking Wikipedia's word on literally anything.  Especially regarding anything which is a potential threat to the Establishment, as Pizzagate was.

You know after doing more investigating I should take that post down.  I said it because Alex Jones had made a statement saying it was.  Then Seeker pointed out that AJ was co-intelpro so may be trying to lead us away.  So now I have to say it is looking like there is something definately there.

Thanks for pointing that out.

It is interesting on Google now when you type in a search request in some of these areas, the amount of information and pictures that pop up.  Perhaps the veil is lifting.

Quote from: micjer on March 23, 2020, 09:43:24 PM
It is interesting on Google now when you type in a search request in some of these areas, the amount of information and pictures that pop up.  Perhaps the veil is lifting.

You know that Google controls the results as they like, right?

Yes.


@Fans....remember in the video you posted, Ellen D showed the playing cards?

She shows 3 cards and each time she says it s the 4 of hearts. 

Did you know the meaning of it in cartomacy?

Description : Four of hearts

The four of hearts brings bad news. In cartomancy, its symbolism is used to warn the consultant about an upcoming danger. Its negative dimension refers to the world of feelings and emotions.

This card relates to short-term situations and indicates a betrayal that is about to happen. Depending on the reading, this betrayal can be more detailed and the consultant can learn if it will come from a friend, a lover, a partner or a family member.

The four of hearts can also indicate a form of lateness in a project that has recently started. It is an unexpected situation that can have negative consequences on the consultant's life. In every case, the four of hearts symbolizes a possible danger and a prejudice as its direct result.


http://latin.cards/cartomancy/four-hearts.html


I have always liked Ellen but if she is involved, she does look scared in the video.  She and other Hollywood stars that seem to be implicated in Satanism sure do bad mouth Trump.    more to ponder

@micjer, thanks for the link and clarification on her card "trick"..  I hear from child psychologists friends of mine that pedophiles will often use the argument that its not them who are to blame, its the child's parents/guardian for NOT being stringent enough with their monitoring of the relationship between the child and themselves, I also understand that Satanists use the same line of reasoning and that they will flag and signal their intention(s) and it is on the rest of US to decipher their signals

(Ole Dammegard did a really good breakdown of False Flags and satanic operations but I can't find the YT at the moment, I will put on here if and when I find micjer)

Did you see Madonna's homemade video from the weekend mate?..  worth having a look at what she is raving about in it, specifically her language which if you check against an FBI database for child abuse "slang" is eye-opening - as X-22 has said on his YT channel the Hollyweird elite are starting to show signs of strain and I expect that we will see more of them producing weird self videos with signals to their other Satanists brothers and sisters.

I really do believe that there will be a slew of deaths due to "coronavirus" from the Hollyweird elites - ala Mcain and Bush Seniors deaths as forecast by Q.   :)

Did you hear or know if Jim Carrey is also linked with the Satanists & pedophile elite in Hollyweird?..  I came across something today but have not had time to do any research on this.

Cheers,

Fans'

PS Talking about Mccain and Bush seniors death, do you have any info on what was on the notes that various elites got during the funeral - Jeb Bush was a picture of surprise and fear -

EDIT** - Bless this guy, he was suicided I am sure, has info on how UK Jimmy Saville was protected at the BBC and had Royal links. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=126&v=w42xrPAG08I&feature=emb_logo

Madonna  yes she reminded me of a drug user that can't get any more drugs in rant.

@Jim Carey.... I saw a video where he was at one of those canabalistic parties where they were eating cake that looked like a body.  so yes I would say he is in with them.

The people in Hollywood that I am seeing involved are all the loudest to condemn Trump

Meryl Streep
Robert De Niro
Ellen D
Whoopi Goldberg
Tom Hanks
Oprah Winfrey
Winona Ryder
Lady Gaga
list goes on and on

As far as those envelopes....had to be something shocking by the looks on their faces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmHwJbS_ku8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zjjwYcKas


Did you notice her sweater says Run Forest.....

:o

Is this the one?


She says the coronavirus is the great equalizer and we are all going down together.   I think she is referring to all of the rats myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMZPgWp4GyI

Quote from: fansongecho on March 24, 2020, 05:06:43 PM
@micjer, thanks for the link and clarification on her card "trick"..  I hear from child psychologists friends of mine that pedophiles will often use the argument that its not them who are to blame, its the child's parents/guardian for NOT being stringent enough with their monitoring of the relationship between the child and themselves, I also understand that Satanists use the same line of reasoning and that they will flag and signal their intention(s) and it is on the rest of US to decipher their signals

That's the typical behaviour of someone that thinks they are better than the rest and other people are always to blame, it's not limited to paedophiles and, as you say, Satanists.

QuoteDid you see Madonna's homemade video from the weekend mate?..  worth having a look at what she is raving about in it, specifically her language which if you check against an FBI database for child abuse "slang" is eye-opening - as X-22 has said on his YT channel the Hollyweird elite are starting to show signs of strain and I expect that we will see more of them producing weird self videos with signals to their other Satanists brothers and sisters.

Is there really an FBI database for child abuse "slang"? ???

Quote from: micjer on March 24, 2020, 06:01:33 PM
The people in Hollywood that I am seeing involved are all the loudest to condemn Trump

Meryl Streep
Robert De Niro
Ellen D
Whoopi Goldberg
Tom Hanks
Oprah Winfrey
Winona Ryder
Lady Gaga

The fact that they are the loudest to condemn Trump is most like the reason you are seeing them involved. :)

Quote from: micjer on March 24, 2020, 06:01:33 PM
Madonna  yes she reminded me of a drug user that can't get any more drugs in rant.

Micjer the reason why I can't condemn anyone in Hollywood, is because I went to Nimbin and took psychedelics for four and a half years.  The only reason why I wasn't sexually promiscuous during that period as well, is because I wouldn't have been able to forgive myself afterwards.  I truthfully really enjoyed taking mushrooms and acid; but I had to come back because the guilt got to a point where I couldn't take it any more.

Exept for a single relationship in my 20s, and some occasional porn use the rest of the time, I've been completely celibate for my entire life.  My father and youngest brother are serial adulterers, and I have an uncle who is a convicted paedophile.  Sex is one of the most destructive things in existence, as far as I am concerned.  My vices are coffee, marijuana, computer gaming, and steak.

None of us are innocent in the current time.  The main reason why I love sleep, is because I know that true, dreamless unconsciousness, is the only state in which I really can be innocent.  I have always believed that the less I do, the less I can potentially be punished for.

Thanks for sharing and you are right none of us are innocent at the current time.

Quote from: micjer on March 23, 2020, 12:21:54 PM


But on the other side, saying JFK jr is still alive and going to resurface is a stretch indeed.

I stand by my earlier comment that this seems like a stretch.....However I found this to be quite odd :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiJbRBJeTY

Adrenochrome...

Adrenochrome is the chemical that your body produces before adrenaline allowing your body to react right with adrenaline. High levels are found in kids, which are preyed upon by the elites. Jeffery Epstein had an island where he would take the blood of children and there have been survivors of such deadly and horrifying sort of rituals do your research!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Su8drbqma4


So if the satanist are hooked on this drug, and have been using it and happen to have used the contaminated synthetic type form Wuhan, it is no wonder so many of them are getting sick.

Coronavirus: Britain's Prince Charles tests positive for COVID-19

https://globalnews.ca/news/6729010/coronavirus-prince-charles/


Ever watch the Movie Monsters Inc.  Guess what it is about.  Scaring little kids to harvest their fear!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhuu-dwiuxU

The symbol (chemical) for adrenochrome is on the front of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTP4bZgMmp4&feature=emb_logo



Sure looks like a rabbit. 

They keep saying follow the white rabbit.......



Anybody seen Biden's interviews lately?   He is not well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH29zA2X610

Quote from: micjer on March 25, 2020, 02:17:26 PM
Adrenochrome is the chemical that your body produces before adrenaline allowing your body to react right with adrenaline.

Are you sure?

Hi ArMap,

RE Pedophile symbols - https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols

Cheers,

Fans'

Just found this - unreal - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_and_pederast_advocacy_organizations

Also watched Degeneres and MADonna videos again, and man are they melting down, it "seems" the Q messages are to expect widespread arrests of the Hollyweird elites in April. Also found this YT channel today. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcDYvHhgayc&t=642s

Some of the Twitter snapshot messages are beyond unbelievable I so hope that they do roll these scumbags up soon.  >:(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenochrome

SNIP"

Oxidation process of adrenaline in freshly isolated rat cardiomyocytes: formation of adrenochrome, quinoproteins, and GSH adduct.
[Vera Marisa Costa, Renata Silva, Luísa Maria Ferreira, Paula Sério Branco, Félix Carvalho, Maria Lourdes Bastos, Rui Albuquerque Carvalho, Márcia Carvalho, Fernando Remião]


PMID 17630707
Abstract
High concentrations of circulating biogenic catecholamines often exist during the course of several cardiovascular disorders. Additionally, coronary dysfunctions are prominent and frequently related to the ischemic and reperfusion phenomenon (I/R) in the heart, which leads to the release of large amounts of catecholamines, namely adrenaline, and to a sustained generation of reactive oxygen species (ROS). Thus, this work aimed to study the toxicity of adrenaline either alone or in the presence of a system capable of generating ROS [xanthine with xanthine oxidase (X/XO)], in freshly isolated, calcium tolerant cardiomyocytes from adult rats. Studies were performed for 3 h, and cardiomyocyte viability, ATP level, lipid peroxidation, protein carbonylation content, and glutathione status were evaluated, in addition to the formation of adrenaline's oxidation products and quinoproteins. Intracellular GSH levels were time-dependently depleted with no GSSG formation when cardiomyocytes were exposed to adrenaline or to adrenaline with X/XO. Meanwhile, a time-dependent increase in the rate of formation of adrenochrome and quinoproteins was observed. Additionally, as a new outcome, 5-(glutathion- S-yl)adrenaline, an adrenaline adduct of glutathione, was identified and quantified. Noteworthy is the fact that the exposure to adrenaline alone promotes a higher rate of formation of quinoproteins and glutathione adduct, while adrenochrome formation is favored where ROS production is stimulated. This study shows that the redox status of the surrounding environment greatly influences adrenaline's oxidation pathway, which may trigger cellular changes responsible for cardiotoxicity.
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Original Article @ https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/papers/16487923

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0074774208600252

@ Above link SNIP"

The Effect of Adrenochrome and Adrenolutin On the Behavior of Animals and the Psychology of Man
Author links open overlay panelA.Hoffer

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https://doi.org/10.1016/S0074-7742(08)60025-2Get rights and content

Publisher Summary
This chapter describes the activity of adrenochrome and some of its derived compounds. The effect of adrenochrome is considered first upon simple systems, then more complex systems, then simple animals, and finally, upon the most complex animal, the man. animals that are given adrenochrome range from spiders, fish, and pigeons to the mammals including rats, cats, dogs, monkeys, and man. The chapter gives much original data on cats and man.

Chemically, adrenochrome and adrenolutin are very reactive substances. Some of the changes produced by adrenochrome may persist several days, and in some cases, the effects lead to nearly disastrous results. Two cases of prolonged reactions are discussed in the chapter.

There is also a discussion regarding the reaction that lasted more than one day after a single administration of adrenolutin as well as reactions up to one week. The changes in thinking induced by adrenochrome are similar to those observed in schizophrenia. Adrenochrome causes an elective inhibition of the process, which determines the content of associative thinking. This occurs in doses that do not heighten the lability of basic processes, do not reduce excitation, and do not loose temporary connections as is the case with LSD.
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Quote from: micjer on March 25, 2020, 01:50:41 PM
Thanks for sharing and you are right none of us are innocent at the current time.

Speak for yourself

Thanks, fansongecho. :)

Those symbols look, to me, more like a way paedophiles made people look for things that do not exist or are not related to them than anything else.

As for adrenochrome, it looks like the information you posted says what I thought was true, that adrenochrome is a byproduct of adrenaline, not something the body creates to be able to create adrenaline.

Thanks ArMap for clarifying the above.  My bad, I had done a copy and paste and didn't double check it.

That's why it is good to have you here to keep us in line.  Fact checker so to speak.

It seems there are only a few of us here that seem interested in this thread, however I would like to point out the number of views we have created.  There is something to this whole phenomena.  Whether POTUS is involved will be determined, but people are waking up to what is going on behind the curtain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivRKfwmgrHY

@Fans, that video is disturbing indeed.

You just can't make this stuff up and I can't believe that they would post that kind of stuff in plain sight.

It shows their thinking that we peeps are too blind to see.

Those people are so two faced.  One side they look like such great people, yet on the other they are so evil.  If Oprah is innocent she really should be careful who she hangs with for example.


Did you notice Ellen sitting on couch with her legs up over the back?

Did you realize she was making the HANGED MAN symbol from the tarot cards?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanged_Man_(Tarot_card)

Quote from: micjer on March 26, 2020, 12:25:05 PM
You just can't make this stuff up and I can't believe that they would post that kind of stuff in plain sight.

In some cases you can make this stuff up. I only watched the first two minutes or so of that video, but what I saw was mostly things that were not confirmed, either rumours or things without context.

@ArMaP, no probs  :)

@micjer, no buddy I didn't realize that pose was known as that  :o  - also going back to fact-checking and the like on here, I totally agree it is really good that there are members who are very good at logical and critical thinking, as long as we can all continue to put forth our belief's and correction/determinations with a degree of kindness and civility we can avoid any "FLAME-ON" messages to each other and make for an excellent collaborative process when we research.

RE MADonna and the other elites melting down, great, keep you ridiculous self-serving poor me, poor me YT coming I get the impression that folks are really tuning into the facts that Hollyweird is a cesspit and its about to coming tumbling down around their arrogant and perverted ears.

Cheers all, stay safe  :)

Fans'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanged_Man_(Tarot_card))

Says it is the twelth TRUMP card.  Now that is funny.

Rising exclusive: Joe Biden accuser Tara Reade speaks out

March 26 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmVUQ7ii3_4

The twenty first century's two most effective methods, of disposing of one's enemies.

Have it implied that said enemies have ever remotely in their lives, had any association with either rape or child pornography.

Quote from: petrus4 on March 28, 2020, 09:13:21 AM
The twenty first century's two most effective methods, of disposing of one's enemies.

Have it implied that said enemies have ever remotely in their lives, had any association with either rape or child pornography.

Accusing people of being homosexuals didn't work any more, they had to find something else.

Go to Vimeo and watch a free documentary called " An Open Secret" I cant post the link due to privacy rights.

Harrowing -  >:(

F.

Quote from: fansongecho on March 28, 2020, 01:19:32 PM
Go to Vimeo and watch a free documentary called " An Open Secret" I cant post the link due to privacy rights.

Privacy rights? ???
More likely copyright rights, as they say on the "share" option that the author limited the sharing of the video.

Here's the link to the Vimeo page.
https://vimeo.com//142444429

(If you cannot beat them, fool them ;))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZiHlvE-cTM&t=924s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNWHEFlgMok

I am not sure how many are buying this whole Q thing, but I would like to point something.


Assuming it is for real, it will go down as truly amazing.  If not it will be the biggest conspiracy theory bust on record.


Assuming it is for real, the information that is "leaking" out to the masses would not ever have gotten there any other way.  The MSM would not have printed the information, and the element of surprise would have been wasted.

The way I see it there are 3 parts to this.

First you have an white house insider (Q) leaking information in the form of symbols and clues.

Second you have POTUS verifying the clues,

Thirdly you have someone like the guy putting the above videos together assembling all of the clues together to make it make sense.  Who is that guy btw.  We never see his face, just hear his voice.




Anyways we will know in the next 2 weeks if this is all smoke or not because according to this information, the Hospital ships Comfort and Mercy, are being put in to docks in NY and LA.

The last time Comfort was used, was when it was off of Haiti, and transported 400 individuals to Guantamano Bay Cuba. hmmmmm

Quote from: micjer on March 30, 2020, 02:52:36 PM
Anyways we will know in the next 2 weeks if this is all smoke or not because according to this information, the Hospital ships Comfort and Mercy, are being put in to docks in NY and LA.

You don't have to wait.

USNS Comfort Arrives in NYC Monday to Help Hospital With Non-Coronavirus Patients (https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/usns-comfort-arrives-in-nyc-monday-to-help-hospital-with-non-coronavirus-patients/2350317/)

Thanks ArMap  :)

@micjer, yes I am watching X-22 reports some of the items he discusses I totally buy into but there are some reasoning elements I can't get my head around with the logical links he makes, could be I don't have the capacity but I am watching his reports with renewed interest buddy. Do you follow the preying medic posts on YT and his deconstruction of the Q posts??

Cheers,
F

Interesting to me that the hospital ships are for non-coronavirus patients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJs6NmjQX-Y


yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEMKnQMFluA


While reporting real news gets Trish Regan fired from Fox Business Channel the Fake News is allowed to flourish freely as always

Here is a little more wood to throw on the fire.....

Have you ever heard of Saint Malachy?

The Prophecy of the Popes (Latin: Prophetia Sancti Malachiae Archiepiscopi, de Summis Pontificibus) is a series of112 short, cryptic phrases in Latin which purport to predict the Roman Catholic popes (along with a few antipopes), beginning with Pope Celestine II. It was first published by Benedictine monk Arnold Wion in 1595. Wion attributes the prophecy to Saint Malachy, a 12th-century Archbishop of Armagh, Ireland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes


An Irish saint's eerie prophecy that Pope Francis will be the last Pontiff

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/st-malachy-prophecy-pope-fran

The prophecies of the Irish Saint Malachy, the 12th-century bishop of Armagh, have thrilled and dismayed readers for centuries. He has stated there would be only one more pope after Benedict, and during his reign comes the end of the world. So Francis could be the last.

This video is from a couple years back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfKcz8wt8HM&autoplay=1

@micjer, I followed the Art Bell and Malachi Martin interviews from way back, before he was killed he talked and published books on the Catholic takeover by the dark forces of evil and if you do research into symbolism within the Vatican it takes you down yet another rabbit hole -

I guess you will have heard these before but it might be worth another listen, the books that Malachi wrote also stirred up a hornet's nest of those in the church who of course wanted to discredit him.  :(

Its well documented that the Catholic Church has paid out millions to those families of the abused over the last 60-70 years, I don't doubt at all that ALL of the Popes have known about the widespread abuse and cover up's.

F'  :(

The Art Bell and Father Malachi interviews - quite long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O8-t9M7xDc&list=PL1skqvNpox0gis2kjiEccd_ToYg8G2Rgu

Quote from: fansongecho on March 30, 2020, 10:25:49 PM
Its well documented that the Catholic Church has paid out millions to those families of the abused over the last 60-70 years, I don't doubt at all that ALL of the Popes have known about the widespread abuse and cover up's.

I doubt it, in the same way I doubt the president of the United States knows what some US diplomat in a foreign land does. Hierarchy is used to keep things separated, and that's what happens with the Catholic Church.

Going to respectfully disagree with you on this one ArMaP - The Pope was ordained in 1966 and has worked his way up the hierarchy for 54 years, I am positive that anyone who exists in an organization for that long has visibility of the dark side of sexual abuse that is occurring over a 50-year time frame.

From the below Wiki page -

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Sexual abuse
See also: Catholic Church sexual abuse cases
Pope Francis has admitted that the Church "arrived late" in dealing with sexual abuse cases.[523] During his papacy, a number of abuse survivors have expressed disappointment in Francis's response to sex abuse in the Church[524] while others have praised him for his actions.[525]

In 2015, Francis was criticized for supporting Chilean bishop Juan Barros, who was accused of covering up sex crimes committed against minors.[526] In 2018, Francis acknowledged he had made "grave errors" in judgment about Barros, apologized to the victims and launched a Vatican investigation that resulted in the resignation of Barros and two other Chilean bishops.[527]

In August 2018, Pope Francis apologized for abuses by clergy in the United States and Ireland.[528][364]

Former papal nuncio Carlo Maria Viganò released an 11-page letter in August 2018 in which he claimed that Pope Benedict XVI had been aware of sexual misconduct allegations against former D.C. archbishop Cardinal Theodore McCarrick and had imposed restrictions on his activities which were then lifted by Francis.[529] Viganò called on Francis to resign as an example for other bishops. Francis acknowledged that he had read Viganò's letter but said that he did not plan to comment on it publicly.[530] It was quickly noted that late in Benedict's papacy, during the time period that Viganò alleged McCarrick was subject to restrictions on his ministry, McCarrick travelled and made multiple public appearances.[531][532] although it was once noted that he seemed to be avoiding the media.[532] However, a 2014 news report described McCarrick's activities as increasing heavily after Francis became pope.[533] As to Vigano's letter, Jason Horowitz, home bureau chief of the NY Times, writes that: "Its unsubstantiated allegations and personal attacks amounted to an extraordinary public declaration of war against Francis' papacy" designed by conservatives to embarrass him at the sensitive time as he began his visitation to Ireland,[534] After being asked to come forward by Viganò, Cardinal Marc Ouellet said that Benedict had imposed informal sanctions on McCarrick but denied that Francis had lifted them.[535]

Pope Francis has come under scrutiny in the case of Father Julio Grassi, a priest convicted of child sexual abuse. As Cardinal, Bergoglio commissioned a study that concluded Grassi was innocent, that his victims were lying and that the case against him never should have gone to trial. Despite the study, the Supreme Court of Argentina upheld the conviction. Grassi has been restricted from exercising any public ministry but has not been laicized.[536]

Following the new sexual abuse allegations, Francis' popularity dropped significantly in the United States. In September 2018, only 48% of Americans had a favorable view of Francis.[537] According to a report published in Der Spiegel in September 2018, "Pope Francis promised when he took office a renewed, cosmopolitan Catholicism. Five-and-a-half years and many abuse cases later, the Universal Church is divided as never before."[538]

Recently nuns have accused clerics of sexual abuse in Italy, the Vatican, France, India, Latin America and Africa. Lucette Scaraffia, a feminist intellectual and the editor in chief of Women Church World, a Vatican magazine, noted that there were nuns having abortions or giving birth to children of clerics.[539][540] In February 2019, Pope Francis acknowledged publicly for the first time that the church has suffered an issue of priests and bishops sexually abusing nuns. Francis had convened a Vatican sexual abuse summit of all the presidents of the world's conferences of Catholic bishops on clergy sexual abuse in Rome 21–24 February 2019.[541] As a follow-up to that summit, on 9 May 2019 Francis promulgated the motu proprio Vos estis lux mundi which specified responsibilities, including reporting directly to the Holy See on bishops and on one's superior, while simultaneously involving another bishop in the archdiocese of the accused bishop.[542]"" Snip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis#Sexual_abuse

I was wrong about the values it is not millions.. its billions in compensation.  >:(

From the Wikipage underneath -

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The responses of the Catholic Church to the sex abuse cases can be viewed on three levels: the diocesan level, the episcopal conference level, and the Vatican. Responses to the scandal proceeded at levels in parallel, with the higher levels becoming progressively more involved as the gravity of the problem became more apparent. For the most part, responding to allegations of sexual abuse in a diocese was left to the jurisdiction of the local bishop or archbishop. According to Thomas Plante, a psychologist specializing in abuse counseling and considered an expert on clerical abuse, "unlike most large organizations that maintain a variety of middle management positions, the organizational structure of the Catholic Church is a fairly flat structure. Therefore, prior to the Church clergy abuse crisis in 2002, each bishop decided for himself how to manage these cases and the allegations of child sexual abuse by priests. Some have handled these matters very poorly (as evidenced in Boston) while others have handled these issues very well."[49]

After the number of allegations exploded following the Boston Globe's series of articles, the breadth and depth of the scandals became apparent in dioceses across the United States. The U.S. bishops felt compelled to formulate a coordinated response at the episcopal conference level. Although the Vatican did not respond immediately to the series of articles published by the Boston Globe in 2002, it has been reported that Vatican officials were, in fact, monitoring the situation in the U.S. closely.[244]

John L. Allen, Jr., senior correspondent for the National Catholic Reporter, characterized the reaction of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) as calling for "swift, sure and final punishment for priests who are guilty of this kind of misconduct."[244] In contrast to this, Allen characterized the Vatican's primary concern as wanting to make sure "that everyone's rights are respected, including the rights of accused clergy" and wanting to affirm that it is not acceptable to "remedy the injustice of sexual abuse with the injustice of railroading priests who may or may not be guilty."[244]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

Cheers,

Fans'

Just to let you know I am agnostic and not a Catholic Church hater - here are some details about the Church Of England and their terrible contribution to this horror story.

https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2018/06/c-of-es-industrial-scale-whitewash-of-sexual-abuse-exposed

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The Church of England could face a multimillion-pound bill after its ruling body voted in favour of compensating survivors of sexual abuse.

In a debate on the church's response to recommendations made by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (IICSA), the General Synod was told by the bishop of Huddersfield, Jonathan Gibbs, that words of apology must be followed by "concrete actions".

Gibbs, who takes over as the C of E's lead bishop on safeguarding issues at the end of February, said the move to pay compensation had major implications. "It will mean money, serious money – and we will need to work out how we're going to fund that," he said.

But the response to sexual abuse should be guided by "the righteousness and compassion of God's kingdom, and not by the short-term and short-sighted financial and reputational interests of the church," Gibbs said.

The chair of the finance committee, John Spence, said funds would be found for compensation payments. "This is not about affordability, it is about justice. Justice cannot have a different value depending on the finances of this or that diocese. Whatever we are told is required ... for redress, then those funds will be found," he said.

During the debate at Church House in Westminster, London, an abuse survivor in the public gallery unveiled a banner that read: "Church Commissioners: Lambeth Palace Library – £23.5m plus fittings, fees and VAT. Reparations for victims of church abuse – £0.00."

It referred to the costs of a new library at the official London residence of the archbishop of Canterbury.

The archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, reaffirmed earlier apologies to survivors for abuse carried out by clergy and the church's role in covering it up. He said he was deeply committed to implementing the IICSA's recommendations when the inquiry publishes its report.

As well as financial compensation, redress would include support for survivors and an approach to safeguarding that sought to "see things through their eyes", said Gibbs.

As well as thousands of historic cases of abuse, there was a 50% rise in concerns and allegations about abuse between 2015 and 2017, according to the most recent church figures.

Incidents relating to the abuse of children and vulnerable adults, including some allegations of serious criminal offences, increased to 3,287 in 2017, compared with 2,195 in 2015. They concerned both current and past events, with 12% of concerns and allegations relating to clergy. Others against whom concerns and allegations were made included church wardens, employees, volunteers, congregation members and people with church connections.

The synod also agreed to set a target for net zero carbon emissions by the C of E by 2030, 15 years before the original proposal, after members called for swifter action to tackle the climate crisis. "Let's really lead for once ... there's nothing more important than this," said Martin Gainsborough, who tabled an amendment to change the target date.
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From this Wiki page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_Communion_sexual_abuse_cases#Church_of_England

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Church of England
There have been many cases of sex abuse in the Church of England.

In the 1970s concern was raised over Jeremy Dowling, a lay preacher and employee of the Anglican Church in the Diocese of Truro, and a member of the general synod from 1977. Dowling was accused of sex abuse at specified schools and of sadistic behaviour. Maurice Key, was bishop of Truro at the time and until 1990; Michael Ball succeeded Key.[7]

In 1993 Peter Ball, who had co-founded a monastic community called the Community of the Glorious Ascension with his brother Michael Ball in 1960, was the suffragan Bishop of Lewes in the Diocese of Chichester from 1977 to 1992, and the diocesan Bishop of Gloucester from 1992 to 1993,[8] resigned after admitting to an act of gross indecency with a 19-year-old former novice at the monastery, and accepting a formal police caution for it.[8][9] Ball continued to serve in churches after that.[10] During Peter Ball's trial in 2015, it emerged that in 1993 Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) lawyers had determined at that that "sufficient admissible, substantial and reliable evidence" existed that Ball had committed indecent assault and gross indecency.[10] However, the Director of Public Prosecutions, Barbara Mills, had decided not to prosecute Ball, as a member of the royal family, a lord chief justice, JPs, cabinet ministers and public school headmasters—"many dozens" of people—had campaigned to support him at that time.[8][11]

In 2007 Peter Halliday, a choirmaster in Guildford in Surrey, who had told the church that he had abused children in the 1990s but was allowed to continue working with children, was convicted of three counts of sexual abuse of children, and police were concerned that there had been many more cases.[12]

In light of this event and the public airing of the church's bad handling of Halliday, as well as two other high-profile sexual abuse convictions, the House of Bishops decided in May 2007 to ask the Central Safeguarding Liaison Group to hold a review of past cases throughout the Church of England, which was carried out starting in 2008.[13]:9,12[14] The Diocese of Chichester and the Sussex Police also began investigating long-standing allegations of sexual abuse in East Sussex.[14][15] The Chichester diocesan past review cases report was commissioned in 2009 and run by Roger Meekings.[14][16]

In 2008, Colin Pritchard, a vicar in Bexhill-on-Sea was convicted of sexually abusing two boys; The Guardian described it as the "breakthrough case" for dealing with sexual abuse in the Chichester diocese.[14] Roy Cotton, a priest in the Chichester diocese died in 2006 but allegations of abuse by him emerged shortly thereafter.[14] In 2018, Pritchard, who by then changed his name to Ifor Whittaker, was convicted of further sexual abuse that he had carried out in collaboration with Cotton.[17]

In 2010 the Church of England past cases review was published.[13]:9,12[18]

In 2011 the Diocese of Chichester asked Elizabeth Butler‐Sloss to conduct an independent review of the way the Pritchard and Cotton cases were handled by the Chichester diocese.[14] In December 2011 the Archbishop of Canterbury opened an official inquiry (an archiepiscopal visitation) of the Chichester diocese due to the severity of the sexual abuse problem there; the last time such an inquiry had been established was in the 1890s.[19]

The Meekings Chichester past cases review report was made public in February 2012 and the next day, the Church of England issued a rare public apology in response to the report's damning description of the way the Church handled Cotton and Pritchard and failed to protect and care for people abused by them.[16][20]

In March 2012 two retired Chichester vicars, Gordon Rideout and Robert Coles, were arrested based on information from the past cases review and the Butler-Sloss report.[21]

In May 2012 the review and historic files about Peter Ball were given to the Sussex Police.[8][10] Ball and another priest, Vickery House, were arrested in November 2012[22] and Ball was put on trial in 2014.[8]

The Butler-Sloss report on the handling of Cotton and Pritchard published in December 2012[14][23] and was severely criticized when it was released.[24]

In 2014 the UK government set up an Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse to investigate how the government had handled allegations of sexual abuse and Butler‐Sloss was appointed to lead it.[25] Objections were raised to her participation.[26] The final straw came when Phil Johnson, who by that time was a member of the National Safeguarding Panel for the Church, and who had been abused by Cotton and Pritchard and had given testimony to Butler‐Sloss during her 2011 inquiry, made it public that he had told Butler‐Sloss about abuse by Peter Ball, and that she had chosen to omit that in her report.[24][26] The inquiry was disbanded and re-established the next year, and in November 2015 the panel said it would be include the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church in its investigations.[27]

In July 2015 Dowling was convicted of child sex abuse and sent to prison.[28] Several bishops failed to take action over Dowling possibly because there was not an earlier prosecution.[7] A few days later the Bishop of Durham said at a church synod that the 2003 abolition of defrocking may have been a mistake; it had been abolished over concerns about wrongful convictions.[29]

In October 2015 Ball was sentenced to 32 months' imprisonment for sexual abuse after admitting the abuse of 18 young men over a period of 15 years from 1977 to 1992.[30][11][31][32] Further charges of indecently assaulting two boys, aged 13 and 15, were allowed to lie on file in a contentious decision by the CPS.[33] Vickery House, was also convicted in October 2015 and was sentenced to serve 6½ years in prison for sex assaults against men and a boy. House worked in the same diocese as Ball. House and Ball collaborated in abusing three victims. If Ball had not pleaded guilty both men would have been tried together.[34] There was a long delay between the first complaints to the police over House and a proper police investigation.[35]

The Anglican Diocese of Portsmouth had a number of sexual abuse convictions in the 1980s and 1990s.[36] Timothy Bavin was the bishop between 1985 and 1996 and during this time a number of serious safeguarding issues took place. For example, Bishop Bavin did not report Father Terry Knight to the police when parents raised their concerns to him in 1985.[36] Father Knight was allowed to carry on in his position until he was later convicted for sexually abusing boys in 1996 and again in 2016.[37] Bishop Bavin had also allowed a convicted paedophile priest, Father Michael Gover, to carry on working for the church on his release in 1990. Father Gover was convicted in 1985 at around the same time as parents raised their concerns about Father Knight.[38] Bishop Timothy Bavin stood down in 1995 whilst Father Terry Knight's police investigation and court case was taking place.[39]

In March 2016, the "first independent review commissioned by the Church of England into its handling of a sex abuse case" issued a 21-page report by Ian Elliott, a safeguarding expert. The Church published only its conclusions and recommendations and "acknowledged the report was 'embarrassing and uncomfortable' reading". The review centered on the case of "Joe" – described in the report as survivor "B". In July 2014, Joe had "reported the abuse to the church's safeguarding officers". He sued the church in October 2015. The church paid £35,000 in compensation and called the abuse is "a matter of deep shame and regret".[40][41]

The review criticised the office of Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury. It said that Welby's office failed "to respond meaningfully to repeated efforts by the survivor throughout 2015 to bring his case to the church leader's attention". Speaking on behalf of the Church, Sarah Mullally, bishop of Crediton, said that Welby has made "a personal commitment to seeing all the recommendations implemented quickly". The eleven recommendations included (1) training clergy (especially those in senior positions) to keep records and take action for those who report abuse and (2) the church should insure that "pastoral care of survivors takes precedence over protection of reputation or financial considerations". Bishop Mullally "is drawing up an action plan to implement the report's proposals, covering education and training, communication and structural change".[42][43]
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The reason I am so focused on this horrific crime and really do want to see justice brought to the poor victims of this horrific abuse is I dated two ladies (5 years apart) who had been subjected to sexual abuse, one by their father and one by her brothers x 2 -

It wasn't until we had become closer in our relationships that both ladies told me their stories, as you can imagine I wanted to visit these scumbags and exact revenge and as you can imagine both ladies were vehement that this wasn't the thing to do, this was in the 80's and I was in the military I had buddies who would have helped me with my actions, no questions asked, but without addresses there was nothing I could do, neither lady would go to the Police with me and I asked a police friend of mine if there was anything I could do without my girlfriend full agreement and he stated that it was next to impossible without physical evidence and a statement -
This was never going to happen and the thing that I found so troubling was both ladies believed deep down that they had helped to cause it to happen, both were under 10 when the abuse started.

They were both open and happy on the outside but severly damaged (understandbly) on the inside, both really needed ongoing support and therapy and both would not go and seek help (back then going to a therapist in the UK held a lot of stigma)

Needless to say both relationships failed and no matter what I tried to do to support them during our dating nothing I could say or do helped, and ended both relationships with masses of guilt on my part.

I sincerely hope they both did get therapy but I suspect not - they were both so damaged, neither wanted children or to get married, I don't know if their reactions to abuse are common in girls who are abused but I suspect it might be.

Anyway enough of my droning on.

Take care out there.

Fans'

Quote from: fansongecho on March 31, 2020, 03:47:38 AM
Going to respectfully disagree with you on this one ArMaP - The Pope was ordained in 1966 and has worked his way up the hierarchy for 54 years, I am positive that anyone who exists in an organization for that long has visibility of the dark side of sexual abuse that is occurring over a 50-year time frame.

I don't understand why someone should know all the dirty secrets of other people on the same organisation, specially when we're talking about such a large and compartmentalised organisation.

For example, I work for the same company for almost 30 years and only three years ago did I heard about a sexual harassment case involving two of the people I know best in the company.

@ArMaP, as I say, I have my views on this and cannot explain/argue your point above, although I do respect your viewpoint.

It is one of the subjects that will always cause a lot of division I think.

Cheers bud,

Fans'

Question:
Do you think the sexual 'problems' in the Catholic Church are more or less than other large conglomerates?

And is it because of the 'religious' nature of the the organization?
Just curious...

Hi Sgt,

I have no empirical evidence to support my reasoning but I think that the pedophile horror comes down to the individual's psychology first and foremost, much like I have said in the past you won't change a pedophile's inclinations anymore than you can try and change a pedophiles color of their eyes with therapy - it cannot be done - unless through physical or chemical surgery -

I think that pedophiles use various institutions to get access to their prey and overtime these institutions have become willing vehicles to allow pedophiles to practice their evil ways.

I strongly believe that any established organization has an element within that is focused on the covert support of pedophilia -

The UK Operation Yewtree set up to catch pedophiles had limited success finding and punishing UK celebrities (see below wiki page for more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yewtree

and Operation Ore had more success but also had problems trying to convict some of the alleged perps -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ore

UK News articles at the time stated that the pedophiles came from a broad range of backgrounds, professionals like Doctors, Nurses, Judges, Lawyers, Policemen, Fireman, Teachers, Clergymen as well as non-skilled shop owners, farmers etc -

I have a friend who was part of the serious crimes and sexual exploitation part of the UK Police on a national level and he has said on a number of occasions that the UK public would not believe how massive the pedophile problem is, when they set stings up in chat rooms with false children as bait, the amount of men AND women who try to target and groom the false kid is in the hundreds. He said that the Police and judiciary would need another 20,000 staff JUST to serve the cases that they could raise IF they had the manpower, to prosecute the cases.

Colleagues of his have gone off long term sick or left the Police because of the horrors of the cases they are/have investigated and brought to prosecution, he left after 4 years and is in counseling now.

I have said many times that the reason the pedophiles get lenient to no sentence is due to the endemic corruption at the higher levels of the system/establishment -

So I think what I am trying to say Sgt is the pedophiles want to be as close to children as possible, where and how can they do this?... and specifically anywhere that children will naturally trust figures of authority.

I really do believe all faiths have this challenge within, even if they won't advertise the fact. 

Cheers,

Fans'  :(

So the Catholic Church as an organization, is no less and no more than other large corporations?

The problem as I see it is the coverup portion of it.

Hoping it goes away by moving clergy around, is what I think is the church's main problem

Quote from: fansongecho on March 31, 2020, 09:07:09 PM
@ArMaP, as I say, I have my views on this and cannot explain/argue your point above, although I do respect your viewpoint.

Thanks. :)
The respect is mutual.

QuoteIt is one of the subjects that will always cause a lot of division I think.

Naturally.

Quote from: fansongecho on March 31, 2020, 11:04:12 PM
I have a friend who was part of the serious crimes and sexual exploitation part of the UK Police on a national level and he has said on a number of occasions that the UK public would not believe how massive the pedophile problem is, when they set stings up in chat rooms with false children as bait, the amount of men AND women who try to target and groom the false kid is in the hundreds. He said that the Police and judiciary would need another 20,000 staff JUST to serve the cases that they could raise IF they had the manpower, to prosecute the cases.

That's one thing most people ignore when they think about paedophiles, paedophilia is not limited to men.

Christianity's time as a central social power is over.  Church populations have been declining since the 1990s, across all denominations.  The Pentecostal churches have been holding out a bit better than the older Protestants.

Yes, I think Francis probably will be the last Pope, and I've thought that for a while.  In PR terms, what the Vatican most urgently needs right now is a soft landing; or as soft as possible, given the amount of paedophilia and child abuse scandals over the last 30 years.  Francis' image is that of a congenial old man who gives comfortingly agnostic and liberal answers to publically asked questions, and can also be spoken with by his congregation via telephone.  He is the polar opposite of Ratzinger, at least in public.  Ratzinger was a mistake; Francis isn't.

He is the first Pope in a very long time, who has been elected partly because the Vatican needs to at least pretend to care about what its' flock in the current time wants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw9N96E-aQ&feature=youtu.be

Quote from: micjer on April 02, 2020, 01:13:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw9N96E-aQ&feature=youtu.be

A little description of what the video is about would help.
Some people think this is a waste of time, others eat this stuff up...

Just a heads up would be helpful...J/S..
;)

Good point forgot to put a title on it. 

It just gives a background to what this Q stuff (BS or Gold still trying to decide) is all about.

If it is BS it sure has won over a lot of voters to the POTUS.

The biggest thing I have taken out of all this is the information that has come to light about evilness in this world.   Whether Trump is the savior for us time will tell


If he isn't we are facked

Quote from: micjer on April 02, 2020, 01:13:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw9N96E-aQ&feature=youtu.be

An interesting piece of propaganda with no real facts, like all propaganda.

Interesting from a sociological point of view. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ZlgJWihuk&t=570s


The [CB] pushing a global recession is losing the battle, the US is on a different track, this track is to expose the [CB]. Trump is doing everything in his power to help the people through this transition. Trump has now set the entire thing in motion, he is in charge of the Fed, Powell needs to ask permission from Trump now.

What's a [CB]? ???

Quote from: ArMaP on April 03, 2020, 12:21:42 AM
An interesting piece of propaganda with no real facts, like all propaganda.

Agreed.  I have become almost completely cynical towards the "mass arrests," meme.

The single main reason why I don't believe that it is ever going to happen, is because of the insatiable human craving for monolithic, centralised authority, and the accompanying attitude of infantile, totally uncritical trust of said authority, regardless of how malevolent or psychopathic it may be in reality.  Humanity uncompromisingly and continually demands its' Fuhrer.

I see that on Reddit on a literally moment to moment basis.  As long as a given statement is attributed to a "scientist," or an "expert," then there is virtually nothing, no matter how ridiculous, that people will not believe.

The other thing to understand about the "mass arrests," idea, is that it is still perpetuating infantilism and the abdication of individual responsibility, which is the entire source of the problem.  Whenever you see someone talking about the psychopaths all supposedly being thrown in jail, the unspoken implication is that there is a group of saviours and "white knights" who are going to do it all for us.  Then will come NASARA, the redistribution of wealth, and again, all we supposedly have to do is just sit back and let it happen.

It is exactly the attitude of letting other people govern our lives, which has got us into the current situation in the first place.  As long as we continue to allow other people to do that, then it really doesn't matter who they are; blatant psychopaths, or "white knights," or angels, or extraterrestrials.  The result will ultimately be the same.

CB. Is Central Banks

Quote from: petrus4 on April 11, 2020, 01:44:01 AM
Humanity uncompromisingly and continually demands its' Fuhrer.

That's because it's easier to have someone saying what you should do.
That way you don't have to think about it and you can point someone else as the reason for your problems.

Here in Portugal (specially where I live, Almada) we have what we call, in direct translation, "colectivities", groups of people that make a private association for some (usually) social or cultural purpose, like practising sports, theatre, music, dance, etc. They are the same as cooperatives, but while cooperatives have an economic purpose these associations have other purposes.
I have known of several cases of people wanting to be president of an association like that (even small ones, with just a couple of hundreds of members) changing their mind when they see how much work something like that has behind the scenes.
So people just accept whatever is thrown at them and keep living their lives.

QuoteThe other thing to understand about the "mass arrests," idea, is that it is still perpetuating infantilism and the abdication of individual responsibility, which is the entire source of the problem.  Whenever you see someone talking about the psychopaths all supposedly being thrown in jail, the unspoken implication is that there is a group of saviours and "white knights" who are going to do it all for us.  Then will come NASARA, the redistribution of wealth, and again, all we supposedly have to do is just sit back and let it happen.

Exactly, people prefer to wait for someone that does the work than acting for themselves, even if that implies living in worse conditions than they could.

I saw that when the Portuguese dictatorship was ended on 25 April 1974, with many people complaining about the change to democracy by using something like "things weren't that bad if, like me, you didn't go against them". As long as people get their bread and circus games they are happy.

QuoteIt is exactly the attitude of letting other people govern our lives, which has got us into the current situation in the first place.  As long as we continue to allow other people to do that, then it really doesn't matter who they are; blatant psychopaths, or "white knights," or angels, or extraterrestrials.  The result will ultimately be the same.

Quoted for truth.  :)

Quote from: micjer on April 11, 2020, 02:30:44 AM
CB. Is Central Banks

Thanks. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY8Nfzcn1qQ&feature=emb_logo


The Out Of The Shadows documentary lifts the mask on how the mainstream media & Hollywood manipulate & control the masses by spreading propaganda throughout their content. Our goal is to wake up the general public by shedding light on how we all have been lied to & brainwashed by a hidden enemy with a sinister agenda.

I find it funny when people say something like: "they are all very evil, but I'm smarter and I will tell you the truth".

Why should I trust them more than I trust the others? Just because they say they are on the "right side"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU5x1kLBwCE

Very interesting.

Hopefully this goes somewhere.

Notice how the MSM is not picking up on this story.  Should be headline news imho.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1262962/pg1

There seems to be a lot of interest in this topic on the spooks forum.

27 parts and many posts and reads.

Quote from: micjer on April 29, 2020, 02:51:55 PM
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1262962/pg1

There seems to be a lot of interest in this topic on the spooks forum.

27 parts and many posts and reads.

I find it boring. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on April 29, 2020, 04:44:07 PM
I find it boring. :)

I just wish Millennials would stop being so stupid.  I just found more inexplicable hype about Elon Musk on Reddit, and spent the next ten minutes or so trying in vain to discover why people seem to think he is so amazing.  Apparently he has founded several companies, (a few of which haven't done much) gone broke a few times, and talked in interviews about ideas like the Hyperloop.

I wish it was as easy for me to get famous.  Maybe I need to practice lying into a microphone and making it sound exciting.  The really does seem to be all Elon does.

EDIT:-  Also, Seeker, if you believe that Q is not completely full of shit as I do, I'd appreciate it if you'd be willing to share some evidence of that.  I've never seen anything from him that actually had verifiable consequences.

You folks have followed this Q thing longer than I have, and looking back at old posts it does seem to be the same deal.  Keep laying clues on posts but nothing really comes of it.

Until the time that people are actually arrested and the swamp is cleaned out, it will remain nothing but a cult.

The action of a cult leader is to give enough information to keep followers obeying, and not question the leadership, but never give all of the information.

Cult....


Cults often use behavior modification on followers, such as thought- stopping techniques and instilling an "us-versus-them" mindset, Hassan said. With thought-stopping techniques, members are taught to stop doubts from entering their consciousness about the cult, often with a key phrase they repeat.




Does the phrase WWG1WGA  ring a bell.  That is their catch phrase.



And for those not following along it stands for


             WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL

Quote from: ArMaP on April 29, 2020, 04:44:07 PM
I find it boring. :)

And that is fine.

Here is something you might find interesting that I found in the Q material today.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1545C_dJWMIAgqeLEsfo2U8Kq5WprDuARXrJl6N1aDjY/preview


Sequential CQ / HCQ Research Papers and Reports
January to April 20, 2020


Executive Summary Interpretation of the Data In This Report


The HCQ-AZ combination, when started immediately after diagnosis, appears to be a safe and efficient treatment for COVID-19, with a mortality rate of 0.5%, in elderly patients. It avoids worsening and clears virus persistence and contagious infectivity in most cases.

Here are two developments that Q have been hinting towards.

Biden's sexual assault allegations hitting MSM also.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-addresses-sexual-assault-allegations


Biden also said that he would refuse to allow a search of his senatorial papers at the University of Delaware for records pertaining to Tara Reade, which are not public.

"The material in the University of Delaware has no personnel files ... but it does have a lot of confidential conversations," with other officials, like the president, Biden said.

When he was pushed to approve a search for just Reade's name rather than a full search of the records, Biden responded with silence for several moments before asking, "Who does that search?"



and
James Comey outed on MSM

https://www.foxnews.com/media/sessions-felt-comey-fbi-could-not-continue

Great interview and on Fox News!

Quote from: micjer on May 01, 2020, 02:07:12 PM
Here are two developments that Q have been hinting towards.

My problem (no problem, really, as I mostly ignore him/she/it) with Q is that what are posted is just that, "hints", like anyone else could do.

If he/she/it posted something nobody is really talking about and presented verifiable facts to support it I would believe him/her/it.

I do see your point.

I wonder does it have something to do with the human psyche?

What  I mean is that there are tons of videos and websites ( have been for years) that have talked and harped about these issues and very little interest in listening.  Only a few tin foil hat folks.  Were considered all conspiracy theorists.

But do it with clues and breadcrumbs, and it seems to get peoples attention.  I cannot believe the amount of Americans that are following this and have opened their eyes to the other websites and videos that have been around for years.

I am on a forum that is not what I would consider to be a conspiracy type site.  I would estimate that 50 percent of the posts in the political part of the forum are talking about things we have discussed for 10 years with links.   This is just changed in the last couple of months,  Things like Hillary, Biden, Vaccines, Gates, CCP etc.  Common place   .


As long as the information is getting spread around I am not concerned how it is done.

Quote from: micjer on May 01, 2020, 04:06:49 PM
I wonder does it have something to do with the human psyche?

I'm sure it does.

QuoteWhat  I mean is that there are tons of videos and websites ( have been for years) that have talked and harped about these issues and very little interest in listening.  Only a few tin foil hat folks.  Were considered all conspiracy theorists.

But do it with clues and breadcrumbs, and it seems to get peoples attention.  I cannot believe the amount of Americans that are following this and have opened their eyes to the other websites and videos that have been around for years.

People like to discover things, so if you put "breadcrumbs" for people to appear to find things for themselves they think they are very smart for having found that out.

Movies and TV series do that all the time, with little clues that make some person look suspicious, so when something happens (like a crime) the people watching remember that suspicious person some minutes before and when they reach the end of the movie they feel very smart for having found out the culprit.

QuoteI am on a forum that is not what I would consider to be a conspiracy type site.  I would estimate that 50 percent of the posts in the political part of the forum are talking about things we have discussed for 10 years with links.   This is just changed in the last couple of months,  Things like Hillary, Biden, Vaccines, Gates, CCP etc.  Common place   .

When things reach a certain point they become like a fashion, so everybody wants to be part of it, just not to feel an outsider.

QuoteAs long as the information is getting spread around I am not concerned how it is done.

Only if the information is true, the problem is that the way this is done we don't know if it's true or false, but people are accepting it as true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRCmuhCvxzc


According to FoxNews finally some of the information being talked about by Q is being released to the public.


Ok this video has been taken down already.

Trying this link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpceA7V0DIo

So fast forward this Q anon thing............


Whole lot of smoke and zero fire!

Trump was in a position to do a lot of things but it was  all a huge bust in my opinion. 

I think it was a psyop to give us false hope that Trump would be reelected, the country would be saved and justice would be served.


None of those things have come to pass. Consequently, the country is in deep shit because people decided to cheat a dementia patient into office.


We are now the laughingstock of the planet.


Even aliens no longer say, "Take me to your leader."

Quote from: Irene on June 26, 2021, 06:36:58 PM
We are now the laughingstock of the planet.

The US, politically, has been the laughingstock of the planet for several years.

QuoteEven aliens no longer say, "Take me to your leader."

That's a good one.  ;D

PS: nice to "see" you again. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on June 26, 2021, 08:31:39 PM
The US, politically, has been the laughingstock of the planet for several years.
That's a good one.  ;D

PS: nice to "see" you again. :)

Depressing.

I am convinced it was a cult


And an orchestrated hoax