Over the last two days, I've heard reports about Donald Trump referring to Marines who fought during World War One as losers and suckers. This has apparently, and predictably, done enormous damage to the President's level of electoral support among the American military.
I wanted to ask, how do the members of this forum feel towards Trump at this point? Apparently he has also been trying to undermine the American postal service in order to prevent remote voting, and has also twice asked his supporters to vote more than once, which is a felony in many states.
My own view of Trump used to be largely neutral; neither for, nor against. Yet recently, as a result of learning about not only his apparently anti-democratic actions, but also his constant self-humiliation on Twitter, my opinion has gradually become less favourable. I had heard a lot of talk online about him possibly attempting a coup in November; and as a result, his comments about the military have caused a sense of relief, because the fact that he has now presumably alienated them, means that he no longer would have the support of the one group whose help he would really need, to make a coup attempt successful.
I don't know much about Joe Biden. Aside from presenting himself as a family man, (which the Lincoln Project has been helping him with) his election campaign seems to be mainly focused on responding to Trump's misdeeds, rather than talking about his own policies. I will also admit that putting emphasis on family doesn't impress me; partly because of my own experience with my immediate family, but partly also because I am aware that that is an image which virtually any psychopath with political ambitions attempts to cultivate.
Although I don't live in America, based on what I've been seeing on YouTube, if I was an American voter, I think the one thing I'd want to see from Biden, would be an action plan for fixing the country's domestic civil infrastructure; the highway network, ports, and bridges, among other things. Most of that was apparently built just after the Second World War, and it largely hasn't been maintained since, because later Presidents have put most of the budget into the military.
I think the country is in deep trouble at this point, though; and although he hasn't made any really convincing noises about being able to, I hope to an extent Biden is able to fix it.
Petrus, I do not believe that Trump said that. However, even if all the media said about him was true, he is still a better
choice than Biden and the democrats. I am voting for Trump.
Quote from: petrus4 on September 05, 2020, 10:53:20 PM
I wanted to ask, how do the members of this forum feel towards Trump at this point?
The same I did when he first ran for president: he is a narcissistic man that is less intelligent than he thinks and, because of that, is a good candidate to keep things as they have been and, probably, as projected by those that really rule the US.
QuoteApparently he has also been trying to undermine the American postal service in order to prevent remote voting, and has also twice asked his supporters to vote more than once, which is a felony in many states.
Apparently, but maybe the postal service is one of those things that need revampimg.
QuoteI had heard a lot of talk online about him possibly attempting a coup in November; and as a result, his comments about the military have caused a sense of relief, because the fact that he has now presumably alienated them, means that he no longer would have the support of the one group whose help he would really need, to make a coup attempt successful.
Like those comments that said that Obama was going to declare martial law to stop the election? Those are getting predictable. :)
QuoteI don't know much about Joe Biden.
To me he looks like the perfect candidate to lose the election, and that's why he was chosen.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 06, 2020, 01:39:23 AM
To me he looks like the perfect candidate to lose the election, and that's why he was chosen.
I fear that America is going to become a genuine war zone if that happens. We've already had a taste of it in Portland and Kenosha. Burn Loot Murder vs. the urban migration of the Rust Belt.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Redneckrampage.jpg)
FIGHT!!! ;)
As my good friend, Zorgon told me once, it's not so much Pro Trump, he was anti Demoncrats as he put them, but I call them DemoRATS.
QuoteOver the last two days, I've heard reports about Donald Trump referring to Marines who fought during World War One as losers and suckers. This has apparently, and predictably, done enormous damage to the President's level of electoral support among the American military.
When have you ever heard a good report from lamestream media about Trump? Every time he opens his mouth they twist his words or make up things so I just see it as another smear campaign among the many hundreds that came before. It's definitely confirmed hearsay. ::) I can see him Calling McCain names as McCain tried hard to sink Trumps presidency. Whether you like Trump or not, no one else is standing up to run except "Schmuck A" or "Moron B". Is there not one qualified individual with common sense they can find among millions to run as the president?
Quote from: ArMaP on September 06, 2020, 01:39:23 AM
The same I did when he first ran for president: he is a narcissistic man that is less intelligent than he thinks and, because of that, is a good candidate to keep things as they have been and, probably, as projected by those that really rule the US.
Assuming that Trump is the desired candidate of the powers that be, Armap; can you explain why the "losers and suckers," comments about the military have been promoted to repeatedly by the mainstream media?
I can understand the people behind the curtain potentially being unable to prevent that leak, but why would they want to promote it? Those comments being attributed to Trump and so widely publicised, must have now almost completely destroyed his credibility with the military; and given that America is a country which reveres its' armed forces so highly, has likely done a lot of damage to his reputation even among civilians as well.
Jeffrey Goldberg Accused of Lifting Trump's "Losers" Quote From End of Godfather IIQuoteEditor-in-chief of The Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg has been accused of lifting President Trump's "losers" quote from the ending of the movie Godfather II.
Goldberg claimed, citing four anonymous sources, that Trump had referred to Americans who died in battle as "losers" and "suckers," but the veracity of this was challenged by numerous people, including former White House national security adviser John Bolton.
The Biden campaign has exploited the allegation to undermine Trump's support amongst veterans.
https://www.prisonplanet.com/jeffrey-goldberg-accused-of-lifting-trumps-losers-quote-from-end-of-godfather-ii.html (https://www.prisonplanet.com/jeffrey-goldberg-accused-of-lifting-trumps-losers-quote-from-end-of-godfather-ii.html)
Trump has repeatedly and rightfully called out the extremely biased news media as being "Fake News" and they never let a an opportunity pass to try to discredit, blame or twist anything Trump says or does. This has been the norm even BEFORE the election.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on September 09, 2020, 12:28:40 PM
Jeffrey Goldberg Accused of Lifting Trump's "Losers" Quote From End of Godfather IIhttps://www.prisonplanet.com/jeffrey-goldberg-accused-of-lifting-trumps-losers-quote-from-end-of-godfather-ii.html (https://www.prisonplanet.com/jeffrey-goldberg-accused-of-lifting-trumps-losers-quote-from-end-of-godfather-ii.html)
Trump has repeatedly and rightfully called out the extremely biased news media as being "Fake News" and they never let a an opportunity pass to try to discredit, blame or twist anything Trump says or does. This has been the norm even BEFORE the election.
if you think it's bad now in the states, wait till he WINS!...It will be a never-ending "anonymous" accusations from un-named sources merry-go-round.
I fear it will be much worse than that.
Quote from: petrus4 on September 09, 2020, 08:27:51 AM
Assuming that Trump is the desired candidate of the powers that be, Armap; can you explain why the "losers and suckers," comments about the military have been promoted to repeatedly by the mainstream media?
To increase the division of the American people.
It's easier to control a divide people, so if they divide them on all main fronts (politics, religion, race and military) they will have much less work doing what they want, as people will be too fixated on those (artificially augmented) problems to look at the real ones.
I never did, and that hasn't changed.
Quote from: ArMaP on September 09, 2020, 11:56:20 PM
people will be too fixated on those (artificially augmented) problems to look at the real ones.
Do you think this will continue to be effective indefinitely?
Quote from: petrus4 on September 10, 2020, 10:20:56 PM
Do you think this will continue to be effective indefinitely?
If well (from their point of view) played, almost.
But it has to be an interactive thing, they cannot just expect that everything goes according to plan, there's always the possibility of someone with charisma appearing and starting pointing to things and to make people think.
I have yet to see and hear a video anywhere that Trump said that about the military. He did say he hoped that the generals were with him. He supports the troops. I think what he did say was something that took and underhanded jab at generals retiring and joining defense contractors because of their ties to those contractors during the time generals were on active duty. Remember the Eisenhower speech about the military industrial complex? He made reference to that during a media briefing in a subtle way.
Quote from: spacemaverick on September 13, 2020, 12:07:06 PM
I have yet to see and hear a video anywhere that Trump said that about the military.
The US presidency is not (yet?) a reality show, so not everything is videoed.
4 year no terrorism. Well not one that worth msm.
no wars. not those we know were in line like iran, venezuela.
we living in a staged play.
Quote from: RUSSO on September 17, 2020, 08:05:35 AM
4 year no terrorism. Well not one that worth msm.
no wars. not those we know were in line like iran, venezuela.
we living in a staged play.
well i was willing to see a response. maybe if i had wrote that the world is more stable. and dont trow chirona1984 on me ok?
I'd rather vote for HIM, than any and I mean ANY DEMORAT..... 8)
Quote from: RUSSO on October 03, 2020, 07:35:16 AM
well i was willing to see a response. maybe if i had wrote that the world is more stable. and dont trow chirona1984 on me ok?
Four years no terrorism? What do you call the domestic terrorists that stood on the steps of the Michigan capitol?
I guess it's time for me to exit. This place used to have interesting discussions. Now it's just "good old boy" politics
Quote from: Shasta56 on October 10, 2020, 02:39:25 AM
Four years no terrorism? What do you call the domestic terrorists that stood on the steps of the Michigan capitol?
You mean this?
Coronavirus: Armed protesters enter Michigan statehouse
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52496514 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52496514)
I was talking about terrorism cells like isis, al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, the nasty ones... I was trying to point out that before trump those mass murders were way more active for I (and thats my opinion only) THINK some very especific reasons... Money, intel, and etc... kinda stop to flow to them.
I think what you are pointing on your post is about domestic "terrorism" as i consider blm and the "greens" arsonists and whoever do something to cause destabilization no matter which side it comes. Its all probably, because and only because your elections.
Its not the same thing.
Quote
I guess it's time for me to exit. This place used to have interesting discussions. Now it's just "good old boy" politics
Nah, its always the same thing in time of elections. I hate politics but we cant avoid it as it set how our futures will be. Like how fast globalism
will take over for example.
Quote from: RUSSO on October 10, 2020, 06:09:26 AM
I was talking about terrorism cells like isis, al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, the nasty ones... I was trying to point out that before trump those mass murders were way more active for I (and thats my opinion only) THINK some very especific reasons... Money, intel, and etc... kinda stop to flow to them.
Or their bosses told them that there was no need of terrorist attacks because they are now in power. ;)
Quote from: ArMaP on October 10, 2020, 03:39:33 PM
Or their bosses told them that there was no need of terrorist attacks because they are now in power. ;)
Yep, that could be it too.
The terrorist will be in control as soon as Biden is elected president.
Quote from: 08rubicon on October 10, 2020, 04:36:39 PM
The terrorist will be in control as soon as Biden is elected president.
Does that apply to the US or the whole world?
In my opinion, will be the entire world.
Quote from: Shasta56 on October 10, 2020, 02:39:25 AM
Four years no terrorism? What do you call the domestic terrorists that stood on the steps of the Michigan capitol?
I guess it's time for me to exit. This place used to have interesting discussions. Now it's just "good old boy" politics
It's a shame that that Michigan group were such overwhelming hard Right stereotypes. Still, I've seen a distressing number of Communist stereotypes on display around America as well over the last 12 months; what with the Capital Hill Autonomous Zone and such.
Also, Shasta, please don't go. I don't come here as frequently as I used to, but I still like to keep in touch with certain people.
Quote from: 08rubicon on October 10, 2020, 04:36:39 PM
The terrorist will be in control as soon as Biden is elected president.
The American government has not been subject to adult supervision for the majority of my lifetime. Given the number of opportunities they've therefore already had, if the terrorists aren't in control yet, then they probably never will be.
Quote from: 08rubicon on October 10, 2020, 10:19:17 PM
In my opinion, will be the entire world.
Could you explain to us why do you think that?
You'll have an elected official that is completely out of touch with society and for the most part his own thoughts anymore as he can't go 2 days without forgetting or contradicting himself. He's got this issue of petting and smelling little girls, he quickly gets riled and belligerent with those that disagree with him...what could possibly go wrong? Either way I look forward to the entertainment alone but that is all there is to look forward to with this clown. He's too old to sit and read multi-thousand page documents...so he'll simply ask what they are about and blindly sign them. How is it there is ONLY these 2 people to choose from? America has truly fell on it's ass.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on October 11, 2020, 06:59:18 PM
How is it there is ONLY these 2 people to choose from? America has truly fell on it's ass.
I have thought for many years that elections in the US are like rigged sports events, when before the match someone already decided what the result is going to be.
Biden Is soft on terrorist. He was during the Obama administration. He and Obama backed the terrorist when they were active. We can not depend on Biden to be a strong leader against
muslin countries or China.
Quote from: 08rubicon on October 11, 2020, 08:19:43 PM
Biden Is soft on terrorist. He was during the Obama administration. He and Obama backed the terrorist when they were active. We can not depend on Biden to be a strong leader against
muslin countries or China.
OK, thanks for your point of view. :)
Of the members that have actually responded to this topic.....How many are U.S. citizens?....just curious...(btw..I am).....(and if so....do you plan to vote?)
I am a u.s. citizen. And I voted early in person.
I'm not an US citizen, I'm Portuguese.
But if I was I would vote, I never missed an election in which I could vote. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCybWf1g9K8&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0kT1ctNZkRn9Cv6_Z2mu9VtuTF1Wuo57AYcaBnbIOEjL4AnVbSnPvurro
Maybe the reason/s for the obnoxious attacks on Your president may be about to become known?
kevin
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on October 12, 2020, 01:27:11 PM
Of the members that have actually responded to this topic.....How many are U.S. citizens?....just curious...(btw..I am).....(and if so....do you plan to vote?)
US Citizen, will be voting in person at the polls on the traditional voting day. My state is predominantly Democrat, so the state will likely go that way for the presidential election. Not how I'll vote though.
-Dan
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on October 12, 2020, 01:27:11 PM
Of the members that have actually responded to this topic.....How many are U.S. citizens?....just curious...(btw..I am).....(and if so....do you plan to vote?)
hey im from brazil
here is a song for YOU...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHGfIfNR58
Quote from: RUSSO on October 16, 2020, 06:24:00 AM
hey im from brazil
here is a song for YOU...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHGfIfNR58
bah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVJW0OPLhxk
Quote from: ArMaP on October 11, 2020, 07:18:30 PM
I have thought for many years that elections in the US are like rigged sports events, when before the match someone already decided what the result is going to be.
"Someone" in this case being David Rockefeller.
Quote from: ArMaP on October 12, 2020, 09:35:09 PM
I'm not an US citizen, I'm Portuguese.
But if I was I would vote, I never missed an election in which I could vote. :)
I became eligible to vote in Australia when I turned 18, in 1995. In the intervening years I have voted once. I exclusively view government as a special interest group for psychopaths, and I do not believe my vote will change that. Unintelligent criminals go to prison. Intelligent criminals go to parliament.
The only form of civic involvement which I regard as being even potentially effective, is one which I am now too old for, and involves the use of guns. As unspeakable as it may sound, on a purely visceral level at least, Kyle Rittenhouse has my sympathy. Although I have admittedly never acted on it, the embers of Patrick Henry's fire are not yet completely cold in me.
Quote from: petrus4 on October 16, 2020, 07:34:09 AM
I became eligible to vote in Australia when I turned 18, in 1995. In the intervening years I have voted once. I exclusively view government as a special interest group for psychopaths, and I do not believe my vote will change that. Unintelligent criminals go to prison. Intelligent criminals go to parliament.
The only form of civic involvement which I regard as being even potentially effective, is one which I am now too old for, and involves the use of guns. As unspeakable as it may sound, on a purely visceral level at least, Kyle Rittenhouse has my sympathy. Although I have admittedly never acted on it, the embers of Patrick Henry's fire are not yet completely cold in me.
hu hu you like globlalism? y or n? sick of this game
Quote from: RUSSO on October 16, 2020, 07:56:21 AM
hu hu you like globlalism? y or n? sick of this game
i will go to sleep, see you tomorrow?
Quote from: RUSSO on October 16, 2020, 08:00:00 AM
i will go to sleep, see you tomorrow?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJnX2DFP5M
Quote from: petrus4 on October 16, 2020, 07:34:09 AM
As unspeakable as it may sound, on a purely visceral level at least, Kyle Rittenhouse has my sympathy.
What's a Kyle Rittenhouse?
It's a WHO. Simple search will tell you.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on October 17, 2020, 12:15:48 AM
It's a WHO.
I thought that was the most likely situation.
QuoteSimple search will tell you.
I know that, obviously, but I think that when people drop a name they should provide more information about it when it's not a widely known person, and in this case it's a name I never heard before.