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UFO's and Aliens => UFO's and Aliens => Topic started by: karl 12 on May 05, 2021, 08:55:12 PM

Title: UFO Pilot Under-Reporting Bias.
Post by: karl 12 on May 05, 2021, 08:55:12 PM
Thought there was some revealing data found here (https://www.syracusenewtimes.com/how-many-people-actually-report-ufo-sightings-a-reality-check/) regarding a 'reality check' on just how many people actually report their UFO sightings (I know I didn't) and when it comes to military/civilian pilots there's always been serious concerns about under reporting bias due to fear of ridicule, perceived competence, job security etc.



Quote"Airlines don't like to employ people who see strange things"

Dr. Richard Haines, Ames NASA Research Center - Chief of the Space Human Factors Office.


After the Robertson panel led to the implementation of the JANAP 146 directive which basically made the reporting of UFOs to the American public an 'act of espionage' then suppose fines of up to ten thousand dollars (and/or one to ten years in prison) also deterred quite a few pilots from discussing their experience.

Over the years there's been some truly revealing UFO surveys and polls conducted on professionals in the aviation industry (including this (http://thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/2010/04/forgotten-piece-of-1959-research.html?m=1) one involving 1000 radar operators) but did think there was a really relevant report below concerning 'under reporting bias' from NARCAP's Ted Roe.



Report (PDF File):

QuoteAviation Safety in America: Under-Reporting Bias of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and Recommended Solutions.


(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/bt608ed912.jpg)


"We didn't say anything. We figured nobody would believe us."
Charter Pilot



"Upon return to my domicile, JFK, I reported our sighting to the proper authorities. I was shortly visited by two federal investigators who evidently thought I was hallucinating for one of them stated he had seen spaceships while fishing in Great South Bay and was quite obviously trying to prove that I was a loony."
Captain, Pan Am (ret.)



"It must have been Huge! We were all due back at JFK about the same time two days later so I waited in the crew ready room to talk to them. None of them wanted to talk! They were afraid management would take them off of flying status and have them tested for booze and drugs. The story never came out!"
Flight Engineer, TWA (ret.)



"a group of lights in the air appeared at our 12o'clock position. I called departure control and asked them if they had any traffic in that area. When they came back and said NO, what do you see, I said no, just checking. For at that time when a pilot reported seeing a UFO he was in a lot of trouble."
Captain, Ozark Airlines (ret.)



"I, and Flight crew saw something (in broad daylight) that did things that no known aircraft could do without killing any living thing inside. I will only give sketchy details to protect the privacy of the rest of the crew. If you are interested, and all information (is) kept anonymous, contact me. I will not present myself for public ridicule."
Captain, NW (ret.)

Technical Report - PDF File (https://www.narcap.org/s/narcap_TR-8_2002.pdf)


• Sticking with NARCAP also thought this (https://www.theparacast.com/podcast/april-5-2009-dr-richard-f-haines/) was a pretty awesome interview with Dr. Richard F. Haines.



Quote"You must remember that I was privy to the project files. These contained hundreds of official reports of UFO encounters made by military personnel from all branches of the service. They were all classified with a high degree of security classification. Almost all of these made pretty scary reading from the verbatim descriptions of the pilots concerned"

Albert M. Chop, Air Force UFO Public Information Officer at the Pentagon

List (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2785.0)



The Pentagon's Al Chop also pops up in the vid below but there's a good section on pilot UFO under-reporting featuring NICAP's Richard Hall and NARCAP's Richard Haines found around 10:30.



https://youtu.be/76Nhrk6YsTc

QuoteUFOs Reported By Airline Pilots - The Real Reason Why Pilots Don't Talk
Title: Re: UFO Pilot Under-Reporting Bias.
Post by: karl 12 on May 05, 2021, 08:57:58 PM
Thought another good example of the mindset discussed above can be found in this interview with pilot Graham Bethune - apparently the crew of a U.S. Navy C-54 aircraft witnessed a disc shaped UFO over the Atlantic Ocean and a Naval Commander on board refused to look at it because he 'didn't believe in such things'.


https://youtu.be/1ATddbIQM98


Quote'Whatever you do don't tell anybody thay we saw a flying saucer because they'll probably lock us up when we land.'




Guess we'll never know the true numbers on just how often pilots encounter UFOs but looks like witness intimidation could also be a factor and below are a few cases involving claims of 'do not to discuss (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10187.0)'.




• Three disc shaped objects confirmed on radar and witnessed close range by pilot flying Piper PA-24 aircraft.

https://youtu.be/GJxphK_mqWg

QuoteThis is a case where the witness reports that he has been repeatedly intimidated by unidentified people probably from a foreign country.

Thread (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3767.0)





• Three disc shaped objects confirmed on radar and witnessed close range by two RAF pilots in Meteor jet aircraft.

Upon landing both pilots separated, isolated and ordered not to discuss - debriefed next morning by plains clothes officer (records of official investigation now missing).

From 4:30

https://youtu.be/2v1NE6TSWCY

Continued:

https://youtu.be/uuyX2eBL7Qg





• Close range pilot UFO encounter where a yellow, oval shaped object flew just off the left wing of a Piper Arrow aircraft.

Pilot detained and interrogated for over three hours by five men in suits who tried to make him sign a document stating that he would never disclose details of his UFO sighting to the public.

See 59:10

https://youtu.be/BJI9PVTU9V0



Links:

Some great forwarding links in this first file:

• Pilot Sightings - (PDF File) (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://static.secure.website/wscfus/10348600/8340217/a-pilot-sightings.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjHwoGhy6jwAhVZ5eAKHRIoBdsQFjABegQIGxAC&usg=AOvVaw3smEWFgS-cW_GtimXwZFe8)
• The UFO Evidence - Section V - PILOTS & AVIATION EXPERTS (http://www.nicap.org/ufoe/section_5.htm)
• NARACAP Aircraft Survey Project (PDF File) (https://www.narcap.org/s/narcapsurvey.pdf)
• The 'True' Report on Flying Saucers. (http://www.seektress.com/truerep.htm)