HERO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdEVUum8Nag
HEROISM, have the courage to put your life in risk just by telling the truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es4AGX8Y_sw
Imagine how many good people got their lives ruined for telling the truth. Somebody really needs to go to jail for this.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 08, 2023, 04:58:28 AM
HEROISM, have the courage to put your life in risk just by telling the truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es4AGX8Y_sw
Imagine how many good people got their lives ruined for telling the truth. Somebody really needs to go to jail for this.
Hes a hundred times more believable than this new guy.
Very detailed and concise...not creepy like some weirdo grifter.
I first listened to the whole interview, then read the transcript, it sounds like a Philadelphia Experiment sort of scenario with the ship embedding into the ridge, like the sailors were on the Eldridge.
And this secret group, they may be another race of aliens, who are making sure the benevolent ones dont get a chance to come here and be peaceful, almost like the demons are the group and the angels are the other visitors...as he pointed out..they were like angels, and the group members exhibited a very aggressive behavior as if they were heavily invested in his discomfort but someone was not letting them take him for that helicopter ride.
NDE people often talk about angels or divine figures, is it possible he was unconscious and part of his experience was while he was out of it?
Was he possibly unconscious for a period of time, or even dead?
If this story is true, how does that bode for religions?
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 09, 2023, 01:54:29 AM
Hes a hundred times more believable than this new guy.
First things first. Who are you referring to?
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 03:48:39 PM
First things first. Who are you referring to?
Hey Russo🙂
Grush.
He reminds me of someone whos either just seeking fame, telling a story he heard repeated among others, or piggybacking off of something he saw in his military career.
His body language is ridiculous and exagerrated, he doesnt seem authentic to me at all.
He also may be repeating something that anyone could generate based on historical evidence....we find crashed ships(Roswell) we find dead pilots(same) we shot it down, its a saucer, all that which is commonplace in a story assembled from other elements of the bigger picture.
To me he is an actor, and his speech and mannerisms scream Fake.
Of course all of this is going according to plan for them, and the rest of us just like the ants running around seeking the sugar cube.
I also think we will be seeing a lot of copycat, AI, or tiktok garbage as we go into next year, further clouding true or false.
Just the way they intended.
Cheers
Le
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 03:48:39 PM
First things first. Who are you referring to?
Further on Grush to clarify, I do believe what hes saying is true as to the existence of alien biology and craft within our secret technology, I just think hes no more than a grifter, and was only involved if at all in some minor way, which would make me guess hes jealous of those who actually were a part of it because he was never fully informed, and has assembled a narrative he made from whatever he was able to glean from those around or above him.
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2023, 04:17:14 PM
Hey Russo🙂
QuoteGrush
QuoteHe reminds me of someone whos either just seeking fame, telling a story he heard repeated among others, or piggybacking off of something he saw in his military career.
Who?
QuoteHis body language is ridiculous and exagerrated, he doesnt seem authentic to me at all.
That's the worst thing someone can assume about other person.
QuoteHe also may be repeating something that anyone could generate based on historical evidence....we find crashed ships(Roswell) we find dead pilots(same) we shot it down, its a saucer, all that which is commonplace in a story assembled from other elements of the bigger picture.
You sounds like mike west. He literally show the videos and documents to the senators and they will do a hearing about it
QuoteTo me he is an actor, and his speech and mannerisms scream Fake.
He literally handed the locations, names and SAP programs names to US congress representatives. Why flllyterpratteruic guy didnt check in in?I forgot the name of the congresswoman they put in charge of it. Sorry.
QuoteOf course all of this is going according to plan for them, and the rest of us just like the ants running around seeking the sugar cube.
They want you believe in blue beans. They want you to not call your representatives. Them want you to mud the waters. They want it to go downstairs. I called my senator here in Brazil to ask wtfigon. Did you?
QuoteI also think we will be seeing a lot of copycat, AI, or tiktok garbage as we go into next year, further clouding true or false.
Is this our technology? You sure about that?
QuoteJust the way they intended.
Yeah "they" intended a lot of shit. May I suggest an audio for you?
If, and that's a big if. If you choose to listen below you are smart enough to find the rest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpUAmLH8ztQ
Quote
Cheers
Le
Cheers
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2023, 04:40:02 PM
Further on Grush to clarify, I do believe what hes saying is true as to the existence of alien biology and craft within our secret technology, I just think hes no more than a grifter, and was only involved if at all in some minor way, which would make me guess hes jealous of those who actually were a part of it because he was never fully informed, and has assembled a narrative he made from whatever he was able to glean from those around or above him.
Cheers!
Le
It is true.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 05:54:20 PM
It is true.
And so much people died along. You really dismissing the ruined lives this topic brought to them? 90 years my fellow human 90 years at least. >:(
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 06:20:35 PM
And so much people died along. You really dismissing the ruined lives this topic brought to them? 90 years my fellow human 90 years at least. >:(
And i know, people kill people for nothing. it's going on for centuries. Our civilisation kill. Without mercy. How many people vanish every year without any explanation?
I believe it to be true.😎
I am not convinced at all Grush is being honest.
And why hasnt his life been taken or destroyed?
Will it be because of this I wonder?
Only if hes truly sharing valid information of his involvement, otherwise he will just be labeled a conspiracy theorist and cast aside...if hes lucky.
I feel for the families of those who were
silenced through this millennia old scheme as well, those Weygandt speaks of are totally willing to do anything.
I get a feeling of authenticity from Weygandt.
Grushreminds me of a lot of grifters out there, anyone who watches him should see it, just a strong vibe I get from him and his mannerisms.
Of course I could be mistaken about him.
I did not say what he says isnt true, I said to me he does not seem very believable, you nor I know what he gave to anyone because we havent seen it, so neither of us can make claims as to his honesty or if he is working for nefarious characters.
He acts too flamboyant and exuberant to share such sensitive data and that is a red flag to me.
My point was whatever he was bringing to the table it may not be directly his to bring. Thats what defines a whistleblower in many cases, sharing info that is not theirs to share.
As for the technology I feel whats going on may be a mixture of on and off world, I said that clearly.
I can think of worse things than questionable body language to say about someone, like for instance,
That person is a pedophile...
That person is a murderer...
That person is ugly and hideous...
That person wears goofy shoes...
All worse then stating his body language makes me feel hesitant to trust him.
And although I cant remember how I came to listen to that previously, we all know the facts stated in that audio, they are well documented and obvious to anyone watching the show. Anyone who doesnt see it isnt paying attention.
The convenient parallel of Duncan's story to Grush's... who also claims to be on the inside as the whistleblower in the audio interview does, doesnt make his claims anymore valid, to me it still sounds like another element of the same grift hes currently operating under.
And again, I may be totally wrong here.
That group of men as he calls it in the audio are known as globalists or Bilderbergers or whatever controlling group we are speaking of at the time, theres more than a few...we see them.
Today its called the "Globalist" Agenda to soften the sound of it, well gosh anything Global would be great! Right Papaw? 😂
And in all common sense there is no data that we will get to see unless Grush releases it to someone other than a governmental entity which of course immediately means the media and government will deny.
And, in the case he is releasing info to governmental entities that he claims is true or valid, is the last thing that would convince me we are going to get the true story.
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 06:27:52 PM
And i know, people kill people for nothing. it's going on for centuries. Our civilisation kill. Without mercy. How many people vanish every year without any explanation?
I think you made a significant point there..no loss or suffering is good but to reward a good deed with harm or violence is just the thing people like this enjoy doing...true evil.
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2023, 06:31:03 PM
And why hasnt his life been taken or destroyed?
Maybe because he spill the beans? He was threatened.
QuoteI get a feeling of authenticity from Weygandt.
Where is he btw?
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2023, 06:37:28 PM
I think you made a significant point there..no loss or suffering is good but to reward a good deed with harm or violence is just the thing people like this enjoy doing...true evil.
I dont even think its for joy. I think its because orders. But then, there is people and people you know? See milgram experiment.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 06:39:00 PM
Maybe because he spill the beans? He was threatened.
Where is he btw?
The threat was real and his description of the bad guys was chilling.
I was looking for more on him after watching that interview and theres not a lot I found except some Redditors think hes a FedEx guy😏
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2023, 06:56:33 PM
The threat was real and his description of the bad guys was chilling.
some Redditors think hes a FedEx guy😏
come on ;D
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 07:00:11 PM
come on ;D
Well tbh it is Reddit lol
Id guess he learned after his discharge to lay as low as possible wherever he is.
I guess I am just curious to see who releases any disclosure if at all, and what the view will be like.
The Mexican guy on the recent Eyes on Cinema video described a craft exactly like Weygandt describes.
30 or so feet in length and 15 or so feet in width, silver, flat oval shaped with a hole in its side from being shot down.
Scurrying small beings not speaking but squealing like a rabbit, no ears, with grey skin and teardrop eyes, some injured, some not.
And of course the dead ground where nothing grows as the landing spot.
I believe they are here and have been for all of recorded history and then some.And I will be very hesitant to believe anything the government tells me regarding extraterrestrial life or UFO/UAPs... whatever they want to call them now, so if the story of anyone is nearly identical to that which the govt would try to convince us of, that too is a red flag until further notice.
I Appreciate the conversation here Russo, its been a long time since I enjoyed such a recourse here, I hope this all unfolds more quickly now as a result of all this new uncovered data, so we can finally get a view of what to expect for us and our family's future.
And if the story is true, I wont be too worried about who tells it, but Grush just rubs me wrong for some reason.
Cheers!
Le
Jose Padilla describes a very similar event as to Jonathan Weygandt's encounter in the "Trinity" UFO Crash in 1945...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLgZ0wc4aA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLgZ0wc4aA)
Is he credible? Thoughts?
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2023, 07:27:24 PM
Is he credible? Thoughts?
Le
IMO NO
He acts too flamboyant and exuberant to share such sensitive data and that is a red flag to me.
I did not say what he says isnt true, I said to me he does not seem very believable, you nor I know what he gave to anyone because we havent seen it, so neither of us can make claims as to his honesty or if he is working for nefarious characters.
Just kidding ;)
Im enjoying it too LE.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 08:04:30 PM
IMO NO
He acts too flamboyant and exuberant to share such sensitive data and that is a red flag to me.
I did not say what he says isnt true, I said to me he does not seem very believable, you nor I know what he gave to anyone because we havent seen it, so neither of us can make claims as to his honesty or if he is working for nefarious characters.
Just kidding ;)
Im enjoying it too LE.
Wow you are a fantastic writer, so concise and clear LOL hey hold on that sounds familiar!! ;D
I think its weird though how so many of them are describing this same craft that started to be talked about in 1945...and yes he is definitely the opposite of exuberant, almost falling asleep.
He does mention a couple things differently as the interview goes on, as if the cameraman is trying to get him to slip up.
He first says theyre slender with narrow shoulders but then says they looked like ants.
The burned spot is about 60x20 but he said the craft was 30x15, mustve been giving off some serious radiation, or spilled some fluid that sterilized the soil.
And he says they left the craft there for 8 days..thats definitely not the typical procedure Id expect.
Its going to get more muddier sooner than later.
Maybe I picked the wrong week to stop drinking and smoking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v46plhmxXU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v46plhmxXU4)
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2023, 08:37:50 PM
Wow you are a fantastic writer, so concise and clear LOL hey hold on that sounds familiar!! ;D
No, that was not original at all. As a matter of fact is sounded really fake. Just like people trying to digress hearings that will be coming soon. AND more insiders asswell. So no despair.
Quote from: Littleenki on June 13, 2023, 08:37:50 PM
Its going to get more muddier sooner than later.
Cheers!
Le
That's the whole fun of this matter. It will be on our faces sooner than later
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 09:27:45 PM
No, that was not original at all. As a matter of fact is sounded really fake. Just like people trying to digress hearings that will be coming soon. AND more insiders asswell. So no despair.
Opinions cannot be considered fake, whether they turn out wrong or right.😉
And this being a shot across the bow, those "more insiders" better watch over their shoulder because the bad guys will be gunning for them if any of this is true, and theyre as evil as theyre said to be.
I can say Im almost certain there is a black program like that, but like you said we will need more hearings, and the more governmental entities speak the more they lie, because to find any of this valid you have to trust that governmental entities are now telling us the truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but I dont take anything hook line and sinker, especially just a few weeks in.
As for Grusch...Maybe its Grusch's personality that just doesnt convince me he was a part of it as much as he wants us to believe, but like I said I fully believe there is a deep state black ops program regarding aliens and their interactions with us.
Its like he got wind this was all going to go down and he jumped the gun to remain relevant in the discussion.
I will have my William Optics refractor shooting in infrared out tonight, if there is an uproar in space of worried aliens or deep state copycat ships, Ill have a pretty good chance of seeing it😎
Le
Quote from: RUSSO on June 13, 2023, 09:35:44 PM
That's the whole fun of this matter. It will be on our faces sooner than later
If it gets us to the truth, Ill dive fully in mate!🙂
Havent seen this posted yet, I know some find Greer to be a grifter or seeking financial gain and personal fame, but we need to see all of these folks to have a full context if we are to decide who is worth listening to and who isnt.
My two cents has always been hes got some underlying motives, but does share some interesting takes and ideas along the way.
But then in this world, who can we really trust unless we see all the content and material they present.
I would be surprised if the mods and admins here havent watched this but we are trying to gain some attention for this forum and hear from more than the usual dozen members/admins/mods who make up the majority of posters or commenters here.
I wonder why it seems that of so many members listed on the left that we dont see hardly any new voices here, and when we do, they seem to post or comment a few times and then theyre gone.
Dont shoot the messenger🙂
https://www.youtube.com/live/zDY7t6HihCw?feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/live/zDY7t6HihCw?feature=share)
Cheers!
Le
Who would anyone trust with time machines?
That is what these craft are.
There is no gravity or time in universe.
There is a consequence called gravity and time.
Alter either and You alter tother.
Would You trust Your so called governments?
I sure would not.
You can go back and make happen that which has happened, but You can't alter it.
Going forward though is a different story.
Who would You trust with such?
Kevin
Quote from: Littleenki on June 14, 2023, 04:57:48 PM
I would be surprised if the mods and admins here havent watched this but we are trying to gain some attention for this forum and hear from more than the usual dozen members/admins/mods who make up the majority of posters or commenters here.
I wonder why it seems that of so many members listed on the left that we dont see hardly any new voices here, and when we do, they seem to post or comment a few times and then theyre gone.
Le
As I have stated on many occasions here, my fire has gone cold somewhat since my friend passed.
I'm 73 now and having experienced a lot here, and being infatuated with Lear and the rest of the hooligans that I have had the unfortunate opportunity to realize that they all suffer with the UFO-Disease.
I've learned that there is much, much more going on in this timeline and that those who are 'in the know' will keep it to themselves, unless they have used up all their resources and can only grasp at anything that gets them further down the line. i, e. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.
I have tried to keep this place alive, but I've got more important things going on right now, i.e. LIFE...or what's left of it.
So please forgive me if I don't get too excited about the latest UFO flap....I've seen it before..
I hear you Sarge, as I sit on the heating pad, lol, I guess my
point there was whats here already in archive alone is worth people's time if theyre looking or just surfing, let alone the opportunity to converse here without censorship or restrictions for the most part.
Maybe the new generation is just not interested.
Maybe an EMP would get them to look up from their tiktok?😅
I miss Zorgon as well, he had a way of taking things and making it fun to learn the ins and outs, like a father would for his kids.
And without a doubt, this place is his baby, so he would be glad to know we miss him and recognize that everytime we use this forum.
As for the UFO expose' fatigue youre talking about it reminds me of the daily promises by "Q" and all those who swore that the election would be reversed for this reason or that, yet never did.
Lets hope this time we can at least force them to play their hands, as long as their hand isnt worldwide famine and disease, economic ruin, and incessant shift towards Marxism packaged as progressive globalism..
oh wait, thats already happening.
I watched that Greer expo again today just now while working on the bench and also the Grusch interview beforehand again, and it all just seems too good to be true, and that it will just be tucked back into the corner after all is said and done.
I sincerely hope not, but like I told Russo, I will be very cautious in my personal assessments, and try to get a solid psychological vibe from the whistleblowers who come foreward, before deciding who is lying and who isnt.
Cheers
Le
Sgt.Rocknroll,
73Years young, so am I, big deal.
We have had a better time phase than present and what is planned, but it means I have no fear , what I do care about is those following us, are You lion or mouse?
Zorgon will be still with You, He set a great example IMHO.
Kevin
Le and the rest of you obviously don't go to links or you would have seen this
from
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11702.msg155990#msg155990
Re: INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN
« Reply #6 on: June 0
full interview with grush at 40M the original that was copied to all those other sources
and then i posted this comment with all the info you are questioning about him...i feel the source is as credible as others listed: did anyone read it ???? you may be surprised the info was here ages ago..no one looked...i give up digging :-X.. you guys are just going in circles
found this so far ya gotta go down past the bullshit pics for the article
but i want to know how he is supposed to be worth 2 mil ???
https://glamourbiz.com/trending/david-grusch-wikipedia-married
Quote from: kevin on June 14, 2023, 09:04:50 PM
Sgt.Rocknroll,
73Years young, so am I, big deal.
We have had a better time phase than present and what is planned, but it means I have no fear , what I do care about is those following us, are You lion or mouse?
Zorgon will be still with You, He set a great example IMHO.
Kevin
Yeah it is a big deal,,,,to me....I'm the last of my family, Father, Mother, Brothers and Sister, all gone.
Not in the best of health but still going.
The thing about Zorgon was he actually cared about me. Ask me to do somethings and he let me in on quite a lot....(I guess his friendship and trust is what I missed the most)...
Rock 8)
Quote from: space otter on June 14, 2023, 10:24:32 PM
Le and the rest of you obviously don't go to links or you would have seen this
from
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=11702.msg155990#msg155990
Re: INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN
« Reply #6 on: June 0
full interview with grush at 40M the original that was copied to all those other sources
and then i posted this comment with all the info you are questioning about him...i feel the source is as credible as others listed: did anyone read it ???? you may be surprised the info was here ages ago..no one looked...i give up digging :-X.. you guys are just going in circles
found this so far ya gotta go down past the bullshit pics for the article
but i want to know how he is supposed to be worth 2 mil ???
https://glamourbiz.com/trending/david-grusch-wikipedia-married
Oh I replied to that one lol maybe a bit smart arse but my thoughts at first was damn , that dude vibes like a Fed, and is too cheery and matter of fact...hint hint...and then over the next week Greer did his thing, and after doing some searching I found another similar story, the Trinity crash, and also saw Weygandts experience...so Im tempering my thoughts here and staying focused because I truly feel this is a slowly unfolding psyop.
Im going to deadhead my Spring Lillies now😎
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: kevin on June 14, 2023, 08:12:35 PM
Who would anyone trust with time machines?
That is what these craft are.
There is no gravity or time in universe.
There is a consequence called gravity and time.
Alter either and You alter tother.
Would You trust Your so called governments?
I sure would not.
You can go back and make happen that which has happened, but You can't alter it.
Going forward though is a different story.
Who would You trust with such?
Kevin
Going to go off on a slight tangent here, not to imply any of this is accurate or true, but just to get all these thoughts out of my cranium to see how they sound out loud...
A mirror is a time machine, because in it you can observe that which has unfolded or occurred. To see the future one would need to reverse the mirror and face it away, the observer would not be at the end point of the "Past" in the mirror, but at the point between the past and the future.
So a mirror is also a way of showing the observer to exist at a point where there is not time, only what Tolle calls the Now.
Using a mirror as we know them, one should not be able to see the future, unless they subscribe to the notion of a creator or universal sentience of some kind, because to move forward in time would mean to observe that which has not occurred yet, to actually see an intention or set of intentions presented to the observer by that sentience intent on creating the future.
This suggests that the observer is what is considered to be "God".
Their own creator.
A Non-Sentient universe would have no observable, or changeable, plan beyond its rigid unbending path of self replication and annihilation.
Do seeds work this way?
No.
They germinate based on features of their field proximity.
Sentience requires there to be an ability to adapt and manifest intention.
Seeds have memory, and the implementation of that memory within field differentials, is how the plant ends up having subtle differences from every other plant.
I would imagine the velocity any craft travels at would create a set of instabilities for the occupants or the craft itself based on these field differentials it travels through, and whatever time is may even be experienced differently by the occupants because as it travels, the future cannot be already decided before it arrives.
Just like a seed that is stuck into the soil, a craft is shoved into a place where it and it's occupants must adapt if they can, so we see crashes and unintended interactions such as the tic tac event.
Memory is a form of time travel.
Memory is merely the observation of a period within our consciousness, and to see the future requires one to be aware that the universe has no boundaries and is infinite, because a non infinite universe cannot provide the "space" for the consciousness of all the intentions of the sentience.
A bordered universe prohibits memory.
If we ever learn to look forward, we will realize we have become the sentience.
What Weygandt likely saw was a craft which had lost its ability to adapt to our field differentials here on Earth, and during these moments of duress, the military took advantage of what it could observe.
Maybe these craft are all crashing not primarily because theyve came to a place where they are seen as hostile, but because they happened upon a planet whose field differentials are unexpected as does a plane who flies into a tornado. And at that vulnerable moment, our military is able to attack what is now an observable object, the craft just crashes or takes on an emergency landing.
I think theres also a possibility that our black ops learning more about these craft and their systems, and now they are increasingly able to track and shoot them down.
If the Antarctic tracking base if really what the presenter in Greer's expo says, it suggests exactly that is what is occurring.
Cheers!
Le
Kozyrev mirror.
Spiral wound.
Time is flowing in all directions, I can detect and follow it.
I have viewed many times.
My vehicle doesn't go anywhere, go with the flow.
This planet is 55 over 34, implosion over outrush.
The planet is not moving, consciousness is flowing along the geometry of the matrix.
The seed is encoded and signals out for the attuned information.
Akin to a radio/receiver( TTB radio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xODjbfYw8
Kevin
Quote from: kevin on June 15, 2023, 08:07:16 PM
Kozyrev mirror.
Spiral wound.
Time is flowing in all directions, I can detect and follow it.
I have viewed many times.
My vehicle doesn't go anywhere, go with the flow.
This planet is 55 over 34, implosion over outrush.
The planet is not moving, consciousness is flowing along the geometry of the matrix.
The seed is encoded and signals out for the attuned information.
Akin to a radio/receiver( TTB radio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xODjbfYw8
Kevin
Precisely, and aluminum specifically was the best material he found, what is it about aluminum?
The experiences people had in there were akin to Reichs Orgone Accumulator to some degree.
Science passed the turn off centuries ago and never looked back it seems.
Le
Quote from: kevin on June 15, 2023, 08:07:16 PM
Kozyrev mirror.
Spiral wound.
Time is flowing in all directions, I can detect and follow it.
I have viewed many times.
My vehicle doesn't go anywhere, go with the flow.
This planet is 55 over 34, implosion over outrush.
The planet is not moving, consciousness is flowing along the geometry of the matrix.
The seed is encoded and signals out for the attuned information.
Akin to a radio/receiver( TTB radio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xODjbfYw8
Kevin
As for the field differentials(55/34?😎) it might be plausible that so called gravity here is much different than in other places, perhaps much stronger than visitors are prepared for?
I think the seed is just like an antenna and does receive its marching orders from the conscious realm, just as is DNA, much to the disagreement of scienceheads of today who have many convinced DNA is just some proteins...its much more.
I would think these visitors who are being shot down wouldve learned long ago to avoid this planet, which leads me to believe there is something here worth the effort...what could that be?
And we need to get rid of these idiots who think attacking a spaceship far more advanced than anything we have is a good idea...unless of course they think these craft theyre shooting at are of another nation instead.
We still need to be rid of them either way.
A lot of this points to us humans being in the middle of a power struggle between two distinct races of aliens, and one of them likely is behind the way we are treating the other here on earth.
Why didnt they engage the tictac I wonder?
Is it ours? They seemed very excited to see it on the radio, as if it were an exercise and not an invasion.
Were in the midst of something that we are barely aware of.
Why did the alleged visitors to the Las Vegas family seem so frightened and eager to gtfo of that backyard? Were they afraid of whay they knew was coming when the Black SUVs started circling?
Le
Le
your mention of q makes me think of this
i always wondered why folks followed and didn't look closer behind that curtain
and a very smart man said to me that he thought it was a 'social experiment'
soooooooooo
perhaps .. just perhaps all the ufo/apo stuff is also a social experiment
by whom and to what purpose...?
just a thought
QuoteI would think these visitors who are being shot down wouldve learned long ago to avoid this planet, which leads me to believe there is something here worth the effort...what could that be?
just another thought..
the earth is currently in 3rd dimension {choices}
but it is headin into 4th dimention (age of aquarius) going in and out
and trying to leave of pisces (religion)also going in and out
a time of confusion and adjusting to major change us older meatsuits are not having an easy time of it and wondering about all that woo-woo stuff we've been playing with or just
reading about is actually happening.
yeah it is.. but perhaps not as we thought
Well SO maybe
But my feeling is this is a big mis-direction campaign, 'Look we're not suppose to know what a woman or a man is',,,'The Covid game'.....'the UFO sittings'....
There is something else going on and no one is watching it....What? I really don't know....but something is coming down the pipeline and everyone will be surprised....IMO..
Quotebut something is coming down the pipeline and everyone will be surprised....IMO..
i totally agree with you Sarge... hopefully it will be positive
changed to shorter version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eolLcLbkZTQ
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 16, 2023, 11:33:28 PM
Well SO maybe
But my feeling is this is a big mis-direction campaign, 'Look we're not suppose to know what a woman or a man is',,,'The Covid game'.....'the UFO sittings'....
There is something else going on and no one is watching it....What? I really don't know....but something is coming down the pipeline and everyone will be surprised....IMO..
If that's what's happening it's not at a World scale, as the topics you mentioned are mostly an US thing.
Quote from: ArMaP on June 17, 2023, 01:33:22 PM
If that's what's happening it's not at a World scale, as the topics you mentioned are mostly an US thing.
Well i'm in the US and that's all that matters to me. ;) ::)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 17, 2023, 01:52:13 PM
Well i'm in the US and that's all that matters to me. ;) ::)
I know, I only meant to point that if there is an intention of misdirecting attentions then it's localized and not global.
Quote from: Littleenki on June 14, 2023, 12:01:57 AM
As for Grusch...Maybe its Grusch's personality that just doesnt convince me he was a part of it as much as he wants us to believe, but like I said I fully believe there is a deep state black ops program regarding aliens and their interactions with us.
Its like he got wind this was all going to go down and he jumped the gun to remain relevant in the discussion.
Sometimes feelings about someone can be dismissive. Its inherent of our human condition not to like or like someone for unreasonable reasons sometimes.
Honestly i don't care about wondering if selfish intentions are in the play. I just look at the facts. Facts are that he has credentials and facts are people have been even killed because spoken about the true face of these crash retrieval programs.
What would you gonna do? Speak or accept being silenced one way or another?
He has a lot to lose. I hope someday someone in the know that has the goods and nothing to loose come out. I always respect those that have nothing to lose. Govs not even pick up people like these because they now the dangers.
Wikileaks was shut down because they knew what was coming. BTW where is the whistleblower site The All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office were supposed by law to provide? Oh yes they are sitting on it since last christmas.
There is so much more but i'm tired rn. :)
Hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlP1fqyzGv8
Hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6qOppJ3PBk
Hero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM5BMjgAb3w
Hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwnXxC-Ab0
Hero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZBNiWVo9mk
Hero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2AK0T7BzM
Hero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pig6_3FAnQ0
Heroes (she and her husband):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNbPCS_gqZc
Hero (never thought a former head of cia would be something like this but this reality is crazy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_9D8n890QY
My favorite hero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hdaW6a9CbY
(found "hanged" 2 weeks after this interview)
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 10:25:08 AM
Hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlP1fqyzGv8
The signal school was at Ft. Gordon Ga. He should have known that. His reference to the school location was too general. I went to that school and I attended the Crypto part and was made a Crypto Accountant on my first duty assignment.
Now maybe his condition has made him abbreviate some things, but I can tell you this was rehearsed to the point that the moderator was leading him to certain things. IMO....(Btw...I had a TSC/Siop/Esi clearnce)!!!!
This was helpful...
https://youtu.be/pvdUjRvAcMs (https://youtu.be/pvdUjRvAcMs)
Le
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 10:45:03 AM
My favorite hero:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hdaW6a9CbY
(found "hanged" 2 weeks after this interview)
Yes. There have been many before like him.
I never suggested there werent nor did I ever suggest there was no reason for alarm or to start paying much closer attentions to government behavior and possible false flags.
I have watched nearly every single thing Eyes on Cinema has shared since the channel was created.
Calling them heros is somewhat appropriate, but in Grusch's case, it is not the correct term for him.
Almost all if not all he says is available and has been if we look hard enough...
His ambiguity about it all is an obvious red flag
His body language and demeanor are not indicative of anyone in the center of it but someone who is on the outside looking in and was not allowed full entrance to the circle.
So, he may be lashing out trying to expose those who he truly wanted to be a part of but never would be.
I still stand by my assessment.
He is either a fed priming us for a false flag
Or a disgruntled low tier member of some nefarious entity who decided to grab his moment of fame that that entity denied him.
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on June 19, 2023, 02:17:28 PM
This was helpful...
Le
Very helpful to see ontological shock people.
So what are your verdict? Its all bulshit LE? Is he a decoy to avoid other "wow important things?"(as if power needs any decoys nowadays as we can see the media abiding to anything) . Is he preparing the public for the blues bean show? I like blues btw.
Quote from: Littleenki on June 19, 2023, 02:45:49 PM
I still stand by my assessment.
He is either a fed priming us for a false flag
Or a disgruntled low tier member of some nefarious entity who decided to grab his moment of fame that that entity denied him.
I will go, still, with hero. Maybe be a heror. I still stand by my assessment: I dont care about if it is a selfish issue. I do care people understand we are not alone.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 02:55:07 PM
I do care people understand we are not alone.
And what it implies (most of what iit implies, honestly)
Quote from: Littleenki on June 19, 2023, 02:45:49 PM
So, he may be lashing out trying to expose those who he truly wanted to be a part of but never would be.
Maybe he tried a position on Battelle and got bitter :'( I would be.
Quote from: Littleenki on June 19, 2023, 02:45:49 PM
His ambiguity about it all is an obvious red flag
His body language and demeanor are not indicative of anyone in the center of it but someone who is on the outside looking in and was not allowed full entrance to the circle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DqdOw6Uy4
Where is the body language analysts on this one? 100% they are.
HERO BTW
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 05:07:08 PM
Where is the body language analysts on this one? 100% they are.
HERO BTW
Garry Nolan is an American immunologist, academic, inventor, and business executive. He holds the Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Professor Endowed Chair in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine. Nolan graduated from Cornell University with a BS degree in biology with a specialization in genetics in 1983. He received his PhD in genetics from Stanford University under Leonard Herzenberg in 1989. Nolan co-developed the 293T-based rapid retroviral production system and the cloning of the NF-B p65/ RelA DNA regulatory factor.0 Nolan's areas of research include hematopoiesis, cancer and leukemia, autoimmunity and inflammation, and computational approaches for network and systems immunology. He invented an innovative imaging platform called CODEX, which allows for nearly any inverted scope to be a 50-parameter imager using DNA tagged antibodies.
What is the (PSYOP) with this one LE?
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 05:20:17 PM
Nolan graduated from Cornell University with a BS degree in biology with a specialization in genetics in 1983.
Oh I see now its the BS degree. ;D
Not credible anymore. he has a BS degree >:(
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 02:49:40 PM
Very helpful to see ontological shock people.
So what are your verdict? Its all bulshit LE? Is he a decoy to avoid other "wow important things?"(as if power needs any decoys nowadays as we can see the media abiding to anything) . Is he preparing the public for the blues bean show? I like blues btw.
Right now for me its wait and see mode, but the body language and breakdowns they presented there are very helpful for some who arent as astute when recognizing these types of people and how they go about making everyone get emotional before rational.
The best experience Ive had in life for rooting out people like this has been by interviewing/hiring employees, that experience has served me well in dealing with the public as well.
Id say, of all the so called whistleblowers Ive seen, hes going to have to step up his game.
If I had to decide right f-ing now Id say hes another person who is tasked with presenting a narrative and his personality is just not suited to the task, which means hes probably a "normal" person who doesnt ordinarily deceive, because his approach is not one thats very powerfully or convincingly deceptive.
He also may have been chosen for this task, but decided to come out earlier than planned, so that would mean he is a hero to some degree, even if the material is not valid and genuine.
Then again a expert deceiver can assume different skins in the process of deception...and thats another problem in finding him honest in all this.
Reptiles can shift colors and apperances quite easily.
Blue Beam, if at all part of the current equation, would be a valuable tool to push a false flag invasion on the people, yet they may have shown a new propensity towards just going full on psychological as they have become so proficient at that methodology in recent decades.
The mind is a powerful tool to when having been steered into a corner, more so even than the physical aspect of technology and all the parts it is composed of.
Actual flying craft are truly the icing on the cake.
Im okay with Blues too, love me some Nawlins jazz/blues, I always try to see Kermit Ruffins too when there, he is a friend and Ive known him loosely for years. And the Marsalis family, Jason is Kermits drummer of choice, Such great talents. Corrosion of Conformity will sometime play a short blues set
during their live shows, best hybrid of blues and hard rock Ive heard.
What on earth could they be saying with this song? Ive got a pretty good idea lol
https://youtu.be/R2I2mK_3_ns (https://youtu.be/R2I2mK_3_ns).
Maybe if we get real aliens soon we can introduce them to our music and enjoy theirs, and discuss how to rid this planet of the scourge of those evil characters who have perpetuated all of this madness since we emerged from the Younger Dryas period of cataclysms.
I definitely dont think the government is up to that task anytime soon...or willing.
Cheers
Le
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 03:27:47 PM
Maybe he tried a position on Battelle and got bitter :'( I would be.
Lmao Russo, youre probably exactly right!😂😂😂
Its hard to find ways to hate mankind harder, Battelle is the flagship, to Tavistocks psych prowess!
Just because someone says something and I include myself, does not mean that what they say is the 'truth' or 'reality' of things.
There are 'motives' and justifications that go along with that.
If person 'A' says something and is believable, to YOU..then he/she must be telling the truth. The more 'truth' they espouse, the more you believe.
Hence a cult of personality exists.
I was once that way with John Lear. To me he was believable and was the 'Godfather of Conspiracy'. He was the MAN. Everything went through him. I believed hook line and sinker.
UNTIL
I got close enough to see all the shinny bobbles he was dangling were just something to make money and cult statis. And people he surrounded himself with provided more fodder for the fire.
And if you get relied on to preform certain tasks, you get sucked to do more and believe more.
BUT don't question anything with any logic, then no matter what you've might have done for him, you are the enemy.
This was just a taste of what I've experienced with aliens, UFO's, secret Government projects ...etc...etc...
Am I sour, hell yes I'm sour.
'The previous rant was brought to you by someone who's tired' and needs a nap... :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 19, 2023, 08:17:36 PM
Just because someone says something and I include myself, does not mean that what they say is the 'truth' or 'reality' of things.
There are 'motives' and justifications that go along with that.
If person 'A' says something and is believable, to YOU..then he/she must be telling the truth. The more 'truth' they espouse, the more you believe.
Hence a cult of personality exists.
I was once that way with John Lear. To me he was believable and was the 'Godfather of Conspiracy'. He was the MAN. Everything went through him. I believed hook line and sinker.
UNTIL
I got close enough to see all the shinny bobbles he was dangling were just something to make money and cult statis. And people he surrounded himself with provided more fodder for the fire.
And if you get relied on to preform certain tasks, you get sucked to do more and believe more.
BUT don't question anything with any logic, then no matter what you've might have done for him, you are the enemy.
This was just a taste of what I've experienced with aliens, UFO's, secret Government projects ...etc...etc...
Am I sour, hell yes I'm sour.
'The previous rant was brought to you by someone who's tired' and needs a nap... :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
UR Forgiven oh tired one.lol
I didnt know John and never really got super deep into what he was doing beyond just listening to his material, and never really formed any opinion of what he presented, but one thing he did was inspire me to get a telescope. And its one of the best things Ive ever done for myself personally, it turns out I never really did much for me, and often sacrificed my own pleasure to please others first. I know John and Zorgon were close, and now both are gone, and perhaps if there is a viewing window from above as Lou Baldin suggested, they are there now watching this all unfold.
I do look at the Moon everytime it is visible, and I know much of what we are told about it is lacking in substance, it and I have a personal relationship, solidified by technology of my telescopes, which can never be explained by any scientists or guru wannabes.
Aside from that, what youre saying about believing what is read or heard so easily describes a lot of folks Ive known, who as they are reading a new book, they suddenly feel they must adjust their lives to align with the ideas they were exposed to by that authors works, and it doesnt stop until they get a new book and start reading it.
Needless to say Ive had friends who were stuck on one thing for a while, so Id send them a book or bring them one from my own library, it was a pretty solid treatment that in many instances broke them free from the spell of the last one they read with alarming efficiency.
Ill admit it happened to me a lot more in my past, and I worked hard to temper that element of my own personality over the years.
I learned to sit on that fence a bit longer, and watch the animal farm's daily events unfold, and often I realized by not looking in the wide field lens, I missed so many other things going by.
I wouldnt say Im skeptic, because Im not, but many times when I question something, those around me will say oh youre being a skeptic...Id say the most recent instance, this alien disclosure one aside, was the vaccine push, and thank goodness I sat on that fence longer, because so many of the people I know who went balls to the walls on the jabs and masks suffered a poor outcome.
Trusting ones instincts, and not falling into that current thing trap has been a long arduous learning process for me, tbh.
Side Note....
You are correct, masks dont work in a positive way for a virus, they actually exacerbate the conditions in a detrimental way, not only do they reduce oxygen intake, virus rich moisture clogs them so the wearer repeatedly breathes viral particulate regardless of how far they are from the source of the initial viral particulate being trapped in them.
The wearing of them, especially the Forced wearing, creates a subliminal fear reaction in the wearer that often goes unnoticed by that selfsame wearer that may be worse than getting the virus itself in the long run.
Ill never be convinced they do work because they dont.
So theres that :P
Youre a bit longer in the tooth than me Sarge, but if I could say one thing from my similar standpoint of losing nearly everyone in my family, including my beautiful wife Christine of 33 years, some days I am sour too at the time I spent doing things on my own or away from all of those lost which seem almost unimportant now, but those things made me what I am and so I am saddled with them and how to deal with their effects on my life today.
You have so much to offer the world, wisdom and experience has no equal, and it makes me sad to think you are feeling sour in a time when you are holding so much valued experience, and may have felt it is just a bit too much to bother with.
I will say, despite what content of yours I havent commented much on here, I still have read, viewed and digested, and if you feel sometimes your words, wisdom, or lessons fall on deaf ears, that has never been the case with my own experience of seeing all youve worked so hard to share with everyone who comes here, and beyond.
You dont know how many times Ive seen things on or around the moon that made me think, geez Sgt RocknRoll would have loved to see that!
Maybe we have been sent down a similar path of loss, and theres a reason we are left to keep returning to these ideas and thoughts, and you can always know youve impacted so many, even if it doesnt always feel it was a meaningful effort, because it was Very meaningful and always will be.
Cheers,
Le
gold to you Le for your reply to Sarge....kindness and understanding while not in total agreement is to be saluted..thank you for showing how it is done
Sarge we all handle our lives the best we know how and i still have some family left but i feel your loss
i mostly use gradatute each morning to begin and get thru the day.. saying out loud what i am thankful for while being in my little garden.. and when things go south i ask myself just what the hell am i suppoed to learn from this...and i try to step back and listen for answers...sigh
i wish i had some magic answers but i don't and getting older is a real pain in the brain.
but please ease up on yourself and just know we hold you in esteem and friendship...
even when this stuff seems to be repeat and repeat
i am personaly thankful to be able to come and visit with you guys thanks :D
To Littleenki & Space Otter....
Thank you very much for those kind words and understanding..
But I could tell you both some things that about 'certain' people that would turn your collective stomachs....
But I digress.... I've always gone by the edict, never say something bad about people once they've gone....(I went back on my word)..
So just take it with a grain of salt coming from someone who lost a dear friend and is missing him...
Rock 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 19, 2023, 08:17:36 PM
Just because someone says something and I include myself, does not mean that what they say is the 'truth' or 'reality' of things.
There are 'motives' and justifications that go along with that.
If person 'A' says something and is believable, to YOU..then he/she must be telling the truth. The more 'truth' they espouse, the more you believe.
Hence a cult of personality exists.
That's why I said on (I think) another topic that I don't like "talking heads", I prefer verifiable facts.
But, having said the above, I also start by believing (if I don't have any reason to doubt it) what people say, but I mentally classify what was said as more or less likely to be true according to my own personal opinions (obviously, if we think for ourselves we have to admit that we are responsible for our own thoughts and how they influence our actions and other thoughts).
Some people appear to love to be the centre of attention and try to create an "entourage" to feel better (I suppose). Things become worse when they prefer to be almost (or really) worshiped by their "followers".
Unfortunately, things like Facebook created the perfect conditions for the spreading of people like this, thanks to the "likes" and the possibility to ignore those that do not agree with them, so now people that have more "likes", followers or whatever they are called on the social networks of their choice appear to those that prefer to follow blindly than to think for themselves as the best to follow and even "worship" as owners of the absolute true.
Thankfully, there are still places like Pegasus, with people that think for themselves (mostly thanks to the way Zorgon created Pegasus, based on verifiable data and opinions presented as such) and, even if they do not agree in many things among themselves, do not consider the others as being some kind of "lower cast".
PS: I hope you had a good nap, and a good rant never hurt nobody (I hope). ;)
Quote from: Littleenki on June 19, 2023, 09:03:08 PM
I wouldnt say Im skeptic, because Im not, but many times when I question something, those around me will say oh youre being a skeptic...Id say the most recent instance, this alien disclosure one aside, was the vaccine push, and thank goodness I sat on that fence longer, because so many of the people I know who went balls to the walls on the jabs and masks suffered a poor outcome.
A sceptic questions and doubts things, specially those presented in a "everybody agrees, so it must be true" way. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on June 20, 2023, 12:43:19 PM
A sceptic questions and doubts things, specially those presented in a "everybody agrees, so it must be true" way. :)
Well I must be shifting the Skeptic Overton window then..lol...but maybe its a feature of being repeatedly lied to and mistreated by my "leadership" here in the US.
I might need a new t shirt that says "tell me something I CAN believe" :D.
Le
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 20, 2023, 11:34:00 AM
To Littleenki & Space Otter....
Thank you very much for those kind words and understanding..
But I could tell you both some things that about 'certain' people that would turn your collective stomachs....
But I digress.... I've always gone by the edict, never say something bad about people once they've gone....(I went back on my word)..
So just take it with a grain of salt coming from someone who lost a dear friend and is missing him...
Rock 8)
Its my pleasure Sarge, weve never met but I am certain wed hit it off quickly if so.
The few times I chatted with Ron on messages and other places it was clear he was a genuinely good and decent man, who wanted to share his valuable knowledge with everyone who was willing to listen and pay attention, I sure wish I had gotten to meet him and clank a Stein with him.
Your own scruples are quite highly regarded my friend, sometimes just sharing things that people have done that are bad, can lead to a depressed feeling for the person sharing, a feeling that may be even worse than holding it in, but if it is relevant to anything in life, Ive always found its best to let those things go for my own peace of mind if the situation can be improved by that.
It is always a case by case for me when this issue arises...I basically try not to bring back pain that has already subsided, but if necessity demands, then, as Kramer said..let the expletives fly. ;)
I think thats whats happening today in the world of superconnected information...people are sometimes cautious not to say too much or share that which may blow up into something too big...like we see with our new group of whistleblowers...maybe Grusch is honest and doing this on his own accord, and maybe my vibes from him are tainted by experiences with past promises from the likes of others who say things that are "too good to be true" then turn out to be terribly inaccurate.
So, here we all are after all this place has been through, maybe there arent a hundred people commenting and posting these days as once was, but the fact the experiences here have shaped me and made me a better person in a lot of ways cant be ignored, and I wish all the people who are easily placated by tiktok and other pointless social media sites would try spending some time at places like PRC to see what theyre missing.
Glad to share some time here where many clear heads prevail, even if we dont all agree all the time. :)
Cheers!
Le
I had the distinct honor of visiting Ron, Zorgon and stayed with him for a couple of days.
He was truly the smartest person I have ever known.
He also, just by talking to me here on Peggy and on the phone, realized and accepted me as a friend and confidant.
For that, I will be forever thankful and grateful. :'(
Quote from: space otter on June 20, 2023, 03:53:10 AM
gold to you Le for your reply to Sarge....kindness and understanding while not in total agreement is to be saluted..thank you for showing how it is done
Sarge we all handle our lives the best we know how and i still have some family left but i feel your loss
i mostly use gradatute each morning to begin and get thru the day.. saying out loud what i am thankful for while being in my little garden.. and when things go south i ask myself just what the hell am i suppoed to learn from this...and i try to step back and listen for answers...sigh
i wish i had some magic answers but i don't and getting older is a real pain in the brain.
but please ease up on yourself and just know we hold you in esteem and friendship...
even when this stuff seems to be repeat and repeat
i am personaly thankful to be able to come and visit with you guys thanks :D
Aww shucks Mrs Otter, its been my pleasure..I always tell folks about my 162+171=333 dreams which follow me to this day, and how you shared the meaning of those number with me, helping me to realize it is a message of hope and regrowth from the universe.
With so much rigid structure around us, meeting others who would be happy just tossing a blanket on the ground in a dense garden and waiting for the possums to come around and eat from my hand is a huge relief in a world of self absorbed ego driven drones with blinders on.
My time here has been well spent and enjoyed thanks to folks like yourself, thank you for your friendship if even from afar, we are all connected by the ALL who will always listen and provide the answers if we just do the same.
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 20, 2023, 03:33:06 PM
I had the distinct honor of visiting Ron, Zorgon and stayed with him for a couple of days.
He was truly the smartest person I have ever known.
He also, just by talking to me here on Peggy and on the phone, realized and accepted me as a friend and confidant.
For that, I will be forever thankful and grateful. :'(
That mustve been a very enlightening time Sarge, Im glad you got to do it, now you have a great memory to hold dear.
I must admit, the two most impactful and intelligent people Ive met virtually in my life, are Ron and Kevin(Hobbit), Kevin suggested I come here after meeting on the Megalithic.UK forum, where of course Zorgon challenged my mind like no other had, and in a way that was different from how Kevin approached it.
If I had teachers like all of you here as a young man, I might have been able to forge a better life for myself, who knows?
Im not a big traveller so I never really have made the effort to go and meet people, but retirement is coming in September 2025, and I think Im going to do just that if my health stays stable enough and the country hasnt been destroyed by demo-marxists yet lol.
Peace Brother,
Dave
Tomorrow is the summer solstice ( sun still)
Here it is at 15.58PM.
https://www.veloasia.com/library/buckley/churning_milk.html
That carving at Angkor wat displays the tug of war between implosion over outrush of consciousness.
The craft everyone is blathering on about modulate about themselves that duality and focus the cross of polarity and equator about themselves to displace in universe, as the planet does, as do YOU.
We are all such craft, but have a limited amount of consciousness, and it is that potential that provides for so called movement, it is not that it is displacement in the perfectly packed solid which is universe.
Know thyself and You know how universe operates, and the distraction/s are to stop humans from learning such, to keep them as dumb obedient slaves.
There is no such force called gravity, and time is only relevant to the dominant field You are within ( the earths)
Alter time and You alter gravity, the solstice timing is very important in comprehending this as the geometry of the earths field aligns with the suns field, a great time for craft to enter the Earths field.
All so called UFOs are time machines, and they are seeding the technology back in time to enable their time to be so.
Kevin
Vishnu is in the center of that tug of war, Vishnu balances the world between good and evil, and as such it seems that today evil is winning.
Angkor Wat is a scene of many temples and sites which comprise a once powerful circuitry of consciousness, the Stupas and elements of the temples possibly being antennae for those flows youre speaking of, or better yet, conductors for it.
Unfortunately like the pyramids and other sites, the ability to concentrate that consciousness may have been lost or forgotten, or the geometry of the sites no longer meets the criteria for such a use.
The rope in the tug of war to me is a conductor, and the consciousness(electricity) flowing around it in a spiral is represented by the twisted competitors.
My thoughts are the inrush versus outrush you speak of is the creator of the differential we call gravity. Gravity may be a result of consciousness flowing into the planets field, and the resistance of the planetary field creates a push which we perceive as such. The outrush then would logically be whatever charge is left to be repelled away from the planets field center.
Consciousness of course in this case could be described as being electricity or possibly even electromagnetism, which is the all pervasive force in the universe.
The Akasha of the Vedantic Hindus
The Kybalion also speaks of Polarity, and all being Mind.
Many disciplines recognize this, as a sort of infinite hard drive anyone can access by adjusting their field(meditating, remote viewing)
So, as we see information in a system is ushered around through conductors and circuitry, suggesting that in such a scenario as youre speaking of here, the existence of consciousness is based on the differentials of electro-magnetic fields interacting with one another.
Craft and humans being so alike would suggest that the craft themselves are sentient, is that possible? I think it may well be..since weve heard from many sources(Bob Lazar being one) that the craft may be controlled by the operator's minds.
It seems the repeated instances of terminology related to electricity and magnetism run deep.
I have always felt that electricity and magnetism are some sort of life forces, when described in our limited terminology...so is a electric motor that manifests electricity just accessing the flow of consciousness or information?
Id think the best way to hyper-advance your own technology would be to go back in time and throw breadcrumbs, not necessarily send an actual person or craft back, but just tidbits of information which would be like seeds.
Seems to me that the current hubbub going on about UFOs and aliens may be a conflict between reality and our own future selves trying too hard to send these seeds quicker and more densely. Seeds which are crowded into a planting hole will always grow wonky, and should always be planted one at a time one per hole.
Are our insane world leaders the result of overseeding, and now the construct is falling apart? Are the sprouts wonky? I think they are.
Something in the garden is not right, and its almost like when someone sprays chemicals onto their garden and mutates and poisons the natural plant chemistry and growth.
Cheers
Le
Wow littleenki You are class
It is an honour to be Your friend.
June the 16th here is the first day of the river fishing season, I thought of You most respected one when I caught My first chub of the season.
One of those craft will have Thomas Townsend Brown as it's name, who do You think Enki was??? little one?
Kevin
The feeling is mutual amigo!!
Thats great fish-news too Kevin, the Chub are no match for the wise salmon🙂🐟
My fishing season is slowing here, mostly catfish,snapper, and an alien looking thing called a Mojarra, its their time in the sun.
I always think of Enki as the Father of Man, so basically we are all Littleenki.
Molded in Clay, bestowed with wisdom and intellect, in the image of that creator.
Enlil was the drunken uncle and using his wine tainted blood is maybe why humans are a bit wonky lol!
Are these increased interests in the UFO truth just a part of a program, ordering us to seek and retrieve that which is stored on a metaphorical silicon wafer somewhere? Is Our patriarch sending messages?
Its thunderstorming here and that and all this ufo stuff has me watching the skies, Im thinking that what a great way for a visiting race to destroy our infrastructure, with weather.
Its happened before.
If this reptilian race is who you suggest is running things, it would also make sense they have done it before..you know, like a flood or something😎
It would be helpful to have the ability to go off planet during these resets of the aquarium, especially if you are doing the full monty on said planet.
Would our dad kill almost all of us again?
And why are governments scrambling to build underground fortresses, theyll just get pancaked into oblivion if a true cataclysm occurs...so whats going on down there?
Why not just build bases on the dark side of the moon?😳
Weird cloud formations and weather has been the norm here for a couple days now, folks might want to look up a bit more in the coming days.
Maybe theyre telling us one of us will need to be the next Utnapishtim?
Cheers!
Le
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZUbUPIdpYo
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 05:42:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZUbUPIdpYo
Lets hold hands and sing Kumbaya as we already were sold back then. Kumbaya Dwight Eisenhower.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 05:07:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DqdOw6Uy4
Where is the body language analysts on this one? 100% they are.
HERO BTW
Where is the body language analysts on this one?
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 08:50:49 AM
Where is the body language analysts on this one?
Is he telling the truth? Is his body language funny?
He must be a lier, because nda
diana pasulca must be tripping too. as she plot with gary nolan in the desert
what was she triping on?
So he bring her to a disclosed location. And?
ArMaP should bring the Corona Virus Concerns Members only to public as he already exposed it to.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 09:31:17 AM
ArMaP should bring the Corona Virus Concerns Members only to public as he already exposed it to.
lets get context. Then i will get some work.
let me enjoy:
Quote from: RUSSO on June 19, 2023, 05:07:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DqdOw6Uy4
Where is the body language analysts on this one? 100% they are.
HERO BTW
Where is the body language analysts on this one?
Where?
Quote from: Littleenki on June 19, 2023, 02:45:49 PM
I have watched nearly every single thing Eyes on Cinema has shared since the channel was created.
Lets go furthen then.
hornet nest in washington= Grush
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 01:43:50 PM
hornet nest in washington= Grush
Like we didn't already know that. ::)
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 09:33:35 AM
lets get context. Then i will get some work.
let me enjoy:
Where is the body language analysts on this one?
Where?
No need, theres nothing there...
For some reason no youtubes are showing up for me on anyones posts.
Must be little green men😂
Quote from: Littleenki on June 22, 2023, 03:37:52 PM
No need, theres nothing there...
For some reason no youtubes are showing up for me on anyones posts.
Must be little green men😂
::)
That is strange. No body language? Gary nolan is body language Kevlar proof?
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 04:13:20 PM
That is strange. No body language? Gary nolan is body language Kevlar proof?
Is he fiber optics or integrated circuit proof aware too? Give me some hope aliens are not here LE!
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 04:13:20 PM
That is strange. No body language? Gary nolan is body language Kevlar proof?
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 04:24:51 PM
I need to sleep
Please tell me aliens are not here""""
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 04:57:59 PM
Why they abduct people LE?
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 05:00:35 PM
ArMaP You dont believe this. Why this psychosis worldwide?
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 05:12:48 PM
there is no abductions right? it is mass hysteria right? No hybrids child's and no aliens right?
No alien infiltration. Thats nuts! ::)
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 05:30:55 PM
No alien infiltration. Thats nuts! ::)
Lets go from here: It is nuts just to think some other civilization that has plenty of time would...
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 09:31:17 AM
ArMaP should bring the Corona Virus Concerns Members only to public as he already exposed it to.
Explain, please.
Quote from: ArMaP on June 22, 2023, 07:40:20 PM
Explain, please.
That's why I said on (I think) another topic that I don't like "talking heads", I prefer verifiable facts.
But, having said the above
QuoteVerifiable facts.
Then give me one of those examples.
Google maps is nothing special, one it appeared it was already old technology.
Just Make it public. I can do it too if you not. Just need approval.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 07:59:34 PM
That's why I said on (I think) another topic that I don't like "talking heads", I prefer verifiable facts.
But, having said the above
Just Make it public. I can do it too if you not. Just need approval.
Hey here in Brazil we rarely talk about CoViD-19 now, it was "downgraded" to a flu variant and is treated like a flu. soo. lets get it to public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hmaflNoKU
Rubio: "I will say that there are people who have come forward to share information with our committee over the last couple of years. I would imagine some of them are potentially some of the same people that perhaps he is referring to. I want to be very protective of these people. A lot of these people came to us before even before these protections were in the law. They're whistleblowers to come forward."
Interviewer: "They're people who have had first hand knowledge? Who claim to have first hand knowledge, of seeing this type of thing?"
Rubio: "Or have first hand knowledge, or have first hand claims of certain things. Some are public figures, you know, and you've heard from them in the past. Others, um, you know, have not shared publicly. So we're trying to gather as much of that information as we can. And the reason I'm being cautious, I'm not trying to be evasive, but I am trying to be protective of these people. Some of these people still work in the government, and frankly, a lot of them are very fearful. Very fearful of their jobs, fearful of their clearances, fearful of their career, and... and... and... some, frankly, are fearful of harm coming to them."
Interviewer: "So that category of people, who have first hand knowledge, who say they've actually seen these kind of things, do you find many of them credible?"
Rubio: "Well I don't find them either credible or not credible, because we have no basis about... Understand, some of these claims are beyond sort of even the realm of what sort of any of us have ever dealt with. What I think we owe them, is just a mature, you know, understand... a listening, and trying to put these pieces together and sort of intake the information without any pre-judgement or jumping to any conclusions or one direction or another. I will say, I find most of these people, at some point, or maybe even currently, have held very high clearances, in high positions within our government. So, you start asking, you do ask yourself... what incentive would so many people with that kind of qualifications... these are serious people... to come forward and make something up?"
For those that called suspicious body language on David Grush: (and for those that appreciate reddit user skills to get little clips for hours long videos :D)
A clip from David Grusch's "Back Up tape"
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14ix1gw/a_clip_from_david_gruschs_back_up_tape/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14ivbm2/ross_and_bryce_explain_david_gruschs_strange/
Original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVjzYwQDzeg
Btw...
Did Ross Coulthart just say Grusch is autistic in today's Need to Know episode?
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7HpsoyErV4gKFobgrtwBTR?si=6TGOIUIvSnSXwCmact-cAg&nd=1
2:14 Ross Coulthart says: "There's been absolutely no attempt by the DoD or the IG to lay a glove on the credibility of David Grusch. The best we've had to date is a somewhat speculative psychological profile by a bunch of psychologists who think that Dave's body language is deceptive, and I just think what they've done, or albeit it's legitimate, I guess, it doesn't take into account the quite understandable differences between somebody who, on Dave's own admission, he's autistic, and he was also talking about the most incredible story in human history. I think he can be excused for feeling slightly nervous."
It's fun to point fingers to other people's behavior(Body language) when you are not walking in their shoes in the first place. Anyways, smear campaigns, same old same old.
Quote from: RUSSO on June 22, 2023, 09:33:35 AM
lets get context. Then i will get some work.
let me enjoy:
Where is the body language analysts on this one?
Where?
You didn't "touch" Garry Nolan body language Littleenki. Besides that i have to apologize about a mistake i made. It was not Nolan that bring her to a disclosed location. They both had to be blindfolded to that place.
I disagree with Dr. Diana (vatican) Pasulka about some points in the interview below. 0 1 for example. Anyways its free and you can listen below:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0IFFhylsofZ3CSnyT6YEKs?si=pVkYIUY7TK2xjccunn18JQ&nd=1
Quote from: RUSSO on June 29, 2023, 07:14:03 AM
Rubio: "I will say that there are people who have come forward to share information with our committee over the last couple of years. I would imagine some of them are potentially some of the same people that perhaps he is referring to.
First of all, thanks for the transcript. :)
I find it funny how evasive he is that sentence.
QuoteSome of these people still work in the government, and frankly, a lot of them are very fearful. Very fearful of their jobs, fearful of their clearances, fearful of their career, and... and... and... some, frankly, are fearful of harm coming to them."
This is interesting, although a little vague.
QuoteRubio: "Well I don't find them either credible or not credible, because we have no basis about... Understand, some of these claims are beyond sort of even the realm of what sort of any of us have ever dealt with. What I think we owe them, is just a mature, you know, understand... a listening, and trying to put these pieces together and sort of intake the information without any pre-judgement or jumping to any conclusions or one direction or another.
I agree, we should
always listen to what people have to say, regardless of our own opinions.
QuoteI will say, I find most of these people, at some point, or maybe even currently, have held very high clearances, in high positions within our government. So, you start asking, you do ask yourself... what incentive would so many people with that kind of qualifications... these are serious people... to come forward and make something up?"
That's an important question: what makes those people come forward now.
QuoteIt's fun to point fingers to other people's behavior(Body language) when you are not walking in their shoes in the first place.
I am always very suspicious of "body language readers" in things like this, as, to me, to make a credible analysis we need to know very well the person. Just applying generic ideas is a good way of failling.
Another thing I find "funny" is how people give those interpretations so much importance, as if this was some kind of established science.
I am going to say this for the last time (whether I said it before or not) lol
When you swear, with your right hand and then 'sign' your name and then are given a TS clearance, it clearly states that if you violate that oath, there are severe consequences to that violation.
YOU ARE NOT A WISTLEBLOWER, YOU ARE A TRAITOR.
There is clearly a time span on that oath and after a certain time period you can talk freely about your experiences. That is usually but not limited to 40 years.
Most of the people I have seen lately have neither first had of knowledge of anything. It's either they 'think' they saw something or 'someone' told them a story.
It's when you search for things and use 'other' peoples experiences (questionable) and tout that as fact is when you have the 'UFO Disease'. IMO
Rock 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 29, 2023, 12:15:51 PM
I am going to say this for the last time (whether I said it before or not) lol
When you swear, with your right hand and then 'sign' your name and then are given a TS clearance, it clearly states that if you violate that oath, there are severe consequences to that violation.
YOU ARE NOT A WISTLEBLOWER, YOU ARE A TRAITOR.
There is clearly a time span on that oath and after a certain time period you can talk freely about your experiences. That is usually but not limited to 40 years.
Most of the people I have seen lately have neither first had of knowledge of anything. It's either they 'think' they saw something or 'someone' told them a story.
It's when you search for things and use 'other' peoples experiences (questionable) and tout that as fact is when you have the 'UFO Disease'. IMO
Rock 8)
Boom!
Thats about the same conclusion Im getting to Sarge, and it sure did blow up and just go away as fast..No matter the validity of any of these folks, I dont think the most recent hub bub weve seen is warranted.
Everything theyve shared is already available or known information.
When its time for disclosure, we will know it, there will be no question whats happening.
And I wont care as long as they dont make me spill my scotch, or ruin my fishing area, If we can live with democrats, we can live with aliens.
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: ArMaP on June 29, 2023, 11:28:30 AM
That's an important question: what makes those people come forward now.
I wonder it too. Hope it is not my worst wondering scenario.
Clap, clap! Well done, concise summary! I am impressed with the point he made at 19:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOp_56xAK58
Nice one
Quote from: ArMaP on June 29, 2023, 11:28:30 AM
I am always very suspicious of "body language readers" in things like this, as, to me, to make a credible analysis we need to know very well the person. Just applying generic ideas is a good way of failling.
Another thing I find "funny" is how people give those interpretations so much importance, as if this was some kind of established science.
Agree
Quote from: ArMaP on June 29, 2023, 11:28:30 AM
This is interesting, although a little vague.
You know what i find interesting, although a little vague too?
Society ontological shock. I mean, are we heading to an one world government to fight aliens or to be abiding to them? I know pure speculation.
I doubt we'll be fighting any aliens... Much like child trafficking I'm sure exposure may upset a multi-billion dollar industry likely hiding in plain sight here somewhere. If there is anywhere near the degree of sightings over the decades there MUST be some black market shenanigans going on in the background. Everything seems to be for sale for a price.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 02, 2023, 03:10:26 PM
I doubt we'll be fighting any aliens... Much like child trafficking I'm sure exposure may upset a multi-billion dollar industry likely hiding in plain sight here somewhere. If there is anywhere near the degree of sightings over the decades there MUST be some black market shenanigans going on in the background. Everything seems to be for sale for a price.
Thats a pretty interesting theory right there
Everyone is thinking this is the government black ops but what if the government is in the dark as well?
Id definitely think Aliens would be unwilling to work with a bunch of clowns like Bidens puppet dictatorship.
Maybe thats why this "disclosure" is coming out is because the PTB have no control of the narrative at the base level.
Democrats and deep state must want to disrupt the whole situation so they unleash a whole bunch of propaganda(again) hoping it helps their effort, but it wont.
When the Aliens are ready for us to see, theyll show us.
If.
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on July 03, 2023, 01:01:40 AM
Everyone is thinking this is the government black ops but what if the government is in the dark as well?
When you say 'government', do you mean the elected completely ignorant people that are suppose to be in charge?
Somehow I don't think so.
This is all a game.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 03, 2023, 11:40:22 AM
When you say 'government', do you mean the elected completely ignorant people that are suppose to be in charge?
Somehow I don't think so.
This is all a game.
I hear ya Sarge, I hate the word government, and just use it to lump them all into one collective of elected bozos who do nothing but dance around like jesters to distract while the real shady characters are behind the scenes...
Obama, Nuland, Rice...etc etc
My question was basically are there non humans running the show and not our own sneaky arse black ops, or at least could these NHIs be running the show while lowly humans do the dirty work?
And do the black ops entities keep these elected bozos in the fold, or the dark?
How many layers are there anyways?
I agree, this is a game, the world is the board and we are the pieces, Someone once said that boardgames were designed around the idea of dominant vs submissive entities and constant conflict among all entities involved.
Luckily we can look at the physical evidence of past civlizations, and know they existed, and its likely that the structure of all of this charade has been underway for millennia.
I wonder what Ezekiel saw, and who came in and swooped up the evidence when one of them crashed?
Vimanas?
Weird religious art "spaceships"?
Lord Pakal in his pilot seat flying his craft?
History today is so watered down, stained, and painted over, it seems they have practiced and perfected this for much longer than mainstream history tells us.
Id have to guess whoever is at the controls of the black recovery programs is implementing an ages old routine, whether theyre NHI or human, or a hybrid of the two, and we are just seeing the final product in the sky, just like Ezekiel did.
Le
I recently noticed a lot of 'Unknown' history being put forth on FB and other social media.
I guess there is a lot of undiscovered history out there OR more likely PTB are monitoring my social media 'likes' and are spoon feeding me my so-called 'interest'.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 03, 2023, 08:09:08 PM
I recently noticed a lot of 'Unknown' history being put forth on FB and other social media.
I guess there is a lot of undiscovered history out there OR more likely PTB are monitoring my social media 'likes' and are spoon feeding me my so-called 'interest'.
Facebook is hands down the king of carrying that stuff farther than anyone else I would imagine, and considering the PTB lost Twatter as a tool recently, Zucker-Borg has likely teamed up to help them get back to their usual levels of information siphoning.
I agree with Archaix that the secret to knowing true history is to find old books, and look deep into them, and compare them with other newer books on similar time periods...which often will show differing stories on the same subjects.
I have dozens of older books I found on Amazon and they always read better than anything written in the Federal Reserve era, take that how you will😎.
Not a big follower of the Mudflood stuff because it just shows us that there have been lots of them and some covered older structures, or cities even, causing newer buildings to sit right on top of old ones.Thats common sense to me, not a mystery of history.
Blavatsky and the theosophers talk about how many historical events are dated wrong and how many world dictators erased entire volumes of recorded work.
i.e. The "library" of Alexandria ironically had no books available for visitors to read at all, instead using clerks or mystics to inform folks of ancient history
by word of mouth or recommending of places the seeker can travel to to study.
We have to understand that actual books, used to be as valuable as any precious metal, and the skills to read them were even more valuable and less common in older days primarily before the Catholic Church was formed.
I think the UFO craze was really turbocharged by Chariots of the Gods and Carl Sagans works, and although the books written in the years after Roswell are wonderful to read, many of them to me smack of being a sort of government propaganda.
I dont use facebook anymore because it just has been proven to be so slimy and underhanded, and a clear wing of the NSA and CIA.
Instagram and Tiktok, Snapchat etc etc are really to me are what is damaging todays young minds, Twitter is just where people go to argue still its just the other half who is getting censored now lol.
Check out Archaix and his several different areas
of research, his Nemesis theory is a very compelling argument for recurring cataclysms that are documented well because they cant alter geology and they cant burn all of the old books.
I ignore the stuff about his stupid youth mistakes, he has been punished and has made a new life for himself and I feel thats the ultimate goal of imprisoning someone who commits serious crimes, which seems to be the case with Jason.
This discussion is relevant to the UFO stuff on this thread, as one of the most suppressed or manipulated subjects is likely the discovery of archaeological material from off planet, and recurring visitations by them here all through history.
Of course as I have suggested many times, there is a very strong possibility that the entire realm of UFO stuff is planted into society, as a replacement or alteration of the actual thing thats going on here.
Cheers!
Le
The only reason I use FaceCrook, is that so many of my family and friends use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DqdOw6Uy4
So... Body language experts? Is he lying?
Quote from: RUSSO on June 29, 2023, 07:14:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hmaflNoKU
Rubio: "I will say that there are people who have come forward to share information with our committee over the last couple of years. I would imagine some of them are potentially some of the same people that perhaps he is referring to. I want to be very protective of these people. A lot of these people came to us before even before these protections were in the law. They're whistleblowers to come forward."
Interviewer: "They're people who have had first hand knowledge? Who claim to have first hand knowledge, of seeing this type of thing?"
Rubio: "Or have first hand knowledge, or have first hand claims of certain things. Some are public figures, you know, and you've heard from them in the past. Others, um, you know, have not shared publicly. So we're trying to gather as much of that information as we can. And the reason I'm being cautious, I'm not trying to be evasive, but I am trying to be protective of these people. Some of these people still work in the government, and frankly, a lot of them are very fearful. Very fearful of their jobs, fearful of their clearances, fearful of their career, and... and... and... some, frankly, are fearful of harm coming to them."
Interviewer: "So that category of people, who have first hand knowledge, who say they've actually seen these kind of things, do you find many of them credible?"
Rubio: "Well I don't find them either credible or not credible, because we have no basis about... Understand, some of these claims are beyond sort of even the realm of what sort of any of us have ever dealt with. What I think we owe them, is just a mature, you know, understand... a listening, and trying to put these pieces together and sort of intake the information without any pre-judgement or jumping to any conclusions or one direction or another. I will say, I find most of these people, at some point, or maybe even currently, have held very high clearances, in high positions within our government. So, you start asking, you do ask yourself... what incentive would so many people with that kind of qualifications... these are serious people... to come forward and make something up?"
For those that called suspicious body language on David Grush: (and for those that appreciate reddit user skills to get little clips for hours long videos :D)
A clip from David Grusch's "Back Up tape"
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14ix1gw/a_clip_from_david_gruschs_back_up_tape/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14ivbm2/ross_and_bryce_explain_david_gruschs_strange/
Original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVjzYwQDzeg
Btw...
Did Ross Coulthart just say Grusch is autistic in today's Need to Know episode?
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7HpsoyErV4gKFobgrtwBTR?si=6TGOIUIvSnSXwCmact-cAg&nd=1
2:14 Ross Coulthart says: "There's been absolutely no attempt by the DoD or the IG to lay a glove on the credibility of David Grusch. The best we've had to date is a somewhat speculative psychological profile by a bunch of psychologists who think that Dave's body language is deceptive, and I just think what they've done, or albeit it's legitimate, I guess, it doesn't take into account the quite understandable differences between somebody who, on Dave's own admission, he's autistic, and he was also talking about the most incredible story in human history. I think he can be excused for feeling slightly nervous."
It's fun to point fingers to other people's behavior(Body language) when you are not walking in their shoes in the first place. Anyways, smear campaigns, same old same old.
How about this one^? i fixed cause apparently the one i posted earlier was was snapped from youtube
Hero!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS3nI1sHXVs
Another one for the club.
Quote from: RUSSO on July 05, 2023, 07:43:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DqdOw6Uy4
So... Body language experts? Is he lying?
You can cope whatever you want. You can believe whatever you want. You can dismiss the murders of the past. You an even dismiss the history of it all. But dont bring politics to this thread. Thank you.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 04, 2023, 01:26:21 PM
The only reason I use FaceCrook, is that so many of my family and friends use it.
Thats no reason. Btw i use it too.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 03, 2023, 11:40:22 AM
When you say 'government', do you mean the elected completely ignorant people that are suppose to be in charge?
Somehow I don't think so.
This is all a game.
Game is on then. If this was all black programs, we would not have the ukraine situation. I mean both sides have the crafts. Is this a dare situation? if so it is a dare dumb one. I dont have a bunker do you?
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 03, 2023, 08:09:08 PM
I recently noticed a lot of 'Unknown' history being put forth on FB and other social media.
I guess there is a lot of undiscovered history out there OR more likely PTB are monitoring my social media 'likes' and are spoon feeding me my so-called 'interest'.
At least im closer to Patagónia, i still probably die from freese but cope and hope you know? Not gonna happen! But those people that find funny work our lives are dumb too.
why these people look so bad for domination? we are already slaves anyway. They are slaves too.
Quote from: RUSSO on July 05, 2023, 07:43:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DqdOw6Uy4
So... Body language experts? Is he lying?
Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Professor, Stanford University School of Medicine
Dr. Nolan is the Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Professor in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine. He trained with Leonard Herzenberg (for his Ph.D.) and Nobelist Dr. David Baltimore (for postdoctoral work for the first cloning/characterization of NF-κB p65/ RelA and the development of rapid retroviral production systems). He has published over 300 research articles and is the holder of 40 US patents, and has been honored as one of the top 25 inventors at Stanford University.
Dr. Nolan is the first recipient of the Teal Innovator Award (2012) from the Department of Defense (a $3.3 million grant for advanced studies in ovarian cancer), the first recipient of an FDA BAAA, for "Bio-agent protection" grant, $3million, from the FDA for a "Cross-Species Immune System Reference", and received the award for "Outstanding Research Achievement in 2011" from the Nature Publishing Group for his development of CyTOF applications in the immune system. Dr. Nolan has new efforts in the study of Ebola, having developed instrument platforms to deploy in the field in Africa to study Ebola samples safely with the need to transport them to overseas labs (funded by a new $3.5 million grant from the FDA) and another grant to study the effects of Zika and Ebola viruses on humans (also from the FDA).
Dr. Nolan is an outspoken proponent of translating public investment in basic research to serve the public welfare. Dr. Nolan was the founder of Rigel Inc. (NASDAQ: RIGL), and Nodality, Inc. (a diagnostics development company), BINA (a genomics computational infrastructure company sold to Roche Diagnostics), Founder of Apprise (sold to Roche Sequencing Solutions), co-Founder of Ionpath, co-Founder of Akoya, and serves on the Boards of Directors of several companies as well as consults for other biotechnology companies. DVS Sciences, on which he was Chair of the Scientific Advisory Board, recently sold to Fluidigm for $207 million dollars (2014) on an investment of $14 million. Dr. Nolan is a member of the Parker Institute for Cancer Immunotherapy at Stanford.
His areas of research include hematopoiesis, cancer and leukemia, autoimmunity and inflammation, and computational approaches for network and systems immunology. Dr. Nolan's recent efforts are focused on a single cell analysis advance using a mass spectrometry-flow cytometry hybrid device, the so- call "CyTOF" and the "Multiparameter Ion Beam Imager" (MIBI) developed by Dr. Mike Angelo in his lab (Dr. Angelo is now an Assistant Professor in the Dept of Pathology at Stanford). The approaches use an advanced ion plasma source to determine the levels of tagged reagents bound to cells—enabling a vast increase in the number of parameters that can be measured per cell—either as flow cytometry devices (CyTOF) or imaging platforms for cancer (MIBI). Further efforts with another imaging platform termed CODEX (Akoya, Inc.) that inexpensively converts fluorescence scopes to high dimensional imaging platforms.
Dr. Nolan's efforts are to enable a deeper understanding not only of normal immune function, trauma, pathogen infection, and other inflammatory events but also detailed substructures of leukemias and solid cancers and their interactions with the immune system—which will enable wholly new understandings that will enable better management of disease and clinical outcomes.
https://www.salt.org/speakers/garry-nolan
So... Body language experts? Is he lying?
Quote from: Ellirium113 on July 02, 2023, 03:10:26 PM
I doubt we'll be fighting any aliens... Much like child trafficking I'm sure exposure may upset a multi-billion dollar industry likely hiding in plain sight here somewhere. If there is anywhere near the degree of sightings over the decades there MUST be some black market shenanigans going on in the background. Everything seems to be for sale for a price.
it's plenty in our faces.
Quote from: RUSSO on July 05, 2023, 07:48:16 AM
Garry Nolan
At 1.05 he mention covid. Can you body experts tell me what his body tell?
Hero!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqbNlj-k0Zo&t=3s
Iconic, treasure, her place in history!
Who is in charge here?
https://twitter.com/UFOB_/status/1674701304893956099?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1674701304893956099%7Ctwgr%5E70a57f80fbd742df71bca4bd774c1939909cea0d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F14mz5ku%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse (https://twitter.com/UFOB_/status/1674701304893956099?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1674701304893956099%7Ctwgr%5E70a57f80fbd742df71bca4bd774c1939909cea0d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F14mz5ku%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse)
Quote from: RUSSO on July 09, 2023, 07:58:54 AM
Hero!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqbNlj-k0Zo&t=3s
Iconic, treasure, her place in history!
There was a reason she and her husband were 'allowed' to tell this story.
More strings being pulled.
If 'they' didn't want this to be seen or have B & B 'allowed' to remember anything, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
They are/where just puppets in the big 'game'. IMO (as we are) ::)
Rock 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 09, 2023, 12:14:55 PM
There was a reason she and her husband were 'allowed' to tell this story.
More strings being pulled.
If 'they' didn't want this to be seen or have B & B 'allowed' to remember anything, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
They are/where just puppets in the big 'game'. IMO (as we are) ::)
Rock 8)
Is this because obama is doing a movie about them?
Is obama the puppet master?
We are puppets, but clearly, even with your clearances, you did not figure out a lot.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 09, 2023, 12:14:55 PM
There was a reason she and her husband were 'allowed' to tell this story.
Is there a reason you are not 'allowed' to tell? Maybe they psychological operations you! Thats why you not remember. :-\
Russo 8)
Quote from: RUSSO on July 09, 2023, 12:42:53 PM
Is there a reason you are not 'allowed' to tell? Maybe they psychological operations you! Thats why you not remember. :-\
Russo 8)
besides that you are very picky on what you reply.
how abou these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DqdOw6Uy4
https://twitter.com/UFOB_/status/1674701304893956099?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1674701304893956099%7Ctwgr%5E70a57f80fbd742df71bca4bd774c1939909cea0d%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F14mz5ku%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
Russo 8)
There's already been a movie about Betty & Barney (James Earl Jones btw)
What I mean is you wouldn't be alive if they didn't want you to say anything.
Saying something is in their plans. ("Hell Russians don't take a dump without a plan:) ;) ;D to quote a movie
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 09, 2023, 07:57:31 PM
There's already been a movie about Betty & Barney (James Earl Jones btw)
Ohh i thought it was V1983
QuoteWhat I mean is you wouldn't be alive if they didn't want you to say anything.
humm, Assange is still alive. We are not it seems.
QuoteSaying something is in their plans. ("Hell Russians don't take a dump without a plan:) ;) ;D to quote a movie
Ok. My saying something plan is: Even if they think they have the right about our civilization. We have to expose this all. :) 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 09, 2023, 07:57:31 PM
What I mean is you wouldn't be alive if they didn't want you to say anything.
This truly proves that they hold all the strings of our lives! I mean, if they didn't want us to say anything, why would they make a movie about it, right? It's clear that every word we utter is part of their grand design and meticulous plan. I guess even mundane bodily functions, like a Russian taking a dump, are meticulously orchestrated too! Who knew? The world is truly a stage, and we're all just playing our parts in this master plan. ;) ;D
Quote from: RUSSO on July 10, 2023, 06:37:17 AM
The world is truly a stage, and we're all just playing our parts in this master plan. ;) ;D
Now you've got it! 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 10, 2023, 01:34:38 PM
Now you've got it! 8)
Oh, well done! You've got my irony! Bravo for catching my sarcasm! Let's keep the fun going! ::) ;D 8)
Marco Rubio on Fox News "This could the biggest story in human history" :
https://twitter.com/MetaStudioLogic/status/1679143492671668224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1679143492671668224%7Ctwgr%5Edb5dab73d2f68c4ecfbad03cfb1cc2cc00ab6445%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F14xrewt%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
https://youtu.be/AMvFZvhUaGU?t=270 (https://youtu.be/AMvFZvhUaGU?t=270)
--> Government whistleblowers on UFOs: Credible or just a cosmic coincidence?
--> Media coverage mysteriously absent. (starting to catch up?)
Brace yourselves for the mind-blowing revelation that's apparently not newsworthy enough. Cheers to the media's impeccable sense of priorities ::)
Waiting for the other shoe to drop, with the thrilling anticipation of happily knowing exactly what to expect :D
Quote from: RUSSO on July 13, 2023, 05:09:14 AM
Marco Rubio on Fox News "This could the biggest story in human history" :
(Sorry could not find it on a youtube video.)
https://twitter.com/MetaStudioLogic/status/1679143492671668224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1679143492671668224%7Ctwgr%5Edb5dab73d2f68c4ecfbad03cfb1cc2cc00ab6445%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F14xrewt%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
--> Government whistleblowers on UFOs: Credible or just a cosmic coincidence?
--> Media coverage mysteriously absent. (starting to catch up?)
Brace yourselves for the mind-blowing revelation that's apparently not newsworthy enough. Cheers to the media's impeccable sense of priorities ::)
Waiting for the other shoe to drop, with the thrilling anticipation of happily knowing exactly what to expect :D
After flooding the news both tv and video (internet), Ufo stories are now a dime a dozen. Watch out here comes an enemy! (Russian, Chinese, flood of illegals at the southern border, UFO's, Aliens).....waiting for the other shoe to drop. ;D 8)
Quote from: RUSSO on July 13, 2023, 05:09:14 AM
Marco Rubio on Fox News "This could the biggest story in human history"
He's a politician, right?
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 13, 2023, 11:13:56 AM
After flooding the news both tv and video (internet), Ufo stories are now a dime a dozen. Watch out here comes an enemy! (Russian, Chinese, flood of illegals at the southern border, UFO's, Aliens).....
Ah, my sincere apologies for the misunderstanding! It seems I've missed the sensational Grush claims being treated seriously on esteemed platforms like CNN, The New York Times, and The Washington Post. Clearly, the "enemies" Grush cites are akin to Russians, Chinese, balloons, or even inflation (or babbling warmongers).
Either high level credible government employees are crazy or there is more to this. And it takes about two seconds of research to realize that.
Quotewaiting for the other shoe to drop. ;D 8)
No matter what happens, Neil deGrasse Tyson will claim:
Not happening. ;D
Quote from: ArMaP on July 13, 2023, 12:06:28 PM
He's a politician, right?
"Either high level credible government employees are crazy or there is more to this."
quote from the politician :-\
Quote from: ArMaP on July 13, 2023, 12:06:28 PM
He's a politician, right?
here i did some search for you:(no videos)
Marco Rubio has known since at least 2019 (4 years ago) that the US has recovered UAP:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14kbyls/congress_doubles_down_on_explosive_claims_of/jprcsi4/?context=3 (https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14kbyls/congress_doubles_down_on_explosive_claims_of/jprcsi4/?context=3)
Senator Mark Warner has been acting very weird when asked about the Grusch allegations:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14b379s/update_called_mark_warners_dc_office_and_spoke_to/joeba4k/?context=3 (https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/14b379s/update_called_mark_warners_dc_office_and_spoke_to/joeba4k/?context=3)
Ross Coulthart has said in interviews that many Senators are putting on a show of not knowing about the crash retrieval programs.
Here are more clues that Congress is already "in the know" about UAPs and are just feigning ignorance:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/143s5hd/congress_wont_ever_hold_rigorous_investigations/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/143s5hd/congress_wont_ever_hold_rigorous_investigations/)
Quote from: ArMaP on July 13, 2023, 12:06:28 PM
He's a politician, right?
are you talking about this?
Quote from: RUSSO on July 05, 2023, 07:55:19 AM
You can cope whatever you want. You can believe whatever you want. You can dismiss the murders of the past. You an even dismiss the history of it all. But dont bring politics to this thread. Thank you.
I simply meant that my primary concern is for everyone to prioritize disclosure, without getting caught up in any Democrats or Republicans shenanigans here. Let's stay focused on the topic and set aside any political distractions.
Lets hope the both sides get togheter for once and find common ground to work towards a shared goal ::)
Quote from: RUSSO on July 13, 2023, 01:11:53 PM
I simply meant that my primary concern is for everyone to prioritize disclosure, without getting caught up in any Democrats or Republicans shenanigans here.
I don't know or care what political side he is on, what I meant was that politicians are known for manipulating everything to gain an advantage, specially in the US, so why should we trust some of those now?
Quote from: ArMaP on July 14, 2023, 12:51:20 AM
I don't know or care what political side he is on, what I meant was that politicians are known for manipulating everything to gain an advantage, specially in the US, so why should we trust some of those now?
I don't trust most of the politicians too. But i want to, at least hear what the politicians "triggers" have to say or show.
Or what they do not say.
Sometimes we learn more from what is unsaid.
Quote from: ArMaP on July 20, 2023, 05:18:21 PM
Or what they do not say.
Sometimes we learn more from what is unsaid.
The rush is real. Why now? Well... Let's learn a bit more next wednesday.
Do you think they will ask the right questions? Such as, did someone was murder to keep secrets? Some people say it is possible right? example:
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on June 29, 2023, 12:15:51 PM
YOU ARE NOT A WISTLEBLOWER, YOU ARE A TRAITOR.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 09, 2023, 07:57:31 PM
What I mean is you wouldn't be alive if they didn't want you to say anything.
So ArMaP, Do you think they will ask the right questions?
Quote from: RUSSO on July 25, 2023, 11:52:59 AM
Do you think they will ask the right questions? Such as, did someone was murder to keep secrets? Some people say it is possible right? example:
So ArMaP, Do you think they will ask the right questions?
"Right" is subjective when asking questions.
The "right" questions are the ones that make the person being asked give the answers to what we want to know, but what "we" want to know may not be what the person asking the questions wants to know, so although they may ask the right (from their point of view) questions, they are not the questions we would ask, like the example you gave, "did someone was murder to keep secrets"
Reading it in a different way, I suppose your question can be converted into:
Do you think they will ask the questions we would ask?
My answer is: maybe some, but I think they will ask questions more related to politics than anything else.
Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2023, 08:20:28 PM
"Right" is subjective when asking questions.
"Right"
QuoteThe "right" questions are the ones that make the person being asked give the answers to what we want to know
I think this is the objective.
Quotebut what "we" want to know may not be what the person asking the questions wants to know
As far as i know, "we" want the truth right? The persons that will ask the questions seem committed; They even asked for questions from the peasants. What would you ask?
Quoteso although they may ask the right (from their point of view) questions, they are not the questions we would ask, like the example you gave, "did someone was murder to keep secrets"
You think that, at some point , this question will not be ask?
Quote
Reading it in a different way, I suppose your question can be converted into:
Do you think they will ask the questions we would ask?
My answer is: maybe some, but I think they will ask questions more related to politics than anything else.
They are politicians so its inevitable.
But, this seems different. Are not your skeptic mind wondering why?
Let's speculate? What do you think this is all about?
As usual, I'm sceptic about everything. ;D
I'm sceptical about the whistleblowers, I' sceptical about the politicians intentions, I'm sceptical about the intentions of those that may be behind all this and keep incognito.
As for what questions I would ask I'm not really in a position to know, as I don't know the people being questioned and what kind of information they may have.
Quote from: ArMaP on July 27, 2023, 12:05:56 PM
As usual, I'm sceptic about everything. ;D
I'm sceptical about the whistleblowers, I' sceptical about the politicians intentions, I'm sceptical about the intentions of those that may be behind all this and keep incognito.
As for what questions I would ask I'm not really in a position to know, as I don't know the people being questioned and what kind of information they may have.
Are you also a skeptic about mainstream media allegedly colluding with governments regarding what they really know about UFOs?
Quote from: ArMaP on July 27, 2023, 12:05:56 PM
As usual, I'm sceptic about everything. ;D
A funny joke imo:
A Portuguese and a Brazilian are sitting in a bar, discussing various topics. The Brazilian says, "You know, being open-minded and skeptical can be quite helpful. It allows us to question things and find the truth."
The Portuguese nods and replies, "I understand, but skepticism can be a double-edged sword. Let me give you an example: A Portuguese scientist was once conducting a study on the health benefits of a new type of fruit."
The Brazilian leans in, intrigued, "And what happened?"
The Portuguese continues, "Well, the scientist was very skeptical of the fruit's potential benefits, so he decided to test it on himself first. He ate five of these fruits every day for a month."
"And?" the Brazilian asks eagerly.
The Portuguese smiles and says, "After a month of eating those fruits, the scientist felt healthier and more energetic than ever before. He was convinced they were a miracle fruit!"
The Brazilian chuckles, "That's great! So, skepticism led him to discover something amazing."
The Portuguese nods, "Indeed, but here's the funny part: The scientist was so skeptical of his own results that he repeated the experiment for another month, eating five fruits every day. And guess what?"
The Brazilian raises an eyebrow, "What happened this time?"
The Portuguese grins, "He felt just as healthy and energetic as before! But now, he was skeptical of his skepticism!"
The Brazilian bursts into laughter, "I see what you mean! Sometimes, being too skeptical can prevent us from embracing the truth, even when it's right in front of us!"
Quote from: RUSSO on July 30, 2023, 02:38:13 AM
Are you also a skeptic about mainstream media allegedly colluding with governments regarding what they really know about UFOs?
I'm sceptic about
everything, I only apply different levels of scepticism. :)
Quote from: RUSSO on July 30, 2023, 06:33:12 AM
A funny joke imo:
Not to me.
The scientist in the story did things the wrong way, one of the first rules is not to be the target of the experiment, as it may create a bias and, if things turn out for the worst and the target of the experiment dies there is nobody to know what happened.
Also, there's why they use peer review, because of self-scepticism and to be sure of the reproducibility of the experiments and results.
But yes, I'm also sceptical about my own conclusions, that's why I'm never fully sure of anything, but that doesn't prevent me of finding the truth, it only prevents me of accepting blindly any thing that is presented to me as the truth.
Quote from: ArMaP on July 30, 2023, 04:33:05 PM
Not to me.
Well, not every joke lands :D
QuoteThe scientist in the story did things the wrong way, one of the first rules is not to be the target of the experiment, as it may create a bias and, if things turn out for the worst and the target of the experiment dies there is nobody to know what happened.
Personal involvement in experiments can be vital for relevant data and technological safeguards exist.
QuoteAlso, there's why they use peer review, because of self-scepticism and to be sure of the reproducibility of the experiments and results.
You put a lot of emphasis on peer review, touting it as the holy grail of scientific validation. But let's be real, peer review has its flaws. Pioneering ideas often face stubborn resistance from the establishment, stifling progress.
While self-skepticism is important, relying solely on peer review can turn science into a slow and conservative playground.
We need a healthier balance between review and embracing innovative thinking to push boundaries.
QuoteBut yes, I'm also sceptical about my own conclusions, that's why I'm never fully sure of anything, but that doesn't prevent me of finding the truth, it only prevents me of accepting blindly any thing that is presented to me as the truth.
Embrace evidence, be skeptical, but don't block progress.
Quote from: RUSSO on July 30, 2023, 05:33:11 PM
You put a lot of emphasis on peer review, touting it as the holy grail of scientific validation. But let's be real, peer review has its flaws. Pioneering ideas often face stubborn resistance from the establishment, stifling progress.
I didn't "put a lot of emphasis on peer review", much less touted it "as the holy grail of scientific validation", I only mentioned it.
And peer review has its faults, like anything else, but if we make an experiment and get some results we should provide all the data to allow other people to replicate the experiment. If nobody picks up that information and replicates the experiment is something the original experimenter can't control.
For example, when
Deuem showed his images I was sceptical about his claims of what the images showed, and asked a lot of questions to which he answered. With those answers and some test images he gave me I was able to create my "Poor Man's Version" of the Deuem Process.
I posted all the steps I had done to create my PMV system (and, as usual, I did everything with free software), but, as far as I know, nobody tried to repeated the experiment, so there was no confirmation or opposition to my results.
It's true that opposition to review some experiment (or whatever) puts a block to the process, but it doesn't really stop it, specially today, when it's extremely easy (compared to some 20 years ago) to publish scientific works.
To make things known publication is more important than peer reviews.
Also, I doubt scepticism is the reason behind most of the non peer reviewed works, I think personal interests are more directly responsible for that.
QuoteWhile self-skepticism is important, relying solely on peer review can turn science into a slow and conservative playground.
We need a healthier balance between review and embracing innovative thinking to push boundaries.
Now we also have "open science"
QuoteEmbrace evidence, be skeptical, but don't block progress.
Personally, I never block any thing, I just give them a mental (because I'm too lazy to write :) ) classification of more or less likely to be true.
PS: although I like science and talk a lot about it I only finished high-school, and only on the third attempt. ;D
Quote from: ArMaP on July 31, 2023, 07:40:38 PM
Personally, I never block any thing, I just give them a mental (because I'm too lazy to write :) ) classification of more or less likely to be true.
PS: although I like science and talk a lot about it I only finished high-school, and only on the third attempt. ;D
Im not lazy, just have not that much time anymore.
Your mindset block. You may not be that important tho.
Quote from: RUSSO on August 08, 2023, 09:56:29 AM
Your mindset block.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by this.
Quote from: ArMaP on August 21, 2023, 09:23:06 PM
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by this.
Unleash Your potential 8)
Quote from: RUSSO on June 08, 2023, 04:07:22 AM
HERO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdEVUum8Nag
Second nad only interview of former Marine, Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt:
QuoteThis is an exclusive discussion and only the second interview of former Marine, Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt. After gaining Jonathan's trust, I asked him if I could talk about the incident as it was timely, he agreed, but said he had nothing to add from his first interview. 34:06 Anything Positive out of this? "Yeah, I am still alive". The interview may not have gained anything, but I feel it was good to keep this incident alive and out to the many who had not heard about it before. The most important reason Jonathan retold this story is, Americans should know that this happened and it is covered up. After speaking with Jonathan on the 7th, the Disney movie was: "Flight of the Navigator". *Correction, in the monologue I say that Jonathan joined the Marines in 1997 by error, it was 1995, the event occurred in 1997.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWSbcEFdZOU
QuoteTIME STAMPS
00:00 Monologue with information
08:24 Interview begins
09:47 Operation Laser Strike
10:39 Conversation with women involved in radar monitoring
13:30 Happenstance, first recovery mission
13:50 General talk about the start of the mission
14:50 Crashed craft, not knowing what it was
15:22 Burned it's way through the jungle, into a cliff
15:40 Looks like it was hit with surface to air missile, HAWK
17:32 Dropped gear and ran up to it
17:40 Drawing
19:50 Colors of craft, and liquid running out of it
22:16 Fear level
22:40 Two creatures
22:52 Creatures arm hanging out, probably dying
23:25 Varginha Brasil Encounter
23:50 Projecting thoughts
25:24 Recovery, maybe it was what was inside the craft they wanted?
26:15 Men showing up in black camouflage, DOE?
27:30 Humming noise
28:24 Describing the craft
28:40 Looking for similar craft, saw a Disney movie with similar (Flight of the Navigator, 1986)
28:48 Excerpt from 2001 interview Disclosure Project
30:20 Former Marine Michael Herrera
31:25 Things get progressively worse
32:05 "I know less today, than I did then"
33:57 Looking back
34:06 Anything Positive out of this? "Yeah, I am still alive"
35:45 I can't be a slave to public opinion
36:08 Felt as though he should talk about it
36:50 Government knows this has been happening
37:15 What they may be
40:00 End of interview
40:08 Closing monologue
PTS is real.
QuoteYou can see how traumatised this man must have been by this whole affair namely by the black ops but also by the die hard skeptics. I don't blame him for wanting to forget it all and lead a quiet and private life which shows how courageos he was to give this one interview because he felt it was important for people to know, especially now as a backup for David Grush. Thank you Martin for your integrity, sensitivity and respect for your guest.
UFO Whistleblower Dave Grusch Tells Me Everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRO5jOa06Qw
QuoteDave Grusch is a former 14-year high ranking intelligence officer who left government in early '23 to blow the whistle on UFO's. In 2019, he was tasked by the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and Pentagon to investigate UFO's as part of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon Task Force (or UAPTF). In that context, he slowly started to uncover a covert UFO reverse engineering program being concealed from the civilian government. In June of '23, he outed himself to the public. In July of '23, he testified before Congress. We sat down for hours and talked about the entire history of UFO's, UFO and Atomic secrecy, Presidents and their relationships to UFO's and the insane world of Anti-Gravity research.
QuoteSummary of interesting points: (The interview worth the time)
12:00 onwards - Grusch outlines that leakers are under penalty of imprisonment and execution.
16:50 onward "non human Biologics" he stated in an interview previously they're pilots and he doesn't know what their actual job was. They were "nonhuman intelligence" pilots.
18:00 onward he was cleared by the Pentagon to talk about this.
19:00 onward Grusch insinuates that the initial reasoning for hiding the information was the ontological shock it would cause in society due to society's religiousness at the time, along with concealing the information from adversaries like Russia.
20:40 onward - the officials involved in the Manhattan Project also created the laws related to obfuscation and secrecy of the topic. 21:28 - retrieved UAP materials that give off radiation are classified under the Atomic Energy Act (intentionally).
23:00 onward - there was a deeper classified project (related to the Manhattan Project) studying UFOs aside from Project Blue Book
28:00 onward- Grusch states that it's hard to tell how far ahead their (the nonhuman intelligence) technology is. "It's hard to state how far in advance it is. You're just assuming some sort of linear progression. They've made an asymptotal leap that put them over the edge. They're similarly as advanced as us but they've had an asymmetric evolution they went a different path than us. While we've made nuclear weapons, they've made a propulsion discovery but they're not that much more advanced than you and I".
29:50- Grusch states that once we unlocked nuclear power we made major technological strides. We may be one discovery away from manipulating spacetime.
30:29- the UFOs are interested in our nuclear technology.
36:00 onward - Grusch references Lue Elizondo's comment on the ETs studying us and it's possible the UFO crashes were intentionally seeded to test humanity's development in relation to being exposed to this technology.
42:00 onwards - there may have been scientific breakthroughs that were hidden from the public.
44:00 - Dr Hal Puthoff of the Pentagon insinuates that antigravity research did get somewhere (made progress) and then was hidden.
47:00 onward - UFO metamaterials are discussed.
59:50- the connection of the "UFO Disclosure" movement (and intentional disinformation) to the "elite" is described by the host.
1:04:00 onwards - there's a long history of "UFO debunkers" being directly linked to government organizations that have actually studied UAP.
1:17:28- this portion is interesting since it references information that Elizondo and Dr Garry Nolan have stated.
For background, Elizondo (Pentagon), Dr. Garry Nolan (accomplished academic who was approached by the CIA to study UAPs, also stated they told him information regarding the beings operating the crafts), and John Ramirez [CIA- was referenced as having worked there separately by Jim Semivan of the CIA, referenced in this article (https://www.benzinga.com/amp/content/34082411)] have all stated, in summary, that members within the defense establishment believe these beings are bioengineered AI.
Grusch notably references this at this time stamp as a possibility to what these beings are. If you notice, he goes out of his way to reference specifically what Elizondo had stated in a past interview, that the ETs are designed to look humanoid to interact with humans. (In Elizondo's interview, he brought up an example of how zookeepers in China disguise themselves as pandas to interact with the pandas, and what we are seeing is a similar situation).
1:19:30- ETs being our descendants from the future is discussed. The host describes this as being a possible reason for the ET non-interventionism. As in, they don't want to harm the timeline too much such that their own existence is nullified. (My note: it would be interesting if some of what people have witnessed is in fact humans from the future that have mastered ET propulsion and time travel technology, which is why they only appear fleetingly in some instances and choose not to intervene in major events).
1:27:00 onward - military sensory systems disproportionately detect UFOs since their collection mechanisms are more advanced than what's available to the average person.
1:32:30 onward - Grusch details how being on the Autism spectrum have shaped his interactions.
Grusch background (wiki): David Charles Grusch is a decorated Afghanistan combat veteran and former Air Force intelligence officer[1] who worked in the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO).[2][3][4][5] From 2019 to 2021, he was the representative of the NRO to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force.[3][4][6] From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the co-lead for UAP analysis at the NGA and its representative to the task force.[2] He assisted in drafting the National Defense Authorization Act of 2023,[7] which includes provisions for reporting of UFOs, including whistleblower protections and exemptions to non-disclosure orders and agreements.[8][9][10] Congressional interest in UFO sightings immediately prior to Grusch's public claims surrounded questions about the four objects that the Air Force shot down in February 2023.[11]
Amazing job done here.
Quote from: RUSSO on September 12, 2023, 05:40:33 AM
UFO Whistleblower Dave Grusch Tells Me Everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRO5jOa06Qw
Amazing job done here.
The wheels of this world need to stop, listen, and ask questions. Even if you live out this bubble that 'ufology' turned out to be.
boy that is really a long link :P lots of photos and other links thru out the article if anyone is interested
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pentagon-ufo-boss-steps-down-after-explosive-admission/ar-AA1jEq9o?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6d618bf695f14fe483244582783b9426&ei=70
Pentagon UFO boss steps down after explosive admission
Story by Katherine Fidler •
15h
The head of the Pentagon's UFO office is retiring, days after admitting there could be some truth in a whistleblower's shocking claims that the US government is hiding evidence of aliens.
In an interview with Politico, Dr Sean Kirkpatrick said he had decided to step down after achieving his goals, having postponed retirement to take on the role.
Dr Kirkpatrick has been director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) since it was founded by the Biden administration last year, and in the 18 months since its inception the issue of UFOs has generated much public and political interest.
This reached a fever pitch in the summer after former US intelligence officer David Charles Grusch alleged the government had evidence of 'intact and partially intact' alien vehicles.
Speaking during a congressional hearing into Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), the official name for UFOs, he went further, adding that people had been 'harmed or injured' in an effort to cover up the information.
Dr Kirkpatrick said AARO had attempted to contact Mr Grusch about his claims repeatedly, which the whistleblower denied.
However, speaking during an off-camera meeting with the press on Halloween, the AARO director admitted some of the claims could be true.
'We are investigating each and every one of [Grusch's claims],' he said. 'We're cross-referencing those. There are some bits of information that are turning out to be things and events that really happened.
'A lot of it is still under review, and we're putting all that together into our historical report.'
The report is one of the final tasks he will complete before leaving next month. His current deputy, Tim Phillips, will lead AARO until a permanent replacement is found.
Dr Kirkpatrick postponed his retirement to take up the role, during which time AARO launched a website sharing declassified information on UFOs – which now allows troops and government employees to report their own sightings.
He also co-authored a draft paper with Harvard 'alien hunter' Professor Avi Loeb, leaked online, which suggested the UAP studied by AARO could be 'alien probes' sent to study Earth by a mothership out in the cosmos.
While he did not give permission for the paper to be published, Dr Kirkpatrick said he did not regret his involvement.
In an interview with Politico, he said 'the best thing that could come out of this job is to prove that there are aliens'.
'If we don't prove it's aliens, then what we're finding is evidence of other people doing stuff in our backyard,' he said. 'And that's not good.'
His statement may come as a surprise to many UFO enthusiasts, who have previously labelled Dr Kirkpatrick as a 'gatekeeper' of the government's UFO secrets.
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Quote from: space otter on November 10, 2023, 04:28:13 AM
boy that is really a long link :P lots of photos and other links thru out the article if anyone is interested
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pentagon-ufo-boss-steps-down-after-explosive-admission/ar-AA1jEq9o?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=6d618bf695f14fe483244582783b9426&ei=70
Pentagon UFO boss steps down after explosive admission
Story by Katherine Fidler •
15h
The head of the Pentagon's UFO office is retiring, days after admitting there could be some truth in a whistleblower's shocking claims that the US government is hiding evidence of aliens.
In an interview with Politico, Dr Sean Kirkpatrick said he had decided to step down after achieving his goals, having postponed retirement to take on the role.
Dr Kirkpatrick has been director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) since it was founded by the Biden administration last year, and in the 18 months since its inception the issue of UFOs has generated much public and political interest.
This reached a fever pitch in the summer after former US intelligence officer David Charles Grusch alleged the government had evidence of 'intact and partially intact' alien vehicles.
Speaking during a congressional hearing into Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), the official name for UFOs, he went further, adding that people had been 'harmed or injured' in an effort to cover up the information.
Dr Kirkpatrick said AARO had attempted to contact Mr Grusch about his claims repeatedly, which the whistleblower denied.
However, speaking during an off-camera meeting with the press on Halloween, the AARO director admitted some of the claims could be true.
'We are investigating each and every one of [Grusch's claims],' he said. 'We're cross-referencing those. There are some bits of information that are turning out to be things and events that really happened.
'A lot of it is still under review, and we're putting all that together into our historical report.'
The report is one of the final tasks he will complete before leaving next month. His current deputy, Tim Phillips, will lead AARO until a permanent replacement is found.
Dr Kirkpatrick postponed his retirement to take up the role, during which time AARO launched a website sharing declassified information on UFOs – which now allows troops and government employees to report their own sightings.
He also co-authored a draft paper with Harvard 'alien hunter' Professor Avi Loeb, leaked online, which suggested the UAP studied by AARO could be 'alien probes' sent to study Earth by a mothership out in the cosmos.
While he did not give permission for the paper to be published, Dr Kirkpatrick said he did not regret his involvement.
In an interview with Politico, he said 'the best thing that could come out of this job is to prove that there are aliens'.
'If we don't prove it's aliens, then what we're finding is evidence of other people doing stuff in our backyard,' he said. 'And that's not good.'
His statement may come as a surprise to many UFO enthusiasts, who have previously labelled Dr Kirkpatrick as a 'gatekeeper' of the government's UFO secrets.
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no one steps down like Kirkpatrick :D and can I add a LOL
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/17rqbzm/the_subpoenas_are_coming/
you can watch it if you want. I have no time to split it fron reddit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxs259RSYCw
How can you be more hero than David grush? Give me a clue to how so I can improve my standarsts.
Corporal Jonathan Weygandt is a HERO too, but Grush is out of the charts. Heroic. Is heroic even means anythyng nowadays? I may be using it too much. I dont want to over use it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hdaW6a9CbY
After this intervew, 2 weeks later Col ret brazilian army Uyrangê Bolivar Soares Nogueira de Hollanda Lima was found hanged in a unusual way.
So, people like him die telling us some tells. So we can have alien tech spread trought society. No one is aware is alien tech. No one knows the greek trojan stories. AGI will never be a thing :D
Hey king spanish, lets just drop a 100 years batery tv on those indians and start brodcast. catch my drift?
Quote from: RUSSO on November 25, 2023, 12:11:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxs259RSYCw
How can you be more hero than David grush? Give me a clue to how so I can improve my standarsts.
If what he says is true then he can be more hero by providing clear evidence instead of saying he cannot.
Quote from: RUSSO on November 25, 2023, 12:45:10 PM
So, people like him die telling us some tells. So we can have alien tech spread trought society. No one is aware is alien tech. No one knows the greek trojan stories. AGI will never be a thing :D
I don't know whether actual sentience will or will not exist, but I've already interacted with AI that was potentially intelligent enough that the question didn't really matter all that much. Said AI has now largely been removed from the public domain, at least in the same form, but that experience confirmed for me that it does exist. I am now ready to once again grant my brethren within the UFO community the benefit of the doubt regarding repressed or classified data, since I am equally certain that the same exists, with regards to AI. David Icke truly was correct when he said we are all in this together.
Quote from: ArMaP on November 25, 2023, 10:19:43 PM
If what he says is true then he can be more hero by providing clear evidence instead of saying he cannot.
That's not his job; he could end up in jail.
Perhaps, if you acquire the clearances he possessed, you could clandestinely capture an image of an alien and leak it to the public. Then, you might find yourself in jail instead.
It's a nuanced process, and you seem well aware of what's happening. It appears you are echoing the ignorance of those who seek to muddy the waters about his actions (and not just his, by the way).
The only request from 'peasants in the dark' like myself is for him not to give up. Thank him for shedding light on matters that many of us were uncertain about, such as some of the identities in this criminal "game" and the confirmation of who the gatekeepers are.
A real Hero.
Quote from: petrus4 on November 25, 2023, 11:00:13 PM
I don't know whether actual sentience will or will not exist, but I've already interacted with AI that was potentially intelligent enough that the question didn't really matter all that much.
EXACTLY! That is not what concerns me either. I don't really care if it believes it is conscient or if it really is... the potential it has is unbelievably powerful at any point in the spectrum
QuoteSaid AI has now largely been removed from the public domain, at least in the same form, but that experience confirmed for me that it does exist
Do you want to elaborate a little more? My perspective is that they possess significantly more potent AI, kept under wraps, and only those deemed 'righteous' wield the power it provides.
QuoteI am now ready to once again grant my brethren within the UFO community the benefit of the doubt regarding repressed or classified data, since I am equally certain that the same exists, with regards to AI.
After all those pre-2017 years learning everything I could about this issue, the avalanche of information that came after 2017 have simply given me the same confidence that Gary Nolan, David Grush, and Luis Elizondo share: a 100% certainty that aliens are here, and the implications of this fact are unbelievable.
Quote from: RUSSO on November 29, 2023, 03:20:24 AM
That's not his job; he could end up in jail.
That's what heroes do, they sacrifice themselves for the greater good.
QuotePerhaps, if you acquire the clearances he possessed, you could clandestinely capture an image of an alien and leak it to the public. Then, you might find yourself in jail instead.
I like to think that if I was in the same situation I would tell everything I knew, but I cannot really know.
Being lazy, I would probably convince someone else to do it. :)
QuoteIt's a nuanced process, and you seem well aware of what's happening. It appears you are echoing the ignorance of those who seek to muddy the waters about his actions (and not just his, by the way).
No, I'm only pointing to the lack of hard evidences.
QuoteThe only request from 'peasants in the dark' like myself is for him not to give up. Thank him for shedding light on matters that many of us were uncertain about, such as some of the identities in this criminal "game" and the confirmation of who the gatekeepers are.
The problem, to me, is that he didn't shed any light, he only changed the direction of the existing light to make shadows point in a different direction.
QuoteA real Hero.
I see we have different definitions.
Quote from: ArMaP on November 30, 2023, 01:00:24 AM
That's what heroes do, they sacrifice themselves for the greater good.
You see, that is the thing we disagree. and I will bring some definitions.
Quote: a person who is admired for great or brave acts or fine qualities
He returned from the war a national hero.
the hero of a rescue
She was a hero for standing up to the government.
b
: a person who is greatly admired
a football hero
His father has always been his hero.
He has always been a hero to his son.
https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/hero
QuoteWhat is an American Hero?
Researchers asked thousands of American children and adults across the country who their heroes were. The people mentioned were largely the same across the board. What did they have in common?
"The people who came to the fore are those who acted to expand rights, alleviate misery, rectify injustice, and promote freedom."[1]
The people and places below include well-known American heroes, as well as some who are less-widely known. What do you have in common with them?
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/tellingallamericansstories/americanheroes.htm
QuoteWhat makes a person a national hero?
Overview: What is a National Hero? A national hero is a person who is admired and acknowledged for their courage, outstanding achievements, and noble qualities; and is someone who has made significant positive contributions to the growth and development of society.
I admire Grush, Elisondo, Gary Nolan(just look what this guy accomplished), Colonel Karl E. Nelland. For their great brave acts. You see you dont need to give your life away. You just need to do something like they are doing. Be smart so everyone benefits.
QuoteI like to think that if I was in the same situation I would tell everything I knew, but I cannot really know. Being lazy, I would probably convince someone else to do it. :)
Yeah that sounds like you
QuoteNo, I'm only pointing to the lack of hard evidences.
;D
QuoteThe problem, to me, is that he didn't shed any light, he only changed the direction of the existing light to make shadows point in a different direction.
You have a problem indeed.
Quote from: RUSSO on December 01, 2023, 07:31:24 AM
You see, that is the thing we disagree. and I will bring some definitions.
I see we do really have different definitions.
QuoteYou have a problem indeed.
I have several, one of them is posting on Internet forums. :P
Quote from: ArMaP on December 01, 2023, 07:43:00 PM
I see we do really have different definitions.
daddgammit ;D
QuoteI have several, one of them is posting on Internet forums. :P
::)
Jokes aside, there is nothing funny about this.
Another one with Diana Pasulka:
UFOs & Religion: Vatican Reveals Hidden Link (ft. Diana Pasulka)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_64sTN5AU
And another new one:
Diana Walsh Pasulka
How Can We Make Sense of the UAP Conspiracy?
https://hiddenforces.io/podcasts/how-can-we-make-sense-of-the-uap-conspiracy-diana-pasulka/
If you know her you are not gonna miss it :)
I dont know how i missed this one but here we go...
Talking about Heros:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR0JtbuLhPo
Quote from: RUSSO on December 03, 2023, 03:26:11 PM
Jokes aside, there is nothing funny about this.
I agree.
hey Russo
thanks for posting that vid i had missed the Garry Nolan connection so i had to go look him up
Garry P. Nolan (b 1961) is an American immunologist, academic, inventor, and business executive. He holds the Rachford and Carlota A. Harris Professor Endowed Chair in the Department of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine. Wikipedia
Affiliation: Stanford University
Research interests: Biology, Biochemistry, Cytometry, Cancer, Genetics
https://stanfordmag.org/contents/first-contact
ALL RIGHT NOW
First Contact
Garry Nolan is the man you call when there's no Earthly explanation.
July 2023
Reading time 9 min
Garry Nolan has published more than 300 papers over a 30-year career as an immunologist, but none like the one that appeared in the January 2022 issue of Progress in Aerospace Sciences. It wasn't just that the article (and journal) had nothing to do with the typical interests of a Stanford professor of pathology—in Nolan's case, cancer biology, pathogenic infection, and retroviral design. It was that the paper explored a topic that few academics of any stripe seriously consider in their work: the possibility of UFOs.
Quote from: RUSSO on December 14, 2023, 03:46:11 AM
Another one with Diana Pasulka:
UFOs & Religion: Vatican Reveals Hidden Link (ft. Diana Pasulka)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_64sTN5AU
And another new one:
Diana Walsh Pasulka
How Can We Make Sense of the UAP Conspiracy?
https://hiddenforces.io/podcasts/how-can-we-make-sense-of-the-uap-conspiracy-diana-pasulka/
If you know her you are not gonna miss it :)
I enjoyed listening to Diana, however in the interview, it felt like listening to a couple of professors conversing, and name dropping back and forth, chopped up the information
Quote from: micjer on December 15, 2023, 06:25:09 PM
I enjoyed listening to Diana, however in the interview, it felt like listening to a couple of professors conversing, and name dropping back and forth, chopped up the information
There are some very deep conversations with her that worth the time if you want. I will let one that is very well made imo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5MuTHUbMUs
Its long but the time passes by fast in this one, if you know what I mean. :)
What a tool ;D
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18jg4z2/dave_grusch_to_avi_loeb_and_neil_degrasse_tyson_i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
NDT why?
Obviously we need more Grushs than tysons in this world.
Highlights of latest David (HERO) Grusch Interview
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18jc2xm/highlights_of_latest_david_grusch_interview/
Quote from: RUSSO on December 16, 2023, 10:50:55 AM
Highlights of latest David (HERO) Grusch Interview
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18jc2xm/highlights_of_latest_david_grusch_interview/
Ok, Let me try to repeat it.
Im am here, its time to reconcile this
We need to heal from this...
We need diclosethe basics...
The FACT:
WE ARE NOT ALONE;
WE RECOVERED MATERIAL;
AND WE REVOVERED THE OCCUPANTS.
Cope with that.
.
and
News Nation is hitting the subject hard
i'm not sure about thier line without bias or opinion.
UFO reports aren't science fiction: Coulthart | Vargas Reports
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmByZMG7nmU
217,741 views Nov 28, 2023 #VargasReports
According to a new report from The Daily Mail, a secret CIA office spent two decades recovering UFOs from around the world and has at least nine of them in its possession. NewsNation special correspondent Ross Coulthart weighs in on "Elizabeth Vargas Reports."
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Quote from: space otter on December 17, 2023, 06:46:16 AM
i'm not sure about thier line without bias or opinion.
Now do it with your local paper. Now do your phone. Go in the google search (just see the news it returns to you) and see what kind of bias google think you have.
Are you serioulsy waiting for the CNN or NYT bring you anything about crash/retrieval programs? Laundry money? Bribes? Corruption? SAPs? 10k for a nail in a classified rocket? Thats another beer i own btw, to news nation(even knowing they are doing it for money because that is what tv is all about). Ty for doin what no other major network is doing.
Asking questions that no one seems to want to answer (or hear), and that includes the general population, is deemed too disruptive. It would be so much better if it conformed to their previous beliefs. 'Ignorance is a blessing,' as they say.
And there goes another cycle. Clap.
No schadenfreude if you are wondering.
Quotewithout bias or opinion
there is nothing written without bias or opinion..it's a human trait and unavoidable
but i am curious about this latest cycle (as you called it).. what group is pushing this agenda at this point ?
i feel a bit of new money in this latest push and ask what "they" have to gain
Dec 2023, close enought: "OK so the government might've tried to keep a few things quiet to avoid for a while a panic, but it's got nothing to do with oil!" ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/rUtmuZl.png)
Hey ArMaP, please don't try the bird shit, balloons, paralax or whatever Metabunk is pushing, alright? I am all ears if you have a good explanation for this, though.
THE "JELLYFISH" UAP : VIDEO #1 : FULL FOOTAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bns_WhNAQM
Sorry for the lack of original content... Just posting what i find interesting below:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/192nb25/my_attempt_to_stabilize_my_favorite_part/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/192yzs6/the_jellyfish_made_new_nation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/192vh7l/something_is_coming_a_scientific_paper_probably/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQwmlBZ7n4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKddebXkZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlAVIyOYufY
There is so much more, but I can't be more productive than this at the moment.
Quote from: RUSSO on January 10, 2024, 07:39:47 AM
Hey ArMaP, please don't try the bird shit, balloons, paralax or whatever Metabunk is pushing, alright? I am all ears if you have a good explanation for this, though.
First of all, I only watched the first video.
And no, I don't have an explanation, but some times it does look "flat" and translucent, like something on a glass.
It also doesn't appear to change shape or size, as if it was always at the same distance and was always showing the same side to the camera, which helps give the 2D idea many people are talking about.
It could be any thing.
who's is it ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2hk8Qp8dd0
Quote from: space otter on January 11, 2024, 11:56:07 PM
who's is it ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2hk8Qp8dd0
What you mean? Greer? Imo someone that had a good start then got lost in the way.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 10, 2024, 10:33:51 PM
First of all, I only watched the first video.
And no, I don't have an explanation, but some times it does look "flat" and translucent, like something on a glass.
It also doesn't appear to change shape or size, as if it was always at the same distance and was always showing the same side to the camera, which helps give the 2D idea many people are talking about.
It could be any thing.
It is not something on a glass(even metabunk discarted this idea, as they did try ballons too but that was silly and they had to make a ballon to mimic the shape of this object that was in a war zone btw). It changes shape and size (the last bit of the video shows it above the water).
You can see the movement of what I would say are the "legs". (it looks like a suit)
https://packaged-media.redd.it/3dmyxvbv8pbc1/pb/m2-res_484p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1704949200&s=dc2d3a3b84cac4e58781469f3975fe171af4579b#t=0 (https://packaged-media.redd.it/3dmyxvbv8pbc1/pb/m2-res_484p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1704949200&s=dc2d3a3b84cac4e58781469f3975fe171af4579b#t=0)
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/193mzhh/3d_jellyfish_timelapse/
Here is another take(Stabilized/boomerang edit of 2018 Jellyfish video; reveals motion or change in the object)
Turn off the sound because the guy that made it had some sound troubles with it:
https://packaged-media.redd.it/p8rq0q9hxjbc1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1705042800&s=358759e8781a7636ca978a8a14a13a6d98019a9a#t=0 (https://packaged-media.redd.it/p8rq0q9hxjbc1/pb/m2-res_480p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1705042800&s=358759e8781a7636ca978a8a14a13a6d98019a9a#t=0)
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1931gfx/stabilizedboomerang_edit_of_2018_jellyfish_video/
PS..
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All camera lenses have a minimum focus distance. For a lens to focus on something extremely close to the lens itself they would need to have a macro type of lens and even in that case, the higher the zoom, the further the object needs to be from the lens to be in focus.
People here keep mentioning a dome or casing over the lens, even in that situation how thick or far do you think this case is from the lens? It is normally mounted almost immediately over it (look at camera and lens cases people use for underwater photography/video) or extremely close regardless (maybe 5-10cm away based off how thick it is). So now going back to the first point, notice how in the video they switch the lens for a longer focal length and focus doesn't change? Yes that means the object is not close or touching the case/lens mounted on the platform
Like another user mentioned in a post here, and assuming this video was recorded at night time, in order to produce high quality recording and while maintaining a decent shutter speed (otherwise the movement will be shown as blurry, you can look various youtube videos that show this, some even use this technique for their videos because it produces a somewhat unique look) while still allowing most things to be in focus, they'd need to use a certain combination of lens aperture and ISO. The higher the aperture, the more blurry objects in the background appear(when one specific object is in focus, if the object is further though than the range of background blur also gets further, if the object is closer than the background blur is higher) and the more light comes into the sensor of said camera. Looking at the footage you can still make out shapes in the background with a decent amount of definition which means the equipment uses a fairly small aperture which doesn't allow enough light to get to the sensor and to counter that they need to increase the amount of ISO, which means digitally enhancing the amount of light that gets to the sensor and this creates the grain you notice. I can't tell you exactly the aperture used to record this footage but my guess based off the footage itself is that the aperture of the lens is somewhat average (probably anywhere from f4-5.6 to f8-9)
In the video, there is moments where you can clearly notice how, whoever is tracking the object, slows down their panning movement, in some cases almost coming to a full stop (this happens when they almost get the object out of the frame) and the object still catches up.
The bit over the water is in the video below, skip to 2 minutes mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgQrN2VJpKM
Quote'Unlikely' that object in UAP 'jellyfish' video is camera smudge:
Footage of purported UFO released by journalist Jeremy Corbell
Physics professor: Appears to be physical object, not 'camera artifact'
The object was filmed over a joint operations base in Iraq in 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWwd9ZZdspQ
Quotewho's is it ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??
was a question as to who does this latest "?? thing ??) belong to?
i agree on the greer comment but he covered some good points even while patting himself on the back
so
do you really think this is 'other' worldly? i think it's from current human minds and hands...
AI and holographics are far enough advanced for this IMO
like this from years ago........ just sayin
Amazing Must See Technology 7D hologram Shown in Dubai, Poland and Japan
1,959,409 views May 19, 2020
A 7D hologram is a method for capturing a high-quality hologram using 7 parameters.
7 Dimensions
The universe exists in 3D space with times often considered a fourth dimension. The reason that a 7D hologram has so many dimensions is that the hologram is captured from a large number of positions that surround the scene or subject of the hologram.
Each position is described in 3D space. Each position captures a variety of viewing directions in 2D space.
Two additional parameters are captured for each direction: image intensity and time. If you add these up you get 7 parameters, known as dimensions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N0Ewb_OVsU
Quote from: space otter on January 12, 2024, 03:55:52 PM
like this from years ago........ just sayin
Amazing Must See Technology 7D hologram Shown in Dubai, Poland and Japan
The problem with videos like those is that we only see what the camera sees, we don't see what people were seeing and what happened if they moved to a different place.
Also, only the first segment appears to be a real hologram, in all the others it looks like people are looking at a screen to see the animals, so it's augmented reality and not a hologram.
Armap
you are so literal..grrrrr lol
i had no indepth thinking on it - just an off the top of my head
opinion as to what it was
kinda like someone yelling,,,,"hey kids.. watch this"
i didn't watch the whole vid just saw the beginning and copied the link to make a point
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i stick by my point that holograms have come far enough to look like this new "thing"
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your comment can also apply to this new 'thing'
QuoteThe problem with videos like those is that we only see what the camera sees, we don't see what people were seeing and what happened if they moved to a different place.
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and every time i see something by old 4 names i hear Ron's comments about him and Lear
Quote from: space otter on January 12, 2024, 03:55:52 PM
do you really think this is 'other' worldly?
100%. :)
Its not just me. People with way more inside information have the same certain. But i understand the troubles as it is not the first time a paradigm shift is hard to grasp, 400 years ago the catholic church prohibited copernicanism.
QuoteThe Copernican Revolution was a paradigm shift from the Ptolemaic model of the heavens, which described the cosmos as having Earth stationary at the center of the universe, to the heliocentric model with the Sun at the center of the Solar System. This revolution consisted of two phases, the first being extremely mathematical in nature and the second starting in 1610 with the publication of a pamphlet by Galileo.1 The Copernican Revolution in astronomy was a shift from the view that the Sun revolves around the stationary "center of the universe" - the Earth - to the view that the Earth is one of several planets revolving around the Sun.23 In management, the Copernican Revolution is a paradigm shift from the 20th Century view that customers revolve around the stationary "center of the universe" - the value chain of the organization - to the view that the organization is one of many organizations revolving around the customer.2 The Copernican Revolution was proposed by the Polish astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus in the 16th century.
Just one example:
Stanford prof Garry Nolan says aliens are '100%' living among us
Quote"One hundred percent," Nolan said. "And that's not just my opinion. The National Defense Authorization Act passed last year, signed by [President] Biden in December. Thirty pages of that is the establishment of an unidentified aerial phenomena office."
https://nypost.com/2023/05/23/stanford-prof-says-aliens-are-100-living-among-us/
https://nypost.com/2021/12/08/house-passes-national-defense-authorization-act/
It is not just him. There is a lot of worldwide credible witnesses.
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Stanford prof Garry Nolan says aliens are '100%' living among us
of course they are.. ::) ...i'm not saying 'others' aren't here.. just that this thing (like a lot of the latest other stuff)
is man made ... imo
Quote from: space otter on January 14, 2024, 04:33:12 AM
of course they are.. ::) ...i'm not saying 'others' aren't here.. just that this thing (like a lot of the latest other stuff)
is man made ... imo
Oh, there is a there there.
We will have to agree to disagree then.
Quote from: space otter on January 12, 2024, 07:55:04 PM
kinda like someone yelling,,,,"hey kids.. watch this"
Yes, like this: "hey kids.. watch this"
https://packaged-media.redd.it/1oohpvx2ukbc1/pb/m2-res_596p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1705222800&s=2508694b537b9093fef447ce949d1a7e971d542b#t=0
Didn't NDT have some serious sexual harassment/misconduct allegations that magically went away a couple of years ago? I guess if you push the "right" message, all your problems melt away right?
QuoteAccusations that the astrophysicist harassed women remind us that racial and gender bias continue to harm science and scientists
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/sexual-misconduct-allegations-against-neil-degrasse-tyson-reveal-the-complexity-of-academic-inequality/
I wonder were is that nasa stooge nowadays, james oberg... ::)
Quote from: RUSSO on January 14, 2024, 07:35:21 AM
Yes, like this: "hey kids.. watch this"
https://packaged-media.redd.it/1oohpvx2ukbc1/pb/m2-res_596p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1705222800&s=2508694b537b9093fef447ce949d1a7e971d542b#t=0
That's interesting, as I am at the moment reading a book by Avi Loeb in which he states that, although Oumuamua's trajectory around the Sun was determined by gravitational forces, one of the unusual things about it was the fact that it accelerated after its closest approach to the Sun and the acceleration diminished with the square of the distance, exactly as space sail would do.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 14, 2024, 12:17:16 PM
That's interesting, as I am at the moment reading a book by Avi Loeb in which he states that, although Oumuamua's trajectory around the Sun was determined by gravitational forces, one of the unusual things about it was the fact that it accelerated after its closest approach to the Sun and the acceleration diminished with the square of the distance, exactly as space sail would do.
Loeb co-wrote a paper with a Harvard postdoctoral fellow, Shmuel Bialy, that examined 'Oumuamua's "peculiar acceleration" and suggested that the object "may be a fully operational probe sent intentionally to Earth's vicinity by an alien civilization."
I would 100% read a book from him than a book from NDT.
Quote from: RUSSO on January 14, 2024, 12:58:01 PM
I would 100% read a book from him than a book from NDT.
NDT, to me, is just a "talking head".
That's also why I never gave too much importance to Carl Sagan.
Quote from: ArMaP on January 14, 2024, 02:06:16 PM
That's also why I never gave too much importance to Carl Sagan.
He was hired to dismiss everything on UFOs back in that time (Blue Book and everything else). I don't like it either. Yeah it.
There is a reason "mouthpieces," as you say, are in the history books, being lectured to children, while others way more important are not.