http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-26/1P391225438EFFBRCSP2589L5M2.JPG
Greetings and well met.
Seen in this photo from Mars Opportunity, 3 rings in the sand.
Hi tainted, glad to see you here. No trolls, YEA!!!!
Tainted sample knows a lot about the missions to Mars. I know his thread will be informative.
We go back several years and I asked him over through yet another site. We will be working on other members also. tainted how about E6 for one.
Good luck on your start up. The crew is friendly here...
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on May 27, 2012, 02:46:25 PM
Hi tainted, glad to see you here. No trolls, YEA!!!!
Tainted sample knows a lot about the missions to Mars. I know his thread will be informative.
We go back several years and I asked him over through yet another site. We will be working on other members also. tainted how about E6 for one.
Good luck on your start up. The crew is friendly here...
Deuem
Welcome, TS, its a nice place here!
Those rings appear to be formed either after the rover passed, or are actual physical objects that have settled into the landscape.
Is it possible they are two or three pieces of large metal circlips that popped off of the rover?
Interesting to say the least!
Cheers!
Littleenki
Welcome, TS!
Glad to see a well-versed "newbie." [smile] That photo is quite interesting! Wonder what created the circles - probably some part of the vehicle, since those are obviously it's tracks...
Welcome, taintedsample. :)
Those rings look like the marks from the RAT, the Rock Abrasion Tool the rovers carry to scrape the rock's surface to see how they really look like and take photos with the microscopic camera.
I guess that if we look for photos from the microscopic camera from that sol (or just before it) we will find the photos taken from those areas.
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 27, 2012, 05:40:14 PM
Welcome, TS!
Glad to see a well-versed "newbie." [smile] That photo is quite interesting! Wonder what created the circles - probably some part of the vehicle, since those are obviously it's tracks...
Thanks for the warm welcome and Hi Deuem!
I thought at first too that it was something off the rover, but if you look again you will see that the rover has run one of the rings over. The rings also look like they have some amount of dust accumulated so I am ruling a part flying off the rover out. There are many shots in the exploratorium of these images, I will see if I can get a good closeup.
Quote from: taintedsample on May 28, 2012, 01:45:33 AM
I thought at first too that it was something off the rover, but if you look again you will see that the rover has run one of the rings over. The rings also look like they have some amount of dust accumulated so I am ruling a part flying off the rover out. There are many shots in the exploratorium of these images, I will see if I can get a good closeup.
Another thing... They are NOT the same shape. So if it was something from the rover, it would have to be TWO things.
Hello taintedsample! it is good to have you here. I will be looking forward to your posts in the area of mars anomalies, as I also have a major interest in the story they have to tell us. I have posted several here, but have numerous others, some of the which I have never posted before anywhere.
One thing about the Rover photos, they are usually fairly high resolution, or, are at least high quality photos.
Do you have the Sol day for the anomaly you posted in this thread? That would help some of us take a look at other pics around that same time.
Well, for sure the "partial rings" do not look natural! Yes, they are close to the rover position, so, that could give us a clue. ArMaP, could be right about the "Rat Tool", although, he is usually "not right" when it comes to commenting on Mars anomalies, significant skeptic that he is!!!!! ;) ArMaP, I am really just kidding with you! ;D
RAT tool stuff has been posted elsewhere, and if I find it, I will post a pic here for comparison.
Again, thanks for the post!
Hi tainted, rather this is the Rat tool or another probe? It should be possible to get some sizes and compare them. It should be ruled out or in technically. If it had done the test then moved forward it would run the test over. Before I go there I would have to know a lot of camera data. Lens, focal lengths and so on. Good start,
Deuem
Quote from: rdunk on May 28, 2012, 04:22:00 AM
Do you have the Sol day for the anomaly you posted in this thread?
You can know the Sol by the name of the image.
This image is from Sol 2963 (http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_p2963.html). :)
Quote from: ArMaP on May 28, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
You can know the Sol by the name of the image.
This image is from Sol 2963 (http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_p2963.html). :)
I get all my images from the exploratorium.
Opportunity images: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/
Spirit images: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/spirit/
Filename readme (to figure out the SOL and time): http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/FILENAME-README
Here are links to the other similar images:
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-26/1P391225438EFFBRCSP2589L5M2.JPG
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-26/1P391225662EFFBRCSP2589R7M1.JPG
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-26/1P391225650EFFBRCSP2589R6M1.JPG
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-26/1P391225629EFFBRCSP2589R5M1.JPG
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-26/1P391225617EFFBRCSP2589R4M1.JPG
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-26/1P391225596EFFBRCSP2589R3M1.JPG
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-26/1P391225552EFFBRCSP2589R1M1.JPG
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2012-05-25/1P391225406EFFBRCSP2589L4M1.JPG
Hi tainted, I checked out the above list and it left me wondering, have you ever found a site with a step by step explanation of what is going on or just photos? Somebody must be keeping records. If so can you find any tech talk for this photo?
Also in some of the photos it looke to me that there was a fourth circle, close in. all 4 are in line. The 4th is very shallow and hard to see.
Deuem
Quote from: ArMaP on May 28, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
You can know the Sol by the name of the image.
This image is from Sol 2963 (http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_p2963.html). :)
Thanks for the info! However, I haven't the foggiest where in the name the sol day is. With one of your links, I guess you have to "figure it out"???
For most all of my Rover research, I use the NASA links, and with their links, the sol day is right in the link.
My link for these pics would be:
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_p2963.html
I have several "Rat Tool" pics with the abrasions, but nothing so far that are like these. the ring dia seems to look about the same size, which is about 2 inches in dia.
Unless the sand has partially covered the normal full circular appearance of the rat tool marks, then this must be something else. Besides, I think the Tool is used basically on rocks, and not on "sand".
Now they could have just dropped the arm with tool to the surface, three or four times, for whatever reason, like maybe just checking it out. Opportunity is getting pretty old!!
Also, hasn't Rover Opportunity just come out of winter hibernation again?? Seems like I saw something on that recently.
That's funny! After writing this, I did a quick search and found the article that fits with with what we are seeing in these pics (except for different sol days). They may just have "taken" the pics on sol day 2963. They in fact are using the robotic arm "in to investigate the chemical origin of the ubiquitous Martian dust". I will post post the article and the link for it.
http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Waking_Up_with_the_Suns_Rays_999.html
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Waking Up with the Sun's Rays
by Staff Writers
Pasadena CA (JPL) May 28, 2012
After moving from her winter perch, Opportunity drove to an undisturbed dusty patch to investigate the chemical origin of the ubiquitous Martian dust.
On Sol 2957 (May 19, 2012), the rover used her robotic arm to collect a Microscopic Imager (MI) mosaic of the surface target, called "North Pole." This was followed by an Alpha Particle X-ray Spectrometer (APXS) placement for a multi-sol integration.
On Sol 2960 (May 22, 2012), Opportunity repositioned the robotic arm instruments on an associated target for another set of Microscopic Imager mosaics followed by a placement of the APXS for a long measurement.
The plan ahead is to resume driving toward the north end of Cape York in search of more gypsum veins. The rover benefited from another small dust cleaning event, improving solar array energy production.
With the seasonally improving solar insolation and the recent dust clearing events, the rover is now experiencing solar array wake-ups, the autonomous rover wake-ups induced by bright morning sunlight.
As of Sol 2961 (May 23, 2012), solar array energy production was 395 watt-hours with an atmospheric opacity (Tau) of 0.387 and an improved solar array dust factor of 0.559.
Total odometry is 21.36 miles (34,380.58 meters).
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http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/navcam/2012-05-23/1N391049077EFFBRCQP1977R0M1.JPG
I think we can rule it out to RAT.
I was just about to post the same thing rdunk! Good find, also nice to see opportunity on the move again. I have some other anomalies to post from further back. I'll go through them and post the more interesting ones.
Quote from: taintedsample on May 28, 2012, 05:28:10 PM
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I was just about to post the same thing rdunk! Good find, also nice to see opportunity on the move again. I have some other anomalies to post from further back. I'll go through them and post the more interesting ones.
tainted sample, I am looking forward to seeing your other anomalies. Also, , when you have taken a look at some of the anomalies posted here, please comment on your thoughts about what you see!
One point, in my opinion all anomalies are interesting. An anomaly is an anomaly! In the real world of the search for proof of others, off Earth, the simplest of things can be specific indications of intelligent design. And the more simple anomalies found, the more the absolute proof of other civilized life.
There are many anomalies on Mars that strongly show (IMO) signs of intelligent design, and/or civilized life - even hard for us to believe type of life!
Quote from: taintedsample on May 28, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
I get all my images from the exploratorium.
I prefer the original source. :)
Quote from: rdunk on May 28, 2012, 05:18:55 PM
Thanks for the info! However, I haven't the foggiest where in the name the sol day is. With one of your links, I guess you have to "figure it out"???
The sol is not directly on the file name, it's in the characters from position 3 to position 1, in this case 391225438. That number is the number of seconds since January 1, 2000 at 11:58:55.816 UTC. In this case, 391225438 seconds is the same as 391225438/3600/24 = 4528 days. January 1, 2000 + 4528 days = May 25, 2012.
QuoteI have several "Rat Tool" pics with the abrasions, but nothing so far that are like these. the ring dia seems to look about the same size, which is about 2 inches in dia.
They have used it in this way several times, just to "take a look" at some places.
QuoteUnless the sand has partially covered the normal full circular appearance of the rat tool marks, then this must be something else. Besides, I think the Tool is used basically on rocks, and not on "sand".
The abrasion tool is used on rocks, but the arm doesn't have just the abrasion tool, it also has the microscopic camera, the Mössbauer spectrometer and the alpha particle x-ray spectrometer.
(http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2011-02-19/1P351187730EFFB1AXP2290L2M1.JPG)
Do we get a return on bottles? ;D
(source http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/pancam/2011-02-19/)
Well taintedsample, that is a good pic. but, maybe you could point out the piece(s) that might have a bottle look. I have enlarged it even more, and I am not able to see what you likely are describing. I do see two somewhat rounded features, one near the ridge, and one down to the mid right side. Maybe those are what you are referring to?
Besides that, I wouldn't know where to "return a bottle" anyway!!!
oh sorry, I'll add arrows and circles in the future. in the attachment, look all the way to the right. it looks like a vase laying on its side.
Yes, I now see what you are referring to. The object seems to be symmetric, and has what looks like a perfectly round and open "mouth, which faces the camera. Don't know what it is, but is does look anomalous.
Just for kicks, I certainly am no geologist, but I have seen too many areas of sand, like this one, in craters, to just outright accept it as "natural. Of course, they could be, but just look at this crater, and its sand. First off, sand generally should be mostly in the bottom of whatever it is in, because sand is generally loose, and responds to gravity, and wind. The sand here is not only on the bottom and on the mounded areas, it also is going fairly evenly up the side of the steep embankment/cliff-like area, nearly up to the top in a significant ares. See how it looks going across the side of the cliff, so even, as if it has been applied????
Also, one can see in this pic, that the "sands" are two different colors. The sand going up the hill is darker than the sand at the lower area, where we can see the two sands coming together. And if the sand were as loose as the "waves" make it appear, then the sand certainly would not cling significantly to a near vertical surface, as it does with some parts of the cliff.
Of course, don't know what "they might be trying to cover up anyway - maybe some more bottles, like this one!
Just my opinions, of course. ;)
Quote from: rdunk on May 29, 2012, 04:42:25 AM
The sand here is not only on the bottom and on the mounded areas, it also is going fairly evenly up the side of the steep embankment/cliff-like area, nearly up to the top in a significant ares. See how it looks going across the side of the cliff, so even, as if it has been applied????
That's probably because of the wind coming mostly from the opposite direction.
Sand can be blown upwards, that's how dunes are created.
Here is (false) colour version of that image.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/1P351187730EFFB1AXP2290L22BL52BL7M1.jpg) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/1P351187730EFFB1AXP2290L22BL52BL7M1.jpg)
(click for full size)
Hi, I did a blow up of your posted photo 1N138388241EFF2700P1994R0M1 log
In the upper right corner is a very bright object/reflection. It is almost at 255 white or blown out completely so it is very white. You will notice that there is a red block drawn around the object. This pixel disruption is often considered to be an indication of manipulation.
Original blown up from photo
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/logpxgp.jpg)
On many photos with bright lights I have been finding these squares and I am getting used to them as a pixel block that got over whelmed with light and not a GCI pasted block. In the second photo you can see where the darker lines run through the pixel block and maintain the integrity. They are high lighted in red.
Processed Pixel Block
(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/logpxgpreflect.jpg)
I bet if we can figure out the CCD on this camera and get the pixel block numbers of RGB groupings it should work out just right. It would also be good for sizing things. So how many RGB pixels make up a block with this camera? X by Y
In the photo we have a shadow running left to right and then it gets big at the end like it hit a mound of dirt. But the shadow did not change the light. It looks like the light is in front of the shadow. The object seems to have no shadow of its own; It is much taller or much closer than the rock on the left and look at the length of that shadow.
Is it a photo blemish or what?
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on May 30, 2012, 10:58:45 AM
In the upper right corner is a very bright object/reflection. It is almost at 255 white or blown out completely so it is very white. You will notice that there is a red block drawn around the object. This pixel disruption is often considered to be an indication of manipulation.
That bright object is part of the heat shield that protected the rover during the landing (or is it Marsing ;) ), and the dark area on the ground is the disturbed soil on the landing spot.
Those "pixel disruptions" are a result of the JPEG compression, it's more noticeable in highly compressed images and where there's a sharp difference in colour or brightness.
QuoteI bet if we can figure out the CCD on this camera and get the pixel block numbers of RGB groupings it should work out just right. It would also be good for sizing things. So how many RGB pixels make up a block with this camera? X by Y
No RGB on that camera, it's a greyscale camera with a filter wheel in front of it to let only some wavelengths pass to the camera. One of the filters is empty to allow for a real greyscale photo of the target.
The sensor is 1024 x 1024 pixels.
QuoteIn the photo we have a shadow running left to right and then it gets big at the end like it hit a mound of dirt. But the shadow did not change the light. It looks like the light is in front of the shadow. The object seems to have no shadow of its own; It is much taller or much closer than the rock on the left and look at the length of that shadow.
No shadow, it's dark soil, exposed by the landing.
If the sensor is 1024 sq then why are we getting oblong photos? are they cropping them?
Do you know why no shadow on the heat shield, I will have to revist this photo with your info in hand. You guys have been tracking this project from every angle.
Quoteand where there's a sharp difference in colour or brightness.
So do you agree on how it affects the camera? If it was all compression the entire photo should look this way. I only see this happen in high light areas. On this camera, even if it is gray scale, it shold have groups, no?
I need your help to figure this camera out so when I get to CAD I can scale it correctly.
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on May 30, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
If the sensor is 1024 sq then why are we getting oblong photos? are they cropping them?
Sometimes they have what they call "Sub-Frame" images, I think that's when they cannot get the whole image for some reason, but most photos are square, including photo 1N138388241EFF2700P1994R0M1, that you can see below in PNG format, without any compression artefacts. :)
(That's why I prefer the original sources :) )
Click for full size
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/1N138388241MRD2700P1994R0M1.png) (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/1N138388241MRD2700P1994R0M1.png)
QuoteDo you know why no shadow on the heat shield, I will have to revist this photo with your info in hand. You guys have been tracking this project from every angle.
Why should there be a shadow?
I forgot to say that most of that white area is sensor overload, as it wasn't it was too much light for it.
And yes, to some of us these photos are almost part of the family. :D
QuoteSo do you agree on how it affects the camera? If it was all compression the entire photo should look this way. I only see this happen in high light areas.
It doesn't affect the camera, it's a compression artefact, as the JPEG algorithm divides the images in 8 x 8 squares with which it works. When there's a sharp change in brightness or colour (JPEG also changes colours to achieve higher compression ratios) it's more noticeable.
QuoteOn this camera, even if it is gray scale, it shold have groups, no?
I don't understand what you mean by that, sorry.
QuoteI need your help to figure this camera out so when I get to CAD I can scale it correctly.
Scale what?
PS: Looking better at this photo, I don't think that's the place where the Rover landed, but just some place where part of the shield fell.
X marks the spot
(pointing it out in the attachment)
(http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opportunity/navcam/2011-03-22/1N353934925EFFB1JOP1757R0M1.JPG)
Well tainted, the feature inside your attachment box is interesting! What do you think it is??
Whatever it is, it seems to be supported by a structural piece behind it, that has two "attach arms", to hold it in position. There also seems to be some type of "white feature directly behind it. Of course, size of the features are anyones's guess as well.
Now, I did mention in a prior reply that I thought the sand dunes might be applied. Well, with the pic you gave us here, with the "boxed" attachment, there seems to possibly be some proof of that.
I am posting another attachment, from your pic, which shows your "box", and just above it, I have "ringed" a part of the dune, where one can see a "white object" just under the surface of the "supposedly sand". The white object is not hard to see, and it is perfectly oval in shape, with a couple of surface features near the right side of it. I do wonder what else might be "hidden" here?????
Hi tainted, will also look at both photos and see what is up
Rdunk, yours also.
ArMap, to scale the entire photo to real size.
Tainted, I know this is a little off topic but you have seen some of my math work ups before and TLM ( the living moon ) has not. I work with photo planes. If I know the camera focal length I can figure out how big the picture is if I have 1 known or guess at 1 object. Compare this photo to other knows such a topo maps or other photos and we can develop the 3rd dimension of depth of field. If I can get that, I can reset the photo plane to that area and measure size and distance from the camera. It is a process I am still working on. WIP ( work in process ) and it needs your help. This time it is a process we can all do if you have a CAD program. Maybe even the free CAD light would work? I will bring the math end into the Deuem thread so it won't clutter this Mars photo thread. Tainted can then pull anything he wants over to help out.
Deuem
ps, I meant to write rectangular photos and not oblong. My fingers never listen to me. Thank you for no criticism on that.
Quote from: deuem on May 30, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
Do you know why no shadow on the heat shield, I will have to revist this photo with your info in hand. You guys have been tracking this project from every angle.
Yup been looking at those heat shields for some time :D
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Opportunity_Sol_123/1P139098156RAD2809P2267L256C1.JPG)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Opportunity_Sol_123/1P137691267EFF2222P2363L7M1.JPG)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Opportunity_Sol_123/1P137691267EFF2222P2363R1M1.JPG)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Opportunity_Sol_123/1P139098156EFF2809P2267L2M1.JPG)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45keith_laney/04images/Mars/Opportunity/1P156949192EFF4075P2357L5M1.JPG)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45keith_laney/04images/Mars/Opportunity/1P156949170RAD4075P2357L257C1.JPG)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45keith_laney/04images/Mars/Opportunity/1P158365677RAD40CLP2582L257C1.JPG)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45keith_laney/04images/Mars/Opportunity/1P158369020RAD40CUP2583L257C1.JPG)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45keith_laney/04images/Mars/Opportunity/1P157572505EFF40AJP2361L234567M1.JPG)
And here is Opportunity's landing pad
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45keith_laney/04images/Mars/Opportunity/J3.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45keith_laney/04images/Mars/Opportunity/J4.jpg)
To all, I took the jpeg in and then also the png file. The png file has no artifacts like the jpeg does. So ArMap is correct on that. As far as the thread goes many readers may not be able to open a png file at home. Tainted, that is up to you. The jpeg file was 524kb and the png 633kb, so size is not an issue. I then converted the png to bitmap 4mb, tiff @ 4mb and gif @ 677kb and there are other options. So it looks to me, it depends on what you want to do with the photo. Look at it or study it.
I took that photo into CAD and it hits 4, 8x8 pixel blocks.
Just before posting this, I also took the png file and converted it to jpg just to see what would happen. It looks the same as the png file. Huh? Any clues on what happened? Tainted, can you try this. It only added 1kb to the jpg file. I have a converter that will convert just about anything to anything. 3 clicks.
I am such a Mars rookie!! Zorgon, thanks for the pics....
Deuem
Here is some sky artifacts SOL 2552:
(http://mars8.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/2552/1P354744535EFFB200P2387L2M1.JPG)
http://mars8.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/2552/1P354744535EFFB200P2387L2M1.HTML
top left horizon, looks like a flock of birds or insects in the distance.
Quote from: deuem on May 31, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
ArMap, to scale the entire photo to real size.
Tainted, I know this is a little off topic but you have seen some of my math work ups before and TLM ( the living moon ) has not. I work with photo planes. If I know the camera focal length I can figure out how big the picture is if I have 1 known or guess at 1 object. Compare this photo to other knows such a topo maps or other photos and we can develop the 3rd dimension of depth of field. If I can get that, I can reset the photo plane to that area and measure size and distance from the camera.
Or you could use AlgorimancerPG (http://www.clarkandersen.com/RangeFinder.htm), you just have to give it two photos (from the left and right cameras) and it will tell you the distance to any point that appears in both photos.
With the exact camera parameters it would be possible to do what you want, but I don't know where to find those parameters.
Quote from: taintedsample on June 03, 2012, 05:56:47 PM
top left horizon, looks like a flock of birds or insects in the distance.
Yes, it does look like a flock of birds, but if you look carefully you can see that they aren't as fuzzy as the rest of the photo, so they are probably bad pixels on the camera.
Looking at the next photo from that camera shows the same black (and the white pixels that are also seen on the ground) in exactly the same places, as you can see below.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/Animation1.gif)
So, they are really bad pixels. :)
Quote from: ArMaP on June 03, 2012, 07:25:53 PM
Yes, it does look like a flock of birds,
Would not Martian birds need bigger wings? ;D
Quote from: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 07:31:28 PM
Would not Martian birds need bigger wings? ;D
Not if they are full of methane. :P
Same area, is this flight? Sol 2563
(http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/2563/1N355720283EFFB400P0673L0M2.JPG)
Quote from: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 07:31:28 PM
Would not Martian birds need bigger wings? ;D
With a part of the "air lift requirement" being a function of overall weight, then, I guess smaller/lighter bodies might just work with the "standard size wings"! ;)
Quote from: zorgon on June 03, 2012, 07:31:28 PM
Would not Martian birds need bigger wings? ;D
For the same reason wouldn't the sky be blue?
Hey tainted, i salute you, in posting a pic with birds in the Martian sky!! I also salute you for being able to see them, because, I just am not able to see them.
Now I understand! Martian birds must be invisible to the human eye. And, if you can see them, ................. well now tainted, you know what that means?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: taintedsample on June 03, 2012, 10:36:07 PM
Same area, is this flight? Sol 2563
I don't know what that is, but it's not bad pixels. :)
(http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/n/2492/1N349416233EFFB1AXP0500L0M4.JPG)
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/all/opportunity_n2492_text.html
SOL 2492
Now this is as close to I have come to seeing anything remotely alive or alive looking since the landers fell.
It looks like a dirt mushroom or a dirt flower, there was another one just to the left of it, but the rover mushed it.
Tainted, that is a good eye, and a good find. Actually, would be hard to really know what it is. One thing for sure, it doesn't look like anything else we have seen on the surface.
One observation, the wheel of the rover did come pretty close to that "anomaly". So, that piece lying a little farther over, could have been broken off of the anomaly itself, then squashed by the wheel. Just a thought!
One thing for sure, we can keep an open eye for more of that thing, as we look at these photos.!