Ok let me begin....
I think most of you are familiar with a Group who call themselves The Nine.
So far i know of six groups who call themselves The Nine.
THE ANCIENT COUNCIL OF NINE.
The Greek Gods.
In Greek mythology, when Prometheus gave Fire to mankind, he infuriated Zeus, so to punish Prometheus, Zeus had him chained to a rock and every day an eagle came down and ate his liver. The liver grew back and the eagle returned to do the same to him the next day. To punish mankind, Zeus and eight other deities gathered to form the Council of Nine. The council members were Aphrodite, Apollo, Athena, Demeter, Hephaestus, Hera, Hermes, Poseidon and Zeus.
Together this council created Pandora, and sent her, as a gift, to Epimetheus. Epimetheus was also given Pandora's Box, and told to never open it. Curiosity got the better of Pandora and she opened the box, releasing all of the misfortunes of Mankind.
MILITARY/CIA COUNCIL OF NINE.
The Wizards of Oz.
Military Satanic or Directed Evil and practices Mind Control via Trauma, Political Control via Blackmail, Bribery and Assassination.
Research into un-ethical area's, Psychotronics, Remote Influencing.
Human Trafficking, Drug Trafficking and Arms Trafficking.
Established since 1947 Paperclip/CIA/NSA/MJ-12.
Now naming names involved with this group is like a who,s who list, Politicians, Celebrities,Military Chiefs and infamous Psycho's.
Getting to the actual control group is where some help is required.
CHATTER/ARTICHOKE/MK-DELTA/MK-NAOMI/MK-ULTRA aware executives. Technical Services Staff, Directorate of Science and Technology, CIA.
Allen Dulles, Henry Kissinger, George H W Bush, Richard Helms, Sidney Gottlieb, Andrija Puharich, Ed Lansdale....OTHERS ???
MK-ULTRA aware Celebrities.
Bob Hope, Frank Sinatra, Walt Disney....OTHERS ???
I recommend the book (Thanks For The Memories) by Brice Taylor.
THE NINE.
The Technocrats.
Microwave mind and body control, Satellite/Cell mast/Mobile Phone/TV.
The new system is fully integrated into everything transmitting/receiving Microwaves.
The new system is about group control experiments.
This time the title (the nine) is a fictional group created by the boffins (with there superior knowledge of Ancient Myth and ET Contactees).
They are the Galactic Federation ! No really !
The new tech involves Holographic and Scalar enhancements designed to overwhelm the average non-techie person.
The Bluebeam and Microwave Invasion headed by a fictional Nine.
THE NINE.
The Nine Cosmic Forces.
The Mayan Nine Cosmic forces according to the Calender began Manifesting on October 28, 2011 and will continue until fully revealed December 21, 2012, on this date the whole Nine forces will Transpose to a higher pitch.
THE NINE.
The GodHead.
The nine channelled entities of D.G.Vinod at Puharich's Round Table Foundation.
"We are Nine Principles and Forces," The Nine described themselves as separate entities that function as one "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God. There is no God other than what we are together."
THE NINE.
The Great Ennead.
The Nine Great Gods/Goddesses of Ancient Egypt.
Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set, and Nephthys.
That's all i can think of right now....any names or others you know please post.
Erm Zorgon i don't know where to put this thread it's got elements of several areas...i'll let you decide.
Cosmic...
Working on that myself :D
Andrija Puharich
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=236.msg18909#msg18909
1947
- Puharich graduated from the Northwestern University School of Medicine. His residency was completed at Permanente Hospital in California, where he specialized in Internal Medicine.
1952
- had first contact with "the Nine", through a medium. (Gardner,1981, p 275) Served in the Army in the early 1950's.
Quote from: Cosmic4life on June 12, 2012, 08:10:59 PM
Erm Zorgon i don't know where to put this thread it's got elements of several areas...i'll let you decide.
This will do for now until we see where it leads :D
This one interstd me the most as it ties in with the Aviary group members
The nine channelled entities of D.G.Vinod at Puharich's Round Table Foundation.
"We are Nine Principles and Forces," The Nine described themselves as separate entities that function as one "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God. There is no God other than what we are together."
The mayan one that says they will all ascend Dec 2012? Taking that with a LOT of salt ;)
The Nine: Inside the Secret World of the Supreme Court(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/09/23/books/cover600.jpg)
QuoteBy DAVID MARGOLICK
Published: September 23, 2007
The farewell ceremony for Chief Justice William Rehnquist at the United States Supreme Court in September 2005 offers the kind of monumental tracking shot authors adore. Neatly and conveniently arrayed that day on the marble steps leading into the building, standing, by tradition, in reverse order of seniority, the justices line up. As some of Rehnquist's former law clerks (his soon-to-be successor, John Roberts, among them) carry his casket past his former colleagues, Jeffrey Toobin follows the procession, freezing on each of the justices, then introducing them in turn.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/23/books/review/Margolick-t.html?pagewanted=all(http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v449/n7160/images/449285a-i1.0.jpg)
(http://img2.imagesbn.com/images/101570000/101573674.jpg)
The Nine: Inside the Secret World of the Supreme Court
by Jeffrey Toobin (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400096790/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=pegasreseacon-20&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=1400096790)
This is the one I was looking for. Tied in to the remote viewing etc. I will paste a copy into that thread as well
The Council of NineQuoteOne New Age channeling cult, above all the rest, has had a huge - very disturbing influence on hundreds of thousands of devotees worldwide. Known as 'The Nine', its disciples include cutting edge scientists, multi-millionaire industrialists and leading politicians. This exclusive extract based on The Stargate Conspiracy by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002JF1NBY/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=pegasreseacon-20&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B002JF1NBY) looks at the sinister origins of The Nine
I am the beginning. I am the end. I am the emissary. But the original time I was on the Planet Earth was 34,000 of your years ago. I am the balance. And when I say "I" - I mean because I am an emissary for The Nine. It is not I , but it is the group.We are nine principles of the Universe, yet together we are one.
The declaration above is typical of the channelled pronouncements of the Council of Nine - or just 'The Nine'. They contain all the usual New Age ingredients of grandiose statements, shaky grammar and unprovable predictions. But unlike all the other channelling cults, that of The Nine has serious clout. Perhaps the reason for this is that they claim to be the Ennead, or the nine major gods of ancient Egypt (see panel). Or could there be another reason, one that owes more to The X-Files than the Pyramid Texts? Although The Nine may appear to be quintessentially a modern phenomenon, our research uncovered its truly astonishing pedigree. In fact, the story begins nearly 50 years ago, in a private research laboratory in Glen Cove, Maine, called the Round Table Foundation, run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich (also known as Henry K Puharich).Set up in 1948 to research the paranormal, among the noted psychics studied at the Foundation were the famous Irish medium Eileen Garrett and the Dutch clairvoyant Peter Hurkos (Pieter van de Hirk).Prominent members included the influential philosopher and inventor Arthur M Young and the socialite Alice Bouverie (née Astor).
In December 1952, Puharich brought into his laboratory an Indian mystic named Dr D G Vinod, who began to channel The Nine or 'the Nine Principles'. In the months before Vinod returned to India, a group met regularly to hear The Nine's channelled wisdom. Never known for their modesty, The Nine proclaimed themselves to be God, stating "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God."
Three years later, there appeared to be independent confirmation of their existence. In Mexico, Puharich and Young met Charles and Lillian Laughead, former Christian missionaries who were by then prominent in the burgeoning UFO contactee movement. (For a description of their involvement in the Dorothy Martin circle, see Jerome Clark's 'When Prophecy Failed' in FT117.) Back in the States a few weeks later, Puharich received a letter from the Laugheads containing messages received by their group's channeller. This message also claimed to come from the Nine Principles, even - amazingly - including references to the earlier communications transmitted through Dr Vinod. Could The Nine possibly be for real?
Perhaps the answer is embedded in the career of Puharich himself. After disbanding the Round Table Foundation in 1958, he worked for 10 years as an inventor of medical devices and achieved international recognition as a parapsychologist, most famously studying the Brazilian psychic surgeon, Arigo (José Pedro de Freitas). But all that was to pale into insignificance because, in 1971, Puharich discovered Uri Geller.
At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotised Geller in an attempt to find out where his abilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel 'Spectra' - an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child.
Through Geller, The Nine alerted Puharich to his life's mission, which was to use Geller's talents to alert the world to an imminent mass landing of spaceships that would bring representatives of The Nine. However, Geller - by now an international psychic superstar - bowed out in 1973 and has resolutely turned his back on The Nine ever since. Puharich had to find other channels. He joined up with aristocratic former racing driver Sir John Whitmore and Florida-based psychic and healer Phyllis Schlemmer. They found a new channeller - a Daytona cook known to history only by the pseudonym 'Bobby Horne' - who lived to regret his dealings with The Nine. Driven to the brink of suicide by their constant demands, he too dropped out of the scene - his despair being dismissed by Whitmore as "signs of instability". After this, Phyllis Schlemmer was appointed the authorised spokesperson for the entity - known simply as 'Tom' - who represented The Nine.
Puharich, Whitmore and Schlemmer then set up Lab Nine at Puharich's estate in Ossining, New York. The Nine's disciples included multi-millionaire businessmen (many hiding behind pseudonyms and including members of Canada's richest family, the Bronfmans), European nobility, scientists from the Stanford Research Institute and at least one prominent political figure who was a personal friend of President Gerald Ford.
We also know that Lyall Watson (then the darling of the alternative scene because of his seminal 1973 book Supernature) was involved, as was the influential counter-culture guru Ira Einhorn - and Gene Roddenberry, creator of Star Trek.
The key to predicting eclipses is noticing that they occur in cycles, or at more or less regular intervals. The Sun goes round the sky once a year; the Moon once a month. This means that, every month, the Moon 'overtakes' the sun. This happens at the New Moon, and this is when solar eclipses occur. But, of course, we don't get an eclipse every New Moon. This is because the Moon has an elliptical orbit: sometimes it passes above the Sun when it overtakes it, sometimes below. But the Moon's elliptical orbit has its own cycle: it returns to the same place it started from every 18 years or so. Thus - if seen from the same place on Earth - an eclipse will be followed by another one just over 18 years later.
Roddenberry was part of that circle in 1974 and 1975, and even produced the screenplay for a movie about The Nine. How much he was influenced by them is unknown, although it is said that some of their concepts found their way into the early Star Trek movies, and The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine (what a giveaway!) series.
(There is a character named 'Vinod' in one Deep Space Nine episode.) Another key player in Lab Nine was Dr James J Hurtak, who was appointed Puharich's second-in-command by The Nine. In fact, Hurtak had been independently channelling The Nine since 1973. Puharich and Whitmore commissioned British writer Stuart Holroyd to write an account of their adventures, which appeared in 1977 as Prelude to the Landing on Planet Earth (retitled Briefings for the Landing on Planet Earth in paperback)
In this extraordinary book the true identity of the Nine - and of Tom - was finally revealed. Far from being the chummy character that his rather avuncular name suggests, Tom is actually Atum, the creator-god of the ancient Egyptian religion of Heliopolis, and Uncle Tom with his eight mates are none other than the Great Ennead of Heliopolis,
But even with such impressive contacts, all was not well with Puharich. Lab Nine broke up in 1978 after a series of mysterious events that culminated in an arson attack on the Ossining estate, and he fled to Mexico, claiming that he was being persecuted by the CIA. He returned to the USA two years later, and appears to have played no further part in The Nine story. He died in 1995 after falling down the stairs in his South Carolina home. However, The Nine continued. Not only did Schlemmer and Whitmore continue their mission, but Dr Hurtak has also moved on. He has become a major player in the unfolding millennial drama currently being played out at Giza, but perhaps more importantly he has established himself as a New Age guru par excellence, travelling the world giving workshops on his book of channelled revelations from The Nine, The Keys of Enoch. Written and laid out in classic Biblical style, its darkly apocalyptic vision has huge numbers of influential devotees.This we find very worrying.
Another Nine channel - an Englishwoman named Jenny O'Connor - was introduced to the avant garde Esalen Institute in San Francisco by Sir John Whitmore. She and The Nine became so influential there that they held seminars and - unbelievably - were actually listed on the Institute's staff, even successfully ordering the sacking of its chief finance officer and the reorganisation of its entire management structure..
This should concern us, because many influential people attended The Nine's Esalen seminars, including Russians who were part of the Institute's Soviet Exchange programme. Some of these later rose to prominence in the Gorbachev regime and were instrumental in the downfall of Communism. (The Esalen Institute now runs the US branch of the Gorbachev Foundation.)
The Nine are very much still with us. One of their recent channels, who is also in contact with Tom, is the American writer David M Myers. He is co-author with Britain's David S Percy of that extraordinary tome Two-Thirds, a history of the galaxy and the human race according to Myer's otherwordly contacts (who clearly have no sense of the absurd). Percy - best known as a champion of the 'Face on Mars' and the 'hoaxing' of the Apollo moon landings - was at one time part of the Schlemmer circle. Among the other major proponents of the 'monuments' of Mars and their alleged connection with ancient Egypt is none other than Dr James Hurtak - The Nine's great prophet - who has promoted this idea since as long ago as 1973. Richard C Hoagland - familiar to FT readers as another unrepentant 'Mars Face' enthusiast - is also clearly under The Nine's spell. David Myers and David Percy were, respectively, American and European Director of Operations for Hoagland's Mars Mission. In fact, his interpretation of the 'monuments' of Mars comes directly from The Nine. Flake though he may appear (increasingly in these hallowed pages), but his influence over huge swathes of the hungrier mystery seekers is undeniable. This is the man who addresses rapt audiences at the United Nations.
But it is in the New Age channelling circuit that The Nine have truly come into their own. In any other circles their true agenda would no doubt have been rumbled long ago, but this is the New Age. Anything The Nine say must be sweetness and light, right? But an objective reading of their divine pronouncements reveal the first stirrings of something very nasty in Paradise.
Their words appeared in 1992 as the book The Only Planet of Choice, credited to 'transceiver' Schlemmer and edited by Mary Bennett (a one-time member of the Schlemmer circle who also edited Myers and Percy's Two-Thirds). This has had an unprecedented influence over the New Age. According to Palden Jenkins (editor of an earlier edition of Only Planet) more and more New Age channelling groups are 'realising' that the real source of their wisdom is The Nine. In fact, we have discerned what amounts to a campaign by The Nine - or their adherents - to 'take over' the New Age. It would be a mistake to underestimate the economic or even political potential of this vast subculture - rich pickings indeed.
But The Nine's influence does not extend merely to New Age channelling circles. Andrija Puharich, James Hurtak and Richard Hoagland have all lectured at the United Nations in New York. And individuals connected with The Nine are also known to have influence with Vice-President Al Gore. Of course, if The Nine really are the ancient gods of Egypt, then surely there could be fewer more significant events than their return. One may be justified in thinking that the more leading politicians who fall under their influence the better; but are they really the ancient Ennead of Egypt? Can it be that they have actually returned to sort us all out, scattering love and enlightenment from their high moral ground?
Tom, in The Only Planet of Choice, chooses his words carefully as he explains that all the races of the Earth were seeded from space-gods - except one, the "indigenous race", the blacks. He is very careful to urge us not to make an issue out of this. After all, it's not the black race's fault that they have no divine spark like the rest of us.
Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its relationship to the career of Andrija Puharich. Recent research has revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side. As an Army doctor in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA's notorious MKULTRA mind control project (see panel). He - together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb - experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes. even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject's brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel. Puharich's use of hypnosis is particularly interesting in The Nine circle. In the case of Uri Geller and Bobby Horne, he first hypnotised them and then suggested that they were in touch with The Nine - and lo, they were! Ira Einhorn - a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s - confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications.
The evidence we have gathered strongly suggests that Tom and his fellow gods originated, not in the stars, but behind closed doors as part of a CIA mind control experiment. And what happened to that experiment? Now with hundreds of thousands of devotees, some in very high places, can The Nine be deemed a success? Of course, that depends very much on what the CIA had in mind. With their subtle racist propaganda, perhaps the flaky New Age Nine should worry the hell out of us.
Reprinted from:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/council_of_nine_fortean.htm
Original source:
http://www.forteantimes.com/artic/126/nine.html
It's interesting to see the same names turn up in all kinds of projects after WW2 .
The Birth of the Technotronic age.
They were opening Pandora's box.
The similarities to the Ancient Greek and Egypt myths was apparently too tempting to pass.
Cosmic...
I detect NINE parallel lines, in three sets of threes.
Thats 3,6,9.
Where multiple sets of these cross each other in multiples of 2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55 they create polygons , and create a dominant cross feature .
That which flows along the nine lines then circulates the polygons , and concentrates into the dominant cross( celtic cross)
The consequence of the NINE lines crossing each other is that the central point of the geometry focussed upon the fifth central lines leads to spiral pathways both into and out of that point, the flows all follow the pathway of least resistance into the central point and back out again.
hobbit
Quote from: hobbit on June 12, 2012, 08:40:42 PM
I detect NINE parallel lines, in three sets of threes.
Thats 3,6,9.
Where multiple sets of these cross each other in multiples of 2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55 they create polygons , and create a dominant cross feature .
That which flows along the nine lines then circulates the polygons , and concentrates into the dominant cross( celtic cross)
The consequence of the NINE lines crossing each other is that the central point of the geometry focussed upon the fifth central lines leads to spiral pathways both into and out of that point, the flows all follow the pathway of least resistance into the central point and back out again.
hobbit
Do you know Tesla used to mutter 3,6, and 9 all the time, he said when man understands the 3, 6 and 9, the Forces of the Universe will be understood or something similar....but for sure Tesla is linked to 3, 6 ,9.
Cosmic..
Quote from: Cosmic4life on June 12, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
It's interesting to see the same names turn up in all kinds of projects after WW2 .
yes it was something we noticed a long time ago :D Especially THIS man
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=255.msg2089#msg2089
He is tied to literally EVERYTHING we research
and to add an interesing connecting link here
"- a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s - confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications.
Puharich at the end of his life was the house guest of a wealthy North Carolina businessman ( Josh Reynolds). At the same time his other houseguests ( for an extended perid of time were Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher and Dr. Bise.
The links are easy enough to find and I would rather actually that you all do this research for yourself. I have just done my..." Oh! Look at that! What do you see? "bit
Now does the ring seem to be closing? Or at least a little more visible? Linda
Quote from: Cosmic4life on June 12, 2012, 08:48:11 PM
Do you know Tesla used to mutter 3,6, and 9 all the time, he said when man understands the 3, 6 and 9, the Forces of the Universe will be understood or something similar....but for sure Tesla is linked to 3, 6 ,9.
"If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe."
-Nikola TeslaRosicrucian numerology is based on nine Every number is reduced to a base nine except 11,22,and 33 ie 21-12-2012 --->3-3-5 ---> 11 :D
There is a reason the Masons (and other orders) have only 33 degrees :D
Cats have nine lives it is said. In fact humans also have nine lives (incarnations) on this rock before they can move on to the next level. This fact is also tied into what John says that we do not need to worry about the suffering of others ;) It may sound cruel, but its not
Corral Castle was built on the secrets of the 3,6,9
There are many more like that but will take a lifetime to explain
Quote from: zorgon on June 12, 2012, 08:51:16 PM
yes it was something we noticed a long time ago :D Especially THIS man
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=255.msg2089#msg2089
He is tied to literally EVERYTHING we research
Ah yes the Smoking Man. Hal Puthoff.
Probably find Russell Targ lurking around too.
Cosmic..
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 12, 2012, 08:56:44 PM
Puharich at the end of his life was the house guest of a wealthy North Carolina businessman ( Josh Reynolds). At the same time his other houseguests ( for an extended perid of time were Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher and Dr. Bise.
Considering it was Puharich that brought Uri Geller from Israel, no one here at PRC should be surprised about that :P
BTW never heard back from Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher :o Perhaps she is afraid of my Dragon :D
I think I will try to invite my nemesis Dr Hal Puthoff :D
For now it's time to release the ferrets and cut the grass
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 12, 2012, 08:56:44 PM
and to add an interesing connecting link here
Reprinted from:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/council_of_nine_fortean.htm
"- a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s - confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications."
Puharich at the end of his life was the house guest of a wealthy North Carolina businessman ( Josh Reynolds). At the same time his other houseguests ( for an extended perid of time were Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher and Dr. Bise. do I need to do this ?????????
The links are easy enough to find and I would rather actually that you all do this research for yourself. I have just done my..." Oh! Look at that! What do you see? "bit
Now does the ring seem to be closing? Or at least a little more visible? Linda
I would say that for what we are researching, the Council of the Nine is the most pertinent.
I will have to see if Ingo Swann mentions them. That would be significant
Russel Targ and Ingo Swann would love to have them stop by and pick their brain :P
But then if they are as good as is claimed, they would already have 'seen' we invited them :P
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 12, 2012, 08:56:44 PM
and to add an interesing connecting link here
"- a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s - confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications.
Puharich at the end of his life was the house guest of a wealthy North Carolina businessman ( Josh Reynolds). At the same time his other houseguests ( for an extended perid of time were Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher and Dr. Bise.
The links are easy enough to find and I would rather actually that you all do this research for yourself. I have just done my..." Oh! Look at that! What do you see? "bit
Now does the ring seem to be closing? Or at least a little more visible? Linda
Elizabeth Rauscher fits the bill.
Cosmic..
And if they are as good as you think that they may be Zorgon.... they are already here. Linda
Well then they should stop being shy and speak up :P
I mean after all what have they got to hide? We already assume the worst anyway :P
Maybe its like listening to a series of clicks that you don't understand.
Perhaps they feel better just listening? Linda
how very interesting
The government also fails to recognize the US Supreme Court's landmark decision of June 21, 1943, Case # 369, overturning Marconi's basic patent for the invention of radio, thus proclaiming Tesla as the real inventor of radio.
http://www.ntesla.org/ntesla/NT-P6.html
During my time at ATS I learned that 90% of people are basically lurkers. In fact the Moon Thread of John's that started all this for me had hundreds of thousands unique visitors, most who never spoke. It was a point I made in reply to a stupid skeptic and was backed up by the owner. It was the top draw thread for years
During that thread I got so many contacts via pm and email from those in the know but they never posted
So yeah I believe that most of them listen and sometimes send hints and clues in mysterious ways like that poster in Space Command thread and one it the stargate thread both made only one post every and linked me to a key piece of that puzzle
If it wasn't for that, I would have quit a long time ago :D
I do really need to get busy on that IP monitoring program though :D
Quote from: sky otter on June 12, 2012, 09:25:57 PM
how very interesting
Tesla was a genius, but not so good with money or self promotion
He died poor and few today outside the conspiracy world know who he is, yet they all use his AC Power and his automobile ignition coil and his radio discoveries
Sad that
But I do need to track down the rumor that he said he got info from Aliens
Zorgon you said
"I mean after all what have they got to hide? We already assume the worst anyway "
Maybe we have to look at it differently. Maybe they are simply waiting for us to show us something worthwhile. Until then..... they too.... probably assume the worst of us too. :-\
Why communicate until we can show that we are not going to turn it into a dog and pony show
( Oh... wrong choice of words and images!... I would go anywhere for a good dog and pony show!... in fact.... I have the talented dogs! I am still waiting for the pony to show up!!) Linda
Zorgon.... may I ask you what you mean by this
"In fact the Moon Thread of John's that started all this for me had hundreds of thousands unique visitors, most who never spoke. It was a point I made in reply to a stupid skeptic and was backed up by the owner. It was the top draw thread for years"
Mikado used that expression too.... that the HUT has many "unique" visitors... and he seemed proud of that. So I would like to know that that means to you.
Is he just saying folks from NASA and the CIA and stuff like that or does it have another meaning that I am not catching? Unique? In what way? Linda
dang you Z..you sure know what buttons to push..
And one evening," Swartz continued, "he received what he called 'regular signals.' You know, like beep, beep, beep. Not the usual static you hear from thunderstorms and lightning. He wondered at the time if he wasn't listening to 'one planet greeting another,' as he put it. From that point on, it became somewhat of an obsession of his, to build better and better radio receivers to try to see if he could repeat what he heard. He got to the point where he claimed that he was actually receiving voice transmissions. He said it sounded just like people talking back and forth to each other. He made notes saying that he was actually hearing intelligent beings from another planet talking to each other, although he didn't know what language they were speaking. But he still felt he understood them."
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In any case, there is likely some kind of overlap here between Tesla's voice contact and the inventions that came later, though it is of course impossible to prove. Tesla felt the voices were slowly preparing mankind for conquest and domination. In "The Lost Journals of Nikola Tesla," Swartz goes on to recount the spine-tingling chronology of Tesla's battle with these aliens he believed to be an enemy race, all set against a background of industrial espionage and governmental secrecy that would make for a crackerjack science fiction tale were it not for the fact that the events are alleged to be completely real.
http://dad2059.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/the-alien-side-of-tesla/
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i don't have this one...yet..
http://www.amazon.com/The-Lost-Journals-Nikola-Tesla/dp/1892062135
can't copy or enlarge the look inside page..grrrrrrr
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ah-ha
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/lostjournals/lostjournals.htm
Contents
Introduction - by Timothy Green Beckley
Chapter - The Secret Life of Nikola Tesla
Chapter - Alien Signals in the Night
Chapter - Communicating With Other Planets
Chapter - Extraordinary Experiences
Chapter - Tesla and Electronic Voice Phenomena
Chapter - UFOs and Antigravity Propulsion
Chapter - Free Energy - Fact or Fiction?
Chapter - The Truth About Alternative 3
Chapter - HAARP - Chemtrails - Alternative 4
Conclusion
Afterthoughts on Nikola Tesla - by Diane Tessman
Tesla's "Lost" Inventions And The Secret of The Purple Harmony Generators
Chapter Three ..of course it is chapter 3
Communicating With Other Planets
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/lostjournals/lostjournals03.htm
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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_tesla.htm#Books-Treaties
Quote from: zorgon on June 12, 2012, 08:51:16 PM
yes it was something we noticed a long time ago :D Especially THIS man
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=255.msg2089#msg2089
He is tied to literally EVERYTHING we research
How much would you bet that if there is an MJ-12 or successor Group......Hal Puthoff is in it, if not Directing it.
Cosmic...
But I do need to track down the rumor that he said he got info from Aliens
yep pushed buttons..check this out
These lost journals revealed that in 1899, while in Colorado Springs, Tesla intercepted communications from extraterrestrial beings who were secretly controlling mankind. These creatures were slowly preparing humans for eventual conquest and domination, using a program that had been in place since the creation of humankind, but was now accelerating due to Earth's increased scientific awareness.
Tesla wrote about his years of research to interpret the strange radio signals, and his attempts to notify the government and military concerning what he had learned, but his letters apparently went unanswered.
Tesla spoke in confidence to several of his benefactors, including Colonel John Jacob Astor, who owned the Waldorf Astoria hotel. These benefactors listened to Tesla and secretly funded what was to be the start of mankind's first battle to regain control of its own destiny. A battle set in motion by Nikola Tesla.
While this information seems absolutely incredible, Tesla did give occasional hints to his predicament in various newspaper and magazine interviews.
then some interesting tidbits follow
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/lostjournals/lostjournals01.htm
further down is this account ...
The Men-In-Black Pay a Visit
By the summer of 1997, Alfrey had finished reading the entire contents of the four boxes and was ready to start scanning the papers on to computer disks. Alfrey had been more than a little surprised that the voluminous notes and journals contained no drawings or blueprints. It was not until later that Alfrey discovered that Tesla detested illustrating his ideas owing to the fact that his own mental blueprints were all that he required to build his inventions.
Alfrey also noticed that Tesla's journals were often incomplete. There were numerous gaps consisting of days, months and even years. Alfrey surmised that other journals could exist somewhere, hidden away either by the government, or by ignorance in forgotten warehouses and attics.
Because of these gaps, Alfrey started to make inquiries over the Internet hoping that others may have additional information concerning the missing sections. These inquiries obviously attracted the attentions of those who were also interested in the lost journals. Someone who wanted the journals to remain lost forever.
In September 1997, Alfrey was home continuing his research while his wife and children were gone for the day to Manhattan. As Alfrey remembers, the phone rang and the caller identified himself as Jay Kowski who was interested in Tesla and the papers that Alfrey had discovered.
Alfrey had spoken to the caller for only a few minutes when suddenly the line went dead. Almost immediately the front door bell rang, Alfrey recalled.
"When I went to answer the front door, I found it already open with three men standing in the foyer."
Before Alfrey could speak, the man closest addressed him by his first name.
"The door was open John, I hope you don't mind that we let ourselves in?"
The three men were all dressed in identical black business suits with white shirts and black ties.
"They looked just like undertakers, "Alfrey said.
However, Alfrey could tell that these men were not undertakers, or simply there for a friendly chat. The man who had first spoken continued to address Alfrey by his first name:
"Like he knew me personally or something. But I had never seen these men before in my life. I was afraid that maybe they were criminals. There was a palatable air of menace around these three that I had never experienced before, or after."
The other two men remained close to the door and never spoke. Their eyes remained fixed on Alfrey throughout the entire experience.
"We understand that you have in your possession some old boxes and papers," the first man said. "We would be very interested in buying these from you."
"Well, they're not really for sale," Alfrey answered. "Anyway, how do you know about them?"
The first man chuckled. "We know a lot about you and your papers. They don't belong to you, but we would be willing to pay you for your troubles. They're of no use to you, in fact, you could be in a lot of trouble for having them in the first place."
By now, Alfrey realized that the men were not asking to buy his boxes, they were demanding them. He could tell that they meant business and this frightened him.
The first man now slowly moved closer to Alfrey, speaking in a slow deliberate way. He carefully enunciated each word so that Alfrey understood perfectly where he stood.
"Its no use you know, the man said. Were going to get these boxes no matter what you do. You can't stop us. It would be much easier for you and your family if you just gave us what we want. People have disappeared forever over much less than this. I would so hate to see this happen to you, or your wife and kids."
The man now stood directly in front of Alfrey, his dark eyes fixed and cold. It almost seemed that they had some kind of hypnotic power over Alfrey as he stood there unable to speak.
Suddenly, all three of the strange men turned in unison and walked out the front door. Nothing further was said, it wasn't necessary, Alfrey understood their message clearly. He was to give up the boxes, his research, even his interest in Tesla if he wanted to remain out of harms way.
It was as if Alfrey was coming out of a trance, he realized what had happened and he rushed out the door to confront the men. But, they were nowhere to be seen. There was no car in the driveway and the street was completely empty. In fact, the entire neighborhood was eerily quiet. Even the birds had fallen silent. It was as if the world had paused for a moment, then continued on as if nothing had happened.
Alfrey rushed back into his house and locked the doors. He then went into his study where he kept the boxes and computer. The room was located at the back of the house and had no separate entrance to the outside. It obviously wasn't needed, because all four boxes, the papers contained within and the computer disks were now all gone.
It was obvious that the three men were only a distraction while someone else silently entered the house and ransacked the study, removing everything that pertained to Nikola Tesla. This included separate books and magazine articles that Alfrey had collected while he was doing research on the matter.
Worse yet, not only were his papers missing, but his computer hard drive had been completely erased. Everything that he had on it, including items not related to Tesla, were destroyed.
All evidence that he had on Tesla and his missing journals were now gone forever. Alfrey refused to speak about his frightening incident for several months. He told no one what had happened, not even his wife. It was as if he was in a state of mental shock that perpetually clouded his mind.
Slowly he began to regain his senses and remember the details of that day. He recalled that the three men dressed exactly alike, were almost the same height, and all three had their hair cut short with odd looking long bangs that covered their foreheads.
The three men also had unnatural looking tanned skin. Almost like they had used a bottled tanner that dyes the skin a dark brown. Other than these peculiarities, the men appeared to be normal. It had not occurred to Alfrey that they could be something other than what they seemed. It was not until later, when relating this strange story that someone remarked about the MIBs.
Alfrey had never heard about the Men-In-Black. He had heard about the movie, but had not made the connection. After doing a little research and reading several books by the authors John Keel and Commander X, Alfrey was certain that he had received a visit from the Men-In-Black, or at least someone who wanted to look like the Men-In-Black.
This is where Dale Alfrey's strange story comes to an end. Everything that he had done connected to Nikola Tesla has been taken away from him. Fortunately, due to his spending hours reading the Tesla papers, he has retained a good memory of their contents. Not a perfect recollection, but sufficient to relate for this book.
Alfrey wonders if his boxes were the last of the missing belongings of Tesla. Or could others still remain forgotten somewhere, waiting to be rediscovered.
What Tesla Believed
Newspaper articles from the time of Tesla's death relate that possibly over a dozen large boxes of Tesla's notes were never found by the government. These could still be out there somewhere, waiting for some lucky individual to rediscover their lost secrets.
It can only be speculated on what would be found inside other forgotten boxes of notes and personal belongings, possibly the missing information concerning Tesla's secret battle with the government and his knowledge of alien life forms.
The papers that Dale Alfrey found revealed a side of Tesla not known to the public. Tesla apparently had spent a number of years trying to translate the mysterious signals he first heard in 1899.
His basic interpretation of these signals was that creatures from another planet, "Martials" as the slang of the day called them, were secretly here on Earth - They had infiltrated humankind for centuries - They had controlled events and people in order to lead mankind on a path of evolutionary development and essentially were responsible for human's being on the planet in the first place.
As well, Tesla discovered that the planets overall temperature was slowly increasing, what we know today as global warming. Tesla thought that this was being brought about by natural conditions, as well as manmade and extraterrestrial interference.
With this in mind, we can now see some of the reasons for Tesla's eccentric behavior in the later years of his life. Tesla became obsessed with creating devices to end warfare and join mankind against what he perceived as the common enemy of extraterrestrials. He often spoke about "Death Rays" and "Wingless Torpedo's" that could fly through the air without propellers or jets, possibly one of the earliest mentions of flying saucers.
Tesla also became interested in developing methods to create free energy from sources other than burning wood or fossil fuels. Tesla was obviously the first to realize the dire consequences that could await us if the greenhouse effect was to take place.
Unfortunately, Tesla's attempts to elevate humankind with new technology were met with laughter and derision. His letters about his concerns, sent to his friends in the government, were ignored.
Tesla must have felt that he knew the biggest secret in the world concerning the fate of mankind, and nobody cared.
:o :-X
All I can think about relative to nine is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjhM8kQBp14
And when I began a search for that I happened to notic I had nine tweets waiting... [cue Twilight Zone music]
Interesting who started this thread. :)
You are aware of the link between "The Nine" and remote influencing?
Quote from: Pimander on August 06, 2012, 06:37:01 PM
Interesting who started this thread. :)
You are aware of the link between "The Nine" and remote influencing?
Guilty as charged...and yes i am indeed aware of the connection to Remote Influencing......they could not break me..they failed to kill me...they let me go...I kicked Ass 8)
Cosmic..
Quote from: Cosmic4life on August 06, 2012, 06:50:42 PM
Guilty as charged...and yes i am indeed aware of the connection to Remote Influencing......they could not break me..they failed to kill me...they let me go...I kicked Ass 8)
Something strange happened to me recently... I'll PM you about it soon.
Awesome thread.
It is interesting to note that Spectra stated he/it/they were a large super computer on board/connecting space ships.
Ashtar from the Phoenix Journals was also said to be a large super communter.
Both foretold off mass landings.
The Nine = Atum.
Hatonn = Aton.
I smell something fishy.
re-occuring patterns.
Maybe we should take Tsarions advice and investigate these 'Atonists'......
You know, I don't remember what the "strange thing" is I was referring to above. I just don't remember at all. It really isn't like me to lose something like that. I don't like this at all!
Sinny, the hole you are starting to explore is DEEP. I'll be interested to see what you find. Good luck mate. :)
Quote from: Pimander on November 26, 2013, 03:41:29 PM
You know, I don't remember what the "strange thing" is I was referring to above. I just don't remember at all. It really isn't like me to lose something like that. I don't like this at all!
I know that feeling, I found a post of mine from 2010 on BUFOG, Birmingham UFO group stating I saw 3 very large B-2 Bomber type crafts flying very low in the area... For the life of me I have no decent recollection of that event.
Now I
think I do, but I don't know if my mind has now constructed that memory.. all I know is, I wouldn't have lied about it.... High Strangeness.
QuoteSinny, the hole you are starting to explore is DEEP. I'll be interested to see what you find. Good luck mate. :)
I have a feeling this goes very deep, and I am concerned about opening cans of worms lol... I'm also persuing a possible Masonic connection.
Hoss and Stealthy are going to kill me - keep jumping from theory to theory lol.
For me, high strangeness used to be the odd synchronicity, but those have become common place and now it takes some really wack event to make a long term impression on my memory banks. In both your cases, may be some life challenge occurred and overwrote your memory before the information could be laid down on the hard disk. What was happening in RL for you, back then?
Re: Tesla. I saw recently that his 'missing" papers were taken by the US immigration authorities, held for several years and then (supposedly) sent on in toto to Yugoslavia in 1952. The now-Serbian government is currently indexing and scanning them for the Tesla Museum's online data base. NO vital information was going to be sent to any socialist country in those years., so I'm sure the papers were, uh, "well-groomed" before delivery.
rose
Good point Rose. I know I have serious issues with long and short term memory - the conclusion I and close friends have come to, is that I dissociate (spelling?) during painful periods.
They're already running Tesla's tech in the Sky's and Grounds above and below us - fair to say we won't ever see the good stuff, not for half a century at least.
Quote from: rose on November 26, 2013, 04:32:25 PM
NO vital information was going to be sent to any socialist country in those years., so I'm sure the papers were, uh, "well-groomed" before delivery.
I was thinking the same and there you said it. :)
In the past when I have read about people saying that they think their memory has been tampered with I always thought they were paranoid or just had a bad memory. When you realise it may have happened to yourself -and trust me I know how it can be done so shouldn't be surprised - it is disconcerting to say the least. I REALLY don't like it. :(
the mention of memory tampering bothers me greatly..
i can only say that if it has happened to you - you have a chance to either create or reinforce your personal protection because you are somewhat aware of it and from that you can defend
if sadly..you are not aware..well i guess then it doesn't matter......does it?
ah ha.. i have just realized that my fat fingers are not the reason for me always typeing yoiu with an i in it
that when i type yoiu
i have to go back and remove the i..
hahahahaha oh boy have i been thick ;D
Memory tampering doesn't seem to work on me, i have also had more 'direct' experiences.
Sinny, you are onto a good point here, don't let it go...
Rose; we have uncovered a great deal of Tesla's work, yes we lost a ton of papers, not all of them went back to Yugoslavia; we are talking 21 crates or more......
2 crates were reputed to have been discovered recently, the story is that they were fakes....Again, you never get to see the content so you don't know.
I would think at least 5 of those crates are at Area51 or wherever they moved it to....I guess that is why some extremist nutter can now buy most of Rachel & then the UFO community have lost yet another place where they can hang out...
You can almost feel the pincers closing......
RHIC-EDOM
Radio Hypnotic Intracerebral Control - Electronic Dissolution Of Memory.
Given that we now live with EM pollution it is possible that certain areas have the potential for wiping memories under certain circumstances ( Unforeseen ? ... consequences ).
Or .... you've seen something you shouldn't see and have been (assisted) in forgetting the whole thing ... ;)
Or .... you have the early stages of dementia ... :o
Or .... hmmmm what is that you're smoking hmmm ?? :)
C ...
Quote from: Sinny on November 26, 2013, 04:02:28 PM
Now I think I do, but I don't know if my mind has now constructed that memory.. all I know is, I wouldn't have lied about it.... High Strangeness.
I have a feeling this goes very deep, and I am concerned about opening cans of worms lol... I'm also persuing a possible Masonic connection.
Hoss and Stealthy are going to kill me - keep jumping from theory to theory lol.
Hehe not at all :-) I would be really intrigued with your thoughts on which of the characters if any ??from the 1st page of this thread make up the "Collins elite" ?
doing Masonic research eh? I look forward to your finds.
Quote from: Cosmic4life on December 02, 2013, 04:04:04 AM
RHIC-EDOM
Radio Hypnotic Intracerebral Control - Electronic Dissolution Of Memory.
Given that we now live with EM pollution it is possible that certain areas have the potential for wiping memories under certain circumstances ( Unforeseen ? ... consequences ).
Or .... you've seen something you shouldn't see and have been (assisted) in forgetting the whole thing ... ;)
Or .... you have the early stages of dementia ... :o
Or .... hmmmm what is that you're smoking hmmm ?? :)
C ...
.... All of the above :D
You make an interesting point.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on December 02, 2013, 06:24:34 AM
Hehe not at all :-) I would be really intrigued with your thoughts on which of the characters if any ??from the 1st page of this thread make up the "Collins elite" ?
doing Masonic research eh? I look forward to your finds.
Thats three times someones asked me about 'Collins Elite' ... I've never used the phrase. Is it just a different way of saying 'who's in charge'?
I'll let you know as soon as I do ;)
I just googled the 'Colins Elite'.
Only got time to skim this page: (As I'm busy looking for a home lol)
http://www.worldofprophecy.com/smf/index.php?topic=9068.0
Quote
Basically speaking, Final Events is a study of a think-tank group comprised of personnel from within the U.S. Government, military and intelligence community that has existed in stealth for a surprisingly long time. The group believes that while the UFO issue is a very real one, they do not believe it has anything to do with literal extraterrestrials.
Rather, the group - which calls itself the Collins Elite - concludes that the "aliens" are, in reality, literal demonic entities that are trying to seduce us with a false lure of supposed alien technology, and to - quite literally - steal and farm our souls. The group claim to have discovered evidence that these demonic entities - that seem to utilize a weird combination of advanced technology and archaic rite and ritual - derive a form of "energy sustenance" from the human soul or life force.
Now, I've always rolled my eye's at the though of ur UFO occupants being demonic.
My thinking was that if we are Human, and exist here, and are now starting explore space.
Surely it's logical to think we just have space visitors...
But now I've just read this... and a little voice just told me it may be plausible.
Remember my postings from The Law of One, Ra?
And the whole 'Harvest' Scenario?
In short, we are approaching a time when all our souls will be harvested.
Remind me to return to this subject.
Quote from: Sinny on December 02, 2013, 09:34:53 AM
.... All of the above :D
You make an interesting point.
Probably been "neuralyzed"...See anybody who looked like Tommy lee Jones hanging about ??
More seriously, I also have a "Suspect" memory of a conversation with my deceased wife many years ago..
some random thoughts loosely on this
Sinny
you have now circled into matrix territory..in that we.(collective we) have created all of it..
and are living our creation
which came first the sci fi or the sci fi comics, novels, ideas..?..whose to know?
are the scientific advances started in the sci-fi mentality?
demons are scary beings from negetive thoughts...? or are they? ours? left over from others?
are they a product of the early church?
or do they go further back?
are they really there to help us choose or something we truly don't know the details of?
maybe just part of the planet and we are the foreigners/aliens and they only want their territory back?
other side .. I was raised catholic and puzzled for a long long time over the stigmata
long story way short
I finally realized it is manifestation at it's most gruesome for what was thought to be glorious pain
many speak of manifesting but few actually do it with intent and even fewer recognize it otherwise
so I recall to you one of the requests from Ra material ..repeated almost per page
to be aware of distortion
if we go with the harvesting of souls idea.
you can look at current the world in crisis.. fighting everywhere,anger, fear,
day to day misery in any variety you can think of...negativity most high
how do you avoid being part of the negative?..how do you divorce yourself from the group?
imo..same way as you participate in any group......intent
kind of a ramble..but I didn't want to take a whole page plus going into details I have spend ages thinking about
as far as the memories being erased...think about it
freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose
we are free at each birth into the meatsiut..and we still manage to screw it up
::)
Quote from: Cosmic4life on December 02, 2013, 04:04:04 AM
Or .... you've seen something you shouldn't see and have been (assisted) in forgetting the whole thing ... ;)
Quite possibly. I have anagging feeling it mattered.
QuoteOr .... you have the early stages of dementia ... :o
Hope not as I'm not 40 yet. :)
It was something significant if I posted about it. Verrrrrry strange.
Sky, have you read any of Dion Fortune's books?
P..
probably but it would have to be long ago
she's in with the occult supernatural group and when i first started looking into 'other' stuff
way back in my youth that was all you could find..
but truthfully i would have to look at a book list to be speicific..
now how's that for washed memories..lol :(
Odd...
I made a big post in here a few days back and now i don't see it...
Dang it... will need to remember what it was