are you going to cover the Adena People
and the mound builders?
Quote from: sky otter on June 17, 2012, 12:32:45 AM
are you going to cover the Adena People
and the mound builders?
Sure :D Bring it on :D
That thread will be on going so any input or links are welcome. I am trying to clear up my workshop back log and get caught up :D
ummmmmmmmm i thought the tread was locked...
oh well going to go see if i can get any shots of the lightning bugs out there
it's like a giant strobe..
i'll be back ..
have a few links and info ..just tell me where to put 'em
8)
Hi Zorgon,
Some giant thread that you created there !
some good research to find all that info..
Those Skeleton photos had me very concerned when I first came across
them...and at that time I was being told that they were the Annunaki from " Planet X "
What they could do to create and get a way with back in the old days Making model giants and charging people to see them...!
certainly a nice little earner..
Quote from: sky otter on June 17, 2012, 12:32:45 AM
are you going to cover the Adena People
and the mound builders?
Looks like they may need there own thread
The Adena PeopleQuoteThe Adena folk were unusually tall and powerfully built; women over six feet tall and men approaching heights of seven feet have been discovered. It would seem that a band of strikingly different people of great presence and majesty had forced their way into the Ohio Valley from somewhere about 1000 B.C. - Robert Silverberg
Adena Mounds Grave Creek Mound State Park
American Prehistory Robert Silverberg
Adena, the historic Worthington home, is located on a commanding range of hills west of Chillicothe. It looks across to Mount Logan, from which the face of the Great Seal of Ohio was designed. It overlooks the Scioto Valley, a terrain favored alike by mound-buiders, the Indians and ourselves. - William Albert Galloway
Thomas Worthington William Albert Galloway
Tecumseh at Adena William Albert Galloway
Mound Builders of Ancient America by Robert Silverberg, page 254
New York Graphic Society, Greenwich, Connecticut, 1968
Old Chillicothe by William Albert Galloway, page 213
The Buckeye Press, Xenia Ohio, 1934
http://www.adena.com/adena/ad/
Adena culture - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adena_culture)
Don't forget the South American Patagonian giants.
"Patagonian Giants", written about by both Ferdinand Magellan and Captain Cooke in their log books; Cooke claims to have captured a 9-foot specimen who burst free of his ropes and jumped overboard. Oddly, Patagonia was known as "Land of the Bigfoots" for a spell, there.
http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2012/08/south-american-bigfoot-and-patagonian.html
(http://libweb5.princeton.edu/visual_materials/maps/websites/pacific/magellan-strait/patagonian-giants-1768-thumb.jpg)
;D
glad you liked my links.. i had a whole page of them..have to go look on the bookshelf for the rest
the thing about the adena folk and the 'bigfoot' tag has always been interesting to me..but i don't think it is the current description of bigfoot that fits..
the old newsprint articles in small towns where the new farmers would find unmarked burials of these very large folk are an interesting study in old reporters and the pioneer farmers
mostly the farmer just kept on keeping on and reluctantly told the tale when he got to town
the reporter sometimes saw the remains but mostly didn't
but the articles they wrote sure make for fun reading
some of the adena folk are credited with the serpent mound in ohio ..which matches one somehwere else.
.not enough coffee so the exact somewhere else elludes me right now..sorry
but the tall redhair folk were also found in ireland and very early europe and along the silk road
i have always thought that it was funny that they are credited with coming from ireland..
when i think of stories of the 'little people'...
who wrote that history..
sorry to go on but this part of history draws me and every time i go searching for more i get
lost in the side trips
;D 8)
Why are you posting fakes? ???
Quote from: ArMaP on December 13, 2014, 01:25:24 PM
Why are you posting fakes? ???
The title says "Rumors, Myths and Reality"
That covers ALL stories does it not? This is my library thread to collect any and all stories of Giants, real, fake or otherwise
Quote from: zorgon on December 14, 2014, 12:40:01 AM
That covers ALL stories does it not? This is my library thread to collect any and all stories of Giants, real, fake or otherwise
That's true, but on previous occasions you had the hoaxes marked as such, so I got confused. ;D
Quote from: ArMaP on December 14, 2014, 12:58:49 AM
That's true, but on previous occasions you had the hoaxes marked as such, so I got confused. ;D
Because I wasn't finished yet I post items I find so I don't lose them and update them later
These posts will self destruct in 5--- 4--- 3---
The description of the Si-Teh-Cah is consistent with Lyssa Royal's channelling about the redheaded variants of the "Lyran Giants." They were/are an STS polarised/predatory race of berserkers, with a very stratified social structure; which like Bushido in Japan, presumably developed in an effort to constrain their berserker tendencies.
Mirshalak is around 8.5 feet, and Lyssa describes the Lyrans as being anywhere between 8.5 and 10 feet, and also having green/brown/olive skin, which suggests to me that in Blizzard/Draenish terms at least, the Orcs are possibly a racial memory of the Lyrans. There is sexual dymorphism in the Lyrans, as with the Orcs; females are typically 6-18 inches shorter than the males, and will typically rely more on agility than outright strength when fighting. Lyssa describes the Lyrans as coming from Orion; you will note the green-skinned Orion slave girls from Star Trek, who are sold into slavery as a means of attempting to restrain their overwhelming sexual appetites.
You will, I think, consistently note one of two distinguishing characteristics, in the remains of giants. The first is the red hair, already mentioned above. A student of Norse mythology may also note the correlation between red hair and berserking. I am inclined to believe that Lyran genetic influence may be the source of the old stereotype, about red hair and strong temper.
The second identifying mark to look out for with giant corpses, is the abnormal length of the occipital bun at the rear of the skull, which I believe is indicative of Annunaki genetic influence.
(http://api.ning.com/files/1TxjyclNmzugAfEadZje*inQqXfRw6Xsqgaz41YGkeHJ1y2nX*sPc7zxY1bWXsEVwlQY6NVsxvVsrHPu2cLPbQNy*AI7uJ2R/Egyptianincaelongatedskulls.jpg)
You will usually find such skulls associated with royalty. This also produced the pseudoskeptical explanation; namely that ancient peoples used weights to artificially elongate their skulls; but what the pseudoskeptics naturally do not explain, is why said ancient people would do such a thing, or where they would get the idea.
Another reason why it is important to keep your eyes open when looking at royal Egyptian mummies, is that you will typically observe Caucasoid or European-like facial features, in an ethnic group where you would not expect to find them. Tutankhamun's face is ethnically consistent with the Egyptians; Ramesses the Great in particular is not.
(http://loffee.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Lookalikes-Keith-Richards-Ramses-Mummy.jpg)
QuoteThere has been a major cover up by western archaeological institutions since the early 1900?s to make us believe that America was first colonized by Asian peoples migrating through the Bering Strait 15,000 years ago, when in fact, there are hundreds of thousands of burial mounds all over America which the Natives claim were there a long time before them, and that show traces of a highly developed civilization, complex use of metal alloys and where giant human skeleton remains are frequently found but still go unreported in the media and news outlets
We have pyramid building cultures on both sides of the Atlantic. In both cases, said cultures built walls with stones of varying size, and there is striking visual similarity wherever you look. There is a network of similar sites all over the planet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLwBmtwLhq8
(Relevant passage starts at 1:11:00)
As far as ease of navigation is concerned, it makes a very large amount of sense to me that the progenitors for a global civilisation with these features, would have lived on a landmass in the central Atlantic. This would have put them in relatively easy nautical reach of both South America, and Egypt via the Mediterranean.
I haven't seen this show - I've only seen it advertised and looked up the web link to add here if any are interested ..sadly most of this info is sanitized for tv shows like this ..
i might catch it in re-runs
Search for the Lost Giants
http://www.history.com/shows/search-for-the-lost-giants
It's an ok Tv show but like Finding Bigfoot, very little substance...
Quote from: petrus4 on December 14, 2014, 04:28:31 AM
The description of the Si-Teh-Cah is consistent with Lyssa Royal's channelling about the redheaded variants of the "Lyran Giants." They were/are an STS polarised/predatory race of berserkers, with a very stratified social structure; which like Bushido in Japan, presumably developed in an effort to constrain their berserker tendencies.
Another reason why it is important to keep your eyes open when looking at royal Egyptian mummies, is that you will typically observe Caucasoid or European-like facial features, in an ethnic group where you would not expect to find them. Tutankhamun's face is ethnically consistent with the Egyptians; Ramesses the Great in particular is not.
(http://loffee.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Lookalikes-Keith-Richards-Ramses-Mummy.jpg)
Okay time to get down to do some work :D
You and Space Otter, BTS and A51 its right up your alley :D
I have just finished cleaning up the ANCIENTS section on the website and seeing as we are on about that here now its a good time to start new pages.
I am going to use YOUR post here as a start because you dropped in some issues that I was working on.
What we need to do is collect and corelate. And I need help posting it
What I need is the info gathered into posts that have the TITLE the picture and the story clipped to be copy right compliant (unless they allow free copy as some do) From the posts I can cut and paste into a webpage
But we need to focus on a subject not go all over the board as we find leads It is THAT which has created the mess of data
So lets start with these Caucasian featured red haired mummies
In China there was a cave with mummies in it. The Chinese turned the area into an Atomic Test site. Fortunately they didn't actually hit that cave
Why did they want to nuke it? Because the mummies predated Chinese ownership of theland and the mummies were tall WHITES with reddish hair
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Tarim_Mummies/mummy02.jpg)
A Tocharian man with red-blond hair; his clear European features still visible after nearly 3,500 years in his desert grave in Taklamakan. This mummified man was approximately 40 years old at the time of his death.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Tarim_Mummies/loubeaut1.jpg)(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Tarim_Mummies/loubeaut2.jpg)
One of the most famous Tocharian mummies found, the so-called "Beauty of Loulan"; and right, her face as reconstructed by an artist. "Beauty of Loulan" The oldest mummies found in the Tarim Basin come from Loulan located at the east end of the egg shaped Taklamakan Desert. Dressed only in shades of brown, she was alive as early as 2000 B.C. during the era of Abraham and the patriarchs. She died when she was about 40. Next to her head there is a basket which contains grains of wheat.
The Mummies of Tarim Basin
Xinjiang Province of China
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/The_Mummies_of_Tarim_Basin.html
Alternative Archaeology is all about CONNECTIONS
The reason I got so far as I did with my research is that I would follow all threads to find connections, even if one turned out to be a hoax or a dead end
Quote from: petrus4 on December 14, 2014, 04:28:31 AM
(http://api.ning.com/files/1TxjyclNmzugAfEadZje*inQqXfRw6Xsqgaz41YGkeHJ1y2nX*sPc7zxY1bWXsEVwlQY6NVsxvVsrHPu2cLPbQNy*AI7uJ2R/Egyptianincaelongatedskulls.jpg)
On the cone shaped skulls...
...it IS known that Incas did use head binding HOWEVER the question is WHY would they do that? Well likely because they saw their Gods with heads like that.
Now there is one person who posts on Facebook. He actually goes to Peru and other places tracking these skulls. We are sorely out of date on the VOLUME of these skulls that have been found.
He also makes another point. While human skuls are TRI LOBAL (three sections) the Elongated skulls NOT created by head binding) have only TWO SECTIONS
His name is Brien Foerster(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1512439_10203106214844029_4926713563180245540_n.jpg?oh=46ab92215c239084ed0b7c2ec58419b5&oe=550E7F7A)
Now he also looks at megalith sites especially sites not usually covered in mainstream and he has shown many interesting finds that tie into our theories
One in particular is the megalithic stones. He pointed out ONE FEATURE that we see all around the world. That feature is the way the stones were cut and fit
In particular the OLDEST layers at the bottom show this type of fitting
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KiSr31IKAHQ/VAt6Imxyb-I/AAAAAAAACwQ/puQ3k6-Ncgw/s1600/IMGP5125.JPG)
I have seen this style in Egypt and other sites. This alone would cover many pages. But in Cuzco Peru, an Inca site, it becomes immediately obvious that these early blocks (dated PRE INCA) were very old ruins already when the Inca took over.
What we see then is new layers of stone built on top of the original ones... and just like the Giza pyramids, the early stones are works of art and architecture while the later generations got sloppier and went into decline so the top levels are simply collected stones
Here is one such street in Cuzco The bottom layer of huge fitted stones is VITRIFIED (great heat to do that) You can see the original foundations and the new layers on top
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IEF-uEv0raw/VAs2-ya5-AI/AAAAAAAACvY/sEjS_t_7jFE/s1600/IMGP5044.JPG)
Here is another one showing the various levels of work
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7xnvjeRlK4k/VAs7fu0WNgI/AAAAAAAACwA/DJXl-zy0eaw/s1600/IMGP5187.JPG)
Now added to that mix are TWO other sites I want to look at. They two are dated Pre Inca... but looking at them they do not make any sense as structures
To me they LOOK LIKE quarries... places where the huge blocks were carved from... yet the cut material is no where near the site
These two sites are
Terraces and steps: prehistoric rock-hewn structures at Sacsayhuaman and nearby Qenko in the high Andes mountains of Peru
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Yonaguni_Japan/yonaguni4_03.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Yonaguni_Japan/yonaguni4_05.jpg)
See what I mean? Just random cuts of huge proportion
This is a modern quarry, also cut in huge steps
(http://maheshwarirocks.com/images/granite-quarry6.jpg)
The secons site is underwater in Yonaguni Japan
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Yonaguni_Japan/Yonaguni2.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Yonaguni_Japan/yonaguni4_02.jpg)
Look at the overview graphic of Yonaguni and compare it to the site in Peru..
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Yonaguni_Japan/yonaguni_maqueta2.gif)
To my thinking both sites are large quarries for material that was somehow transported elsewhere
It looks like ALL the ancient megalithic sites had these interlock stones and are likely all one culture, whether Alien or very Ancient remains to be seen
The Tibetan books I have tell of a huge city in the Himalayas (no not Shangri La) that has technological wonders. They say this city was build for Giants. I will cover that here later
One more thing to add ...
You asked for a map showing a continent in the Atlantic... WHY the Atlantic? and not the Pacific?
Well we all know about Atlantis... but there are other Lost Civilizations
The Tibetans will tell you we are the FIFTH civilization on the earth and one was giants.
The Rosicrucians have works on LEMURIA and MU Sometimes these are separate sometimes they are the same but lets have a look at this
It is my assumption that main stream archaeology has a problem. I don't mean their lack of will to get to the truth :P I mean DATING
How many times in the past few decades have the dates of some sites been pushed further and further back? The Dinosaurs lived for over 400 million years... humans a mere drop in the bucket.
How many civilizations could have risen up on this planet and been wiped out without any real trace between the time the dinos died out and we came along?
And we do find the traces today in small dribbles to be sure, most likely because certain groups simply HIDE THEM (like the Baghdad batteries that were hidden in a basement and are now again lost due to looting)
Well if we look into MU and Lemuria... you will find your map. This map also explains why the Islanders spread around the Pacific are all alike even though it is claimed they had no contact
(https://xr4ceq.dm2302.livefilestore.com/y2mgTxsmAEiApZVDXQHa6jSjNFiPyZRcI-6Abg6-_gQ7E9XhN4M8kL1j51ZHg9qI66CbkivZzGrtSeF4n0c-VkvR6RLmqjachP8ClNUJM_DvT64Yqk9fz4grgxnK3jfFrMT/mumapcolor.jpg?rdrts=93338242)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbYg4uHTfAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbYg4uHTfAM
(http://www.realhula.com/graphics/mu/map.jpg)
The Inventory Stelle of Khufu says he found the GP already incredibly old and he simply RESTORED it. (perhaps the dating was done on the restoration materials) We know them to be much older
The Tibetans say these civilizations were incredibly old
The Inca built on pre inca ancient sites. This is now main stream knowledge
The Zhang Zhung Empire has all but vanished of the face of the Earth
So lets see if we can put all this together into a big puzzle :D
The updated Ancients Menu is here
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/index.html
I have more to add but those pages are all updated
I will do Stargate section next
BIS BIS!
(http://www.unf.edu/uploadedImages/anf/its/Info/applause.jpg)
I am trying to fit the Mars connection in this story. Since I am absolutely positive our ancensters are from or had connections with Mars.
What is your idea about that I am wondering...? 8)
could you be referring to Wayne Herschel ?
http://www.oneism.org/orig_right_wit.php
It is as if we originated in a world that had a perfect gravity that would be a lot less than the Earth. For example if we lived in gravity close to half of what it is today our human ability and efficiency would equal any ape or hominid. Another anomaly is that out skin is not compatible with the harsh strength of our Sun. It is as if we lived in a world that had 'perfect' solar radiation... close to where Mars orbits the Sun! Oh yes... by the way... Mars might have had approximately half the gravity of Earth before it was destroyed with an impact event causing a 2000 km wide impact crater (the largest known impact event in our solar system) where the planet lost its oceans.
See Mars secrets
http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/mars.htm#anomoly
.....
New evidence presented by The author of The Hidden Records reasons how humanity is descendant of those that evolved in another star system. Our ancestors appear to have arrived here replacing the last Earth Hominid... the Neanderthal, around the time of a cataclysmic flood event.
The probability calculation here seems lower than it should be merely because scholars have not yet agreed to make any official comment if the star maps interpretations are probable.
Wayne Herschel is part of the Mars show. 8)
His book (which I bought btw) has some good information about this subject. Also some, well, some Wayne facts ;)
But the evidence IMO is to be found everywhere. I have found my own evidence on MOC images also.
I am wondering how Zorgon sees this since he can think out of the box in a very interesting way.
Quote from: zorgon on December 16, 2014, 06:32:36 AM
In China there was a cave with mummies in it. The Chinese turned the area into an Atomic Test site. Fortunately they didn't actually hit that cave
Why did they want to nuke it? Because the mummies predated Chinese ownership of theland and the mummies were tall WHITES with reddish hair
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Tarim_Mummies/mummy02.jpg)
A Tocharian man with red-blond hair; his clear European features still visible after nearly 3,500 years in his desert grave in Taklamakan. This mummified man was approximately 40 years old at the time of his death.
This is also the reason why ideologies like white supremacy and eugenics exist; it's also where our entire concept of royalty comes from. What I might refer to as the "Oxford/Prince Charles bloodline" is strongly genetically influenced by very hierarchically minded extraterrestrials. There are hard genetic imperatives there towards elitism and predation/domination of others.
Slight update here, kids. I just found this (http://marchofthetitans.com/earlson/rameses.htm) page, with some more info about our old friend Rameses the Great. Not only was he Caucasoid and had an unusual resemblance to Keith Richards, but in addition to that and his height, we once again have the trademark red hair, very out of place.
(http://marchofthetitans.com/earlson/rameses_files/ramesses.jpg)
Note the hair on the far right of the image. It gets more interesting; said hair was discovered to be wavy, as well.
Rameses hung around too, it seems; he was apparently 90 when he died.
My current theory on all of this, is that our central lost civilisation, was run by some strongly negatively polarised/STS extraterrestrials. My reason for suspecting that, is the strong tradition of human sacrifice which existed in the Americas, along with the usual pyramid building.
(http://projectavalon.net/pyramid_with_eye.jpg)
Then, of course, you've got this thing that was apparently found in South America. Another question, however, is whether or not this image actually belongs to the Freemasons in some sort of unbroken line, or whether this was the insignia of these nasty ETs, and then the Masons borrowed it out of desire to associate themselves with them. At the moment, my money is probably on the latter explanation, but I have no way to be sure.