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Title: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: astr0144 on June 23, 2012, 04:14:42 AM
Alex Jones interviewing David Icke.

I found some of this very interesting as to what David Icke says about How some of the Elites claim to relate to being  advanced
Alien beings...and How they claim there DNA is different.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYVWis11AIo&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=7&feature=plcp
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on June 27, 2012, 10:22:56 AM
Do we have comparison charts of this Alien DNA to compare to hu-mon DNA?
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Pimander on June 27, 2012, 12:03:42 PM
Not that I know about.

If there are "aliens" living among us that look like us, I suggest looking at the non-physical part of the being too... This is what I think Icke is likely to have seen when he saw his shape shifter.  He saw the non-physical aspect of something.

All "souls" are NOT the same.  Some of us might well be xtraterrestrials/extradimensionals but entirely genetically human.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: zorgon on June 27, 2012, 10:22:56 AM
Do we have comparison charts of this Alien DNA to compare to hu-mon DNA?
(http://www.cantos.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/david-bowie4.jpg)
No charts yet, but heres a visual...Oh dear were in for it!
Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
Heres a good thread in Icke's frum about how the hollywooders have changed dna..kinda creepy!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46038
Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Pimander on June 27, 2012, 05:59:59 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
Heres a good thread in Icke's frum about how the hollywooders have changed dna..kinda creepy!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46038
Le
Good thread?  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing025.gif)

BOTOX, weight loss and plastic surgery.  A change in politics when you become part of the establishment (Jane Fonda) does not have anything to do with DNA.

KINDA CREEPY??? NONSENSE ALERT!
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 06:02:17 PM
Read deeper, Pimander,its a long thread!
:-)
Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Pimander on June 27, 2012, 06:13:36 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 06:02:17 PM
Read deeper, Pimander,its a long thread!
:-)
Le
I don't have time.

If you found a part worth my time then by all means point me to it.  I read for about 5 minutes and there was absolutely no substance to it.  I could be an old man - like Zorgon :P - before I get to the good stuff if I waste too much time.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 06:15:33 PM
Wow, pimander, i sent you on a wild goose chase! Sorry bud!
It was somewhere in there where icke pointed out that certain celebs were having their dna upgraded, and i cant find it for the life of me in the 100 plus pages, as when i c and p it it starts off from page one...doh!

Feel free to disregard that link!

Icke says it though, more than once, that the elite have a way of bringing new meat into the fold!
Speaking of meat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaFZTAOb7IE
Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 06:31:35 PM
Here ya go, Pimander, it was a link on his forum, not an actual post.

http://scienceray.com/biology/alien-genes-found-in-human-dna/

Cheers, and sorry for the goose chase!
Littleenki
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: undo11 on June 27, 2012, 06:37:02 PM
too many conflicting ideas in icke's stuff.

christianity is a bunch of prudish brain washed sheep, who frown on women showing off their beauty and sexuality, but they are respnsible for programming women (in hollywood that has about as many christians per square inch as saudi arabia) to be sexual commodities.

le mew, le sigh, le can-we-blame-someone-else-for-once-like-the-real-perps-for-example.

female beauty is good. female beauty is bad.
women having freedom to wear what they want is good
women having freedom to wear what they want is bad.
women who wear dresses cause they want to express their feminity, are brainwashed
women who are condemned for dressing in ways that show off their uniqueness as women, are good.

oy.  doubbbbble speak on steroids.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 07:04:44 PM
True Undo, hes a bit out there, but the head injury is his official out!:D
His forum members are quite in line with him sometimes too! But there are some good tidbits in there!
Cheers, Undo, nice to see ya back!
Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Pimander on June 29, 2012, 04:59:43 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 27, 2012, 06:31:35 PM
Here ya go, Pimander, it was a link on his forum, not an actual post.

http://scienceray.com/biology/alien-genes-found-in-human-dna/

Cheers, and sorry for the goose chase!
Littleenki
The article is a load of bollox.  Professor Sam Chang doesn't exist.  I know some of the scientists involved in the Human Genome Project and they haven't heard of him even if he exists!

QuoteYesterday I blogged on the strange story of Dr. Sam Chang – the scientist who seems not to exist – who allegedly reported that junk DNA was "ET." Well, as I alluded to yesterday, the article swiftly made the rounds on the internet, becoming the basis for yet more wild ufological speculations, even making a brief appearance on the website of the late Zechariah Sitchin. Yet, as critics quickly poked holes in the story, it seemed to grow.

The story, to me, has all the hallmarks of a "dye the waters" sort of operation, a psychological operation designed to plant a "meme" in society – in this case, the "meme" of tying junk DNA to extraterrestrials – and then monitoring where that meme travels as it makes its way through the information-maze of the internet. Additionally, one of the hallmarks of such operations is to monitor the comments and information that is kicked loose because of it.
SOURCE:  THE STRANGE CASE OF DR. SAM CHANG AND ET JUNK DNA, PART TWO: DYING THE WATERS [Joseph Farrells website] (http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/05/the-strange-case-of-dr-sam-chang-and-et-junk-dna-part-two-dying-the-waters/)

Furthermore, I have a background in biosciences and molecular genetics is a topic I am familiar with.  If there was concrete proof in the public domain that some human genes are extraterrestrial I would know about it.  There is not.

That does not mean that there is no evidence, but if there is it isn't public domain.  On the other hand, there is some very strong evidence that LIFE did not evolve on Earth.  I will start a thread in a the next few hours outlining this for anyone interested.




COME ON MEMBERS.  If we wish to be taken seriously on this site then we need to raise the bar.  If I am going to contribute more serious material to the site I don't want to waste it on a forum where we just discuss nonsense.  LETS RAISE THE BAR. ;)
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 29, 2012, 05:37:27 PM
And NOT let yourselves be used by this kind of operation

quoting the above.

"The story, to me, has all the hallmarks of a "dye the waters" sort of operation, a psychological operation designed to plant a "meme" in society  – in this case, the "meme" of tying junk DNA to extraterrestrials – and then monitoring where that meme travels as it makes its way through the information-maze of the internet. Additionally, one of the hallmarks of such operations is to monitor the comments and information that is kicked loose because of it.

And where are the most important watering holes of information monitoring?  Forums like this one and others discussing alternate energies........

Linda
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Somamech on June 29, 2012, 06:28:52 PM
Anyone remember jack arneson ???

His experiences are up there in ranks of some of the all time greats... Plus he has a really good mil section on the living moon . 

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/index.html

Also recall reading that the Bon in Tiebet have a well interesting tale regarding their heritage.

As for Ickes claims... I don't bother researching him so I don't know LOL
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 29, 2012, 06:49:27 PM
Pimander, no need to slap my cheek! :o Its just an article I found and was sharing with others.
I never said I agree with it nor did I say it was even close to being true.

Do the investigators of a crime walk past a piece of evidence because they feel it isnt within their belief?

No, they pick it up and look closely at it, as you have this article. Well done.

Fodder for the mind is what it is, and to understand the incorrect or farfetched ideas and theories, is paramount to realizing what is true or not in the long run.

Of course I question any statement or declaration that there is alien dna in ours.....how the hel! Would they know anyways, do they have alien dna to compare it to?

DOH!

Raising thebar all at once is difficult at best, so seeing these articles and such either reinforces already known facts, or shows us how silly some so called researchers can be.

Cheers,
Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Mikado on June 29, 2012, 06:55:57 PM
Before anyone casts aspersions as to the silliness of researchers, that is only a subjective assumption.

Some researchers have looked at the DNA of our closest relatives and they are quite a close match except for a couple of percentage points and can find no explanation for its source. Just because they say it is alien, and this is not my quote, just means that it is alien to the known DNA so far.

Just two cents,

Mikado
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Pimander on June 29, 2012, 07:05:32 PM
Oh there is some fascinating material, Somamech, some of which I intend to present to the members.  My comment about raising the bar is a kind of rallying cry.  Discussing bogus articles can be a waste of time and makes us look like idiots unless we careful.

LittleEnki, I understand where you are coming from to an extent mate.  No face slap intended.  Of course there is value in knowing what is not true but I think we are due a focusing of the lens so to speak.

Quote from: Littleenki on June 29, 2012, 06:49:27 PM
Of course I question any statement or declaration that there is alien dna in ours.....how the hel! Would they know anyways, do they have alien dna to compare it to?
Precisely. ;)
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Pimander on June 29, 2012, 07:10:22 PM
Quote from: Mikado on June 29, 2012, 06:55:57 PM
Some researchers have looked at the DNA of our closest relatives and they are quite a close match except for a couple of percentage points and can find no explanation for its source. Just because they say it is alien, and this is not my quote, just means that it is alien to the known DNA so far.
Also consider that many species (not just humans) have apparently unique sequences in their DNA.  Do they all have alien sequences?  Or are they all different from one another and therefore have different DNA?

P.S.  You won't get a Nobel prize for solving that puzzle.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on June 29, 2012, 07:35:40 PM
Quote from: Pimander on June 27, 2012, 12:03:42 PM
If there are "aliens" living among us that look like us, I suggest looking at the non-physical part of the being too... This is what I think Icke is likely to have seen when he saw his shape shifter.  He saw the non-physical aspect of something.

All "souls" are NOT the same.  Some of us might well be xtraterrestrials/extradimensionals but entirely genetically human.

A very good point... but Earth is the cradle, the kindergarten as it were for new souls. We have to pass through several live before we can move on into the mainstream. Yes there are a few that come back to help us along (that would be a new thread ;) and yes it is possible for some people to 'see' these entities.

You have heard that cats have 'nine lives'? Well so do we have 9 reincarnations to complete here before we 'graduate' Some people do end up having to redo a lesson :D  I am in my eight.

Yeah yeah I know I will get the flak :P but this is the way it works

Re: Icki  He is a little out there on the Reptilian thing... but I would not discard that completely...

Re: Aliens here among us that look like us.

The reason I am still here running this website and forum is only because I have acquired contacts that are true insiders NOT on the UFO circuits or the web.  There are many things I have but let me post two...

Most of you know how I met Jack Arneson and the Aquila story. In that story I will quote a section again...

In the morning, about 9am it was already 95 degrees. An Army Captain pulled up in a jeep from the direction of the training area, whom we had never seen up to that point either, and informed us the exercise was over, "go back to your units".

  Well....You probably have a pretty good idea about me by now, and I said: "C'mon Captain, we all saw that thing last night, and it wasn't any kind of aircraft we've ever seen. What was it...and who's"? We all were looking directly at him, then curiously, like something's not right with this guy, like he didn't seem to be alive. Kind of a waxy face, almost plastic or mannequin like and strange light green color eyes and wearing black gloves in 95 degree heat in a full dress uniform with no name tag. And not sweating!

  He said: "I don't know what you're talking about, now get back to your units"! After what we saw the night before and the crap from the AP's, I was getting pissed. And when I saw he wasn't armed, when everybody we saw was, I wanted answers. I still had my M-16 in my hands. I made a kind of threatening move by wrapping my hand around the grip and trigger and said point blank: "Why are you wearing black leather gloves in this heat and not sweating"?

  He didn't answer. I clicked off the safety. It seemed like if you were a mile away, you would have heard that click. He twitched at this and looked at the weapon then me. He knew I wasn't impressed with his rank. Nobody moved. Like time stopped. It was uncannily quiet. He was about five feet in front of me. And I thought: "If he makes a move towards me, I'm going to cut him in half".

  He took two slow steps backwards and turned to head back to his jeep. First, he would have jumped down my throat for not saying "Sir" if he was a Captain. Then I would have been standing before a court martial for handling a weapon in a threatening manner. Third, he started back to his jeep (with no driver) and no response.

  I was going to stop him but the MS was really freaked out by this time and ran up to me and said: "Are you crazy? What are you doing"?

  I protested and said: "Sarge, this guy's an impostor, can't you see that? Everybody else might be dead"!

  He said: "You may be right but I'll find out what's going on when we get back. Don't take the chance of a court martial for threatening an officer"!


  I remember say something like: "I already did that and if he's an officer, then I'm an alien"! The "Captain" heard that and turned back and looked at me with black eyes! It sent a shivering chill up my spine upon seeing this and said: "Did you see that? Look at him! His eyes are black now"!

  I started to raise my weapon at him and tell him to stop and the MS got in front of me and said: "Stand down soldier, that's an order"!

  As the Captain drove off back towards the training area I told the MS: "We'll never know now, that's the last time we'll see him and you aren't going to find out anything when we get back and know it".

  He said: "I know, but we saw something special and can't repeat it, can we? Who would believe us? And someone would stop us one way or another. And if I let you shoot him, and he is what he looks like, where would we be then? And what makes you think he didn't have a weapon? Because you couldn't see one? He may have had something that could vaporize all of us, the size of a lighter"!

  I said: "You've been watching too much Star Trek and when did you get philosophical? Last night you wanted to forget the whole incident"?

  He said: "I thought hard about it last night and came to only one conclusion: We're being visited and we'll be told when they want to tell us. They are obviously much more advanced than us and don't seem to be a threat. Otherwise we would have been in the middle of it last night. So let's get back safely without shooting anyone".

You can read the whole story here
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/index.html#UFO

The second one...

Thanks, Ron.  I got a kick out of reading your note!  YES...MIB's do exist.  Did you get a chance to read my story about the 'visitor' I met at MacDill?  He had 2 sets of eyelids...honestly...reptilian!  I about sh!t my pants when I saw his eyes...never forget them!

That MacDill is MacDill AFB  The entity was wearing Airforce oficers uniform just like in Jack's story. The 'story' is a 500 page document that includes a real story of MIB's and a sketch of a star drive

So yeah they are here, they look like us but can be spotted by the skin texture and the eyes

Maybe that is why the MIB's (the alien ones) were those suits and shades :D

I really don't care if anyone believes this. I have satisfied myself on this years ago. But these two do not know each other and one incident was in the 60's the second in the 80's

Look for the eyes... ;)

Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on June 29, 2012, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on Today at 10:49:27 AM
Of course I question any statement or declaration that there is alien dna in ours.....how the hel! Would they know anyways, do they have alien dna to compare it to?[/quote]

Quote from: Pimander on June 29, 2012, 07:05:32 PM
Precisely. ;)

Well considering all conspracy forums in the world have assumed that aliens are real and they the government is hiding bodies, then yes they would have alien DNA samples

You cannot have it both ways  Either they are covering it up, or there is nothing there and we can all turn off the computer and go outside and play

Personally I have a different theory on our DNA... and why 90% is not active. But that be another tread  :D
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 29, 2012, 07:47:51 PM
Hey, Zorgon, I can see Mac dill from the edge of the bay where I fish.
Its twenty miles as the crow flies.

Should I worry, or watch out when in tampa and some officers come into where Im eating lunch?

Maybe Im safer here, as they wouldnt poop in their back yard would they?
Oh dear I just picked up dog poop from my own backyard....I hope the aliens dont follow dog rules! :P

Ill be reading that story later, and I always know youve got more than a few pages of straight poop on these et's. Thanks for sharin'! ;D

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on June 29, 2012, 07:50:37 PM
Thanks Pimander, your one cool amigo! ;)

I bet you and Zorgon could start a thread to end all dna threads!

Its a field i havent even delved into yet, so my ears are open wide!

QuotePersonally I have a different theory on our DNA... and why 90% is not active. But that be another tread

Les hear it mate!

Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Linda Brown on June 29, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
Zorgon.... you said '

You cannot have it both ways  Either they are covering it up, or there is nothing there and we can all turn off the computer and go outside and play
I learned from Morgan a very long time ago to recognize and then avoid either/or situations so I want to submit the thought here that there just might be something else at play here that we have not identified. Picking either on or the other of your choices here could help us miss something else.

Just a consideration. What ELSE might be here?  Linda
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Mikado on June 29, 2012, 08:02:59 PM
Quote from: zorgon on June 29, 2012, 07:35:40 PM

I really don't care if anyone believes this. I have satisfied myself on this years ago. But these two do not know each other and one incident was in the 60's the second in the 80's

Look for the eyes... ;)

Which one was in the 60's and which one was in the 80's? And what branch are we talking about?

Mikado
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Mikado on June 29, 2012, 08:05:35 PM
There are either/or situations, as in, is it the truth or not. Is it true or false.

There can be no in between.

Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Pimander on June 29, 2012, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: zorgon on June 29, 2012, 07:40:30 PM
Well considering all conspracy forums in the world have assumed that aliens are real and they the government is hiding bodies, then yes they would have alien DNA samples.
Agreed.  But if they do have it, then it is not public domain and won't be anytime soon.

It's the job of all of us, especially in fields where we are experts, to filter out as much noise as possible.  My Saber is always ready. ;)

@Linda
I have to agree with Mikado here that sometimes something is plain BS.  The material I squashed was nonsense and as our resident "expert" on the topic feel duty bound to inform our members.

@Zorgon
I'm always interested in a future discussion about DNA as I'm sure you're aware. ;)
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Amaterasu on June 29, 2012, 10:36:05 PM
Quote from: Pimander on June 29, 2012, 07:10:22 PM
Also consider that many species (not just humans) have apparently unique sequences in their DNA.  Do they all have alien sequences?  Or are they all different from one another and therefore have different DNA?

P.S.  You won't get a Nobel prize for solving that puzzle.

I suspect the answer is, "Yes."  [smile]  The ET's who created Humans also created many of the creatures We have around Us - or had.  Some have likely gone extinct.  So it is possible that some were "gifted" with ET segments.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on June 30, 2012, 01:02:03 AM
A few years back I was speaking with a semi retired CIA chap living in Australia, a friend of John's.

We were talking about Holloman AFB meeting. He told me that he recalled meeting someone who was there. When he told me who, I just had to ask so I wrote to that person. I had an email that was indirect so I sent my mail with a crypted question.

Well to my surprise the mail was forwarded and I got his direct private email

I told him what I had heard and said that if he didn't wish to answer I would understand and I would keep it confidential if needed.

Well he did reply and on top of that I have a photo with autograph "To my friends at Pegasus" that I will scan soon and post.

I am in the process of inviting him now. Until then I will not reveal that name but when you hear it, a lot of stuff will make sense :D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Holloman/hollomanalien1.jpg)
Artist impression of Holloman 'Large-Nosed' Aliens

I have more  Will do a thread on Holloman but there are many stories out there. I have quite a network of top people on board in the back ground  mostly via email and skype

Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on June 30, 2012, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 29, 2012, 07:47:51 PM
Should I worry, or watch out when in tampa and some officers come into where Im eating lunch?

Well watch for the ones that don't smile and are wearing clothing that you would consider too hot for the climate... and try to catch their eye :D

{{{then run like hell LMAO}}}                   
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on June 30, 2012, 01:19:55 AM
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 29, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
Just a consideration. What ELSE might be here?  Linda

I  learned a long time ago that if I spend too much time in that in between grey area, I never get anything done. I work much better on the single premise that they are indeed hiding stuff... so for me the only option is go dig it up and bring it into the light

Endless guessing of what else there might be in the grey area doesn't work for me. But then, that is why we have a forum, so when something does turn up in the grey mud I can drag it out into the either it is or it isn't category.


I would rather have one pheasant cooking in the pot than 10 hiding in the bush :P
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on June 30, 2012, 01:28:25 AM
Quote from: Mikado on June 29, 2012, 08:02:59 PM
Which one was in the 60's and which one was in the 80's? And what branch are we talking about?
Mikado

Had you read the link to Jack's story you would have the answer to that and also the tie in to the 'TEST'

Also in mys post I dais "one incident was in the 60's the second in the 80's"

Not rocket science to figure this out :P

As to whether or not people believe me, I created the website and later this forum as a tool for me to find my answers. Along the way I share what I find. I am not here to prove anything to anyone :D

one incident was in the 60's the0-0
second in the 80's
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on June 30, 2012, 01:34:01 AM
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 29, 2012, 08:02:40 PM
Picking either on or the other of your choices here could help us miss something else.

Not in this case no.. there is no middle ground

One one side you have "They are covering up" on the other side "Nothing to see here, move along"

There is no "Well we are giving you this... but not talking about that"

If there was we would have something solid to grasp on to :D
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Pimander on July 02, 2012, 12:00:34 PM
For the record, I am convinced that advanced aliens exist.  I may not be able to prove it by introducing you to them (my owners would terminate me  :o) but they are around.

As I say, even if you do not believe a single description of an alien body, encounter or other witness report, we have as near as damn it proof of their technological capabilities which are beyond even current deep black projects - let alone the technology available to "us" in the 1940s.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on July 02, 2012, 01:30:09 PM
Quote from: Pimander on July 02, 2012, 12:00:34 PM
For the record, I am convinced that advanced aliens exist.  I may not be able to prove it by introducing you to them (my owners would terminate me  :o) but they are around.

As I say, even if you do not believe a single description of an alien body, encounter or other witness report, we have as near as damn it proof of their technological capabilities which are beyond even current deep black projects - let alone the technology available to "us" in the 1940s.

Indeed, Pimander, it would be ludicrous to think there are no advanced beings sharing the universe with us, and for those who think that way, they are confined to a life of denial in many subjects, for sure.

Sheer mathematical possibilities overwhelm the skeptic and their naysaying, and the number of people who have witnessed and even been a part of events to amazing to believe involving different lifeforms is huge. Especially since the 1940's.

All it would take, as Zorgon says, is for one solid fact to illuminate itself against the black wall, and the cat would be out of the bag.

Now, as the thread asks, where have they gone?

Home?
The moon?

Or the Rothschilds's house? :o

Thats why the whole thing is covered up deeper than that nasty stuff at Cheyenne.

And that termination statement is funny, yet it does hold a bit of mystery within...is Pimander really an aliens pet? Or are we all? :o

Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: vril on July 02, 2012, 04:20:54 PM
Doesn't sleeper say about the same thing?  It's just not specifically bloodline related as Icke has always said but more soul level.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Linda Brown on July 02, 2012, 04:30:01 PM
Quote from: zorgon on June 30, 2012, 01:34:01 AM
Not in this case no.. there is no middle ground ( But Zorgon..... perhaps the middle ground is where "they" hide all the good stuff for later use!)One one side you have "They are covering up" on the other side "Nothing to see here, move along" 

First you have to identify who you mean by "they". What if there is another " they " that you haven't even identified yet. What then?)

There is no "Well we are giving you this... but not talking about that"  ( Isn't there?)If there was we would have something solid to grasp on to :D  ) You do have.... alot of pictures for example from the NRO supplied to help the case against NASA..... but what happened to that conversation? Plenty of material being supplied all of the time but it is just as quickly buried by disinformation and misdirection. This is not the only Forum where it happens... otherwise you would have a whole lot more solid stuff to hold on to.... In fact.... we all probably have more than we need. We just need to learn to see it. Its all there in plain sight.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: deuem on July 02, 2012, 05:14:29 PM
Hi All, a couple of quick notes.

Where I live, there are many people that never sweat even if it is over 100 degrees out side and in the sun working, running or lifting. Even add a jacket and complain it is cold! While I just melt into a blob of water like the witch did and hide in the AC. All of the ones that do sweat think something is wrong. It is spooky!  Number 2, I simply have to run more faces and see if I can catch any differences.

Deuem
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Linda Brown on July 02, 2012, 05:30:07 PM
Now THAT ought to be an interesting project. " Running faces". You SURE you want to do that? <g> Linda
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: Littleenki on July 02, 2012, 09:31:33 PM
Oh yeah, reminds me of this movie...(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lZX1vnn5Ge4/TBIQcqkvmRI/AAAAAAAACaA/boN5X4k20IQ/s1600/They+Live.jpg)
Oh noooooo!
Let's run those faces D!

Le
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: deuem on July 03, 2012, 01:12:10 PM
Quote from: Linda Brown on July 02, 2012, 05:30:07 PM
Now THAT ought to be an interesting project. " Running faces". You SURE you want to do that? <g> Linda

Ever since I saw an interview with a guy who claimed he was an alien and sitting right next to another man in the same light and run with Deuem, I stopped. Real creepy! After running the photo I believed him. You all have seen my process on our well known Mr Grimsly. It is a very typical look, of humans. This will slightly change with lighting conditions and makeup.

The Alien was so far off that is was apples to elephants, not even oranges. With the standard photo he looked normal. Now just to make sure, I don't want to start running stupid photos from tabloid mags of people shape shifting to lizzards. I will from time to time grab my own photos and work them up. It is easy to get in trouble for doing this and so I stay away. I don't want someone to get mad and sue me for slander or come after me if I get it right.

Even if I do it all by myself, I run it then trash it. From time to time there is a face or 2 in a photo and I have no choice but to run it. Like Lindas dad holing the UFO test rig in a old photo. Dr Brown came out A-Ok normial. So for at least faces, you are going to have to read through the lines. If I say I don't like that one, Guess! For me, it is alike to doing a UFO and getting square circles. Many times now I will black out all faces first so I never know.

And the movie, They Live, one of carpenters best. He is a master at this.

Deuem
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Now THAT ought to be an interesting project. " Running faces". You SURE you want to do that? <g> Linda


Ever since I saw an interview with a guy who claimed he was an alien and sitting right next to another man in the same light and run with Deuem, I stopped. Real creepy! After running the photo I believed him. You all have seen my process on our well known Mr Grimsly. It is a very typical look, of humans. This will slightly change with lighting conditions and makeup.

The Alien was so far off that is was apples to elephants, not even oranges. With the standard photo he looked normal. Now just to make sure, I don't want to start running stupid photos from tabloid mags of people shape shifting to lizards. I will from time to time grab my own photos and work them up. It is easy to get in trouble for doing this and so I stay away. I don't want someone to get mad and sue me for slander or come after me if I get it right.

Even if I do it all by myself, I run it then trash it. From time to time there is a face or 2 in a photo and I have no choice but to run it. Like Lindas dad holing the UFO test rig in a old photo. Dr Brown came out A-Ok normal. So for at least faces, you are going to have to read through the lines. If I say I don't like that one, Guess! For me, it is alike to doing a UFO and getting square circles. Many times now I will black out all faces first so I never know. Since then; Everyone in Deuems inner circle has been checked clean.  Please do not post any peoples photos to run. I will avoid them at all costs!

And the movie, They Live, one of carpenters best. He is a master at this.

Deuem
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: rose on July 11, 2012, 07:43:38 AM
Quote from: zorgon on June 30, 2012, 01:11:45 AM
Well watch for the ones that don't smile and are wearing clothing that you would consider too hot for the climate... and try to catch their eye :D
             

We have a lot of oddly bundled folks like that in the high desert, Zorgon, that don't WANT to make eye contact with anyone. But they generally have tracks on their arms or are  toothless with a chronic case of sniffles.

Deuem...I do believe.

rose
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: zorgon on July 11, 2012, 08:07:07 AM
Quote from: Linda Brown on July 02, 2012, 05:30:07 PM
Now THAT ought to be an interesting project. " Running faces". You SURE you want to do that? <g> Linda

Well since this thread is about the ELITE  I recommend staring with this one... pretty sure she is one

(http://subversify.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/hillary-clinton.jpg)

(http://therightplanet.blog.com/files/2011/09/hillary_old.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ad997gYEOqQ/TfEURG8ntFI/AAAAAAAAFB8/5DLzt3y0H_0/s400/hillary5.jpg)

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4iMQZr3UTGRUSsUZueoqP91fyZ-9xIuZzO3cMRHZJVW1SSlbBNv9yaWCi)

(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0133f17479df970b-600wi)

Yup a whole lot of eery shape shifting going on here... no doubt about it  :o

(http://www.photoshoppix.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10002/hillary-clinton-alien.jpg)

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x282/Tarzan_of_the_Apes/Toons/WWN20cover.jpg)

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmIsHRv4kqDALbxbwIU57NbAWpUCwJLPW66cKg5woFbIJL1zRJ8iOyuyQuYw)
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: deuem on July 11, 2012, 09:45:05 AM
As hard as is was to do for me, Mrs Clinton looks OK. I did the large face on photo and real close up of the Eyes. Her left eye in that photo is not 100% round. But looks Ok. She also has a lot of makeup on. Makeup tends to show me purple.

Recently there was a post of Coopers face. Came out OK, but sickly. I can not expalin this, it is a feeling I got while looking at the processed photo. His skin came out more two toned than multi toned.

The Everything is Aliens guy has the worst process. Very questionable and I need a better photo to sart with.

Deuem.. Please note. I am sorry but I do not want to publish these photos and get in trouble.
Title: Re: David Icke : Are the Elites advanced Alien Beings ?
Post by: deuem on July 11, 2012, 10:00:03 AM
Quote from: rose on July 11, 2012, 07:43:38 AM
We have a lot of oddly bundled folks like that in the high desert, Zorgon, that don't WANT to make eye contact with anyone. But they generally have tracks on their arms or are  toothless with a chronic case of sniffles.

Deuem...I do believe.

rose

This account is true and very freaky. For years even before I got onto web sites I would talk with my sweaty friends about this. I always said that there is another mother race here that has blended in over hundreds or thousands of years. Very recently, the scientist discovered another gene pool from up North that has cascaded all the way down to where I am. THE HEAT. This is no joke, we all call them reptiles. They bake in the sun and are very happy, while we all run for shade and water. And yes Zorgon, good point, they never smile. When you see people out in 40C with a winter coat on, what do you think? In the winter they almost stop. The percentage is very low because we live in a place where 90 percent of the population come in to work or school then go home after a year. But the lizards stay. Most people hire them to do outside work that has to be done in the sun. They do not sunburn or sweat. If I am out in the direct sun for an hour, I would be as red as an apple and my skin would blister and fall off. Peal in a week. For them, nothing! If this was in the States, red flags would be put up and work stopped till the heat went down.

Deuem