As You know, I have been trying to spread the word about the Abundance Paradigm. To that end, I have made a number of efforts to contact Foster & Kimberly Gamble, most of which involve leaving comments at Their site, most recently here:
http://www.thrivemovement.com/behind-the-scenes-reflections-on-thrive-movie-kimberly-carter-gamble
What I wrote was the very basics, with the link to My essay (and as You can see, links are ok - though I suppose if One was trying to make money, they wouldn't be). I went back to see if anyOne had commented - and MY comment was GONE! Other, more recent comments were there, but (as You can see) Mine was nowhere to be found.
So... I wrote another comment. I noticed a typo and edited to correct it - and received a message that all edits "by original" posters had to be approved. (All I did was change one letter!) I reloaded a bit later - and THAT comment was GONE.
So... I posted a third time. I waited only a short time - and when I reloaded, it too was GONE!
Given that what *I* have defines even further what They offer, and spells an even better future than even THEY offer... WHY would MY comments be deleted???
Why would They want to silence ME? Unless... They are a farce, a new way to divide and conquer, a way to keep Us yet wage/debt slaves yet letting Us THINK We're free. I did NOT get counterpoints. I got SILENCED.
(LE, You may want to see if Foster still has the post of My work on FB...)
Link I used: http://bit.ly/I5TriH
Hey, Amy, your AP post is still there as of now, and its right in the thick of the first page still.
There are several likes and a few nice comments too.
I have tried to go on their website a few times, and see which Thrive groups are here in town, signed up and received absolutely no response whatsoever.
I dont know why they built this huge site with all the trimmings, and make it seem like their are groups all over the place, when none will respond to a member who is clearly suited for the job, or duty.
If I had to guess at whats going on with thrive, it would be that these guys are aiming for the big fish, with the big bucks, and even though they are mega loaded, money begets money, and their doctrine in the movie presents a world of peace and sharing, so why dont they accept non monetary help?
Im going to PM Foster on his fb page, and ask him a few pointed questions, as he friended me, not him, and I wonder his agenda for doing so, after seeing some of the crap people are posting on his fb page. Whew!, some of those people are schizo and maniacal! Im wondering if he even checks it anymore, and his assistant does it for him.
Keep thinking of those trees, hills, and lakes, Amy, where your worries will be floated away on the breeze, and the writer in you can flourish, and maybe soon he will have to take notice, when your works grow and become a bigger part of the literary arena!
Hugs!
Dave
Thank You, Dave. Glad to know it's playing still at the Hotel Califacebook (You can check out any time You like but You can never leave).
I am rather livid about the suppression at the site. I keep hoping to see it up there...at least one of My comments...but no. None of the three are out there.
Littleenki
Strange things.
I have been moving my library today because George is getting ready to knock down a wall this next weekend and two book cases filled with material would have been in the way.
You know I get upset over changes like this but I am trying to handle it. Decided I would cram these extra book cases into my already crammed den/office.
I hadn't realized until now how much in Printed out material I have collected until now when they are all having to share the same physical space. Just my work with Paul.... 25..... 25!!!!! two and a half inch binders... crammed..... and then there is the one 3 inch binder for the FBI.....oh... my goodness. But for some reason all that material is gathering about me... like ducks waiting to be fed and I think that this must be part of the Cosmic haha process!!!! What is next?!!!
In the moving of things though you just got a message.
I moved a binder I haven't even touched in years... (not kidding! dusted around it maybe but haven't opened it!) and a small yellowed envelope fell on the floor. Good thing I saw it. I flipped it over .... my Dads careful hand writing in red..... catch that... in red.
I opened it and there are five pictures of the item we talked about... in operation.... So I guess I will be sending them to you as soon as I can get to a secure mailbox. Heads up. This is straight from Dad.
And think on this
I dont know why they built this huge site with all the trimmings, and make it seem like their are groups all over the place, when none will respond to a member who is clearly suited for the job, or duty.
Because maybe they are not who they seem to be. Keep your eyes open on them AMY!
Good Morning! Linda
A cosmic haha of epic proportions!
Your dad had a way with the other side of things, and he seemed to always highlight the right parts!
That item could be the whole reason we were brought together, or it may be another sample in a line of clues leading us to something else. Who knows at this point, all I know, is I had never even heard of him and your family until a few years ago, and for some reason now, as fruity and flaky as it seems, he is communicating with me while I swim.
He isnt telling me formulas or equations, or how to build a flying saucer, though, he is showing me how to learn and find the necessary knowledge to make myself better every day, in whatever endeavour I take up.
When I have an idea or theory pop in, there's his face or the picture of him at the radio set from the cover of Paul's book!
As I watch the clouds float above, and think of how they are showing me the special beauty reserved for the open minded observer, all I can think is he is telling me...David, there is a reason for all of this, stay the course!
Ive found one thing in an old yellow envelope in my life...a valuable collection of fishing flies which are amazingly perfect after nearly a hundred years of storage.
Even they had red writing on the important ones! :o
Cheers, Linda!
Le
Oh, I'm even more suspicious now than I was after watching THRIVE. It's not like I was rude, or selling something for money... I am trying to help Humanity, f'chrissake! But I was silenced.
Creepier and creepier. My spidy sense is getting heebee jeebees.
As Jimmy Buffett once sang.... We are all doing the Hokey Pokey.... You put your rignt hand in, you pull your right hand out......shake it all about.... thats what the worlds about.
I happen to believe that he was talking dealing with the other side..... but thats just me.... The song also mentions Dark Matter I think..... I will find the lyrics and you tell me if you don't think he knew just a tad more than his simple little song!
Linda
The Hokey Pokey is a VERY old song... I remember singing it when I was...8 maybe? That's nearly 50 years. So... I didn't think Jimmy was singing that back then... Could be wrong, but seems to Me He wasn't around as a singer then.
Oh PLEASE AMY. Stay on the page here.
Of COUSE its an old song. He likes old songs... I dont think that they mentioned dark energy however in the fifties.
Stay on board please..... there are fins to the right of you.... fins to the left!!!!! Linda
All credit and thank you to Jimmy Buffett....
The universe is runnin' away
I heard it on the news just the other day
There's this new stuff called dark energy
We can't measure and we can't see
It's some elemental mystery
Train that we can't catch
But our heads are in the oven
And somebody's 'bout to strike a match
Meanwhile back on our big round ball
Things are getting serious as cholesterol
Permutations, calculations,
Greedy piggies at the trough
Arrogance and ignorance
Just to top it off
I just can't keep up with the Nasdaq
Who got sold and bought
I've got to take my lunch break
But I'll leave you with a little for thought
Maybe it's all too simple
For our brains to figure it out
What if the hokey pokey
Is all it really is about
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/jimmy+buffett/what+if+the+hokey+pokey+is+all+it+really+is+about_20340675.html ]
What if life is just a cosmic joke?
Like spiders in your underwear or olives in your coke
My life can get as messy as a day old sticky bun
So I arm myself with punch lines and a big ol' water gun
They say it's not that simple but just maybe it should be
It's time to change the subject, would you join me in a cup of herbal tea?
Maybe it's all too simple
For our brains to figure it out
What if the hokey pokey
Is all it really is about
I still believe in rock 'n' roll
It pays my bills and soothes my soul
There really really isn't
A whole lot more around
Except for Frank Sinatra and the Big band sound
I want music in the music
I want chicken in the soup
I want caffeine in my system let's revive the hula hoop
Maybe it's all too simple
For our brains to figure it out
What if the hokey pokey
Is all it really is about
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 29, 2012, 04:03:12 PM
The Hokey Pokey is a VERY old song... I remember singing it when I was...8 maybe? That's nearly 50 years. So... I didn't think Jimmy was singing that back then... Could be wrong, but seems to Me He wasn't around as a singer then.
Here is Jimmy's version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XBT3CXi6e0
J
THANKYOU FOR THAT. I couldn't do that! Linda
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 29, 2012, 04:34:51 PM
THANKYOU FOR THAT. I couldn't do that! Linda
LOL..I have been an astute student of my grandchildren ;D
I freely admit that anything I might know regarding electronics and/or the internet has been taught me by them.
J
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 29, 2012, 04:16:12 PM
Oh PLEASE AMY. Stay on the page here.
Of COUSE its an old song. He likes old songs... I dont think that they mentioned dark energy however in the fifties.
Stay on board please..... there are fins to the right of you.... fins to the left!!!!! Linda
Well, never was a big Buffett fan - didn't DISlike Him, just never got into Him. Couldn't name You one tune He did, though I have heard of Him, surely. I didn't know He did "remakes..."
After looking over the Thrive site, I must say that 99.9% of the comments are kudos for the film and it's makers. So no big surprise why your comments aren't there.
I saw 1 poster (lizju1) who most difinitely didn't agree with Thrive. She posted:
QuoteTHRIVE: TO GRASP FOR ONE SELF AND PROSPER - ILLUMINATI
and
Quotewill someone please tell what they are actually doing apart from this film...all the information in this film belongs to someone else..
So it may very well be the purpose of that site is self-promotion and nothing of any more substance than that.
J
Buffett has always been a favorite of mine... mainly because I know that at one time he didn't have a roof over his head either.... drove a 100.00 pick up... but the Cosmic hand has touched him... and he is active in environmental work.... besides bringing alot of joy through his music.
Dean Franklin taught him how to fly seaplanes....
And I feel a certain kinship to him because Dean was the man who used to fly my Dad to the Bahamas all of the time....and his grand daughter is a close friend.
Its a very small world.
Buffet sang about a woman he named " Desdemona".... she reminds me a little bit of you Amy... she would slap the water to call the entities from other dimensions to her.... and I feel that you have that potential.
Bananna Winds is one of his better albums.
and one of his songs ( Last Mango In Paris) there is a line..... Oh Jimmy..... there is so much to do......
Linda
Quote from: Lady Jae on June 29, 2012, 04:52:51 PM
After looking over the Thrive site, I must say that 99.9% of the comments are kudos for the film and it's makers. So no big surprise why your comments aren't there.
I saw 1 poster (lizju1) who most difinitely didn't agree with Thrive. She posted: and
So it may very well be the purpose of that site is self-promotion and nothing of any more substance than that.
J
Thanks for the vid... As for "self promotion," Foster is child of Gamble of Proctor & fame - and He released THRIVE for free recently. So I don't know what's up with that. But I think Liz has a clue.
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 29, 2012, 05:02:21 PM
Buffett has always been a favorite of mine... mainly because I know that at one time he didn't have a roof over his head either.... drove a 100.00 pick up... but the Cosmic hand has touched him... and he is active in environmental work.... besides bringing alot of joy through his music.
Dean Franklin taught him how to fly seaplanes....
And I feel a certain kinship to him because Dean was the man who used to fly my Dad to the Bahamas all of the time....and his grand daughter is a close friend.
Its a very small world.
Buffet sang about a woman he named " Desdemona".... she reminds me a little bit of you Amy... she would slap the water to call the entities from other dimensions to her.... and I feel that you have that potential.
Bananna Winds is one of his better albums.
and one of his songs ( Last Mango In Paris) there is a line..... Oh Jimmy..... there is so much to do......
Linda
And thank You for the lyrics! Yeah, He knows a bit more than He openly admits. I don't know that I call any entities, though... It's just Me and My spidy sense. [grin]
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 29, 2012, 05:09:50 PM
Thanks for the vid... As for "self promotion," Foster is child of Gamble of Proctor & fame - and He released THRIVE for free recently. So I don't know what's up with that. But I think Liz has a clue.
Understand now, that I was speaking to the purpose of the site. I haven't watched the movie...yet :)
J
What if the hokey pokey is really what its all about.
Much going on here than we can see from this surface.
Linda
Quote from: Lady Jae on June 29, 2012, 05:12:54 PM
Understand now, that I was speaking to the purpose of the site. I haven't watched the movie...yet :)
J
Pay close attention. I did a review of it. It's here somewhere. You can see if You agree. Take note of the one eye in the image used as the logo...
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 29, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
What if the hokey pokey is really what its all about.
Much going on here than we can see from this surface.
Linda
Poking Us with hokum...er...hokey.... Yeah. That's what it's all about.
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 29, 2012, 05:35:01 PM
Pay close attention. I did a review of it. It's here somewhere. You can see if You agree. Take note of the one eye in the image used as the logo...
I found the review and will watch the movie. However, I must finish your most execellent article first. My mind isn't as sharp as it once was; mental multitasking is no longer my talent...lol
J
[smile] I understand all to well. Take Your time.
I haven't seen Thrive although it's been recommended to me by several people. It seems to be a re-make of the Zeitgeist ideas, but was released FOR PROFIT (which tells me a LOT) at first. It was months before he made it available for free. Zeitgeist, OTOH, was released from the git-go for free and all the material is available for free, with translations into 30 different languages all done by volunteers...
How does Thrive differ from the Zeitgeist idea of a resource based economy, and does he advocate getting rid of money and making sure everyone on the planet has the necessities of life before certain people have lives filled with luxuries? Because we're really not able to call ourselves a 'civilization' until everyone is fed, clothed, housed, educated and given medical care...
He's advocating non-central banks. No, NOT money-free. In fact, I think They don't want People to know that free energy spells the end of the need for money.
They are putting Their own little system into place - OR - just diverting energy from real solutions with hope and dreams They will never allow to actually happen.
I strongly suspect the latter.
Quote from: Littleenki on June 29, 2012, 02:14:05 PM
Hey, Amy, your AP post is still there as of now, and its right in the thick of the first page still.
There are several likes and a few nice comments too.
I have tried to go on their website a few times, and see which Thrive groups are here in town, signed up and received absolutely no response whatsoever.
I dont know why they built this huge site with all the trimmings, and make it seem like their are groups all over the place, when none will respond to a member who is clearly suited for the job, or duty.
If I had to guess at whats going on with thrive, it would be that these guys are aiming for the big fish, with the big bucks, and even though they are mega loaded, money begets money, and their doctrine in the movie presents a world of peace and sharing, so why dont they accept non monetary help?
Im going to PM Foster on his fb page, and ask him a few pointed questions, as he friended me, not him, and I wonder his agenda for doing so, after seeing some of the crap people are posting on his fb page. Whew!, some of those people are schizo and maniacal! Im wondering if he even checks it anymore, and his assistant does it for him.
Keep thinking of those trees, hills, and lakes, Amy, where your worries will be floated away on the breeze, and the writer in you can flourish, and maybe soon he will have to take notice, when your works grow and become a bigger part of the literary arena!
Hugs!
Dave
So... Was wondering what became of Your efforts, Dave. They still have never contacted Me in any way.
I really enjoyed Thrive...right up to the point where Foster started promoting Ludwig von Mises. I can remember sighing, shaking my head sadly, and thinking, "Oh, Foster. You were doing so well."
To be totally fair to him, von Mises isn't the sort of smirking, largely mean-spirited psychopath that Milton Friedman was; Mises' main problem was that he simply thought almost exclusively in theory and hypotheticals, without discussing how said theory actually applies in the real world. Ayn Rand remains the only one of the Capitalist philosophers who I have any respect at all for; and even there, I'm more than willing to admit that Objectivism is far from perfect.
The other major problem with Thrive was the fact that after the film was released, John Robbins essentially had an emotional tantrum, and encouraged virtually everyone else involved to denounce the film, purely because of the mere presence of David Icke in it. Not because of anything specific that Icke said, but purely because he was there.
Icke doesn't deserve that. Does he at times talk about subjects at times which are extremely dark, and cause him to appear insane to a mainstream audience? Absolutely. Did he do that during Thrive, however? No. He gave an eloquent, accurate, and useful description of what is genuinely going on, as far as the banking industry are concerned.
I think You've got it. Anynonmouses says that, finding out about My experience with THRIVE, He is removing HIS support of THRIVE. He had a link on His twitter profile and will be changing it.
So... I do think THRIVE is just more "elite" fancy footwork to divide & conquer, mixing truth with lies.
From what Ive gathered, Gamble is on a self importance kick, and travels to all these places to receive his pats on the back from a bunch of fruitloops who have a selection of twisted agendas....
The Movie was OK for a newbies intro to all things worldly, but nothing more..and Icke is OK when he has had his meds...otherwise, look out you might get the bizarre Icke, instead of the concise, clear Icke.
And yes the movie went south around the 2/3 rds point for me...kinda creepy almost as if it were some sort of psy-op.
QuoteThe Movie was OK for a newbies intro to all things worldly, but nothing more..and Icke is OK when he has had his meds...otherwise, look out you might get the bizarre Icke, instead of the concise, clear Icke.
My thoughts exactly!
You reading minds again, Dave ??? :o :-[ ;D