A Second Hubble Telescope? Discussion Thread
Well its always gratifying when I find stuff that proves John was correct and vindicates all our years of putting up with abuse. :P
Now what I find interesting is that these were supposedly used to take images of the earth, but NASA has always told us Hubble was never able to look at the Moon much less the Earth...
Hmmmm
So yesterday we thought we had one failing deep space telescope, today we have three, two of which are militray grade.
This begs the question, just WHAT did the NRO replace them with?
They say these things don't exist over an over again, then once it is known they exist, the same people act like it is no big deal.
Most people don't argue or debate as a means of finding truth, they do it as a means of finding a sense of victory. And part of feeling victorious is ignoring any past moments of defeat. They'll always say they suspected that the things they denied were true.
"No big Deal."
"Old News."
"Obviously they'd have secret spy satellites, duh"
"I always suspected Hubble could be pointed down"
Went to an astronomy lecture at the tiny local Delaware observatory, Mt. Cuba, many years ago.
The lecture was for the area DuPont scientists and engineers and I was a guest.
The lecture was given by Dr. Harry Shipman who was heading up the University of Delaware Dept of Physics and Astronomy at the time.
The lecture covered Dr. Shipman's view of our current knowledge and future prospects of space.
I have one of his books "Black Holes, Quasars and The Universe" and the lecture covered no new (to me) material.
Dr. Shipman finished and took questions and very few Duponter's had a question.
So, my turn, I asked Dr. Shipman what kind of resolution we might get if the Hubble was pointed at the Earth.
Harry looked thoughtful and grinned quietly. He says "well, it's funny you asked" and was quiet again.
Then, he says "a year ago I was with a group of senior military scientists"'
"We were discussing the Hubble and I asked if the Hubble had been used to view Earth"
He says "well, I'm not sure I should say anything, but, I haven't been told not to and "
"One of the military scientists says "have you heard of the Keyhole Satellites?" and I say yes"
He says "the Keyholes are the same thing and, we have almost a dozen of them"
That was the era of the KH-11
Never forget that story.
0CD
And...............I wonder if wouldn't be just about as easy to have one of these orbiting the moon - if "anyone knew" that there was, or might be, something up there to look at?? ???
And why we don't have robots on the Moon is anyone's guess. At least, publicly know robots. :D
Quote from: zorgon on June 30, 2012, 10:20:28 AM
Now what I find interesting is that these were supposedly used to take images of the earth, but NASA has always told us Hubble was never able to look at the Moon much less the Earth...
From what I could read online these are different from Hubble, as they were made to point to Earth, so that means that Hubble pointed to Earth wouldn't get the same results.
QuoteSo yesterday we thought we had one failing deep space telescope, today we have three, two of which are militray grade.
This begs the question, just WHAT did the NRO replace them with?
For some reason, from what I read I got the idea that these were never used.
Quote from: ArMaP on July 01, 2012, 01:55:33 PM
For some reason, from what I read I got the idea that these were never used.
Are you saying that the NRO had 2 satellites
in orbit but never used them?
Surely you don't believe that?
Quote from: Pimander on July 01, 2012, 03:48:49 PM
Are you saying that the NRO had 2 satellites in orbit but never used them?
Surely you don't believe that?
No, that they never sent them to orbit, that's why they have them in New York.
Quote from: ArMaP on July 01, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
No, that they never sent them to orbit, that's why they have them in New York.
Oh, I see. Sorry mate - I thought you were losing the plot too for a minute. You never know who will next lol. (joking :) )