From: http://starfawkesofthe21stcentury.tumblr.com/post/26284366157/rfid-chip-in-obamacare-implemented-by-2014
QuoteFor medical services will you agree for yourself and your family to be chipped like a farm animal with a RFID? Better start making up your mind now.
Sec. 2521, P. 1000 – The govt. will establish a National Medical Device Registry.
More at link.
Gee. Are We surprised? No.
that link doesn't work
WOW! They pulled THAT fast! They must not was Us to know... I do remember PP1008-1012, I think it was... House Healthcare bill...
Geez. Gotta love the web.
EDIT: Did a search, Snopes (who has been shown to be compromised) is saying it's not true...
Seems it is indeed a hoax, though. I am a bit nervous though. I wouldn't be surprised if buried deeply there wasn't something that could be used to mandate chipping.
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 01, 2012, 06:39:02 PM
From: http://starfawkesofthe21stcentury.tumblr.com/post/26284366157/rfid-chip-in-obamacare-implemented-by-2014
More at link.
Gee. Are We surprised? No.
I'm sorry but this is misinformation.... The government already has an invisible bar code chemical that uses NO CHIP to identify you, and implants are OFF THE MARKET for human uses.. the chemical code is like DMSO and is quickly absorbed by your fat cells. All they have to do is find something you much touch, - and you become "tagged by a SYNTHON".
I wrote a book on this, http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html (http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html)
Raymond
Quote from: Tromprenard on July 01, 2012, 07:14:44 PM
I wrote a book on this, http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html (http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html)
Raymond
Bon jour, Raymond :)
The link you provided doesn't work...Error 404.
J
Yes, Raymond, this is indeed misinformation. You may note My edit on My second post. BUT... It's in the works, mark My words.
The original said something about having to choose healthcare + chip vs. no healthcare + no chip. And since We know the chip is on Their agenda, this choice is VERY likely to become a reality, now that They control healthcare...
EDIT to add: I got a 404 on Your link too.
Ok, here we go again!
I for sure don't know much about this subject, however, it doesn't take much effort to find out for sure that this is not just somebody's "pipe dream"!!! This is very much a subject that is a part of "Obamacare" - ie. "America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009".
I will post specific data I have obtained from Wiki, and I will post a link for that also. If we post the "words" here, it will be harder for them to be "just removed", as it seems other links on this subject may have been removed from the net. The Wiki page was last updated in 2011.
On the Wiki screenshots I am posting, I have highlighted "some" of the words that do relate directly to people/patients (us), as the "medical devices" are discussed or referred to. Maybe this will help us get our attention focused on this subject!
As Amaterasu said, "mark my words" ----- it sure looks like this is going to happen, unless it does get "repealed", by a new President, and Congress!!
Here is the Wiki link:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/H.R._3200/Division_C/Title_V/Subtitle_C
I think you may be over reacting as far as the document I just read.
My Father had a pacemaker. It had a serial number etc.
I have a stent, I carry a card with the serial number, lot number and placement at all times in my wallet for reference.
I believe that is all they are talking about.
Mikado
I suppose one could say that this includes any device that might be "used", but there is absolutely no reason to think that "implant data chips" are not a future consideration here, in these words.
I don't really think that "pacemaker stuff" would go anywhere near what is being referred to as a need for "protecting patient privacy and proprietary information". Not much data in a pacemaker to relate to privacy. This represents Obamacare's approach to managing "medical devices", and "patient data" seems to be very much a consideration for being a part of that.
And just where might that patient data be, if not in a medical device, such as a "chip"???
No, the way I read this, with the "Commissioner of Food and Drugs, involved, with the "head of the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology involved, as well as others, this can be very inclusive, regarding patient data.
Quote from: Tromprenard on July 01, 2012, 07:14:44 PM
I wrote a book on this, http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html (http://www.psychopropulseur.com/Spacepen12.html)
Raymond
Fixed the link...
Wow weird front page :P
$29.95 eh :D
Of course Pegasus gets a free signed copy for the library right? :D
Great book, worth the 30 bucks...definitely!
Le
Has anyone ever heard of a chip being inserted into new recruits in boot camp?
And if so, what years did they either do it, or start it?
It seems they would have it easy when we got our shots in the first week.
And the way those shots felt it was like they were shooting a rock into my arm, and the infection that most of us got afterwards was blamed on the "reaction to the vaccine", whatever that was.
Severe pain under the armpit, and a locked up shoulder for two days.
Sound familiar Zorgon?
Le
Don't know about the military, but I am convinced They are chipping "po' folk" who come into emergency rooms - at one hospital in Ithaca, NY, nearly for certain.
Hey, Amy, didnt you say once they were doing it there, and tried to get you to geta shot and you refused? or was it someone else her?
Frightening to say the least, as when we dont ask for something, and get it, it usually isnt for our own good!
We see how easy it is to chip a dog or cat, and such, humans have a much bigger body, and more spots to inject it.
I wonder also, if these chips refer info constantly, or if they are read only, where you have to be near or within a certain range to be read.
That little bump on the arm, where I got my shot in the Navy?
Had it excised years ago, and the doctor showed it to me under a microscope, and it was square and made of some sort of metal, which was scratched and shiny where the scalpel hit it. It didnt look like any device, and he said it appeared to be a piece of a nail or something I picked up during construction work.
Id have noticed that, eh?
Anyways, since that day about ten years ago, when I had Basal cell taken off my neck on that same day, my entire outlook on life has changed from negative to positive, so maybe it was something bad...who knows? I wish I had been aware of all this amazing knowledge here back then, as I would have saved the little piece, but instead he tossed it into the garbage can next to his desk with a tink!
Besides, I wouldnt want it anywhere near me now!
Cheers!
Littleenki
It was Me, and They gave Me the shot. Was supposed to be an "IV injection," but was injected into the back of My hand. And there is a lump there - smallish, but a lump.
So... I am nearly certain I was chipped.
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 02, 2012, 03:06:49 PM
It was Me, and They gave Me the shot. Was supposed to be an "IV injection," but was injected into the back of My hand. And there is a lump there - smallish, but a lump.
So... I am nearly certain I was chipped.
I wonder if theres a doctor who will look into that for you, at social services...oh wait they are the ones who do it...argh!
Im not a big fan of the movie saw, but do you have some alchohol and an xacto knife?
I know if it werent on my arm, I wouldve done it myself long before I had, but thats not something easy to do.
And we cant use that method on the youtube video you posted a while back, as it would probably stop your heart.
I wonder what can be done to negate it's operation?
Oh dear, what to do.....
Behave like they want us to? never!
Littleenki
I'm not sure I could cut it out M'self. I would love to, but cannot work and go into a trance against the pain at the same time.
Someday someOne will help Me be rid of it.
And You bet We will never cower and comply. We are free Humans, Their equals. And the more They try to make Us Theirs, the more We will push back.
QuoteThe U.S. government is developing implantable sensor microchips for use in American troops, supposedly to monitor their health on the battlefield, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) announced earlier this year seeking proposals. But critics of the scheme are speaking out, warning that the new technology could just be a prelude to expanding the use of related devices among the general population — with dangerous implications for freedom and privacy.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/11286-us-military-seeking-implantable-microchips-in-soldiers (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/11286-us-military-seeking-implantable-microchips-in-soldiers)
Excerpts of Key Microchip Implants Media Articles from Major Media:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/microchipsimplantsmediaarticles (http://www.wanttoknow.info/microchipsimplantsmediaarticles)
It is most definitely, in my own opinion, going to be implemented. The only question is when.
J
Exactly, Lady. It's on Their agenda, even. They have stated outright that They plan to chip Us all.
This chip the sheeple thing was trumpeted by the ex wisconsin governor Tommy Thompson just after he departed wisconsin and went to washington to be on bushes cabinet as health secretary or other.
Tommy pushed this chip by saying he and his family will be the first to have it installed. But when questioned later if he has one installed, old Tommy shuffled around as he avoided answering that.
Turns out Tommy was on a board for digital angel the chip the maker. Digital angel has gone thru some name changes but is still in affect as verichip and obamacare has a provision in it for the sheeple to be chipped.
BUT, dear readers,
Wisconsin legislature made it a law in 2006 nobody here in Wisconsin will be chipped by law. So that chumps obamacares chip the sheeple provision in Wisconsin
(http://s24.postimg.org/ywdvs63lh/No_Chip_Wisc.jpg)
REALLY PEOPLE......AGAIN
hey JonahQ.... please don't be a troublemaker..you have something to say.. say it
smirky hit and run isn't a good thing
here's the facts which seemed to be ignored..geeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
http://news.msn.com/rumors/rumor-obamacare-requires-microchip-implants?stay=1
The rumor mill says all Americans will be implanted with a microchip that links to bank accounts and health records, under Affordable Health Care Act rules.
FALSE: It's not true. The Affordable Care Act doesn't require microchipping.
UPDATE: "The 'Obamacare' RFID chips are currently being given a test run on the proud and patriotic citizens of Hanna, Wyoming," states a NationalReport.net story shared around the Web and mistaken as real by some. "I've had people call from all over the U.S., from citizens to pastors to doctors, asking if this is really true," Hanna Town Clerk Vivian Gonzales told the Casper Star-Tribune. But it's not true. It's satire. "All news articles contained within National Report are fiction, and presumably fake news," reads a disclaimer at NationalReport.net, a satirical publication. "Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental."
ORIGINAL STORY:
A rumor seen around the Internet says all Americans will be implanted with a microchip in the hand or neck in 2013, under Obamacare rules, thus "making America the first nation in the world" to require a chip "for the purpose of controlling medical care," as Newswithviews.com puts it.
Some versions of the rumor claim the chips will link to bank accounts and health records, and make it possible for the government to track people.
It's false, assures such myth-busting sites as Snopes.com and WafflesatNoon, as well as ObamaCareFacts.com, a site run by private citizens.
Where the myth came from
An early version of the Affordable Care Act bill made reference to a "registry" and a "device that is implantable," but the meaning of that wording was misconstrued by the rumor mill. Here's that dry section of the bill: "The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the 'registry') to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that — (A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and '(B) is a class III device; or (ii) a class II device that is implantable."
Related: 13 states rebelling against Obamacare
Don't worry, the term "device" means things like pacemakers or hip replacements, and section's wording is about making sure they're working correctly, Snopes notes. "Absolutely nothing in those bills required that patients receive any type of implantable device (microchip or otherwise) or authorized the government to mandate the implantation of devices in patients."
Related: Obama talks up health care rebates, lower premiums
It's irrelevant anyway. The final version of Obamacare passed by Congress doesn't even mention a registry. "Search the text of the law yourself. You won't find any mention of a national medical device registry," says Irregulartimes.com.
Still, that doesn't placate everyone who believes the rumor. "Though the legislation itself does not mandate this technology be used," states TheNewAmerican.com, "the implantation of Radio Frequency Identification chips (RFID) into all persons within the government's healthcare system for purposes of 'prevention, detection and treatment of diseases' is a primary objective of a number of government officials and industry proponents. Whether or not they will be successful in doing so remains to be seen."
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http://people.howstuffworks.com/obamacare-microchips.htm
Does 'Obamacare' require Americans to be implanted with microchips?
by Maria Trimarchi
It sounds like something straight from the plot of a sci-fi movie: By 2015, all Americans will be implanted with a microchip per order of Obamacare.
Truth be told, there is a chip program under Obamacare, but not the kind some may think. It's CHIP, the Children's Health Insurance Program -- it doesn't require any implanted microchips, but is there to provide insurance to low-income kids who fall into the grey area where they aren't eligible for Medicaid benefits but also come from families who can't afford the cost of private health insurance.
But CHIP was not the problem when the bill H.R. 3200, called America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, was drafted. It was the idea of a national medical device registry, a database intended to monitor the medical devices used to save and improve our lives.
In H.R. 3200, in the middle of a lot of legislative writing about health care exchange systems and loan programs for health care workers is a section detailing that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) establish a national medical device registry. It's this national medical device registry that has ignited the microchip myth. What is the registry for, and what devices are they registering? What are these implanted devices, and who has them? Myths continue to surround the legislation, but microchips? Well, when you refer to your desired database as the national medical device post-market surveillance system it's bound to happen that someone will misinterpret its purpose. H.R. 3200 is not the bill that was passed into law, though -- that was bill H.R. 3590, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010, colloquially known as Obamacare, and now public law 111-148. And there is no language in the public law stating -- or suggesting -- that all Americans will be implanted with microchips. There wasn't language like that in the earlier version of the bill, either.
In light of all this misunderstanding, let's talk about this medical device registry and what the purpose was supposed to be, for when the idea comes around again.
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp
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http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-microchip-implant.php
ObamaCare Implant: ObamaCare Microchip RFID Myth
What is the Truth Behind the ObamaCare Microchip Implant Rumor
ObamaCare Implant; we get daily emails on the ObamaCare microchip implant / RFID chip. Instead of discussing the ObamaCare microchip implant myth with each person, we have created a page to help our readers better understand what ObamaCare really does. Before we dive deeper into the "chip myth" lets clear the air right now. The myth comes from a purposeful mis representation of the truth. The Affordable Care Act (the official name for ObamaCare) contains no wording whatsoever about a mandatory RFID chip implant.
Well, I will say for sure that maybe O"care" does not (yet) mandate RFID. BUT... As one of the articles pointed out, that is the goal of many. So O"care" backed off on that - for now. The "device" clause that is no longer in the legislation is SAID to be for hips and hearts. But if They add that back in it COULD be used for RFID, too.
what you fail to understand is that there is no need to chip you..
if you have a cell phone or a computer of any type..they know everything already
and have it on file
if you use a bank.. they have it on file and in the computer
if you get any type of gov assistant on anything.. they have it on file and in the computer
if you went to the doctor or hospital they have it on file
if you have bought anything and not paid cash.. you are in a computer file
why would they waste the time and money to chip anyone
think about it
the only thing you can do is live in a cave with no utilities and pay cash for anything you buy
otherwise .. they have you on file
absolutely no need for a chip or psy ops.....you are already on file and easily assessed
resistance is already futile..
:(
I like the cave deal, I have my eye on one now. There is a natural cave up where the folks live that has an opening like an eye. We are trying to find out if we can buy that land and turn it into a real Bat cave. It has only 1 problem, it is on the other side of the river with no bridge that I can find yet. But people live over there somehow. All I need to do is add cash and I will be off the circuit.
I have to get another good camera again.
Deuem
Hi all,
I am going to say good and valid points made by all,
and to add one valid point; the time this takes to
implement there will be no more chips.
The tracking will be done by way of an an obscure
means, likely an invisible tattoo. Invisible RFID tattoo
tracking; it has already been implemented in lab animals.
Not to say this will be THE method, just pointing out
that technology will make it so that a mark on the hand
or the forehead will be seemingly inconsequential to
the participants. Of course, in my humble opinion.