OK it's all yours, my freinds, pour your hearts out here, let me know what you think of SEARL, his ideas, his technology.
We need to know if it works or not. We need more proof maybe?
IMO he's either nutty as a fruit cake, or an eccentric genius comparable to Einstein.....What do you think?
Yeah i just read your post about the S.E.G. that we are being (allowed) to see.
I think Searl is probably sand-bagging, he has had his stuff stolen twice and his house burnt down, so one can understand his reticence for displaying the full and genuine article.
As you say..the displayed item is not the same as the original, it may be that the display item is a simplified model for measurement of forces and not the actual generator, this would be a wise choice IMHO.
By displaying a research component People can get the general principal while the final design remains a trade secret....Searl is very much in the development for final production stage...with that comes all sorts of safety regs and such which can mean some serious alterations from the original design.
We will know within a year or two....i hope it does work...can't wait to tell the Electricity companies where to go and have my own free power. 8)
Cosmic..
We've got enough plans to build one! LOL
Read the Roschin & Godin 'poor man's searl' thread i just posted 8)
Thing is, i've studied the SEG, IGV, & Searl himself for 10 years.
I've argued the case back & forth for 3 years solid on YooToob (funny it get's 404'ed when i look for that topic now ::) )
And i was forced to concede that the 1 ring SEG is easily made, but does it prove overunity, or antigravity?
We need more proof, Roschin & Godin had a go...with some interesting results, to say the least......
I need more proof, and reading Searl's (terribly written) books is a pain in the butt :D
I have 1000's of docs on this, some are already in the Searl threads, more to come.....
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 13, 2012, 12:29:00 AM
We've got enough plans to build one! LOL
Read the Roschin & Godin 'poor man's searl' thread i just posted 8)
Thing is, i've studied the SEG, IGV, & Searl himself for 10 years.
I've argued the case back & forth for 3 years solid on YooToob (funny it get's 404'ed when i look for that topic now ::) )
And i was forced to concede that the 1 ring SEG is easily made, but does it prove overunity, or antigravity?
We need more proof, Roschin & Godin had a go...with some interesting results, to say the least......
I need more proof, and reading Searl's (terribly written) books is a pain in the butt :D
I have 1000's of docs on this, some are already in the Searl threads, more to come.....
I don't think it proves over-unity...never liked that phrase as it stems from a narrow Newtonian world view IMHO......what it alludes to is an inward vortex....it draws electrons in..rather like Schaubergers Implosion.....which is why it runs cold and gets colder....it may even be creating some sort of well in the Aether rather like a Tornado....forcing electrons inward until it reaches electron saturation ?....after saturation the lift and plasma/photon effects begin.....definitely something real is occurring.
I guess we will have to build some in our various locations....getting hold of rare Earth magnets of sufficient quality ....know any good suppliers ?
Where's Unit 16 electronics division when you them eh ? :D
Cosmic..
The best i've used so far is from Supermagnete.com
They can magnetise them any which way, even multiple poles, like you would need on an SEG roller LOL!
'off-the-shelf' spaceship........ ::)
Not sure what the issue is with the term "overunity." It means more power out than put in to operate the system. In essence, then, "free energy." But of course, not free from the standpoint of costs to build and maintain the system, in the shortrun. In the longrun, however, if all things are powered with overunity devices, the need for money will dissipate and there will be no "costs" to build and maintain the devices, and so, it truly will be free energy. Free everything else, too.
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 13, 2012, 07:48:33 PM
Not sure what the issue is with the term "overunity." It means more power out than put in to operate the system. In essence, then, "free energy." But of course, not free from the standpoint of costs to build and maintain the system, in the shortrun. In the longrun, however, if all things are powered with overunity devices, the need for money will dissipate and there will be no "costs" to build and maintain the devices, and so, it truly will be free energy. Free everything else, too.
True, Amy,
It will be free, once the first generator goes online, and the energy to build and start up subsequent generators will be provided by the first one.
Once the unity is free, we can achieve real free "overunity"
I wonder what the wear is like on those expensive layered rollers, and how the lifespan to cost ratio would be compared to something that is non contact, like a maglev. Also dielectric breakdown would be a problem also, and to use something like silicone for the dielectric, impregnated with barium titanate powder might be the key to longevity.
Ill be looking into it much more tonight, and find Searl fascinating overall!
Cheers!
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 13, 2012, 07:48:33 PM
Not sure what the issue is with the term "overunity." It means more power out than put in to operate the system. In essence, then, "free energy." But of course, not free from the standpoint of costs to build and maintain the system, in the shortrun. In the longrun, however, if all things are powered with overunity devices, the need for money will dissipate and there will be no "costs" to build and maintain the devices, and so, it truly will be free energy. Free everything else, too.
I believe devices like Searl's S.E.G. are actually tapping into the energy reservoir we call the Aether/Zero-point Field.
I use the term tap as that is exactly what it is doing...it is not producing energy....it is funneling the energy that is all around us...therefore it is not over-unity.
The term over-unity is one of the semantic weapons used by the PTB to confuse and divert attention away from the free energy that surrounds us.
In a similar fashion to the Searl S.E.G. a waterwheel taps the energy from a flowing river, coupled to a generator it produces electricity...is that over-unity ? No it is not....but once installed it is free energy.
The Searl S.E.G. is IMHO an Aether waterwheel for want of a better description.
Cosmic..
Quote from: Cosmic4life on July 13, 2012, 10:14:26 PM
I believe devices like Searl's S.E.G. are actually tapping into the energy reservoir we call the Aether/Zero-point Field.
I use the term tap as that is exactly what it is doing...it is not producing energy....it is funneling the energy that is all around us...therefore it is not over-unity.
The term over-unity is one of the semantic weapons used by the PTB to confuse and divert attention away from the free energy that surrounds us.
In a similar fashion to the Searl S.E.G. a waterwheel taps the energy from a flowing river, coupled to a generator it produces electricity...is that over-unity ? No it is not....but once installed it is free energy.
The Searl S.E.G. is IMHO an Aether waterwheel for want of a better description.
Cosmic..
I see Your point, Cosmic, and yes, that's exactly what it's doing, tapping into the energy all around Us. But it IS overunity, if unity is seen as the point at which the usable energy output is equal to the usable energy input. Until the tap is made, the aether energy is not usable. We convert it into usable energy with an overunity device.
With that definition of unity, then technically a water wheel is indeed overunity. Without the extraction device of the waterwheel, the energy in the water is unusable.
Cosmic, youve got a point there, Amy too.
"Tapping" into the ALL which is the aether or ZPE or what have you is the only way to achieve overunity, and for this to occur may be a result of something we havent even considered yet.
A conduit between dimensions? Which stays open while the SEG is operating, and a device that actually links two dimensions or more together?
A fellow named Barclay had shared his device with me recently, and its a sort of Field frequency modulator which doesnt negate gravity, it shifts into different dimensions through a sort of portal in the center of it.
His device uses magnets which rotate and shift up and down while operating, a bit like the SEG would, and it is described as a non linear time field frequency modulator. Not a generator, but an actual "time travel device"
http://www.gravitycontrol.org/projectunity1.html
Im not sold on it or his theory yet, so see what you guys can glean from this link, hes a pretty unique guy with a unique device similar to a SEG.
Cheers
Dave
I'm not sure where to post this - do I start a new thread under "The Inventors...?"
I am just thinking about all this talk about energy from "another dimension" and so many thinking We are taking that energy away from that dimension... Yet it is pouring into Our 3D+1 universe in staggering quantities. All We're doing is taking energy that is here already and converting it into useful energy. Not stripping energy that doesn't exist here from another place.
I wanted to start a thread about that but don't know where I should do it.
Amy, just start a thread on it in the old forum area for now, i can always move it here ;)
Great work folks, lm really proud of you...
Later!
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 14, 2012, 06:32:08 PM
Amy, just start a thread on it in the old forum area for now, i can always move it here ;)
Great work folks, lm really proud of you...
Later!
That's a plan...but I don't want thread participants to say, "Hey. Where was that thread I was posting to???" I mean the ones who are not participants in this little corner.
I see your point, a lot of this can be posted in the open forums, it's just that i think we can work quietly in this area & post tidbits of our research outside (once we have something worth posting.
The main point is, we can work in peace & quiet here.
I,m posting via mobile & it's raining, so i have to go, all questions will be adressed next week :)
Thanks again, what i'm reading here is super & positive, i love you all....
I'll go ahead & post out there. [smile] We may or may not want to move it.
PWM or anyone, does the searl effect has EG in it. In Paul LaV. Book Secrets of Anti-gravity Propulsion, He Believes that EG is also part of how it works. -dcooper
Err, Yes.
All I want to know is where did he park this one?
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Searl/igv.gif)
;) ;D
that looks like a tramoline blow in the wind.... :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Searl/7searl.gif)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Searl/searl22.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Searl/searl26.jpg)
AS far as SEG is concerned, I have read here is is a "Tapping" of sort's. Personally I believe it too be a "Manipulation of ambient gravitational fields" not so much the latter.
Have discussed Searl many times and is quite an amazing man for his research and findings.
"Say Z, didn't you have an article about when Searl had tested one of his devices and it was not tethered or something and it became an orbital situation?" Can't for the life of me find that entry for this incident, but when I think of the SEG, it is the first thing that comes too mind.
If this is not or wasn't you Z, I apologize a head of time, but remember this event distinct-fully happening with notes too back it up.
1Worldwatcher
QuoteWhen Searl first activated his device, the rollers (rotors) began to rotate around the plate (stator), generating a charge-pumping action on an open circuit configuration. At threshold speed, the device maintained its rotation with no additional energy input from the peripheral electromagnets. In the case of the original prototype, however, Searl had not provided a dampening mechanism, which caused a positive energy feedback loop to occur (circuit virtually closed) as the machine charged or ionized the air surrounding it, causing the device to accelerate. Eventually the generator experienced a severe drop in temperature inversely proportional to the increasing electric current as the electrical resistance decreased into lines predicted by the Pinch (plasma physics) effect. The random kinetic energy of the electrons became uniform in motion (physics), directly resulting in very high electron velocity, and thus the SEG quickly achieved superconductivity at extremely low temperatures. In this state, quantum tunneling electrons surged through the generator in the form of unimpeded Cooper pairs, resulting in very high negative potentials at the device's periphery.
Through a process similar to ionization, a pink halo formed about the machine and intense electric fields repelled the surrounding negatively charged air strongly enough to form a vacuum. This vacuum and the geometry of the SEG prevented flashover of the millions of volts generated. The energy levels escalated enormously as the SEG effectively absorbed or converted the ambient temperature and all other environmental sources of the electromagnetic spectrum immediately surrounding the machine into useful electrical power. The process is believed to strip the electron's kinetic energy by rectifying its normally random motional state in to a uniform state, accelerating it back into the environment, where the electrons regain normal levels of kinetic energy. The SEG's electric fields would then re-attract the surrounding electrons through the relativity positive center of the generator creating a continuous cycle, a process that Prof. Searl has described as an "electron ramjet".
Upon reaching a threshold level of efficiency, the generator's weight dramatically decreased to a negative state at very cold temperatures. The SEG's mass inertia concurrently also inverted its state which effectively created what may be termed as an anti-gravity machine with superconductivity due to the extreme electrical and spin-orbital rotating magnetic fields. Then most unexpectedly, the SEG promptly shot through the roof of Searl's lodge and was never seen again.
Several more units were made and lost outdoors until he incorporated a dielectric layer to its construction and the practical power generator (SEG) was thus realized.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ0WP44viGY
Yes, thats the story Z, thanks for getting it posted, talk about a story to render the imagination rather perplexed!! LOL Great stuff for sure.
1Worldwatcher
Well, you guys have been busy 8)
Thanks for posting the info on The Machine, Z :D
But...I have been studying this for 12 years now. I even have Searls e-mail & have spoken to him & Terry Moore a few times. They are very dedicated in their work, but there is also a lot of controversy surrounding them.
I won't say yes or no, but i still need to see a working SEG with all three rings and one that is obviously generating excess power.
The 'one ring' model used in the videos is nothing more than an induction motor, unless i can prove otherwise.
The same goes for the STEORN motor.....
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on August 30, 2012, 12:01:08 PM
But...I have been studying this for 12 years now. I even have Searls e-mail & have spoken to him & Terry Moore a few times. They are very dedicated in their work, but there is also a lot of controversy surrounding them.
If you are in communication PWM, you should enlightened information then? Come on, we can handle it..lol
Seriously though, would love too hear how you got his Email and if you have conversed over such matters as we have discussed endlessly here. :0
QuoteI won't say yes or no, but i still need to see a working SEG with all three rings and one that is obviously generating excess power.
So, you are saying everything I have read on Searl is fraudulent or just theoretical, no machine, no test drive, just hype? I hope not, have been reading materials on him ever since Z had introduced me to his works.
QuoteThe 'one ring' model used in the videos is nothing more than an induction motor, unless i can prove otherwise.
The same goes for the STEORN motor.....
Though I do wish we had the video of the first prototype crashing through the ceiling of his research area, I am still leaning that the sciences aren't being shared as diligently as one may hope.
I can only imagine what was going through the on lookers minds when this had taken place, but now I am left too question PWM...lol...Thanks a lot.
1Worldwatcher
I didn't want to put anyone off, Searl has a lot of technical/engineering know-how, but he is also highly eccentric ::)
'Dr' Terry moore is actually a doctor of medicine (homeopath) but is seen standing by a lathe where they were turning the composite rollers.
The problem is, this tech is almost impossible to replicate (unless you go for the Godin/Roschin type setup).
The theory of the squares is complex, and at first glance appears to work, but again we are working with something that has no precedent.
The similarity to this with O.T.Carr & other types is in the rotating magnet system, which we will be doing some experiments on soon, once i have a few of the current projects finished up.
I have posted plenty of links to his work, and his 500-page 'inventions' dossier is well worth reading, but you will have to dig through page after page of irrelevant nonsense before you find one page that is useful.
I can't read the mails from then (10 years ago) because they are on a dead PC that will have to be ressurected soon in order to read that drive... 8)
The youtube discussions went on for years & i was forced to concede that 1; the model being shown was getting more than 2 volts input, that 2; the coils on the outside were clearly firing in sequence to keep the rollers turning and not (as searl states) to keep them from flying off.
However, it is such a novel machine, if proven to work it will solve virtually all our problems. It is said to have positive healing effects, as well as the free energy, and the IGV flying version (which is said to have optical effects like a 'shiny mirror' surface, when at high energy/speed).
They can be made as small as a wristwatch or as big as a house, depending on the power needed, they will never stop, unless damaged or the rollers need re-magnetising....
That's if it works.
What we need is to dig deeper into the fundamentals, materials etc and find out if it works, or not. ::)
The he!! With a bigger boat, I think we need a bigger bank account! LOL!
I just dont see searls generator as a valid place to invest any time myself, as the science is being obscured by his eccentricity and unwillingness to share ALL the details.
What gets my goat is these so called inventors puting stuff out there as if its already solved and operating, when in my opinion, many of them are fishing for ideas from us to finish their work and take the credit when it does work.
Open source or nothing is the key...too many dollars, and yes, lives have been expended in this field for any more what ifs or how do's.
As far as a searl gen, the expense would be great just to get to the place in the video, and even then we have no idea what really is gojng on there.
I totally agree with you Luke, that a G/R style of coil is key, but for other reasons...my view is that a rising and lowering type of device could effectively create a side effect which may be beter than a rotating type effort..just a thought...a bouncing coil array which may effect a sort of vtol force. Like a pogo stick? A start at least, as the repulsion of two fields can be pretty springy.:-)
Cheers,
Dave
Exactly, Dave
QuoteOpen source or nothing is the key...too many dollars, and yes, lives have been expended in this field for any more what ifs or how do's.
By all means people are free to examine & speculate on this, but i didn't want the inventors group wasting too much time on something we can't build, or prove.
Gravitor research on the other hand, is fairly easy to do & (with a little investment) can be proven to work.
The whole rotation thing is important for me because it is the key to inertia control.
First up, some plasma control experiments.
(forgot the blasted grapes again, didn't i?) :P
Dave, regarding your 2 field 'pogo stick' theory...
A long time ago, i had this thought:
Does a magnetic field (artificial) remain in space for a measurable amount of time, after the current has ceased to flow. ???
Does said magnetic field exist long enough to push against ???
If so, we need only to produce magnetic fields that rapidly change, and push against them.
Literally 'pushing against the aether' as it were.....
This is one of my childhood ideas, god help us what i will think of tomorrow...
8)
I personally think that Searl had got one of those "Ah-ha!!" moments and really didn't count on the research producing what it had. I was introduced too the SEG by Z and Matyas (AKA-Janitor) back in 2005. Before then, never heard of Searl, but have been deducing that these extended events of prototype's testing have something to them, especially the story that Z had posted about the device climbing to heights and out of this world, which is exactly where we want to be as far 'Craft' capabilities are concerned.
One thing I must add here though to PWM advisement of the whole Magnetic bearing apparatus is "I don't think it is a flat plane surface that the magnets travel/orbit with in or on, I think they are laying/orbiting on a bearing race, dynamically designed to do a few things at the same time." Similar too what we see on vehicles and the wheel bearing's that keep the friction down due too a camber to the interior and over laying exterior cuts of such thing as a race.
Though these 'Races' would be of an exotic type of material, I do still think it is in the best interest to follow old sciences when it comes to Mechanical or moving parts. Give me a second here, I am going to find an example for you guy's too better understand why I feel this way.."Lets all go too the Lobby, lets all go too the Lobby, Let's all go too the Lobby too get ourselves some treats!!" LOL (Glad you can't hear me singing that too you...Ha ha ha!!)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/RodBearingAssemblyWRace.jpg)
As you can see there is a slight angle of the race causing less frictional consistencies while temps are a major problem with high speed speeding of such thing's, makes absolute sense to achieve most optimal angular placements of such things. Even in a device such as SEG, it has too be a major player as too it's efficiency and over all operation and desired outcome.
I do not how much of auto mechanics is known between us here, but I for one have been doing my own vehicle work since I could see over the fender!! "Combustion engine questions" you betcha, SEG operating systems? Not so much....:P LOL
1Worldwathcer
A very good point!
That's another unique facet of Searl's design. He claims that because the rollers are 'floating' on this sinewave, they are not in contact with either the inner ring or the outer one.
Being frictionless, they can move at extreme speeds, never get hot, never wear out.
Going from memory, he also tried to patent this as a 'frictionless, oil-free' bearing.
It may be worth someone's time to find out if such a thing now exists?
I know that companies like ASML use magnetic & electrostatic bearings to move machine tables with unsurpassed speed & prescision.
Still that conundrum, much of what Searl says makes sense, yet we have zero proof that it works, even in the 'mock-up' SEG the rollers are clearly in contact with the ring, and can only revolve at low speeds before flying off, as indeed happens, take it from me ;)
Searl claims that, with the outer ring in place, this will not happen.
This doesn't explain how he keeps the outer set of rolers in place in the full blown IGV, or in the SEG itself.
The only way to do this would be to exponentially increase the magnetic field (i.e. the imprinted sinewave) as the rollers accellerate.
Obviously, at very high speeds, a 1 kilo roller will be pushing away from the ring with thousands of tons of force, so how is that going to be countered?
Too many uncertainties, the story continues, i've forgotten more than i can remember on Searl, those texts i read years ago, so you are all invited to look for clues i may have missed.
Thanks for the acknowledgment on the 'Race' implications PWM!!
One thing that I do see with in this type of tech is something that was stated by none other than Boyd Bushman (Lockheed Martin Sci. research Chair) and his study with magnetic influences with in opposed magnetic fields and their effects with both gravitational free fall and Spectrography that has been recorded of the before and after of these rare earth magnets.
As I understand it, Boyd had taken two REMs and placed them filed neg. too field Pos and then encased them with in a rock/ceramic substance and then pulled a number of wittinesses (None educated with in the Scientific field of discussion) and dropped each object (One with magnets, one without) from a stair well of about 30 feet. Then he took the wittinesses observational testimonies and compared them with how often he would have dropped one wit and without the magnets, 9 out of 10 X's , the observer thought that the one with Magnets fell much slower without any knowledge of what was with in it's encapsulating surface. Which, in itself, is quite fascinating to say the least.
Though I am relating this info as multiple party understanding, and after the visual tests were done, he also discovered that once the Magnets were 'Smashed' together, the magnetic spectrograph measured a 3X ambient distance of what they would be in their normal state of self or singular, which in turn says much about the influences that they have on one another as far as force distribution and cause and effects when they are with in their separate Fields.
Like I said , I have only been privy too this by wanting too learn more, and with the evidence that was acquired from the study shows that magnetics may be the way to go as far as a SEG bearing system for low too no friction implications.
I am almost sure you have heard of this before, but wanted to throw it out there for what it is worth for further understanding of the "Hows" too the SEG technologies.
With the composite of the race being the proper type, charge or magnetic state, may be the reason for the unusual affects that has seemingly been researched since the discovery had even taken place.
Hope I am adding to this conversation and not under minding it for advancement, but sticks in my Craw when thinking of this unique device so openly talked about.
With Great Respect,
1Worldwatcher
I apreciate your thoughts, Bill.
Bushman was in a position to get some of the best brains in the country working for him, and an almost blank chequebook from Lockheed, they must have done some amazing things....
It would seem that Searl has designed the 'perfect machine' but again no hard evidence for that.
What i find most interesting is the 'russian seg' experiment, and a few other similar devices (O.T. Carr springs to mind) that all lean in the same direction, so it's not just an isolated case of Searl inventing something with spinning magnets, there's Ed Leedskalnin there as well.....
Lots of links, coincidences, it's these very tidbits of info that makes the case more interesting...wer'e by no means finished with Searl, but i would tend to place more emphasis on what we already know, & where to go from here...
Once i get my old PC revived, yet more files will be found.
This is fun!
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 02, 2012, 07:46:36 PM
I apreciate your thoughts, Bill.
Bushman was in a position to get some of the best brains in the country working for him, and an almost blank chequebook from Lockheed, they must have done some amazing things....
Yes, I agree, but the thing that I liked about him most was his candor in discussing such thing's as too give the public "Awareness' knowledge. Money of course always helps!! LOL ; ::)
QuoteIt would seem that Searl has designed the 'perfect machine' but again no hard evidence for that.
I am harnessed to believe that some of the video footage we are watching my be factual events. But, with your association of Mr. Searl, I was forced too rethink my original assumptions. So, now am on the fence.. but have a feeling there is something too this contraption.
QuoteWhat i find most interesting is the 'russian seg' experiment, and a few other similar devices (O.T. Carr springs to mind) that all lean in the same direction, so it's not just an isolated case of Searl inventing something with spinning magnets, there's Ed Leedskalnin there as well.....
Can agree with this statement here, there are a few Countries doing the research on these types of devices, and then again, leaves me too assume that the sciences for this research were laid down for the rest to extrapolate on for advancement. IMHO
QuoteLots of links, coincidences, it's these very tidbits of info that makes the case more interesting...wer'e by no means finished with Searl, but i would tend to place more emphasis on what we already know, & where to go from here...
Yes, bits and pieces, "Have you gave any consideration to my idea of Lateral Coil field?" Just curious.. ;)
QuoteOnce i get my old PC revived, yet more files will be found. This is fun!
I am hoping it is soon if it contains more explanations of the questions still lingering over this research. As you know, I am not a scientist, just a enthusiast. Thanks for being so helpful.. 8)
With Great Respect,
1Worldwathcer
Hello everyone,
Thought I would bump this thread with a few questions about th e whole SEARL SEG device.
I was doing some research with a known dealer with in the Toroid manufacturing company, it is known as AC Town, they are located at http://www.actown.com (http://www.actown.com)
With in those pages, I read up on how they configure specific turns and wraps too each and every application, and knowing that the SEG is based on a *sine of mathematics with in such fields, "Wouldn't it be feasible too find such an elusive configuration as too it's gradient of the Magnets are being applied?"
Most of all depictions I have seen very greatly in both design and applications of bearing system riding at particular chord degree's, is the *sine with in this variance of apparently inclined races that hold the apparatus supposedly together?
For the materials that are involved, I have little too no experimental time, is it as simple as this for materials needed?
Quote
slide 2 of 5
Construction
The arrangement of the Searl Effect Generator (SEG) consists of a series of three magnetic rings and cylindrical counterparts. The three magnetic rings acts as a stator and the oppositely magnetized cylindrical parts acts as a rotor.
Thus the construction of the generator consists of an arrangement with first, a magnetic ring, and then a series of rollers. This pattern repeats alternately till the last magnetic ring. The SEG works on the principle of a linear induction motor.
The SEG is made up of four different materials and the layering sequence is the same for both rotor and stator.
The materials are:
Neodymium– This bright silvery metal is extremely rare and is used to collect free electrons and also to act as reservoir.
Teflon or Nylon 66- Acts like a gate, regulating the flow of electrons to the next layer.
Permanent magnet material- Acts as an accelerator for electrons, helping them during the change in magnetic field while revolving and orbiting rollers around the stator ring.
Copper- Acts like an emitter of high velocity electrons from Neodymium and develops eddy currents between the stator and rotor.
So, if one were here to wager a guess as too why this is such a hard effect to reproduce, or has insight into why we can't reproduce this (i.e. Hoax) Is it safe too assume that we are not looking in the right area of speculation? That not only is the exact *sine eluding us, but the exact math behind it all?
I do feel that the acclimation of toroid would increase Power/ Volt out put with minimal input, but did SEG actually improvise such secrets as toroid magnifier for his apparatus too work?
And as far as the "Frictionless, Oil Less Bearing" research? Only pulled up know artists renderings of SEG type of bearing systems. So, basically, couldn't find a verifiable website for it being a real working invention, Maglev was the closest thus far in my study of such bearing systems.
1WW
Ran across this website dedicated too Searl for the scientist he is, not sure of the topic or location has been brought up before, but seems very informative for research implications.
John Searl Official Website:
http://www.searlsolution.com/ (http://www.searlsolution.com/)
Very perplexing situation here with device and videos and hoaxing going on, cloak and dagger...LOL
I am hoping that looking deeper into this SEG device yields more for our understanding of how too do what needs too be done more efficiently and cost effectively.
Will have to keep digging, for the most part.
1WW
The difficult areas are, that the neodymium has to be very pure, quite a large ring, that has to have exact dimensions. It has to be pressed, sintered, & plated in an oxygen-free chamber (argon if i remember, as it's very inert).
Then the ring (& the rollers) have to be magnetised using both DC & AC in the coils, this would give the sinewave pattern. Just like making a recording on tape, but with much greater power, at least 10Kw i would think.
The rest is real easy to make, but those first 2 obstacles have to be overcome.
And even then we have no idea if it will work or not, which is a rather expensive gamble.
That's why we should keep an eye on Searl, and can even study his work, which is mostly linked here, & maybe he's been releasing more since then?
By all means find stuff & report it back, but i wouldn't waste too much time on Searl, we have plenty of valid projects that we CAN make......
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 17, 2012, 05:06:48 PM
The difficult areas are, that the neodymium has to be very pure, quite a large ring, that has to have exact dimensions. It has to be pressed, sintered, & plated in an oxygen-free chamber (argon if i remember, as it's very inert).
Sorry Luke, was going to look into materials and cost rates, should have done that before posting my find.
QuoteThen the ring (& the rollers) have to be magnetised using both DC & AC in the coils, this would give the sinewave pattern. Just like making a recording on tape, but with much greater power, at least 10Kw i would think.
Yes, I can see where this type of research couldn't be done any other way without being absolutely sure this device is even fact based for research. Still wish we did have that kind of $ flow too just see though!! ;)
QuoteThe rest is real easy to make, but those first 2 obstacles have to be overcome.
And even then we have no idea if it will work or not, which is a rather expensive gamble.
Keep our noses to the grind stone as it were.
QuoteThat's why we should keep an eye on Searl, and can even study his work, which is mostly linked here, & maybe he's been releasing more since then?
By all means find stuff & report it back, but i wouldn't waste too much time on Searl, we have plenty of valid projects that we CAN make......
I will always be doing that, watching and learning, as for the rest of the information coming in, I am anxious too see what you have thus far with in your research Luke.
1WW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d1GO7rqg6Q
Sure hope Searl has a chance to see His work proliferate before He is deceased.
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That's going to be FUN!
Midnight tomorrow CET...wouldnt miss it for the world, except maybe to get a few hours sleep, i have to get up at 5 AM ::)
It would be ultra-cool if someone could record it for me, or link it when it's done by somebody else.....
But i doubt we will be hearing anything new.
@1WW
Electrical Properties of Plastic Materials: http://www.professionalplastics.com/professionalplastics/ElectricalPropertiesofPlastics.pdf (http://www.professionalplastics.com/professionalplastics/ElectricalPropertiesofPlastics.pdf)
A Quasi-Optical Free-Space Method for Dielectric Constant Characterization of Polymer Materials in mm-wave Band :
http://photonics-benelux.org/proc07/s07p187.pdf (http://photonics-benelux.org/proc07/s07p187.pdf)