Remember our goal folks, is to prove these theories one way or another.
Have fun!
8)
This is from Amaterasu's post in the Podkletnov Anti-Gravity thread which is locked:
On the other hand gravitational shocks associated with electric shock discharges travel superluminally because the shock propels the ether forward in the direction of gravity wave travel. This is why Podkletnov gets the results he does. This interpretation of Podkletnov's beam and the Obolensky experiment is presented in Chapter 6 of my book Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion
(etheric.com/LaVioletteBooks/Book-Secrets.html).
I agree, movement of ether is always superluminal, waves/particles in the ether are not. Ether may be 2 dimensional, as surface of ocean, but can be modified to 3D giving rise to 3D universe just like ocean waves. Particles are waves after all!!!! There are waves and then there are tsunamis. Tsunamis are MUCH faster than waves.
Gravity Impulse Generator:
(https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanantigravity.com%2Ffiles%2Finterviews%2FPodkletnov-Interview.pdf&docid=215ceafb3c6b55f0b36633a9bbe87d5c&a=bi&pagenumber=8&w=800)
Podkletnov says this is a gravity gun, but I see a propulsion methodology. If the emitter is in the base of a craft, pushing craft and all contents at 64c equally, there would be no inertia to overcome, and the "push" would extend beyond the craft, clearing a path, like the deflector dish on the Enterprise NCC1701. Gravity is a push after all. Push drive! You could really go places getting pushed around the universe at 64c. Maybe a rotating emf in a superconducting disc would create an ether vortex, providing a constant push, instead of just a pulse. Like water going down a drain.... Musings.....
Just in case you might think 2D space/time/ether is a creation of my feeble, disillusioned, schizophrenic, paranoid mind!!! :D :D :D
I am not alone!
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/420717/why-spacetime-on-the-tiniest-scale-may-be-two/
Today, Carlip outlines his own fascinating take on the problem which is that spacetime on the tiniest scale may be two dimensional. While that may seem a little counterintuitive, he says there is a growing number of indicators (evidence is too strong a word) that point to that conclusion.
Carlip says recent work in loop quantum gravity, high temperature string theory, renormalization group analysis applied to general relativity and other areas of quantum gravity research, all hints at a two dimensional spacetime on the smallest scale. In most of these cases, the number of dimensions simply collapse in a process called spontaneous dimensional reduction as the scale reduces.
I think I'll be ok, my doctor said the shadow people aren't real just like the scary noises! :) :) :)
For anyone looking for superconducting disc, this might be a good source.
http://amasci.com/freenrg/bw.txt
(https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_OV6-ZIdV8XiAcHLxz_AgVLNj_aQJdmKFWBHGrRMmir00lmij)
Yes, this is exactly what i wanted Cosmo ;D
feedback, info, discussions, and yes even musings.
Great work dude.
I can't really comment on the 2d stuff until i read it but maybe the 'collapsing dimensions' can go even further to 1, -1 etc..... :o :o
Many theories like String etc propose multiple dimensions in order for all of this (gravity etc) to work. I see charge as being also a dimension, or at least, connecting between dimensions.
Deep stuff indeed, i'm proud of you guys :-*
QuoteToday, Carlip outlines his own fascinating take on the problem which is that spacetime on the tiniest scale may be two dimensional. While that may seem a little counterintuitive, he says there is a growing number of indicators (evidence is too strong a word) that point to that conclusion.
Aha, sounds like well have to name the smallest ideas 2d Sheet theory instead of 4d String theory!LOL!
I find the vortex to be the crux of a free energy device, regardless of what is rotating, the fluid vortex is self regenerating and can effectively be made to feed itself...so its close to unity already without any amplification.
Im looking for a Schauberger thread, Luke, as you know Im a big proponent of vortex technology.
And superconductors are the key, Cosmo, they really can do things that ordinary materials cant...now to harness that into a rotating mass and make it work for us in a vacuum...thats where we should look.
Oh and of course, for lots of money to buy that superconducting disc!;)
Cosmo, are you familiar with negative resistance theory? It is a standard parallel to superconductor tech, and I remember someone in Buffalo finding a material that
exhibits -8 ohms.
heres a quote from the article....
QuoteTwo US scientists claim to have discovered a new electrical effect called negative resistance in carbon-composite materials. And when materials exhibiting negative resistance are combined with 'normal' materials, they appear to have zero resistance to electrical current, similar to superconducting materials. Moreover, this behaviour persists to room temperature, whereas "high-temperature" superconductors only lose their resistance below about 150K or -120 C. The results were presented at fifth International Conference on Composites Engineering in Las Vegas.
Deborah Chung and Shoukai Wang of the University of Buffalo in the US stumbled across this unexpected behaviour whilst researching 'smart' materials. These materials, usually based on carbon fibre, use the electrical resistance of the fibres to monitor the properties of structures such as bridges and buildings. Chung has been careful not to call the material a room temperature superconductor. Instead she calls it "a strange conduction phenomenon called negative resistance."
The phenomenon appears to break one of the fundamental laws of physics - the electrons in the circuit seem to flow towards the negative rather than positive electrode. Chung suspects that the extremely high pressures used to bind the carbon fibber layers together is responsible for the effect. So far, Chung and Wang have demonstrated negative resistances as low as -8 ohms for a contact area of one square centimetre.
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/1998/jul/10/negative-resistance-surprises-material-scientists
With NR, we could build a circuit that could slowly and methodically accelerate a flywheel which could drive a fluid vortex and create a perpetual motion generator with different sections from different fields of research...fluid dynamics, superconductance, and negative resistance electronics. A triple threat?
he!! Yeah!
Sleep well gentlemen!:D
Dave
Dave,
Have You ever head of the closed loop implosion turbine (which I recommend not using the acronym for...)?
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 22, 2012, 05:27:25 PM
Dave,
Have You ever head of the closed loop implosion turbine (which I recommend not using the acronym for...)?
Oh dear, Im not touching that oneLOL!!!!
Could you elaborate a bit? I cant find anything right off on google...maybe its a secret?
Cheers!
Dave
Hmm, anyone want to do a Schauberger thread?
Zorgon posted one already, didn't he?
OK i've got some plans somewhere, that closed loop impulse thingy sounds kinda familiar (the work not the acronym :) )
I think the turbine in this case actually used water??
If you think about it, a common dynamo is a magnetic vortex generator, is it not? OK so we all know Fleming's left-hand rule etc A and B fields etc, but it's also a vortex....Just musing here ::)
Oh yes, the negative resistance effect is real, i've measured it, got down to about -2 ohms, but it wan't what i was looking for at the time LOL! :o
Quote from: Littleenki on July 22, 2012, 05:32:34 PM
Oh dear, Im not touching that oneLOL!!!!
Could you elaborate a bit? I cant find anything right off on google...maybe its a secret?
Cheers!
Dave
It's an invention of My ex's. I was just wondering how far out there He reached in promoting it. Not very far it seems. Back in 2003 We had the opportunity to use rapid prototyping of the unit. Unfortunately, the method available back then did not do what the 3D printers of today do. The material was a weak plastic and could not handle the detail needed, and it did not work.
I wonder if today's equipment would do better... Ah, well. Water under the bridge.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 22, 2012, 05:45:52 PM
Hmm, anyone want to do a Schauberger thread?
Zorgon posted one already, didn't he?
OK i've got some plans somewhere, that closed loop impulse thingy sounds kinda familiar (the work not the acronym :) )
I think the turbine in this case actually used water??
If you think about it, a common dynamo is a magnetic vortex generator, is it not? OK so we all know Fleming's left-hand rule etc A and B fields etc, but it's also a vortex....Just musing here ::)
Oh yes, the negative resistance effect is real, i've measured it, got down to about -2 ohms, but it wan't what i was looking for at the time LOL! :o
The reason I brought up the closed loop implosion turbine is because it was based in Schauberger's work.
That's why i mentioned Schauberger just then ;)
Ive got some files here somewhere, it will have to wait till tomorrow.
Later 8)
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 22, 2012, 05:45:52 PM
Hmm, anyone want to do a Schauberger thread?
Zorgon posted one already, didn't he?
yes he did :P but it was at Open minds I will have to pull it up. I think its on my website still
I REALLY need to get back into the habit of making a thread FIRST on the webpage then copy paste it here
Too much wasted time having to redo it
All the German related Tech was collected by Brotherthebig at ATS
I have all that material and related NAZI tech here..
Turn up the volume :P
Brotherthebig's Files (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/index.html)
There is a LOT of work there, but still its not complete... I have more to add
Viktor Shauberger
Mercury - NAZI Mercury Vortex Tech - Victor Schauberger - Grey Falcon - [Archived]
Viktor Shauberger's Vortex Technology Duplicated
Viktor Schauberger - History on German Wikipedia
Viktor Schauberger; The Repulsine, UFO's and Flying Saucers of Nazi Germany - [Archived]
Water Vortex - Victor Shauberger's antigravity methods 1999
Victor Schauberger Repulsin A&B - (1940-1945) - By Rob Arndt - Grey Falcon - [Archived]
I see that once again some old links are dead again Good thing I archived all those pages :D
Its nice having a few terabytes memory :D and its on a portable drive
Its funny I paid for 6 terabytes at the server and now they are doing unlimited Go figure :P
Brilliant.
We make the 'A' team look like girl guides
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Littleenki on July 22, 2012, 05:05:45 PM
Oh and of course, for lots of money to buy that superconducting disc!;)
So are you implying that we need MONEY to buy stuff to make Free energy stuff?
Hmmmmm
You also need liquid Nitrogen Fortunately that stuff is still legal to possess even for the layman. It is also extremely dangerous to play with... stick your finger in it by accident and your finger will break off and shatter like glass :o
You can buy small amounts to treat warts :P
Liquid Nitrogen is relatively cheap, around $500 per ton and readily available from Gas companies that sell welding and medical gasses
But the containers are not cheap
Amazon has one, a practical small lab size
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/216Lvth4krL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ELFGRU/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B002ELFGRU&link_code=as3&tag=pegasreseacon-20)
Taylor Wharton Liquid Nitrogen Tank, 35L, 11", 6 Canisters
Price: $1,784.81 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ELFGRU/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B002ELFGRU&link_code=as3&tag=pegasreseacon-20)Smaller ones run at 350-500... but don't hold much and Liquid Nitrogen evaporates very quickly
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 22, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Brilliant.
We make the 'A' team look like girl guides
;D ;D ;D
Well Pegasus appreciates all you inventors that will be purchasing their LN tanks...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/pickinonme.gif)
Amazon------>
But seriously... to get any real work done, at some point we would need that evil word... FUNDING
Re Mercury Vortex...
That stuff is deadly even to be near
In China there is an ancient pyramid buried that has a model of the realm. That model had a mercury river. The ground is now so contaminated that NO ONE dares to go dig it up. They know its there because of ground penetrating radar
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/China_Pyramid_08_Qin%20Shihuang.html
Mercury Vortex was what supposedly powered the Ancient Indian Vimana...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47brotherthebig/03files/Vimanas_Mercury_Vortex_Technology.html
Mercury Vortex is supposedly what that TR3-B uses but that craft is 99% disinfo 1% fact :P (promoted mainly by one person with an unknown agenda)
With all the rumors of NAZI UFO's in Antarctica near the end of WWII it is interesting to fins a sunken Uboat off Norway that was carrying a LARGE load of liquid Mercury
That sub is about to become an ecological NIGHTMARE as the canisters are now deteriorating and leaking. They cannot bring them up and last i heard they were trying to find a way to entomb the sub before it destroys the fishing industry in the region due to mercury poisoning
Its so bad that when the inspectors came to sample the tailing (already in barrels) at John's mine for mercury contamination (used for leaching out gold) they would not touch it. We had to fill the specimen jars
Its not nice stuff, even though that mercury used at the mine did come out of the ground in the first place :P Its the concentration that is the issue AND more deadly, the vapor (Its also in fluorescent bulbs FYI so don't be smashing them where you breath ;) )
PS Feel free to split these posts off to a Schauberger discussion :D
QuoteSo are you implying that we need MONEY to buy stuff to make Free energy stuff?
Hmmmmm
Yes, Zorgon, the free part of free energy is once the infrastructure is built, then we can extract the free energy I guess. :P
Thats a cool way to keep the superconducting disc operating, and I have ten fingers, so I can make a mistake or two before it gets gory!LOL!
Im leaning more towards this carbon fiber pressure bonding whereas the material offers negative reistance though...as a friend makes parts for bikes in his shop and has a massive hydraulic press to make the parts very very thin.
Im going to get some cutoffs from him and see what odd effects I can find within them...anyone know how much voltage and current will be involved to see the negative resistance outcome, or will my fluke measure the negative rsistance with its internal power supply?
Cheers!
Le
Dave;
Build a tiny MEG like i did, using Naudin's plans (there is a flaw, you need 2 rewire the coils differently) & you will get negative resistance in anything placed in or near the circuit ;)
Ive seen that Luke, and I have the parts too!
:)
Quote from: Littleenki on July 22, 2012, 11:15:49 PM
Yes, Zorgon, the free part of free energy is once the infrastructure is built, then we can extract the free energy I guess. :P
Thats a cool way to keep the superconducting disc operating, and I have ten fingers, so I can make a mistake or two before it gets gory!LOL!
Im leaning more towards this carbon fiber pressure bonding whereas the material offers negative reistance though...as a friend makes parts for bikes in his shop and has a massive hydraulic press to make the parts very very thin.
Im going to get some cutoffs from him and see what odd effects I can find within them...anyone know how much voltage and current will be involved to see the negative resistance outcome, or will my fluke measure the negative rsistance with its internal power supply?
Cheers!
Le
Le,
In regard to negative resistance, the reminded me of the work of Gabriel Kron:
Gabriel Kron and the Negative Resistor
At the time of his death, Gabriel Kron was arguably the greatest electrical scientist ever produced by the United States.
It appears that the availability of this Heaviside energy component surrounding any portion of the circuit may be the long sought secret to Gabriel Kron's "open path" that enabled him to produce a true negative resistor in the 1930s, as the chief scientist for General Electric on the U.S. Navy contract for the Network Analyzer at Stanford University. Kron was never permitted to release how he made his negative resistor, but did state that, when placed in the Network Analyzer, the generator could be disconnected because the negative resistor would power the circuit. Since a negative resistor converges surrounding energy and diverges it into the circuit, it appears that Kron's negative resistor gathered energy from the Heaviside component of energy flow as an "open path" flow of energy — connecting together the local vicinities of any two separated circuit components — that had been discarded by previous electrodynamicists following Lorentz. Hence Kron referred to it as the "open path."
From Tom Bearden's website:
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/kron.htm
Maybe Kron is worthy of a thread here in the inventors group?
Listening to replay of Coast to Coast on utoob of Nassim Haramein's interview from lastnight. He is talking about the Higgs, and the energy of the vacuum of space. Nice discussion. Quantum fluctuations and more! Well worth a listen!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPjH6rCL-BE
Good one, Cosmo, a 'golden' post... 8)
QuoteMaybe Kron is worthy of a thread here in the inventors group?
Probably, but to tell the truth, i have very little info on him (some old Keeleynet files here somewhere)...
If Zorgon wants to add a Kron thread?
I will have a root around in the hard drives.
The negative resistance, Heaviside layer etc has been observed, the theory is sound, there is plenty of evidence for it.
Think i'll start a 'circuits' thread soon.... :D :o ??? :P
Quote from: zorgon on July 22, 2012, 10:59:34 PM
Well Pegasus appreciates all you inventors that will be purchasing their LN tanks...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/pickinonme.gif)
Amazon------>
But seriously... to get any real work done, at some point we would need that evil word... FUNDING
OF course a quick browse with an alternative supplier can reduce one's outgoings enormously.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Taylor-Wharton-Jencons-35HC-liquid-nitrogen-dewar-with-10-sampel-holders-/230839614092?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Equipment_ET&hash=item35bf1cfa8c
Bid and they can be found even cheaper, of course. IN fact lower in my search I managed to find a £99 BOC dewar. The stuff we need is largely useless to people once their specific need evaporates and useless to most "normal" people too, so the ACTUAL resale value is often an order of magnitude cheaper as soon as you find one outside of the "trade"... However having teh space to actually work, and being able to leave that space and do something else without it being disturbed by the time you return, THAT seems to be the expensive part!
There's always "loans" of equipment from colleges and workplaces that can be arranged by the well connected.
IMHO actually getting the work done (including overcoming the cost problems) is much easier than knowing what to do...
That's right Steve!
'Getting the work done' is what it's about, you can see what can be done & i am getting into the habit of providing 'tips for inventors' in glow purple to make them stand out, like in the 'home repair' thread:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2355.0 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2355.0)
Yes i'm shamelessly plugging one of my own threads, something that would get you banned on certain 'conspiracy sites' ::)
I don't care, if you have read it, skip it (that's why i put the title as well as the url) and if you haven't, why not??
;D
But yes, funding is still a problem. Thats why i tend to work on 'miniature' models first. If it is promising, i can simply enlarge the model at a later date...
It still bugs me that some professors get paid a half million to write a book about a theory, let alone actually DO anything with it >:(
For god's sake, for half a million we would be halfway to the Bob Lazar 'sport model' 8) :o :(
"For god's sake, for half a million we would be halfway to the Bob Lazar 'sport model',"
Yes... I think that is exactly WHY the funding isn't available to the likes of your and me.
And if I only needed half a million, and had a working model to show, I might just know a bloke who'd give me the money...
Quote from: Littleenki on July 22, 2012, 05:32:34 PM
Oh dear, Im not touching that oneLOL!!!!
Dave
Go on, Dave! I did once, and it's been an amazing journey... :c)
FB!
Fruitbat:
QuoteYes... I think that is exactly WHY the funding isn't available to the likes of your and me.
Probably, but were getting there anyway, the materials we need are getting cheaper by the day due to a huge demand (notably China, what the **** do THEY know?) :D
Besides, once you have a working 'proof of concept' model, they will come running.
I would go with the Sheikhs, they have bucketfuls of cash, and are genuinely interested in finding an alternative for all that oil they are sitting on, they know it will either run out, or get taken by other nations when TSHTF....OPEC may want them to tow the line, but the UAE arent stupid (even if half of them went to Eton :P )
QuoteAnd if I only needed half a million, and had a working model to show, I might just know a bloke who'd give me the money...
That's just for the working model, mate.
Want to go to Mars, it will cost 100 mil extra, i reckon.
Still, thats less than 2 Harriers, or 1/5 of a space shuttle LOL
QuoteQuote from: Littleenki on 22-07-2012, 09:32:34
Oh dear, Im not touching that oneLOL!!!!
Dave
Go on, Dave! I did once, and it's been an amazing journey... :c)
FB!
I'd rather NOT know what you guys are talking about!
:P
Frank Znidarsic's Theory for Podkletnov Effect:
Interesting video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ
(http://www.alienscientist.com/pictures/Boeing.gif)
And don't forget the gravity impulse generator:
(http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/pictures/podkletnov_impulse_generator.JPG)
http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/experiments.html
Cosmo
Bump & Gold ;D