I have saved the best for last, but i haven't had time to write it all up yet.
Sorry, it will be here soon.
Besides, i can't post much about the man or his work that you don't already know :-[
There will be 'updates' coming soon, from my own research in that area.
Feel free to talk tech... 8)
And no off-topic BS either :P
Sorry it's taking so long, there's not much i can post about T.T. that you can find out from Linda, so i will merely concentrate on his work, and the notebooks.
I'm going to write up a few of the experiments, & show you my own results, following these experiments through.
Now won't THAT be fun ;D
Despite recent events, i have informed Linda that i am continuing research into those notebooks, and any results will be placed both on her site, & here.
I will continue to work with her, because i promised to do so, and i keep my word...
I think that's only fair.
Many of you have freinds (and enemies) who are excluded from this forum.
The reason for that is simple: Only the techies & eggheads are going to be here, doing their thing, in peace & quiet.
With a lot of help from Zorgon, i will be dumping tons of info here, hopefully already broken down into the 'think' and 'do' workshops so you can all get to grips with some aspect of the research.
Hey, Luke, I read your post on the Resolute, well put my friend, you are a man with class!
I see the TT Brown tech as being an integral part of certain areas and researches, so it's good we stay up on it. Ive found that certain things like a gravitor and the ES speaker have applications that extend beyond just the novel.
Dielectrics have been perfected by the big guys in our gubmints labs, so even if we can find a niche within TTB's work, itll be worth it.
Remember, I am the best at molding and casting, I have kilns and many different molding compounds.
I can make antennas with the coils embedded, and different cores for various em primaries and secondaries.
And, Im willing:D
Cheers
Dave
Thanks Dave, you & Steve are being just fantastic, i was getting ready to shelve the whole project last week, but your enthusiasm & support has pulled me back onto the path :D
Yes, we're going to need to be able to cast dielectric cones from all kinds of materials. I'm stil working on metal oxides, particularly iron & lead.
The really amazing thing is, i had just started using wax cones (like the one below) mixed with iron oxide (good ol' rust) and oxides of lead, before i read the first notebook.
As you can imagine my flabber was well & truly gasted when i saw that Brown was using the exact same methods & materials all those years ago....
These by themselves have a fairly low K but i did get rather impressive results from the iron. The lead oxides didn't do much at all, but then i need very pure lead (II) oxide, (PbO) which has to come from a lab supplier.
And i need to mix this with glycerine (C3H8O3) to make a hard dielectric,
Glycerine has a fairly high K (>80) OK not the 1200 that Barium Titanate has but enough to prove the theory.
This will be the next step.....improving the K factor.
The cones were suspended from 2 very thin wires, & given discharges of 25-100Kv D.C.
The iron one moved about 3mm with each shock, no 'ion wind' was present.
As far as i can tell, the B-B effect happens at or near the breakdown point of the dielectric and this includes air, as in the case of Lifters.
I know some of you guys have seen this before, it's just to let the others know.
More to come....
This is just part of the story, we will need to apply these high voltages not as a 'spark' but as high frequncies resonating at the same fundamental f of the dielectric.
Tricky, that one....
By the way, the above examples are outdated, just to show you how i was following T.T.'s experiments and getting the same results as he did
Dave, you are now officially my 'materials expert' since i will need you to verify what i have said so far...you have everything you need to repeat this & the following experiments.... 8)
PWM did you ever did the experiment that Townsend Brown did where he found that Inertial mass differ from gravitational mass, (When charged (+) it increase Inertial mass while decrease gravitational mass, and the opposite happens when charged (-) )
This was in his 1st notebook, and wondered if you did this yet. Thanks dcooper
Ah is that the pendulum thing? Sorry i'm forgetting things sometimes...
Not in essence, no, but i knew from Laithwaite that there is a difference between what we call 'momentum' & 'inertia'.
Rotating mass is 'uncoupled' in some way, the inertia becomes far stronger than momentum, or gravity, for that matter.
I do have a scale, but it's an ancient one made of brass. Not very good for 100kv tests, i'm afraid.
So i went straight for the gravitors, & i have 2 types.
one is a single graviton suspended on wires. In this way i'm able to (roughly) measure the thrust developed.
The other platform is 2 gravitors on a wooden beam which has a liquid teflon-filled bearing, and is balanced to within 1/2 a gram....
At the moment, i'm having trouble with the purity of my home-made dielectrics, so i will have to buy some, like the barium nano-powders now available....but i'm going to make some more tests before i start throwing serious cash at this. ;D
While we are on the subject, LaViolette showed exactly how you can improve the performance using HF AC voltages instead of DC discharges, like you would get from a Van de Graff or Marx generator.
TTB also realized that the higher gradient could be reached by using a high frequency sawtooth waveform. After that, no further info is available (unless it's in the other notebooks) but certainly it's worth looking into.
So what we need to drive our low-K gravitors is an RF Tesla coil, that gives a very sharp sawtooth waveform, the leading edge being as sharp as possible. It may even be worth trying a 'staircase' waveform, where the voltage is progressively increased in sharp steps (i happen to have a circuit or 2 for this, because the 'step-charging' method of charging capacitors has interesting 'overunity' applications, as we will see later).
This is fun! :)
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 31, 2012, 06:48:12 PM
While we are on the subject, LaViolette showed exactly how you can improve the performance using HF AC voltages instead of DC discharges, like you would get from a Van de Graff or Marx generator.
TTB also realized that the higher gradient could be reached by using a high frequency sawtooth waveform. After that, no further info is available (unless it's in the other notebooks) but certainly it's worth looking into.
So what we need to drive our low-K gravitors is an RF Tesla coil, that gives a very sharp sawtooth waveform, the leading edge being as sharp as possible. It may even be worth trying a 'staircase' waveform, where the voltage is progressively increased in sharp steps (i happen to have a circuit or 2 for this, because the 'step-charging' method of charging capacitors has interesting 'overunity' applications, as we will see later).
This is fun! :)
Ah Luke,could it be the grail of our search for gravitor performance?...A/C instead of DC! My sentiments exactly!
I have dropped the HVDC PS in favor of a high frequency A/C voltage and a square waveform...I find that several of my solid state generator primary coil designs really turn on the inductance with a 2khz sawtooth or step waveform, instead of a 200 hz input waveform.
Just increasing the input frequency of certain inductance circuits...like a tesla coil...will really give one the ability to see a marked increase in thrust potential, but as youve pointd out before, Luke, it is very important to find that sweet spot and keep it within that tiny range.
Could it be possible that the shortcomings to much of TT Browns efforts has been the use of DC over AC?
And, is it possible to find that sweet spot, and eliminate the losses and heavy equipment demands of a DC power supply?
Inversion is our friend..eh?
Cawfee ramblings, excuse me if Im way off here!:D
Cheers!
Dave
So maybe more the intensity of the pulse than the flow...sounds like Tesla's work too. Didn't his flying platform use AC?
Transformer of pulsed voltage and currents
In order to transform the high voltage pulse into much higher oscillation of electric potential, Tesla invented special coils that were very responsive, such flat spiral coils (see picture) or conical coils, that showed capacitance between the coil windings. This extra capacitance balances the self-inductance of the primary coil, such that the the total impedance of the coil is reduced for very high frequencies. Therefore, Tesla's responsive coils do not damp the voltage pulse, such that it builds up a magnetic field very rapidly. A secondary coil transforms the primary field pulse to a much higher secondary voltage. This secondary coil is connected to a capacitive metal terminal at one end, and to ground at the other end.
(http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/pictures/Nikola-Tesla-Coil.jpg)
Modern proof for Tesla's extraordinary claims
(http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/pictures/podkletnov_impulse.jpg)
The most important modern experiment that proves most of Tesla's claims, is Podkletnov's discharge experiment with one superconductive electrode. The discharge pulse from Podkletnov's device generates a non-dispersive beam that cannot be shielded. The same 'gravitic' effect occurs on pendulums that are hit by the beam, regardless of the chemical composition of the pendulum. Podkletnov concludes that this beam is not a particle beam, and it is not a TEM wave; the energy flow of this radiation does not satisfy the dispersion relation E = p /c of TEM wave radiation. In an interview with Tim Ventura, Podkletnov described that a shorter impulse time causes a higher power flow. He also claimed that the speed of this beam is about 64 times higher than the speed of light. This fits perfectly with my theoretical prediction of longitudinal electrocalar waves with velocity possibly much higher than c, and an energy flow that also depends on a scalar field, thus volts per second variation should be optimized. Tesla called this gravity-like force a 'teleforce', and its science 'telegeodynamics'.
Nice site, mentions the Testatika too.
(http://members.tele2.nl/kovavla/pictures/testatika_small.JPG)
Methernitha
In the beautiful mountains of Switzerland lies Linden, a small, calm place surrounded by dozens of peaceful little villages.
The region is called Emmental, known for its Emmental cheese.
Linden itself is especially known for the Methernitha group that lives there, and for their Thestatika machine, built by Methernitha's founder, Paul Baumann.
This machine attracts many people from all over the world, for it produces electricity from what is called "free energy." Many think this Thestatika machine could be the answer to our world energy needs, but no-one outside of the Methernitha group knows how it works. And although the Methernitha people have demonstrated their machine to many scientists, the mystery of its operation remains a secret.
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/feb2/methnith.htm
More Tesla:
Tesla performed an experiment in which he applied high-voltage high-frequency alternating current to a pair of parallel metal plates. He found that the 'space' between the plates became what he described as "solid-state" exhibiting the attributes of mass, inertia and momentum. That is, the area transformed into a state against which a mechanical push could be exerted. This implied that, using this technique, it should be possible to produce a spaceship drive anywhere in space, if the mechanism for thrusting against the 'solid-state' space could be determined. Further experiments convinced Tesla that powerful electromagnetic waves could be used to push against (and pull against) what appears to be 'empty space'. The drive principle is based on the Hall-effect used in semiconductor magnetic sensors, and is called the magnetohydrodynamic ("MHD") effect.
(http://www.cars-and-trees.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/image008.jpg)
Some cool posts there 8) way to go.
IMO Tesla did do podkletnov-type experiments & found the same effect, which may even be described as pushing against the aether, but i prefer the term 'electrogravitics' :)
Testatika; there are 1 or 2 forums where they are attempting to build this amazing machine (i even have a plan, but it's very fuzzy >:() and it's a complex machine...
Dave;
QuoteCould it be possible that the shortcomings to much of TT Browns efforts has been the use of DC over AC?
And, is it possible to find that sweet spot, and eliminate the losses and heavy equipment demands of a DC power supply?
He WAS a 'radio man' in the Navy & gave lessons at the radar school, i would think he knew all about the AC applications, AND he had access to all the (then) latest microwave tech.....isn't this where 'project winterhaven' became 'project zenith'???
By the way, you know they are selling MHD driven yachts for some years now?
This one needed it's own post.
Yes Dave, the ideal situation is where the AG device/ship/bedstead is actually also providing the power, or at least most of it.
Rather like Searl's concepts...
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on July 31, 2012, 08:20:16 PM
This one needed it's own post.
Yes Dave, the ideal situation is where the AG device/ship/bedstead is actually also providing the power, or at least most of it.
Rather like Searl's concepts...
So a sort of highly efficient energy storage capacity is of major importance to such, eh?
Ill take a MHD ship! where do I sign up?
Cheers!
I happen to have some nanofoil 1 Farad capacitors lying around.... ::)
Could be useful in a Bedini/Searl/Brown kind of way.
I will have to get the 'practical overunity machines' threads up soon..........
An MHD engine seems quite a simple build, and a prototype would be inexpensive to run with ordinary solar panels. I would picture a flywheel device though, which through the gentle acceleration of a MHD engine, could be spun up quite nicely and kept spinning with little torque.
A simple alternator attached to said flywheel, and a battery system could provide enough electricity to power itself at night, once spinning.
Ok, off to work now, with a head full of stuff!
Cheers!
Dave
Somebody built a boat (way back when Victoria was still around i think ;))
It had just 2 vertical tubes, instead of sails, it worked better than sails , it worked on the thame principles as aerodynamic surfaces, end the skin effect. Also, the 2 tubes would act like gyro's stabilising the ship?
Anyway, a decent sized flywheel is always a good idea, it can hold a LOT of energy & act as a stabiliser.
Matrix's comments about high-speed flywheels is extremely relevant, something to keep in mind, but that's for the 'general discussion' on gravity, or at least a 'mechanics' thread... ::)
This is purely EHD ;D