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Title: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 14, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
This is a general plea for help.  Does anyone here know of a project that was supposed to happen in the posted time frame, last two to three months, but was cancelled?  Rather vague, I know, but I was three or four at the time we were there with my dad, and lizards and seashells took a higher prority with me.  My older brother either doesn't know or won't talk.  We are the senior generation of our extended family, so I have nobody to ask.  If I jog any memories or someone knows something, please share.  I'm trying to teach my grankids about where they came from.

Respectfully,

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: sky otter on July 15, 2012, 01:27:44 AM


hi shasta

best i could do was find this,,,hope it helps

http://www.spaceline.org/capehistory/3a.html

THE HISTORY OF CAPE CANAVERAL CHAPTER 3
NASA ARRIVES (1959-PRESENT)
Written and Edited by Cliff Lethbridge

Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: undo11 on July 15, 2012, 01:30:22 AM
i studied the space program years ago, but heck if i remember all the stuff that transpired from one year to the next. i just remember some of the key points, like the names of their space programs (et.al, gemini, mercury, apollo, etc) and little oddities such as alan sheppard golfing on the moon and putting apollo 13 back together with duct tape.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 15, 2012, 10:09:59 AM
Shasta, I was out in Florida around that time - for 3 months! - with My dad (& mom, and infant sister).  Sadly, all I can recollect is going to see a liftoff of some rocket at the cape and sitting on My dad's shoulders (and the bedbugs in the bed I was given to sleep in initially - LOL).

Really wish I had any info that would help.


EDIT to add:  Oh, and the chameleons.  I too was lizard-fascinated.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: zorgon on July 15, 2012, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: Shasta56 on July 14, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
This is a general plea for help.  Does anyone here know of a project that was supposed to happen in the posted time frame, last two to three months, but was cancelled?  Rather vague,

That is a tough one. Those years there were hundreds of projects going on, some made it some failed some where shelved..

Need something  was it rocket related, ground testing, airplanes?  NASA did a lot of stuff other than space in those days like the Mini one man space shuttles

The one below was 1969 in Palmdale but the point is there are a lot of projects

(http://area51specialprojects.com/images/ecn2359.jpg)

(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/53509main_MM_image_feature_99_jw4.jpg)

Anybody Need a Lift?

Pilot Bill Dana looks up as the B-52 "mothership" cruises over NASA's HL-10 "lifting body" on Muroc Dry Lake, California, in 1969. Lifting bodies were wingless vehicles that flew because of the lift generated by the aircraft's body. The research proved that future spacecraft could land like an airplane, helping to pave the way for the development of the Space Shuttle.Photo Credit: NASA/Dryden Flight Research Center
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: zorgon on July 15, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Project Mercury fits your time frame

May 5, 1961 to May 15-16, 1963

(http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/history/mercury/mercurybig.jpg)
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: zorgon on July 15, 2012, 10:42:46 AM
Oh wait  I think I know what your looking for

Project Dyna-Soar LOL  My head still fluffed form all the noise

That was part of the Secret Space Program with the MOL spy station. Most of that is covered in my Naval Space Command thread but PBS NOVA Did a special on it. The Russians had us beat on that two, only their ALMAZ flew until 1972

NOVA ASTROSPIES

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/astrospies.html
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 23, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
I was able to nail down at least one date.  We were there when the mice went up on October13, 1960.  I think my problem is not knowing the right questions to ask.  I remember that rockets of some sort were being launched quite frequently.  I don't know if I want to save up my money for hypnotic regression, or for a road trip to FL.  I'm leaning more to the road trip.

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Gigas on July 23, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
Nothing to do with the inquiry.

But....

Back in the dark age of the late 50s my dad bought me a christmas toy called cape canaveral toy set.

It was a large playset with a paper layout of the grounds and lots a rockets and buildings to setup. It included a square flimsy floppy 45 record I could play on our phonograph player with sounds from cape canaveral launches.

I bet that would be worth millions of collector dollars if I had kept it.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 23, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
I would love to be regressed to gain more detail of what I experienced back during that time!  I wonder if My dad knew Your dad, Shasta.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: spacemaverick on July 23, 2012, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Shasta56 on July 23, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
I was able to nail down at least one date.  We were there when the mice went up on October13, 1960.  I think my problem is not knowing the right questions to ask.  I remember that rockets of some sort were being launched quite frequently.  I don't know if I want to save up my money for hypnotic regression, or for a road trip to FL.  I'm leaning more to the road trip.

Shasta

Shasta, if you could make a trip here to Canaveral I think you might enjoy the history up close and personal.  I moved to Brevard County in 1964 when I was 12, left when I was 19 and have returned.  You can research on-line but going to the space center itself might be a good idea for the up close and personal part of history for you and family.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: spacemaverick on July 23, 2012, 09:30:12 PM
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=65

This is NASA's media archive.  This same  site gives you a hisotry of the Space Coast as we call it down here.  I will see if I can find anything else for you since I live here.  Someone else on this forum lives near Patrick AFB.  Zorgon could tell tell you who.  I will look for projects and see what I can dig up.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: spacemaverick on July 23, 2012, 09:43:08 PM
Here is a link right on livingmoon.com from Jack Arneson dealing with the Dyna_Soar Program which was canceled in 1963.  Then there were the Mercury sub-orbital flight until John Glenn circles the earth in actual orbit.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/SA_Albert_Crews.html

Zorgon's information is always good.


Here is a list of astronauts also that came off a link on livingmoon.com

http://www.spacefacts.de/english/bio_ast.htm

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/DYNASOAR.html

Above link will take you to the Dyna-Soar Program.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 24, 2012, 12:05:10 AM
Just so everyone understands.  The 1950's were the Dark Ages until mid-December 1956.  Then I was born and the light reflecting off my bald head illuminated the world.

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 24, 2012, 12:17:18 AM
Ok, back to being serious.  Thank you, all of you.  My instincts tell me that there was some involvement with the Mercury project.  I say that, because I remember watching the launch on television not terribly long after we got home.  My mom was really excited because my dad had been some small part of making that happen.  I also know that whatever we were down there for, was supposed to last about three months, but was either cancelled or cut short, so we were only there for about two weeks.  I alsoremember playing in the ocean with a couple of other girls who were close to my age, and whose father was also down there on a work assignment.

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 24, 2012, 06:21:15 AM
Shasta, We may have played together!  I remember going to the beach and the grownups all getting together and sending Us kids off the play...  There were a couple of girls around My age.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 24, 2012, 01:56:18 PM
I had the same thought.  Even if it didn't happen, and I have no proof either way, it's fun to think about all these years later.  From the pictures I've seen, the girls I played with were both blond.  I'm a redhead.  My older brother was there too.  He would have been a skinny ten year old redhead.  I wish I could remember some names.  I can almost hear them in my mind, like a faint echo.

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 24, 2012, 02:04:20 PM
I think I remember a redhead...  I was very blonde as a child...  Does "Amy" ring a bell?
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 24, 2012, 06:43:37 PM
I'm looking for old pictures from that time.  I'd love to say Amy rings a bell, but having an Aunt Amy in CA, could be the bellringer.  I do have a particular picture that I remember of three girls on the beach together.  Me and the two blonde girls.  I know we really hit it off and got along well.  I also know my family was at the Bal-Ray Motel right on the beach.  Complete with a lizard on the coffee pot in the office one morning.  If I can't find the pictures I'm looking for I' ll try to scan in a couple that I have, and post them.  Does the name Bill Robinson ring any bells with you?

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 24, 2012, 06:48:33 PM
Vaguely...  So vaguely...  I wish I could say, "Oh!  Yes!"  But...  It sounds like maybe I have heard that before - but I am not certain...

Looking forward to pics and hope You find that one.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 24, 2012, 08:14:37 PM
I can't find the picture I want.  I can see it in my mind's eye.  I'm with two blonde girls in swim suits, one is about my age, the othe is a little older.  The older one has shoulder length blonde hair, more than wavy, but not quite curly. 

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 24, 2012, 08:46:24 PM
May I ask how old You are, Shasta?  (I'm 55...)

BTW...  Your story of it ending early rang big bells, and I remember being disappointed that We were not staying as long as We were going to.  And yes...  It was supposed to be for three months, I remember that.  But when You mentioned the cutting short, I had that disappointment image come up.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 25, 2012, 03:25:40 AM
I'm also in the double nickel club.  I'd say it's quite likely that we're getting reacquainted at this point.  I keep getting the name Frank, but I don't know if it means anything.

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 25, 2012, 04:02:56 AM
Well...  My dad's name was John - yeah, I know.  Very unusual.  LOL!  But My mom's name really was.  Her name was Buddie (the "ie" made it feminine).  And, yes, that was Her given name.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 25, 2012, 04:50:20 AM
I"ve lost count of how many "Johns" I have in my family.  My parents were Bill and Connie.  My brother is Gary.  It all seems so familiar.  Right down to saying goodbye to my friends, because the project had been cut short and we were leaving.

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 25, 2012, 11:44:11 AM
Yeah.  I figured "John" would not be a clue.  [grin]

Well, someday We will be regressed or something and know for sure.  I hope it's not death that is the "or something!"  LOL
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 25, 2012, 03:45:13 PM
At the beach in 1960.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 25, 2012, 03:51:08 PM
One more picture.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 25, 2012, 04:16:48 PM
Too bad You don't have the pic with the other girls.  I could tell if I was one or not.  But man.  You were a VERY cute kid!  Bet You're still cute.  [smile]
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on July 25, 2012, 07:23:06 PM
My hubby says I'm still cute.  I have another place or two to look for pictures.  I might break down and see if my brother has any pictures from that time.  I need to go to the library and see what's available there as far as the mercury missions.  It's like my budget.  So close, yet so far.

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on July 25, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
Hope the pics are forthcoming! 

As long as Hubby thinks You're cute, that's all that really matters!
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on November 04, 2012, 06:26:05 PM
I finally found one of the pics!  Now I have to figure out how to post it.  It's dated July 1962.  Does that ring any bells Amy?

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on November 07, 2012, 07:24:00 AM
Maybe...  I was pretty sure what I remember was 1960.  Can't say for sure.
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Shasta56 on November 12, 2012, 07:25:04 PM
It's possible that the pic was taken in 1961 but not developed until 1962.  The blond girl in the pic with me is wearing a one piece skirted swimsuit.  Shw has short hair.  Pretty generic description for the time, but that's all I have.

Shasta
Title: Re: Cape Canaveral: 1960-1962
Post by: Amaterasu on November 13, 2012, 05:30:47 PM
It could have been as late as '61...  It all sounds so familiar.  I know We were in Florida, I know a job My dad was working on there was cut short, I know We spent time on the beach...  I know I met a girl there I played with...

Very close.