Going to add this to my Free Energy thread but just had to put it here for input :D
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Could this possibly be one of the people who are no longer with us in this forum?
Or, could this be someone in the act of making application to join this forum? With his obvious prototype research, he should make a fine candidate for the "Free Energy Forum"!!
zorgon, is this fellow possibly someone you have invited to come to this forum to "moderate"?
And lastly zorgon, is this a relative of yours, or at least someone who holds you in the highest esteem?? I ask that because.......if you magnify this pic even just a little, it is easy to see that the picture in the badge on his chest, shows a very close resemblance to what you would look like with no helmet or headdress - - dontcha think??
That wouldn't be your yellow scarf he is wearing would it??
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Ha! Probably not free, but likely low cost! ;D
What we need is a more expensive clean energy.
Anyone who introduces a cheap or free energy will be taken out by TPTB. They will allow a change as long as the money flows. As far as free goes, I do not think there is such a thing, as it is, the resources we use now are all free. Oil is in the ground, free. Wood is in the trees, free, Water and wind, free, sunlight, free.
Converting any of that to usable energy the way we like it. MONEY, not free. Energy saving devices are OK, they seldom get stopped unless it rocks a big boat like cars or planes. Little things are ok. The problem is just Money, they have it, we don't. When all the oil and gas runs out, they will let the others surface as long as they cost more than the oil did. Currently GOD runs the world. Gold Oil and Drugs. The little people are just in the way. I am a little person, not a PTB.
Does any one really think that even if there was a new gadget designed that could sit on my desk and power my office for 10 cents a month, that they are just going to give these away for free? Even if that gadget cost 10 dollars to build, it will cost me 10,000$ to buy and be on license. Don't see that? Look at the cost of making and selling drugs. One, 3 cent pill turns into 10 dollars by magic.
I also think that if we could take away all of the money in the world, people would just stop working. Hey, I don't like to work now and I get paid. Why would I work for nothing. No gains? Why push yourself? It is a nice idea all things equal and free but how will that ever get started while we are in the middle of a giant game of monopoly and we are losing.
I never thought I would write this next statement in my life time but I can now go outside and buy a glass bottle of beer cheaper or same cost as a plastic bottle of water for the same amount. See how things go. Water is free, yet I have to pay for every drop I drink. Someday soon I will be flushing my toilet with beer and maybe push the dog over if I am thirsty. Oh No!! Gross....
Deuem
Someday soon I will be flushing my toilet with beer
and maybe push the dog over if I am thirsty.
Oh No!! Gross....
Deuem
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Quote from: deuem on July 18, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
Anyone who introduces a cheap or free energy will be taken out by TPTB. They will allow a change as long as the money flows. As far as free goes, I do not think there is such a thing, as it is, the resources we use now are all free. Oil is in the ground, free. Wood is in the trees, free, Water and wind, free, sunlight, free.
Well 'free' is relative.. you first have to build the device. Wood is free heat, good hardwood has little polution. Here near Price Utah you can pick up free coal on the ground I have barrels full of it. Toss just a few pieces into your wood stove doubles the heat (not to much or you melt the stove)
But you have to pay for the wood stove, you have to pay to safely install a chimney for it and a small fee for a permit to make sure it meets fire code (not much use if you burn down your house) You also have to pay with work. That wood isn't going to cut itself or pile itself and the coal I need a tank of gas to get there
But after the INITIAL cost, from then on its free energy, and so far the right to heat your home is still free, though some states have burn restrictions due to inversion layers
You want FREE AC? Cost you about $5.000.oo to install pipe with coolant and valences in your rooms, install a solar pump, and a water heat dump... but after that its FREE energy to cool your house (same method as your refrigerator) All you need is that solar powered pump to move the fluid
Solar cells... a LOT of house in Vegas have them on the roof. Nevada Power even has incentive programs and money for you to add them and by law has to buy any access power you generate (albeit at wholesale price) Be nice to get a check FROM the power company right? You can even make your own cells for a few hundred.
Hot water... a simple grid of black PVC pipe on a hot roof with a solar pump... all the hot water you need ( store it for evening, your sleeping at night anyway. Black pipe is cheap, but very effective
But people are lazy... they don't want to chop wood, or take an hour to pick up a years supply of Coal... or run some pipe on the roof...
Lights Oil can be put into oil lamps Nice ambient lighting Kerosene is cheap, but vegetable oil burns bright white and smokeless and odorless
They just want everything handed to the free :D
QuoteThe problem is just Money, they have it, we don't. When all the oil and gas runs out, they will let the others surface as long as they cost more than the oil did. Currently GOD runs the world. Gold Oil and Drugs. The little people are just in the way. I am a little person, not a PTB.
It is because most "little people" THINK like "little people". ell you are in China so its a little harder than here...
But let me give you some examples
Alumium cans .55 a pound
Scrap Iron 18,00 per 100 lbs
Brass 1.67 a pound
Copper 2.95 a pound
I have bins outside, I keep all bits of these metals Just last week I took a small lot in to the scrap yard and got $185.00 tax free cash
In California plastic bottles have a .o5 return... Mexicans here in Nevada collect them and drive them to Ca to sell Not a lot of big bucks but when you have nothing, $20.00 is a good thing
We do yard sales here... get stuff from work that gets tossed after a convention Brands new or samples, cost too much to ship back so its tossed. I average $500-600 on a good weekend
The point is there are always ways to make a few extra dollars...
Even in China... I know because I have bought many rock specimens from China :D All that takes is a shovel and knowing where to dig
QuoteSee how things go. Water is free, yet I have to pay for every drop I drink.
No you don't you can go to a river an fill up bottles for free. what you pay for is the convenience of cute little bottles and someone to clean that water for you
Quote from: rdunk on July 17, 2012, 11:38:14 PM
Could this possibly be one of the people who are no longer with us in this forum?
No when we screen new applicants we run them through several checks. You would be amazed at what pops up when you google someone's email.
I have never once found an open water source I could drink out of. All rivers and streams are used for human sewage removal. ( no trout fishing for Deuem ) Let it flow out to the sea. You would think it would stink but it doesn't. I guess the diet is so different, the smells are too. All water is collected from tiny streams before hitting a river or from wells.
Myself I buy my drinking water in 5 gallon plastic recycled bottles and they are then mounted on a water cooler. Some of the rich folk go out and buy very expensive filter systems that clean the river water to drink. Seeing where I live, I have access to some of the best deep well water there is so I will stick to that. The others can drink or boil the river water.
My general use water is from that source also and goe through a general cleaning before I get it but I don't care to drink it when I have a better choice. I pay about 2.25USD for the 5 gallon water bottle delivered up to the concrete bunker we live in. I miss wood!
And because bunker living in the air has no roof, where do I put all the black pipes. Think of it this way. More than 90% of the people here live in concrete high rise homes. They love to live close to each other and save the land for crops. They got a lot of mouths to feed. They are all moving up and not out. As in spread out...I have never seen a yard big enough to need mowing the grass. All the large grass areas are common.
I think I mentioned in another thread that almost every single bit of waste material is recycled here and way past anything done in the states. Either you get paid for it, like cans you wrote or they scavenge anything left over. I am not going to try and collect things like old paper because I don't have that much, but if you take that to city level there are people that do.
If you go outside at night, you will see what looks like a treasure hunt. It goes on all night, every night. A pile 3 feet high will be inches by morning. Sometimes even the garbage cans are taken. They have to bolt them down now. Also all of the sewer lids are new and have flip tops. In one city they were losing 2,000 a night to recycle people.
Deuem
Quote from: zorgon on July 18, 2012, 10:58:19 AM
It is because most "little people" THINK like "little people"
Great remark,
Amicus: ©lowN$ of $-clans & others like that have liked very much to steer people astray up to sheeple state. :)
Compared to TPTB, anyone under a billion dallars are the little people. That number might even be much higher but I will never find out. TPTB are the ones that are capable of anything when ever they want to. I would think that everyone under them is a little person in their eyes. We recycle garbage, they recycle countries. That kind of money....
Deuem
well we are some of the little people..hopefully hiding in plain site ..
we recycle as much as possible..and i have two dogs and a compost pile so rarly have much garbage....our community has pick up days once a year for big stuff and it's a lot of fun watching others go thur your stuff..lol..and yeah to drive around and see what;s being tossed...
see free entertainment..lol
and hubby luvs to scrap
funny that the thiefs have made the scrap yards do photo id on file of anyone scrapping now
so i'm sure the irs will be around soon...sigh
you can still forage in th woods/forrests if you know what to look for
mushrooms thur the year and berries in the summer and nuts in the fall
i have tried to take veggie plants to the woods..some worked some didn't
we built below grade..natural air condition in the summer
and very little needed to heat thur the winter
also safe during storms
no nothing is really free.. but if you pay attention and do a little work at it
lots for very little
;D
Quote from: deuem on July 18, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
As far as free goes, I do not think there is such a thing, as it is, the resources we use now are all free. Oil is in the ground, free. Wood is in the trees, free, Water and wind, free, sunlight, free.
Perhaps the better term would be UNLIMITED free energy. Yes, oil and wood is free. But they are limited and so controllable. Water and wind are limited by location (and flow), and so are controllable. Even solar is limited by clouds, time of day, and such, but is far less controllable than the others. That is why We saw great resistance to solar energy when it first appeared as an option.
True "free energy" is not limited by any of these constraints, and though there is a sidereal and planetary fluctuation, the energy flows at all times. It is unlimited.
I think if the word free was changed to something that does not scare the pants off the PTB, it would make it different to them. No meter, they freak out. Amaterasu, your a smart one, what else could this be called besides free. Something that would match what reality would give us. What would the Amaterasu Company be called.
Deuem
Infinitely available energy... IAE!
Just a thought...
Heh: Google on IAE:
IAE - International Association of Egyptologists
Integrated Acquisition Environment (IAE)
Institute for Assessment and Evaluation (IAE)
Institut d'Administration des Entreprises de Poitiers (IAE)
Institute for Arts Entrepreneurship
There's more...but that's enough. [grin]
INDUCTION!!!!! ok it's stealing but it is free ;)
Tap into the grid for free.
Quote from: deuem on July 18, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
I would think that everyone under them is a little person in their eyes
that's very reason why they no've a future, only death :)
Quote from: SarK0Y on July 18, 2012, 11:40:16 PM
that's very reason why they no've a future, only death :)
So what is your solution? Should we revolt and take the fort back? Most people do not want to die for a few more dollars.
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on July 19, 2012, 07:00:45 AM
So what is your solution? Should we revolt and take the fort back? Most people do not want to die for a few more dollars.
Deuem
i'm truly against las revoluciones in any country: so many ecological & technological troubles must be solved, but i know those morons, so-called elites, their god complex gone wild; thx to'em new dark ages are coming.
I am for spreading information on how to solve the issues:
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/the-end-of-entropy-a-look-at-our-entropic-world-and-the-evidence
That's also here, but the links at the end are in the thread and not in the original post. I like having all info consolidated.
QuoteThe reasons for these occurrences – that the media never ask if we can draw on the Dark Energy, that electrogravitics became highly classified – become clear when we look at the fact that those presently in power would have to give up their power over others (having already power over themselves). From the perspective of those few, they would "lose."
well,
Amy, if they've hidden a stuff of that kind, why they no've run so uZZy things 4 own business???????? look at the 20th century: all hi-tech was applied to war machines in no time, but hella useful EG has been shelved.
Sar, I suspect They HAVE used the electrogravitics for Their own gain, but the reason They make war machines is because war is profitable. Most wars have been incited by the war profiteers, using false flags, and then They suppy both sides.
I keep wondering where HAARP gets it power from and how much is paid to whom every month for that power.
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 19, 2012, 11:43:42 PM
Sar, I suspect They HAVE used the electrogravitics for Their own gain, but the reason They make war machines is because war is profitable. Most wars have been incited by the war profiteers, using false flags, and then They suppy both sides.
I keep wondering where HAARP gets it power from and how much is paid to whom every month for that power.
HAARP uses the massive natural gas reserve's that are stored where it is. and that is the reason it IS
WHERE IT IS.The natural gas that would of cost to much to pipe from where it for domestic use is used to power generators to power haarp with it.well that's what i read when they 1st proposed using the massive reserves of gas.
(stealthy awaits aRmaP to correct him ::) )
Are You certain They are actually using this gas...? Maybe They are using free energy and have the gas as a decoy. It's possible.
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 19, 2012, 11:43:42 PM
Sar, I suspect They HAVE used the electrogravitics for Their own gain, but the reason They make war machines is because war is profitable. Most wars have been incited by the war profiteers, using false flags, and then They suppy both sides.
I keep wondering where HAARP gets it power from and how much is paid to whom every month for that power.
Amy, one or two ordinary nuke plants are hella enough to spin such a horsey like the haarp + it doesn't run 24/7. in short, if these guys have had so sweetie toys, entire Solar System would be militarized under flag of Fourth Reich. in fact, this civilization has had severe shortage of basic techs &'s faced dreadful ecological curse. it's damned lol to see all-that urban myths about super-duper spaceships, lasers, free/green energy etc. & so on.
Sar, My father worked with electrogravitics and before it went black, He would tell Me about His successful experiments in gravity control and "overunity." He would describe what the world would look like because of His work: cars would fly, cities would float, and We would have all the energy We could use. That was over 50 years ago. After it went into black projects, He never talked about His work again.
So. I KNOW They have this tech.