QuoteLimerick among four nuclear power reactors shut down Wednesday Leigh Valley Morning Call, 18 July Several nuclear plants on the U.S. East Coast, including Exelon's Limerick nuclear plant, were shut down early Wednesday and New York's Consolidated Edison power company reduced the voltage in parts of Manhattan as the obsessive heat wave stressed the region's power system....
http://nuclear-news.net/2012/07/19/usas-heatwave-contributes-to-nuclear-power-plant-shutdowns/
i just've to add: spreading droughts are even more dangerous 4 nuke plants than tsunamis. seems official monkeys been too humble to mention this.
Yeah... They don't do so well without coolant, eh?
Interesting story Sarkoy, and it seems that we are seeing a reaction to the heat all along the east coast..especially with peoples attitudes or personalities.
Ive noticed a number of people here in Florida have become quite erratic in their actions and such, and more heat will make it worse.
Dec 21st? Who knows, but Im putting my money on the Olympics as the flash point for the crumbling of society and our fear mongerers efforts to keep us in the pen, like sheep running in a circle.
It all begins with new kee ler, though, and what better way to make us behave than to irradiate whole regions of us with their old decrepit nuke plants, while the PTB sit upon their thrones in their golden palaces atop the hill, waiting for us to die from rad poisoning and kill each other.
And the foundation of the Olympic site...new kee ler waste!
I feel like a non GMO corn plant in a wave of Roundup spray!
"Little non GMO corn plant..you shall die while the others live hahahaha!"
Cheers, Sarkoy!
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 20, 2012, 02:37:54 PM
Yeah... They don't do so well without coolant, eh?
it's mildly said,
Amy. + power grid suffers from high temps. actually, each nuke plant must've an artificial lake to supply coolant.
Quote from: Littleenki on July 20, 2012, 02:53:01 PM
Dec 21st? Who knows, but Im putting my money on the Olympics as the flash point for the crumbling of society and our fear mongerers efforts to keep us in the pen, like sheep running in a circle.
A bit off topic, but have You seen the opening ceremony plans...?
http://12160.info/group/london-zion-olympics-2012/forum/topic/show?id=2649739:Topic:921569
EDIT to add: Speaking of sheep...
Quote from: Littleenki on July 20, 2012, 02:53:01 PM
Ive noticed a number of people here in Florida have become quite erratic in their actions and such, and more heat will make it worse.
Littleenki, peaks of Solar Activity always been the very root to shift human's mental state.
QuoteIt all begins with new kee ler, though, and what better way to make us behave than to irradiate whole regions of us with their old decrepit nuke plants, while the PTB sit upon their thrones in their golden palaces atop the hill, waiting for us to die from rad poisoning and kill each other.
ye overestimate that bunch of morons (ptb), they really no've the least idea how to keep their god-like @$$€$ safe. at now, we need significant leap with SDP (system of data processing), otherwise most of crucial R&D's are too heavy 4 completion. i've seen only BCI (brain-computer interface) as basic instrument to develop more advanced SDP.
Quoteye overestimate that bunch of morons (ptb), they really no've the least idea how to keep their god-like @$$€$ safe. at now, we need significant leap with SDP (system of data processing), otherwise most of crucial R&D's are too heavy 4 completion. i've seen only BCI (brain-computer interface) as basic instrument to develop more advanced SDP.
Indeed, Sarkoy, I probably do...:( Hopefully someone comes to straighten out their god like arses!LOL!
And as for SDP? Im a big proponent of organic computing, using living tissue to interface with typical system processing to form a hybrid of sorts.
Not sure how it would be done, but I have a hunch for some reason it will be the new way.
I remember the tissue experiments in Quantum Physics and have to think that Quantum computer will employ some sort of living tissue...flesh, tree, bird..what have you, but definitely some livng stuff in there!
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on July 20, 2012, 03:51:07 PM
And as for SDP? Im a big proponent of organic computing, using living tissue to interface with typical system processing to form a hybrid of sorts.
Not sure how it would be done, but I have a hunch for some reason it will be the new way.
I remember the tissue experiments in Quantum Physics and have to think that Quantum computer will employ some sort of living tissue...flesh, tree, bird..what have you, but definitely some livng stuff in there!
Le
QC is useless fairy tale: in the past, some dudes did gonna mechanical perpetuum mobile, now the same curse has affected SDP :) the speed of computation is directly related with power consumption, so horsey of exponential speed has the comparable appetite.
human brain is really great at computing power: modern supercomputers relatively been &'ll be mere Nothin'.
seems we're already very closely to new Fukushima http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-23/edf-halts-two-french-nuclear-reactors-current-outages-table-.html
More reactors been halted in France. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-06/edf-s-available-nuclear-capacity-at-65-french-halts-table-.html)
Quote from: SarK0Y on August 06, 2012, 08:14:12 PM
More reactors been halted in France. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-06/edf-s-available-nuclear-capacity-at-65-french-halts-table-.html)
First Germany now France Cool :D
It is interesting to note that it was a French Company involved in the Fukushima deal :D
Quote from: SarK0Y on July 20, 2012, 01:51:45 PM
i just've to add: spreading droughts are even more dangerous 4 nuke plants than tsunamis. seems official monkeys been too humble to mention this.
Quite true... lack of cooling water was what caused all the trouble at Fukushim... if they have no water supply to cool those reactors....
(http://www.ngoilgas.com/media/media-news/news-thumb/100602/nuclear_bomb_oil_spill.jpg)
Only worse as it keeps going :D
Quote from: zorgon on August 06, 2012, 08:35:23 PM
Quite true... lack of cooling water was what caused all the trouble at Fukushim... if they have no water supply to cool those reactors....
(http://www.ngoilgas.com/media/media-news/news-thumb/100602/nuclear_bomb_oil_spill.jpg)
Only worse as it keeps going :D
Explosion -- No, but Olympic Flames can be + keep in mind, spent rods been stored out the.
This discussion has me wondering if we will become "The Borg." I also wonder what's really in Aurora reservoir, given its proximity to the old Lowry bombing range and the Lowry superfund site. And why were so many unmarked trucks headed out there last week?
Shasta
http://www.france24.com/en/20120809-belgium-mulls-closing-two-nuclear-reactors-safety-concerns-energy-electricity
QuoteBelgium's nuclear watchdog is considering permanently closing two of the country's seven electricity-producing sites after routine checks found possible cracks in a reactor
What da Hell
"possible" does mean? :o
QuoteThe agency's director general Willy de Roovere said the vessel of the second reactor, situated in the country's south near Liege, was also produced by Dutch firm Rotterdam Drydocks and could also be closed "in the worst case".
The company, which is no longer in existence, also manufactured 21 vessels for nuclear units worldwide, he said.
i Hope blueprints do exist.
I was just about to say that indeed Belgium is currently thinking of shutting down 2 reactors, the given explanation is they would both show cracks in the "cooling system"
Whats up with all these nuclear installations going haywire or are they shutting down out of fear because they know something is about to happen ?
Cyanhide
What's up is that all these reactors are getting old. When buildings and equipment gets old entropy sets in and cracks and deterioration sets in.
When radiation is involved. entropy is increased
Whoever came up with the idea of using a stationary nuclear bomb to drive a steam turbine, needs to be tied up, and put in the very center of one of them, right before it explodes.
Quote from: Cyanhide on August 09, 2012, 09:52:48 PM
I was just about to say that indeed Belgium is currently thinking of shutting down 2 reactors, the given explanation is they would both show cracks in the "cooling system"
Whats up with all these nuclear installations going haywire or are they shutting down out of fear because they know something is about to happen ?
Cyanhide
waaaaaaaaahhhhh..... in short, worst case makes impossible to cool those damned pets.
Aha, okay seems like most logical they are getting outdated. I still believe mankind should have invested more in Nuclear Energy. I still think is just amazing the power,
but they should have gone further in finding ways to make it safer and more productive.
I always wondered why not make a nuclear reactor in a perfect cooled sphere. And use the sphere as a medium to pass the energy.
Cyanhide
Quote from: Cyanhide on August 10, 2012, 06:49:52 PM
Aha, okay seems like most logical they are getting outdated. I still believe mankind should have invested more in Nuclear Energy. I still think is just amazing the power,
but they should have gone further in finding ways to make it safer and more productive.
I always wondered why not make a nuclear reactor in a perfect cooled sphere. And use the sphere as a medium to pass the energy.
Cyanhide
Or we could end the coverup of aetheric and the various other forms of power generation which already exist, and use those, rather than continuing to try and use a technological dead end, which has the potential to render the planet completely uninhabitable.
Nuclear power generation is a disastrously stupid idea. With isolated exceptions, perhaps, such as the use of radiology in medicine, any research or use of technologies which either require radioactive materials, or rely on nuclear combustion, should be completely abandoned. It isn't just that it's unsafe; the issue is also that it is completely unnecessary.
Gold for that, Petrus, that's the whole point 8)
Dungeness in Kent (one of the most beutiful parts of england) is probably the oldest in the world, they should have closed it down 15 years ago, but the 'decomissioning' was deemed too expensive.
"hell, lets just run it till it explodes, we'll be rich by then, and in the Bahamas"
That's the way they think....
http://www.france24.com/en/20120810-cracked-belgian-nuclear-reactor-impossible-repair-closed-antwerp-radiation
Quote from: Cyanhide on August 10, 2012, 06:49:52 PM
Aha, okay seems like most logical they are getting outdated. I still believe mankind should have invested more in Nuclear Energy. I still think is just amazing the power,
The problem is we are NOT using nuclear POWER we are merely taking radioactive material and boiling water with it... and contaminating everything it touches.
A nuclear recctor is a glorified STEAM ENGINE nothing more.
Until we get smart enough to use that energy directly, as in a solar collector, they should stop wasting the stuff.
We can burn our trash with a scrubber on the chimney to boil water. We can use COAL with a SCRUBBER on the chimney to boil water. Coal is burning in the ground all over the world already lets use that first
Save the isotopes for the future when we learn how to use the stuff wisely
http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/08/13/one-reactor-at-calvert-cliffs-nuclear-plant-in-maryland-closed-baltimore-sun/
QuoteThe incident, which occurred Sunday, didn't pose a public risk, a spokesman for Constellation Energy Nuclear Group, or CENG, told the newspaper.
so sedative words from official monkeys :) perhaps bot would be more useful in role of spokesperson because it'$ more cheap w/ the identical B$ mantra
sheeple, everything gone hella well. ;D
zorgon, is there any reason something like this, on a larger scale, can't be configured for home use, do do as you suggest??
From wiki/Rover Curiosity
Curiosity is powered by a radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG), like the successful Viking 1 and Viking 2 Mars landers in 1976.
Radioisotope power systems (RPSs) are generators that produce electricity from the natural decay of plutonium-238, which is a non-fissile isotope of plutonium. Heat given off by the natural decay of this isotope is converted into electricity, providing constant power during all seasons and through the day and night, and waste heat can be used via pipes to warm systems, freeing electrical power for the operation of the vehicle and instruments.
Curiosity's RTG is fueled by 4.8 kg (11 lb) of plutonium-238 dioxide supplied by the U.S. Department of Energy packed in 32 cubes, each about the size of a marshmallow (?20 cm3).
Curiosity's power generator is the latest RTG generation built by Boeing and Idaho National Laboratory, called the "Multi-Mission Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator" or MMRTG. Based on classical RTG technology, it represents a more flexible and compact development step, and is designed to produce 125 watts of electrical power from about 2000 watts of thermal power at the start of the mission.
The MMRTG produces less power over time as its plutonium fuel decays: at its minimum lifetime of 14 years, electrical power output is down to 100 watts. The power source will generate 9 MJ (2.5 kilowatt hours) per day, much more than the Mars Exploration Rovers' solar panels, which can generate about 2.1 MJ (0.6 kilowatt hours) per day.
The electrical output from the MMRTG charges two rechargeable lithium-ion batteries. This enables the power subsystem to meet peak power demands of rover activities when the demand temporarily exceeds the generator's steady output level. Each battery has a capacity of about 42 amp-hours.
Quote from: rdunk on August 14, 2012, 03:13:26 AM
zorgon, is there any reason something like this, on a larger scale, can't be configured for home use, do do as you suggest??
From wiki/Rover Curiosity
Curiosity is powered by a radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG), like the successful Viking 1 and Viking 2 Mars landers in 1976.
Radioisotope power systems (RPSs) are generators that produce electricity from the natural decay of plutonium-238, which is a non-fissile isotope of plutonium. Heat given off by the natural decay of this isotope is converted into electricity, providing constant power during all seasons and through the day and night, and waste heat can be used via pipes to warm systems, freeing electrical power for the operation of the vehicle and instruments.
Curiosity's RTG is fueled by 4.8 kg (11 lb) of plutonium-238 dioxide supplied by the U.S. Department of Energy packed in 32 cubes, each about the size of a marshmallow (?20 cm3).
Curiosity's power generator is the latest RTG generation built by Boeing and Idaho National Laboratory, called the "Multi-Mission Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator" or MMRTG. Based on classical RTG technology, it represents a more flexible and compact development step, and is designed to produce 125 watts of electrical power from about 2000 watts of thermal power at the start of the mission.
The MMRTG produces less power over time as its plutonium fuel decays: at its minimum lifetime of 14 years, electrical power output is down to 100 watts. The power source will generate 9 MJ (2.5 kilowatt hours) per day, much more than the Mars Exploration Rovers' solar panels, which can generate about 2.1 MJ (0.6 kilowatt hours) per day.
The electrical output from the MMRTG charges two rechargeable lithium-ion batteries. This enables the power subsystem to meet peak power demands of rover activities when the demand temporarily exceeds the generator's steady output level. Each battery has a capacity of about 42 amp-hours.
Just look at their efficiency ;)
QuoteComo said ratepayers are being charged $650 million a year, or about $54 million a month, for maintenance and operation of the plant even though its two reactors are offline.
"Neither unit is generating electricity or providing other ongoing benefits to customers," Como wrote.
State law says ratepayer payments can be suspended if a power plant is down for nine months. San Onofre won't hit that mark until November but the advocate said it's unlikely to restart earlier.
"Unit 2 will not be online anytime soon and that Unit 3 may never return to service," Como said.
The law allowing utilities to collect plant costs "is not intended to be a free pass for utilities to earn a return on nonfunctioning hardware for nine months,"
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http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_21308274/rate-cut-suggested-san-onofre-ratepayers
funny logic from folks out there :) if they have no desire to fund crippled facility, the thing will be going to f*Kingly meltdown soon 'cause operator will do its best to hurry process through as hell.
http://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/x1405825165/Additional-inspectors-sent-to-Palisades-Nuclear-Power-Plant
Quote from: rdunk on August 14, 2012, 03:13:26 AM
zorgon, is there any reason something like this, on a larger scale, can't be configured for home use, do do as you suggest??
very difficult to get Plutonum 238 for home use :P
Quote from: SarK0Y on August 15, 2012, 08:29:01 PM
funny logic from folks out there :) if they have no desire to fund crippled facility, the thing will be going to f*Kingly meltdown soon 'cause operator will do its best to hurry process through as hell.
AMERICA 2013(http://angryfutureexpat.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/armageddon.jpg)
:o
::)
Amicus, it's true not only there. but i think we can count on a little more Time. btw, what about darpa? :)
heh, official monkeys confirmed the ground problem of nuke plants.
QuoteConnecticut's nuclear power plant shut one of two units on Sunday because seawater used to cool down the plant is too warm.
Unit 2 of Millstone Power Station has occasionally shut for maintenance or other issues, but in its 37-year history it has never gone down due to excessively warm water, spokesman Ken Holt said on Monday.
Water from Long Island Sound is used to cool key components of the plant and is discharged back into the sound. The water cannot be warmer than 75 degrees and following the hottest July on record has been averaging 1.7 degrees above the limit, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission said.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/warm-seawater-forces-conn-nuclear-plant-shutdown-16994978#.UC1j1UwreMg
seems $hit gone wild as hell... f%ck, so predictable.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/28/3782847/drought-could-affect-kansas-nuclear.html
QuoteThe Kansas Water Office said the John Redmond Reservoir was at about 75 percent of its normal capacity as of Aug. 1 but would drop to only 5 percent of its capacity by Nov. 1 if the dry pattern holds, said Earl Lewis, assistant director of the water office.
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Hageman said Coffey County Lake would have to drop an additional 11 feet before the water levels were too low for the plant to operate. Even in that scenario, the plant would have enough water to keep the nuclear reactor cooled in a shutdown mode because it was built in a part of the lake designed to hold water during severe drought or emergencies, she said.
oh, yeah, sounds so optimistic :) to provide up to decade-long drought ne'er been BFD 4
Mother - Nature. i'm strong supporter to use bots instead of spokesmonkeys..... oh, so sorry... spokespersons ;D
QuoteAnother troubled utility is Chubu Electric, which is desperate to save the No. 5 reactor at its Hamaoka Nuclear Power Plant, the newest unit at the site and the country's largest. The unit opened in 2005 but has been offline since last May, when Naoto Kan, then prime minister, effectively ordered it closed on fears that it lies on a particularly tsunami-prone coastline.
During the shutdown, however, about 1,300 gallons of seawater entered the reactor because of a burst pipe, and it is thought to be corroding the reactor core.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/30/business/energy-environment/japan-faces-costs-of-closing-reactors.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
so they have got pure f#-f% situation: decommissioning will ruin their economy into ashes & restarting will accelerate the appearance of new Fukushimas.
QuoteAug 31 (Reuters) - EDF's 915-MW Cruas 4 nuclear reactor stopped for an unplanned outage at 0855 GMT on Friday, French power grid RTE showed on its website.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/edf-outage-idUSL6E8JV5KU20120831
Both nuclear reactors at Nine Mile Point should be shut down until the source of the radioactive tritium water leak (reported Aug. 14) is discovered. Constellation Energy should take the most sincere steps it can to minimize the potential threat to workers' health and to the people living around Nine Mile Point posed by the leak.
http://blog.syracuse.com/opinion/2012/08/close_reactors_to_find_source.html
so glittering systematic pattern makes prediction up to annoying obvious.
Quote from: Heart of a Dog by Mikhail BulgakovRuins have been not in the loos, but in the human minds.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/06/world/europe/2-injured-in-steam-blast-at-french-nuclear-plant.html
QuoteScott Burnell, a spokesman for the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said the safety of America's nuclear plants "is not in jeopardy," because the sources of water cooling the core are self-contained and might have to shut down in some instances if water is either too warm or unavailable.
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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/54861581-68/nuclear-river-plant-power.html.csp#comments
"if water is either too warm or unavailable." 4 how long period & what temperature could be tolerated out the? ::)
QuoteRTE did not indicate the reason for the outage and no one at EDF was immediately available for further details.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/14/france-nuclear-outage-idUSL5E8KEIAO20120914
$hit been c*ming & guys gonna keep their @$$€$ so shy to comment such a regular situation :)
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/09/18/50387.htm
Nice one SarKOY that needs a thread ;D
hot topic! i like coal n nuclear stuff; makes me feel warm and funny inside.
http://www.monroenews.com/news/2012/sep/20/bird-caused-plant-shutdown/ oh, yeah, such a bad*ss birdies, ufos & other f*King stuff: they damnedly have disrupted so ideal nukky plants :)
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/09/20/three-mile-island-nuclear-plant-shutdown/70000806/1
QuoteOriginal post: The Three Mile Island nuclear power plant shut down unexpectedly this afternoon, releasing steam containing radiation "below detectable levels," a utility spokesman told WHTM-TV.
'ahhhhhh, so sweetie it sounds ::)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/24/fortum-loviisa-idUSWEA277220120924
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/09/25/4854456/nuclear-plant-at-monticello-shuts.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/markets-nordic-electricity-idUSL5E8KQ7A120120926