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Title: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 07:47:47 AM
found on the farside of the moon.

Plain to see somethings there.

Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: rdunk on July 21, 2012, 07:57:07 AM
Yes, that is definitely something. It looks like some type of building, inside a square looking wall. Any way to estimate size in this pic?
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 08:14:24 AM
Awesome pic!  Looks like a pyramid to Me.  Regardless of what it is - I just cannot stretch My mind to accept that it just "naturally formed."

ArMaP, Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: petrus4 on July 21, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
To me this shows two pyramids, one step formation, and one non-step, very clearly.  This would perhaps imply that whichever cultural group was responsible for the use of the pyramid as a structural design on Earth, may have also built such structures on the Moon as well.

The next obvious question, to me at least, would be how they were able to accomplish such a thing; although I will say that the Moon's lesser gravity would presumably make such construction much easier than it was on Earth.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 09:02:07 AM
Hoaglands suppose to release information on this zuggeraut.

He did say its a pyramid smack dab in the center of the farside and is some kind of torsion field amplifier. Measurements were estimated at 1 mile wide at each of the four sides and 1/2 mile high.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on July 21, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
To me this shows two pyramids, one step formation, and one non-step, very clearly.  This would perhaps imply that whichever cultural group was responsible for the use of the pyramid as a structural design on Earth, may have also built such structures on the Moon as well.

The next obvious question, to me at least, would be how they were able to accomplish such a thing; although I will say that the Moon's lesser gravity would presumably make such construction much easier than it was on Earth.

I agree it seems to be a structure on top of/within another.  And as for how it was accomplished, I do not doubt that there was plenty of high tech available for the task.


Quote from: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 09:02:07 AM
Hoaglands suppose to release information on this zuggeraut.

He did say its a pyramid smack dab in the center of the farside and is some kind of torsion field amplifier. Measurements were estimated at 1 mile wide at each of the four sides and 1/2 mile high.

Wow.  Interesting info, Gigas.  I am sure it has SOME function - torsion field amplifier sounds good.  The size is astounding!
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: deuem on July 21, 2012, 11:24:05 AM
Very interesting, got my fence pillow out and will be waiting there for more info.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 21, 2012, 11:58:35 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on July 21, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
To me this shows two pyramids, one step formation, and one non-step, very clearly.  This would perhaps imply that whichever cultural group was responsible for the use of the pyramid as a structural design on Earth, may have also built such structures on the Moon as well.

The next obvious question, to me at least, would be how they were able to accomplish such a thing; although I will say that the Moon's lesser gravity would presumably make such construction much easier than it was on Earth.

Greetings:

OK. now we're getting somewhere.

Exactly 'what' is the Moon's "lesser gravity" ?


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Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
I'm guessing a little over two thirds of the Earth's.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 21, 2012, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
I'm guessing a little over two thirds of the Earth's.

Greetings:

You would be guessing wrong.     ;)

This may be a very important fact to know if one were to expect to provide intelligent discourse about something that is so near and dear to this site.     :o

Next.    :-*

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Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: thorfourwinds on July 21, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
From the Can't Leave Sleeping Dogs Lie Department:

Amy Dear, what eggactly is that "guess" based on?

Which might also imply that if one were armed with that information, one might also surmise where the heck Clarke Station really is.

OK

Where is it?

Where is L1?

Why is there air?

Is the false flag really on Opening Day - a scant 8 days away...

Where will you be when TSHTF 27 July 2012?

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Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 12:52:58 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 21, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
From the Can't Leave Sleeping Dogs Lie Department:

Amy Dear, what eggactly is that "guess" based on?

Which might also imply that if one were armed with that information, one might also surmise where the heck Clarke Station really is.

OK

Where is it?

Where is L1?

Why is there air?

Is the false flag really on Opening Day - a scant 8 days away...

Where will you be when TSHTF 27 July 2012?

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I'm basing it on John Lear's info.  And the points at which various space shots claimed to have reached the "neutral" point - all of which suggests about .67 Earth gravity.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
Amy said....
QuoteWow.  Interesting info, Gigas.  I am sure it has SOME function - torsion field amplifier sounds good.  The size is astounding!

Exactly, Amy, as Richard has been working somewhat behind the scenes on his Hyperdimensional Torsion
Field Theory
for some time.

Heres a good piece on HDTFT...

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper_confirm.htm

And, this one doesnt fully resemble many sites weve seen on Earth in the way of Ziggurats or pyramids...and the size is a definite wrench in the theoretic gears!

From the eclipse measurements of May 20th to the Cymatics experiment I shared with Mr Hoagland that same week, its been clear something is happening with the resonance of our solar system and Earth, too.

What it looks like to me, if a device, is some sort of apparatus to amplify, like a capacitor or even a diode of sorts. Also, the one in another design would bring me to think it has a type of differential between the sections that could also present resistance, or impedance to a torsion field..reducing its resonant frequency.

Two layers using the vacuum for a dielectric?

Is it there to create the gravity on the moon, by channeling the natural torsion fields between Earth and the Sun?
Or might it be there to actually control our tides and the moon's non rotating mass?

Thor asked a good question...about gravity, and it got me thinking. Maybe the anomaly isnt a monument or torsion field device, but the generator of the moon's pull on Earth, the origin of our tides and subsequent lunar balance we have seen for so many millenia.

Or, as I posed to Richard a while back, is the Moon really a moon at all, and is it possible it was placed there, or constructed, or brought from somewhere else to serve a defined purpose?(He really liked that one BTW!)

What is the thing that makes me think in circles about the moon, is the way it is locked onto Earth and doesnt rotate...clearly it has been elliptically shaped with not only geological forces, but dare I say artificial forces as well?

Nevertheless, Thor is right...Watch the Olympics, especially if you live in the UK, be aware even if something doesnt seem to happen right away, theres too many things coming together that point to the final galactic alignment being the icing on a torsion field cake.

With us as the filling!
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: deuem on July 21, 2012, 11:24:05 AM
Very interesting, got my fence pillow out and will be waiting there for more info.
C'mon now, Dueum, you know you cant resist running that one:D

Off that fence my friend!
Le
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 08:14:24 AM
Awesome pic!  Looks like a pyramid to Me.  Regardless of what it is - I just cannot stretch My mind to accept that it just "naturally formed."

ArMaP, Your thoughts?
Interesting. It reminds me of a photo zorgon once posted that has something looking like a lozenge, and the angles are more or less the same as those in this photo (from what I remember), but there's something on this one that doesn't look right, pointed by the red arrow below.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/Lua4.png)

Doesn't the separation from the darker to less dark area look too well defined when compared with all other shadows in the photo? And why does the photo have so much noise in it? I always suspect noisy images because that's a good way of hiding tampering, I know because that's what I used when I changed a photo to see if anyone was able to find what was changed. ;D
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 03:59:29 PM
I too, noticed that defined line, ArMaP!

I hate to think Richard is pulling wool, but you guys with the photoshop experience are way more accomplished at sorting these things out than I.

Does that line mean copy and paste?
Or something that has risen from under the Moon surface, showing itself in recent decades?

I have an idea...off to look for a clue!:D
Cheers!
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
Or, as I posed to Richard a while back, is the Moon really a moon at all, and is it possible it was placed there, or constructed, or brought from somewhere else to serve a defined purpose?(He really liked that one BTW!)

According to The Terra Papers...the moon is an AR ship.  It most definitely is artificial and was placed in orbit by the ASA-RRR.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: exuberant1 on July 21, 2012, 04:05:25 PM
It is photoshopped. I am familiar with the area and have indicated the area he manipulated:

(http://i.imgur.com/2UEgt.jpg)

Note:

The manipulator rotated the image once to the right and is working from or recreated a very poor copy.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 04:07:23 PM
Well, ArMaP and all, what Ive discovered on a simple quick google image search is nearly 70 percent of photos taken of Ziggurats are aligned with this outlay...

(http://tracingthepast.com/web_images/ziggurat1.jpg)

The view aspect of these photos are all from the same camera angle, and have the same general appearance...a crumbled center with little definition and a more defined outer wall.

Far be it from I accusing Hoagland of any misdeeds or sneaky pete photoshopping, but the camera angle of all the photos Ive looked at is nearly indentical to the angle if his picture.

Ok Dueum, make room on that fence, Im bringin a pillow and a fence cocktail table for chips and dips, and scotch glasses...we may be here a while!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Interesting. It reminds me of a photo zorgon once posted that has something looking like a lozenge, and the angles are more or less the same as those in this photo (from what I remember), but there's something on this one that doesn't look right, pointed by the red arrow below.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/Lua4.png)

Doesn't the separation from the darker to less dark area look too well defined when compared with all other shadows in the photo? And why does the photo have so much noise in it? I always suspect noisy images because that's a good way of hiding tampering, I know because that's what I used when I changed a photo to see if anyone was able to find what was changed. ;D

I don't know about the origins of the photo, but if that was constructed, using lighter colored rock, One might expect a clean line - though in looking at it, the line is not as clean as it first appears, suggesting it is an illusion of "straightness..."
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: exuberant1 on July 21, 2012, 04:05:25 PM
It is photoshopped. I am familiar with the area and have indicated the area he manipulated:

(http://i.imgur.com/2UEgt.jpg)

Good catch, EX1!
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 04:14:23 PM
And theres the glaring reality...well done Exuberant1!

Pho-to-shop! Shame on you Richard!:(

Le
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Lunica on July 21, 2012, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 04:09:06 PM
Good catch, EX1!

Maybe I missed it in plaine sight. But where to see or read about this release first hand? I dont see it on his website?
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: exuberant1 on July 21, 2012, 04:24:29 PM
Hoagland's website isn't really useful for anything other than its entertainment value.


Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Pimander on July 21, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Doesn't the separation from the darker to less dark area look too well defined when compared with all other shadows in the photo? And why does the photo have so much noise in it? I always suspect noisy images because that's a good way of hiding tampering
Is that image from Hoagland?  If so, isn't there more information on sources for the image?
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on July 21, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
I don't know about the origins of the photo, but if that was constructed, using lighter colored rock, One might expect a clean line - though in looking at it, the line is not as clean as it first appears, suggesting it is an illusion of "straightness..."
But I wouldn't expect such a clean difference from one colour to the other at the bottom, where the supposed wall meats the ground, specially when it looks like that line has a better resolution (looks sharper) than all other lines in the image.

But thanks to exuberant1 we now know it's a fake. :)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Pimander on July 21, 2012, 04:44:05 PM
Quote from: exuberant1 on July 21, 2012, 04:24:29 PM
Hoagland's website isn't really useful for anything other than its entertainment value.
Sorry mate, I missed your earlier post. ::)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: deuem on July 21, 2012, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 02:41:08 PM
C'mon now, Dueum, you know you cant resist running that one:D

Off that fence my friend!
Le

This is the hi res photo link. You must rotate it CW 90 degrees to get his view.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/38/5564.jpg (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/38/5564.jpg)

Back on the fence, deuem
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 05:15:42 PM
I have Richard as a facebook friend and cant find anything on his fb page about this.
If it was from him, he would have posted it there...somethings fishy.

Le
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Lunica on July 21, 2012, 05:19:53 PM
But @Gigas must have seen it somewhere since he presents the image in the OP?

If this is photoshopped as it is...  ::) Then I like to see where Richard Hoagland released this fraud.  8)

Maybe @Gigas can help....
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: deuem on July 21, 2012, 05:32:09 PM
On the low res version there are lots of things to find if you wish but I would say it is just the low quality.

On the hi res, if anyone wants to check out this area there are a few interesting lines and maybe a bridge looking thing.

(http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa458/deuem/AS11-38-5564HRcircle.jpg)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Here is more on hoaglands image. You decide what you want from it. I dunno, and will be looking closer at it in photochops.


http://www.coasttocoastam.com/pages/hoagland-images-lunar-ziggurat
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 06:37:50 PM
Brightened in photochopper.


Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggerat
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 06:48:29 PM
OK, sleuths, heres the clue to look deeper into this drama.

Here it is to search and see.

AS11-38-5564

Thats a naza image number that was on the image I slapped on the post.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
Hint, this maybe a scanned photo from Lazar to Lear from way back. Lear would know if he's in the mood to tell.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggerat
Post by: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 07:01:36 PM
Quote from: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 06:48:29 PM
OK, sleuths, heres the clue to look deeper into this drama.

Here it is to search and see.

AS11-38
-5564

Thats a naza image number that was on the image I slapped on the post.

Ahhh, Hoagland worked for NASA when those pics were taken I bet...gotta ask him...off to facebook!

In that nasa image are some polygonal anomalies....
Cheers!
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Pimander on July 21, 2012, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
Hint, this maybe a scanned photo from Lazar to Lear from way back. Lear would know if he's in the mood to tell.
none of this hint bollox.... WTF with the games lol.  If you know say so. :P
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 07:20:04 PM
To find answers one must bread crumb obscure inquiry because as it is, thats the way of the world.

You could ask Zorgon if John fails to report in.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: Pimander on July 21, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
Is that image from Hoagland?  If so, isn't there more information on sources for the image?

The clip Gigas posted has all you need in the image title

AS11-38-5564 (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/38/5564.jpg)

Quote from: deuem on July 21, 2012, 05:32:09 PM
On the hi res, if anyone wants to check out this area

That is not high res :P  THIS is high res

(http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/38/5564.jpg) (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/38/5564.jpg)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggerat
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 07:37:24 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 07:01:36 PM
Ahhh, Hoagland worked for NASA when those pics were taken I bet...gotta ask him...off to facebook!

In that nasa image are some polygonal anomalies....
Cheers!

Yes, ask him on facebook. He was suppose to be all over the place on this already

Edit to ad: Perhaps Littleenki, ask him to weigh in over here if he could.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Interesting. It reminds me of a photo zorgon once posted that has something looking like a lozenge, and the angles are more or less the same as those in this photo (from what I remember), but there's something on this one that doesn't look right, pointed by the red arrow below.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/Lua4.png)

That would be THIS one  and mine is not photoshoped :P

Hidden Building
Apollo 11
AS11-41-6156


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon9/AS11_41_6156/Structure01B.png)(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon9/AS11_41_6156/Structure01A.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon9/AS11_41_6156/Structure02a.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon9/AS11_41_6156/Structure02b.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon9/AS11_41_6156/Structure02c.png)

LUCKY BREAK

Every now and then we get lucky and the censors actually miss something...

The image above is another one the censors missed. Its easy to see why... at a glance this looks like nothing but craters and moon dust, though a lot of terrain looks like neat rectangular rows.

But upon closer inspection, there is one of the best anomalies I have seen tucked away neatly into a crater. This image came to me from an anonymous member from ATS in good standing with the Pegasus Research Group via email. Below the area of interest is circled. You can download the original high resolution image by clicking on the photo above.

The original full size image is available here at the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal

Location

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon9/AS11_41_6156/AS11-41-6156_Circled-Area.JPG)

Original Click for full size

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon9/AS11_41_6156/AS11-41-6156.jpg) (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-41-6156HR.jpg)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 07:46:09 PM
Zorgon, I ask for your opinion on something that came to me some time ago. I even layed it out when OM was online for you.

That something is war in space and the moon as seen pock marked with energy weapon scaring.

The moon was a battle feild from above.

You say ?
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 07:47:47 AM
found on the farside of the moon.

Plain to see somethings there.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2063.0;attach=1601;image)

Well there are only two possibilities...

A) Hoagland has a copy of images from NASA that are different from the ones we see. That is what he claims a lot with his insider Ken Johnston...

However when the book Dark Mission was released we did a huge thread on that at ATS, sold many books for him, even John bought one for $56.00 (and I never got a signed copy :P)

In that thread it was revealed that the images Ken Johnston had were stored in a safe spot. Turns out that they were all tossed out. I will dig up that ATS thread... post the relevant details.

B) The other option is that Hoagland faked this... and if THAT is true we might as well stop looking for anomalies completely... because he is making a very good living off selling his anomalies while we, looking for the real ones, are starving :P

But needing to fake them for selling those books? Hell our team could makew some duzzies :P

Below is the same area from the high res jpg. I haven't even pulled the .tiff yet.

The area looks interesting to be sure... would be a spot to dig, but that pyramid isn't there

So who photosopped it?  I suppose many will say NASA did to remove it :D

In that case, let Mr Hoagland produce a copy of the original he worked from... something he never does. In fact some of the image numbers on his site are wrong. I think he counts on most people never looking past the clip

ArMaP and I agree... without showing the original  its fun but just not useful

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/AS11-38-5564.png)

This spot is interesting though :D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/AS11-38-5564a.png)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 07:46:09 PM
You say ?

AARGGGGGG :P

Have been planning to do that "War in Space" thread for many years. Never get the time. Problem is all that research is in print  before computers

I will make that a priority next week  Feel free to nudge me via PM ;)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 08:35:02 PM
BTW you all missed my BEST anomaly... Posted this in January and not one reply :P

Asteroid Eros Rectangular Structure on Eros  (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=493.msg4107#msg4107)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: johnlear on July 21, 2012, 08:54:08 PM
Quote from: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
Hint, this maybe a scanned photo from Lazar to Lear from way back. Lear would know if he's in the mood to tell.



That would have been before 2001 as that is when Bob moved back to ABQ.

I don't think I knew how to copy and send pictures at that time.

And anyway Bob and I never sent moon pics back and forth.

Good until midnight.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Littleenki on July 21, 2012, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 08:16:19 PM
AARGGGGGG :P

Have been planning to do that "War in Space" thread for many years. Never get the time. Problem is all that research is in print  before computers

I will make that a priority next week  Feel free to nudge me via PM ;)

There are a crapload of indicators right here on Earth of a past war in space...any outside of us would be proof of et life!

Not that I need anymore of that!

I like it...consider the nudge coming soon:D

Cheers, Z!
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
If this one was faked (as it looks like), it's not even new, as we can see in this page (http://www.holloworbs.com/Pyramids.htm), near the bottom of the page.

Those images are from 2003.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
Those images are from 2003.

(http://www.holloworbs.com/Pyrami2.gif)

Your right LOL and we already discussed this one in John Lear's Moon thread in 2007

Hoagland didn't photoshop it  he stole it :P

QuoteOriginally posted by SteveR posted on 12-1-2007 @ 05:35 AM (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread225616/pg72)
Very cool that people are saying ice. Yes, this is a cold landscape!

Does anyone see the "crate" or box?

I will reveal all soon :D

As an aside, I'd like to request anyone with connections to retrieve full size pictures of AS11-38-5564 and Mariner 9 frame 4209-75.

Both pictures contain the most stunning evidence I've ever seen. Here you are, AS11 (http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5857/as11385564jp5.jpg), Mariner (http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2173/mariner9airportcomplexnhg5.jpg).

(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5857/as11385564jp5.jpg)

Been so long even I forgot  :-[
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 09:48:04 PM
OK hoagland followers. Here is what he said about it 7-20-12. I slapped and photochopped it together for you to hear.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYCR2bUsTSA
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: johnlear on July 21, 2012, 08:54:08 PM


That would have been before 2001 as that is when Bob moved back to ABQ.

I don't think I knew how to copy and send pictures at that time.

And anyway Bob and I never sent moon pics back and forth.

Good until midnight.

Your appearence has won a gold shilling for the good until midnight caveat. Information is humanly dynamic.

:D
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
Quote from: Gigas on July 21, 2012, 09:48:04 PM
OK hoagland followers. Here is what he said about it 7-20-12.
Someone should tell him that this is from 2003. :)

There's another photo (AS11-44-6614) that shows the same area, although farther away, so it looks smaller, but it's enough to see that there isn't any ziggurat there.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/AS11-44-66141.png)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: exuberant1 on July 22, 2012, 05:39:43 AM
Quote from: zorgon on July 21, 2012, 08:06:27 PM

B) The other option is that Hoagland faked this... and if THAT is true we might as well stop looking for anomalies completely... because he is making a very good living off selling his anomalies while we, looking for the real ones, are starving :P



To be fair, Hoagland's strong point is his public speaking abilities, not his selenography. 

He tells people what they want to hear and does so in a soothing cadence.  The anomalies are just bonuses, it is Hoagland that people go to see.

*I don't like Hoagland. He does for lunar research what icebergs do for titanics.

Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: rdunk on July 22, 2012, 07:02:58 AM
The entire purported NASA photo looks to me as if it has been messed with. Many of the "shadows" looked faked, to me. And when magnified there is some of the usual NASA hairy looking stuff, used to obfuscate what is in a photo. I have seen that used numerous times.

But then, what do I know?  ;)  I would trust what Hoagland puts out probably just as much, and maybe more, than what we have from NASA. But then again, what do I know. I only have just a small amount of "photo proof" that NASA does mess with the photos.  ;)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 22, 2012, 07:07:19 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on July 21, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
There's another photo (AS11-44-6614) that shows the same area, although farther away, so it looks smaller, but it's enough to see that there isn't any ziggurat there.

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/AS11-44-66141.png)

okay buddy you asked for this :P

All I see is blurry, fuzzy rocks in that picture :P
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 22, 2012, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: exuberant1 on July 22, 2012, 05:39:43 AM
To be fair, Hoagland's strong point is his public speaking abilities, not his selenography.

Gotcha  8) The snake oil hucksters and the used car sales man are in the main stream media (like Nassim Haramein on National Geo) while any serious researchers are laughed at for being lunatics

Okay kewl... time to hang up the tin foil hat and go dig some rocks

Quote*I don't like Hoagland. He does for lunar research what icebergs do for titanics.

I am sure he gets a hefty check from NASA to help keep up images :P
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Pimander on July 25, 2012, 12:57:01 AM
If you would like the title of the thread changing to include the work fake let me know.

"Richard Hoagland just released this fake lunar zuggeraut picture" or something? :)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: exuberant1 on July 25, 2012, 06:04:55 PM
I just checked YouTube and it looks like this hoagland-ziggurat-fiasco has been getting vidyas made about it, and podcasts too.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Gigas on July 25, 2012, 07:29:51 PM
I'm beginning to seriously wonder about that boy.

He said he was going to update his website on this major find as of 7-20-12.

I just checked, nothing.

Is this a case all about getting hits on his latest breaking information site that has nothing breaking since 2009. I also can't help but notice he fails to allow the viewer a search function to even look stuff up on his front.

WTF is this, side show ricky hoaxland the circus carnival barker making noise to attract the curious. Maybe its got something to do with, are you sitting down, 19.5 touchahedral bs'n.

I'm a little disappointed in hoagland right now.
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: zorgon on July 25, 2012, 09:12:11 PM
Quote from: exuberant1 on July 25, 2012, 06:04:55 PM
I just checked YouTube and it looks like this hoagland-ziggurat-fiasco has been getting vidyas made about it, and podcasts too.

See? i TOLD you we took the wrong direction :P

If ya can't beat em, join em :P

To heck with reality... lets go fer the BUCKS
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Littleenki on July 25, 2012, 09:46:58 PM
QuoteI'm beginning to seriously wonder about that boy.

He said he was going to update his website on this major find as of 7-20-12.

I just checked, nothing.

He didnt post any results from the paraconical pendulum test he supposedly financed, so noone knows yet.

Hes going for the bucks as Z put it, I did a cymatics experiment during the eclipse with undeniable results for Richard, and he was so excited to hear those results, yet when I went to share with him how it worked, he didnt even bat an eyelash. Just a "keep us in the fold, Dave"

He did tell me his website is old news and hes now a facebooker, and does all his correspondence there now. His forum even is still up, taking 4 bucks a month from folks who post to an empty room. Sad.

So he didnt get the results, and I will keep them for me, even made a thread about it, but noone replied and it went away....OOoohhhhh!! :P

Maybe Ill bump that thread.....

Beware of the new tricky Dickie!
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 26, 2012, 03:51:05 AM
I had a brief conversation with Hoaxland on facebook sometime ago about people making money off of serious dicussions/research on items such as 911, Nasa doctored photos and space anomlies. His basic reply was people should be rewarded for their hard work. (especially if you make crap up). He's a tool.. A huckster.. IMHO

Rock 8)
Title: Re: Richard Hoagland just released this zuggeraut
Post by: vril on August 10, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on July 26, 2012, 03:51:05 AM
I had a brief conversation with Hoaxland on facebook sometime ago about people making money off of serious dicussions/research on items such as 911, Nasa doctored photos and space anomlies. His basic reply was people should be rewarded for their hard work. (especially if you make crap up). He's a tool.. A huckster.. IMHO

Rock 8)

Did hoaxland ever respond to Jay Weidner's findings in Kubrick's Odyssey that basically debunks everything Richard has been saying about Apollo photos for the last 15 years?