I listened as this was on another forum, thanks our skywatcher. I wouldn't be surprised this year if something like this happens, but nothing I can do about it if it does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xya4jyy8RCs
Interesting discussion biggles. Time line is pretty close, so this we will know about, one way or the other fairly quickly.
One obvious "boo-boo" in the discussion - one of the guys was speaking to the distance this object would be when passing the earth - stated to be up to 10 earth diameters distance. He then goes on to say that would be about a quarter of a million miles, since the "earth has a diameter of about 24,000 miles".
Well, the fact is, the diameter of the Earth is about 8,000 miles, and not 24,000. So this thing (if it exists) would pass within 80,000 miles of this old Earth. That's pretty close isn't it, for something like this?
I had a dream, it was so realistic, I walked outside and looked up and saw this in the sky...
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh605/subatomic_dude/sun_eclipse.jpg)
Marshall Masters was predicting Planet X to arrive for the last few years...
I would think if there was anything that it would be severely highlighted on his website...
At the moment hes referring to December 2012...
http://yowusa.com/
Quote from: COSMO on August 02, 2012, 11:33:27 PM
I had a dream, it was so realistic, I walked outside and looked up and saw this in the sky...
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh605/subatomic_dude/sun_eclipse.jpg)
Greetings:
Rrrrrright... :o
... and you snapped that shot with your Brownie ;)
and uploaded immediately for our edification and enjoyment... 8)
If you please, a description of that 'unique' photograph. ???
Thanking you in advance.
Peace Love Light
tfw (http://serve.mysmiley.net/animals/animal0028.gif) (//http://)
Liberty & Equality or Revolution
Quote from: thorfourwinds on August 03, 2012, 12:59:46 AM
Greetings:
Rrrrrright... :o
... and you snapped that shot with your Brownie ;)
and uploaded immediately for our edification and enjoyment... 8)
If you please, a description of that 'unique' photograph. ???
Thanking you in advance.
Peace Love Light
tfw (http://serve.mysmiley.net/animals/animal0028.gif) (//http://)
Liberty & Equality or Revolution
Sure, I took it with my dream camera! lol
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/384720_480525615292320_1353162964_n.jpg)
I created that pic awhile back after my dream just to show what I had seen. It was a very clear, realistic dream and in it I had a sense that something else had moved into the solar system and was between the Earth and the Sun and was the size and position in the pic I created. Maybe I spend too much time on the internet reading about planet x and such! ::)
NIBIRU IS COMING (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2214.msg30671#msg30671)
:o
::)
In the short interview I posted I dont believe I heard the word Nibiru; but at the same time the earth is supposed to be heading into the centre of the galaxy? around about this time I think so I wouldnt be surprised that some sort of object didnt travel close to earth. Which even if it was 80,000 miles out or closer would have a major effect down here.
Even if I can't get to buy my coffee, cigarettes and chocolate there will be bloody hell to pay by me alone, cuz I will go nuts then; evenmore so than I am already. >:(
The interview in the video is Cliff High and John Moore, not sure who John Moore is but he had contacts telling him not to go public with this or his car might blow up with him in it. ???
Hmmm, has anyone else taken images of this object which clearly is able to be seen with the naked eye?
I sungaze morning and evening for months now, and havent seen anything even close to this level of clarity.
Ill be getting the filters out for the t-scope, and looking for this thing...
Any ideas where we should be looking and at what times for the Southeast US anyone?
Should I unhook the boat from the trailer and sit in it or not?
Cheers!
Quote from: Littleenki on August 03, 2012, 06:45:50 AM
Hmmm, has anyone else taken images of this object which clearly is able to be seen with the naked eye?
I sungaze morning and evening for months now, and havent seen anything even close to this level of clarity.
Ill be getting the filters out for the t-scope, and looking for this thing...
Any ideas where we should be looking and at what times for the Southeast US anyone?
Should I unhook the boat from the trailer and sit in it or not?
Cheers!
Apparently it is supposed to be coming in from the south. Now I am in oz, the southern most part; so I am thinking would we able to see it because we're down south.
BTW, the dates given were from 16th August to 26 September I think.
And one wonders when you hear about those martial law roundups that this could be a reason for it.
Just speculating on stuff here.
If it even looks something is coming I will be at the supermarket first thing to make sure I get my coffee and other necessities like cigarettes and chocolate...............oh and lots of cat food for my partner (in avatar), that's a must. :P
Just for fun, I took that photo of the sun and object into CAD and calculated some data. Using the size of the moon as they said in the video, the object would be 3,572,000 km or 2,219,537 miles away from Earth at the time of the photo. If using the speed of Earths rotation around the Sun as an average speed ( 6,000+ miles per hour ) It would take about 13 days to get here from the time of the photo. So if the photo was taken today or yesterday it would be around the right size and distance for the picture to be here on the 17th. I have no idea about the 26th of September, which would mean it is going very slow, only about 2,300 mph.
They also stated that the distance would be from 5 to 10 Earths. Ok the moon is 6+ So it is around the same distance which could cause a problem for the moon. Depending on what the object was made of, would change things a lot. If it were just a big rock or a solid metal ball. The gravity and affects on Earth would change. The worst thing being, Hit the Moon. Either a rock or metal ball, it would take it out completely if a head on happened. Even a glancing blow might send it out of orbit.
If it was on the outside of 7 to 10 Earths the affects would be a lot less and maybe not even noticeable if it were just a rock. A lot would depend on where the moon was at the time of passing orbits.
With the photo they posted the Object is not coming out of the South but the East or West depending on where you are. The photo looks like it was taken on Earth looking at the sun. Not from space. If you had that photo from space looking down on the Sun the object would miss us by over 2 million miles. Now if they had said it will pass us on the southern side of the Equator that would be better. It is not coming in from the south but passing on the south is OK to say. These guys also got a lot of numbers mixed up in the interview so who knows why, nerves or brain dead?
If it is coming in from the Sun it would be hard to see and you would need to block out the sun to photograph the shadow of the object. At night time you would be unable to see it because it is on the suns side and not the dark side. So you could only see it in the daytime for sure. Mid day would work.
If this object was coming out of the South as stated and the photo is faked then no one would see it till it passed us. Unless you want to go to Antarctica!
Ok, fun over!! Deuem
Great breakdown, D! I do wonder if this is another youtube smoke blowing affair, and although we hear two voices who are supposedly people we know, how do we know without video that they are the ones speaking?
Also, with the way this thing sat still for the video camera, it wasnt moving that fast, and it wouldne cover the AU by August 17th.
93 million miles at least from us, and who knows how far back from the sun it was when videoed, let alone if the anomaly was real.
Personally I would think something like that would be a craft or ship of some kind, and its apparent static position is telling of it being something other than an asteroid or planet...and why is the video so short?
If I found something like that, the camera would be running constantly and there wouldbe a live feed online until the ptb took it out.
Mysterious...yes...convincing...not yet...but I have stocked up on Tequila and Gasoline to the tune of one case, and four hundred gallons!LOL!
And the boat is now unhooked from the trailer and fueled up...guns cleaned and dried food prepared anyways, so dried beef on the boat during a boiling tsunami ocean event anyone? ;)
Hope we get some warning though, I want to make sure to grab my laptop and keep you guys informed from the front!Yeah right!
Cheers!
Quote from: biggles on August 03, 2012, 06:33:54 AM
but at the same time the earth is supposed to be heading into the centre of the galaxy?
um no we are not heading for the center of the galaxy for a few billion year... :P
Quote from: COSMO on August 02, 2012, 11:33:27 PM
I had a dream, it was so realistic, I walked outside and looked up and saw this in the sky...
Hey I got one of those too WOW... even has the ISS in it :D
(http://jpgmag.com/news/assets_c/2011/01/eclipse-thumb-500x375-1241.jpg) (http://jpgmag.com/news/eclipse.jpg)
French photographer Thierry Legault - Click for full size image
After all the Hype and predictions in the last few years about Nibiru supposedly coming before 2012....I lost interest in following when nothing happened...
If there is something coming in this next few weeks...
I have two strong stock market cycles coming in the August...that may see the stock market decline...
One August 6th/7th and Around August 21st/22nd...
If those in power do know something....this could see some sort of panic in the markets...
The other side of the coin is the markets if they react may also rally instead...
I can often work out the timing for these cycles, but not always the direction..
My last cycles that I indicated between March / May 2012 still hold..
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1002.0
French photographer Thierry Legault took the above photo which shows both the moon and the International Space Station eclipsing the sun earlier this week. He only had 0.86 seconds to capture the image. He tells NPR how he did it:
I used one telescope (one is already difficult to carry by airplane with the luggage limitations!). I used a reflex camera in continuous shooting. The timing and placing (my position on the ground must be accurate at better than two to three kilometers along the passage line) was calculated with a special site and checked with a GPS. This needs a lot of preparation in advance, and also a lot of training with the equipment.
Here is the full size
http://jpgmag.com/news/eclipse.jpg
Quote from: zorgon on August 03, 2012, 10:22:50 PM
um no we are not heading for the center of the galaxy for a few billion year... :P
I thought I read numerous times we were heading into an alignment or centre of something?
The short vid in the OP is part of over an hour interview between Kerry Cassidy, Cliff High? and John Moore, I could get the link if anyone wants it.
And it's really really close!!!!!!
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/30/article-2180880-14463EA0000005DC-7_964x931.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2180880/Amazing-image-showing-Marss-moon-Phobos-looming-Grenoble.html
;)
Quote from: biggles on August 04, 2012, 02:42:56 AM
I thought I read numerous times we were heading into an alignment or centre of something?
The alignment that they are talking about is when the galactic center will be blocked from view by the Sun
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4VI-kGqyQ0Q/T2QyTEUm2iI/AAAAAAAAArg/mjq-lBrRrJA/s1600/2012+Sun+Earth+Galactic+core+alignment.jpg)
Now one site says;
'The Mayan calendar ends in Dec 21(supposedly) as the Sun is crosses the galactic center's gravitational field (around which our whole universe is centered and which the Sun orbits (and us with it as we orbit the Sun"
No we crossed the plane of the Galaxy 2 million years ago and are going 'up' and out. Currently we are 50 LY above the plane and will go out to 250LY before bobbing back down....
Some show it this way... but that is not correct
(http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/2012-galactic-alignment-sun-earth-milky-way.jpg)
Another incorrect version but they ARE correct that this 'alignment' happens ANNUALLY because we orbit the Sun on a one year orbit :D
(http://www.infinitelymystical.com/essays/images-2012/annual-galactic-alignment-2.jpg)
This is the more correct motion of our system
(http://worldendsin2012.com/Images/galactic_alignment.gif)
But as i said we are currently moving 'up' in relation to that image,
QuoteThe Sun is moving towards Lambda Herculis at 20 kilometers per second or 12 miles per second. Or in units "per hour": 72,000 kilometers per hour or 45,000 miles per hour. This speed is in a frame of rest if the other stars were all standing still.
The three-dimensional picture of the Sun's movement through the Galaxy is a little more complicated.
The Sun is moving upwards, out of the plane of the Milky Way, at a speed of 7 kilometers per second. Currently the Sun lies 50 light-years above the mid-plane of the galaxy, and its motion is steadily carrying it further away.
But the gravitational pull of the stars in the Galactic (Milky Way) plane is slowing down the Sun's escape. The astronomer Frank Bash estimates that in 14 million years the sun will reach its maximum height above the Galactic disk. From that 250 light-year position, it will be pulled back towards the plane of the Galaxy. Passing through, it will travel to a point 250 light-years below the disk, then oscillate upwards again to reach its present position 66 million years from now. We crossed the plane 2 million years ago. We are currently in the thick of the galactic disk and our view of distant regions is largely blocked by dust but 10-20 million years from now, our motion will allow a full view of our starry galaxy.
The Sun-Galactic center distance is 25,000 light-years -- plus or minus 2,000 light-years. The galaxy is thought to be 100,000 light-years in diameter and we are thought to be about halfway out from the center
Now I know yawl say the gubment and NASA etal LIE... but in this case you can see for yourself that we are ABOVE the plane of the Galaxy no in ir by looking outside at the Milky Way on a clear night
You are Here
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Space/sig05-010.jpg)
Interesting comparison of size of Mars moon Phobos against the city of Grenoble. The other image is also interesting...
Now one wonders why this was printed in last weeks newspapers...when this thread is discussing a similar comparison ...
================
And it's really really close!!!!!!
A little something to consider.
According to ancient Christian Writings what the human Species interprets today, as the "
End"
is still about
1,000 years away yet.... ;D
(According to the writings only
6,000 years have passed out of the
7,000 year period)
But I will say we are about to experience the
Peak of the Earths "
Thermal Cycle" once again.
Proof.....
What is interpret as "
Global Warming" by some...
The Earth goes through a "
Thermal Cycle" repeating it self over and over again. Hence the "
Ice Ages" etc.
When we pass through the Peak and the Trough of the "
Thermal Cycle", the Earth
also goes through Changes involving the
location of the Seas.
During Half the Cycle the Seas exist above the Earths Crust and during the other half
of the cycle the Seas are Located under the Earths Crust.
You can find reference to this in The Book of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ".
I suspect you may also find the same evidence in some form or other in other
ancient writings.
It was the Change over in the Earths "
Thermal Cycle", which brought about the
extinctionof many species on earth such as the Dinosaurs etc.
This Change over in the
Cycle could be what is described in the biblical account
of the great Flood. (perhaps another Change over, in the Earths "
Thermal Cycle" ?)
These Changes are controlled
through the Sun.
People forget that we receive energy from the sun as well as heat being generated
inside the earth due to Gravitational forces, influenced by the Sun and the Moon.
Causing the Earth to expand and Contract.
Energy
IN verses Energy
Out also cause the Earth to expand a little and Contract
through the Earths "
Thermal Cycle" too.
This could be why in Christian writings they refer to there being
signs in the Sun
and the Moon and the Seas (or Waves) Roaring and great distress upon the Earth, men's hearts
failing them for fear, of what is coming on the Earth,
BUT the End is
NOT yet, but for a Time appointed.
The Seas
Roaring, is to do with the changes taking place, regarding the Seas.
In The Book of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" it is written in one part "
And there was No more Seas."
For the Seas to
relocate under the Earths Crust again, takes suppringly very little.
If you view one of Zorgons Forums... "
Man made Disasters"
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1007.0
It shows what can happen from a drilling rig.
If Sea water is able to interract with the Earths Mantle (or deeper) due to Techtonic Plate
interactions, imagine what may happen to the seas.
I am referring to the "
Trenches" near Japan down to New Zealand !
Regarding what some have witnessed in "Remote Viewing", see another of Zorgons Forums...
"
The Kill Shot"
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1127.msg11287#msg11287
May result from signs seen in the Sun according to ancient christian writings,
just before the Change over in the Earths "
Thermal Cycle".
We Can Also find refernce to this event in "
The Book of E'NOCH I-XXXVI" in Ch. 1 verse 7 Quote;
Quote7. And The Earth shall be wholly rent in sunder.
etc etc.
I just wonder, how
many other writings from different Cultures also describe this Event ?
Also remember the Earths "Crust" is less than 0.5% of the Earths Diameter.
The Earths "Crust" is like the "Slag" on near molten metal, in a blast furnace.
Hi Matrix,
Still not got around to be ready to try and study your work in the details that I would hope to...( as I know when I start it may require some deep thought..which my mind is not in the right state recently to do)
I note your comments on how the Sun effects the earth with the changing thermal cycles. I suspect this is something we often overlook...I often thought it being mainly a lunar effect...but its no doubt a combination.
I am glad that I think that you indicate that we will be safe for a while yet !... I didn't want to pack my bags and flee in the coming weeks...! :-)
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on August 04, 2012, 04:54:55 AM
A little something to consider.
According to ancient Christian Writings what the human Species interprets today, as the "End"
is still about 1,000 years away yet.... ;D
(According to the writings only 6,000 years have passed out of the 7,000 year period)
But I will say we are about to experience the Peak of the Earths "Thermal Cycle" once again.
Proof.....
What is interpret as "Global Warming" by some...
The Earth goes through a "Thermal Cycle" repeating it self over and over again. Hence the "Ice Ages" etc.
When we pass through the Peak and the Trough of the "Thermal Cycle", the Earth
also goes through Changes involving the location of the Seas.
During Half the Cycle the Seas exist above the Earths Crust and during the other half
of the cycle the Seas are Located under the Earths Crust.
You can find reference to this in The Book of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ".
I suspect you may also find the same evidence in some form or other in other
ancient writings.
It was the Change over in the Earths "Thermal Cycle", which brought about the extinction
of many species on earth such as the Dinosaurs etc.
This Change over in the Cycle could be what is described in the biblical account
of the great Flood. (perhaps another Change over, in the Earths "Thermal Cycle" ?)
These Changes are controlled through the Sun.
People forget that we receive energy from the sun as well as heat being generated
inside the earth due to Gravitational forces, influenced by the Sun and the Moon.
Causing the Earth to expand and Contract.
Energy IN verses Energy Out also cause the Earth to expand a little and Contract
through the Earths "Thermal Cycle" too.
This could be why in Christian writings they refer to there being signs in the Sun
and the Moon and the Seas (or Waves) Roaring and great distress upon the Earth, men's hearts
failing them for fear, of what is coming on the Earth, BUT the End is NOT yet, but for a Time appointed.
The Seas Roaring, is to do with the changes taking place, regarding the Seas.
In The Book of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" it is written in one part "And there was No more Seas."
For the Seas to relocate under the Earths Crust again, takes suppringly very little.
If you view one of Zorgons Forums... "Man made Disasters"
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1007.0
It shows what can happen from a drilling rig.
If Sea water is able to interract with the Earths Mantle (or deeper) due to Techtonic Plate
interactions, imagine what may happen to the seas.
I am referring to the "Trenches" near Japan down to New Zealand !
Regarding what some have witnessed in "Remote Viewing", see another of Zorgons Forums...
"The Kill Shot"
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1127.msg11287#msg11287
May result from signs seen in the Sun according to ancient christian writings,
just before the Change over in the Earths "Thermal Cycle".
We Can Also find refernce to this event in "The Book of E'NOCH I-XXXVI" in Ch. 1 verse 7 Quote;
etc etc.
I just wonder, how many other writings from different Cultures also describe this Event ?
Thermal cycle for sure! Looks like it could get A LOT WARMER!
Drilling discovers ancient Antarctic rainforest
Drilling of the seabed off Antarctica has revealed that rainforest grew on the frozen continent 52 million years ago, scientists said Thursday, warning it could be ice-free again within decades.
The study of sediment cores drilled from the ocean floor off Antarctica's east coast revealed fossil pollens that had come from a "near-tropical" forest covering the continent in the Eocene period, 34-56 million years ago.
Kevin Welsh, an Australian scientist who travelled on the 2010 expedition, said analysis of temperature-sensitive molecules in the cores had showed it was "very warm" 52 million years ago, measuring about 20 degrees Celsius (68 F).
"There were forests existing on the land, there wouldn't have been any ice, it would have been very warm," Welsh told AFP of the study, published in the journal Nature.
"It's quite surprising, because obviously our image of Antarctica is that it's very cold and full of ice."
http://news.yahoo.com/drilling-discovers-ancient-antarctic-rainforest-084041105.html
where was the equator when this rainforest grew? are we talking rainforest like oregon or rainforest like panama?
Wonder if this has any bearing on such a claim?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNqIqKZbsTQ
Rays aplenty, and not the baseball team!
Le
They keep talking about living near coastal areas would be bad but if what they are saying is true it does not matter where you are living on the planet as all life would be either scorched or freeze once earths orbit has more of an elliptical orbit.
At least near the coast we all have ARKS...ER...I mean boats!
Le
Back in February of this year, Terral Croft went on radio with his observations, though I have a hard time accepting these events too be factual and verifiable, seems as if there is something influencing our current state of affairs as far as Sink holes, Earth Quakes and other natural disasters that could be attributed to Galactic magnetic and particle shifts with in these scenario's.
If we take into consideration the Mayan calendar and other ancient civilizations warning of such events, it is easily misinterpreted and construed as hype on the most colossal scale, and we should remain attentive with open mind, because, if these events are going to happen, even Meteor impact or comet, there is not much we can do about it if it is caught to late. IMHO.
QuoteThen on Monday, February 20th at 9pm EST, the sagacious Jim Marrs of Epic Voyages Radio tunes into Terral Croft's galactic broadcast of dire warnings of catastrophic Earth bound objects already set to course.
TERRAL CROFT is an amateur astronomer, researcher, and popular blogger who dedicates his time to seeking catastrophic celestial bodies in orbit of the Earth's path. His warning comes through his video blogs and newsletters with detailed mathematical equations of trajectory and coordinates of these celestial bodies. Terral is mostly known for his charting of the widely researched comet Elenin. His latest predictions has been focused on terrestrial events of earthquakes caused by axial shifts of the Earth's position relative to the sun.
The broadcast of this radio interview:
http://inceptionradionetwork.com/epic-voyages-jim-marrs-taps-into-terral-crofts-emergency-broadcasting-system-for-a-scoop-on-2012-earth-bound-objects/ (http://inceptionradionetwork.com/epic-voyages-jim-marrs-taps-into-terral-crofts-emergency-broadcasting-system-for-a-scoop-on-2012-earth-bound-objects/)
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