McDonald's restaurants are the very epitome of poor health, with their
McNuggets most notably containing chemicals used in breast implants and
silly putty. So why have the Olympic games officials adopted the
restaurant chain as their official restaurant of the Olympics?
Considering the Olympic games represent some of the most
conditioned athletes across the globe, it seems quite bizarre that the
face of the entire event would be that of Ronald McDonald.
With the media frenzy surrounding the Olympic games, it's easy to see
why McDonald's continues to be a major sponsor (dishing out cash for
over 35 years). A massive marketing opportunity is presented to the
company that involves aligning itself with a 'healthy' and fit event. In
fact, McDonald's is reaping the benefits
as even some of the most decorated Olympic finalists are chomping down
on their disease-linked frankenburgers. It was reported that 'the most
highly decorated Olympian' Michael Phelps gorged himself at McDonald's
after winning a gold medal at the Olympics.
Phelps and fellow gold medalist Ricky Berens reportedly
ate a toxic feast of two Quarter Pounders with cheese, one six-piece
McNugget (each of which contains 7 different ingredients to compose the
fake chicken 'meat'), a medium McFlurry, and two medium french fries.
Great news for McDonald's, bad news for viewers.
McDonald's fast food has been linked in scientific research to depression, with those who ate fast food 51 percent more likely to be depressed than those consuming very little or none of the food.
McDonald's has also been heavily criticized for including 'pink slime' into their products, which is essentially scrap meat drenched in ammonium hydroxide. And that's really not the worst of it.
Taking another look at the highly popular McNuggets, it's easy to see
why McDonald's food items contain some of the most concerning chemicals
in the entire food industry. The kind that athletes and viewers looking
to live a healthy lifestyle should avoid at all costs.
McNuggets contain a large list of ingredients, including autolyzed
yeast extract (similar to MSG), dimethylpolysiloxane (a type of silicone
being phased out as a breast implant substance due to safety concern),
safflower oil (often genetically modified), and of course
butylhydroquinone (derived from petroleum to 'preserve freshness').
So why is it that McDonald's is the official restaurant of the Olympics?
It seems that the corporation is desperate to attach to athletic events
in order to push itself as a health-conscious chain, when in reality it
is likely one of the largest contributors to the breeding of disease in
the United States.
But of course their executive likes to think differently. In a press release on how McDonald's 'cares about your health' that sought to piggyback on the success of the Olympic games, one exec states:
<blockquote class="tr_bq">Customers recognize McDonald's as a responsible, trusted brand that stays current with their lifestyles.</blockquote>Could
it be any more obvious just how little this company actually cares
about your health? McDonald's has no place being the official restaurant
of any event or organization supposedly representing the face of health
and fitness across the globe.
Source:-
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/08/why-is-mcdonalds-official-restaurant-of.html
Quote from: skywatcher on August 04, 2012, 08:17:08 AM
It was reported that 'the most highly decorated Olympian' Michael Phelps gorged himself at McDonald's after winning a gold medal at the Olympics.
Phelps and fellow gold medalist Ricky Berens reportedly ate a toxic feast of two Quarter Pounders with cheese, one six-piece McNugget (each of which contains 7 different ingredients to compose the fake chicken 'meat'), a medium McFlurry, and two medium french fries.
Great news for McDonald's, bad news for viewers.
So... what your saying is that after 4 years of hard training they won gold metals then had a junk food binge?
or are you saying they won the gold metal by gorging on McDonald's 'delicacies'?
::)
QuoteMcDonald's has also been heavily criticized for including 'pink slime' into their products, which is essentially scrap meat drenched in ammonium hydroxide. And that's really not the worst of it.
Whistleblowers: 70 percent of U.S. ground beef contains 'pink slime' (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=946.0)QuoteSo why is it that McDonald's is the official restaurant of the Olympics?
Money... it cost millions to host those games.. someone has to pay for it :D
QuoteIt seems that the corporation is desperate to attach to athletic events
No corporate sponsorship... no games... Who else can afford to pay those million dollar salaries the pros get?
Quotein order to push itself as a health-conscious chain, when in reality it
is likely one of the largest contributors to the breeding of disease in
the United States.
Likely? We deal in facts here... can you show me studies that prove this?
BTW are you a chemist? Someone sent me this list as the partial ingredients in a popular food... what do you think? Does this sound edible? (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/puke1.gif) Your input would be appreciated :D
Water 85.3 g
Protein 0.3 g
Lipids 0.4 g
Carbohydrate 11.8 g
Organic acids 0.6 g
Fiber 2.3 g
Minerals 0.3 g
Sodium 3 mg
Potassium 145 mg
Magnesium 6 mg
Calcium 7 mg
Manganese 65 µg
Iron 480 µg
Copper 100 µg
Zinc 120 µg
Phosphorus 12 mg
Chloride 2 mg
Fluoride 7 µg
Iodine 2 µg
Selenium 1-6 µg
Palmitic acid 50 mg
Stearic acid 10 mg
Oleic acid 20 mg
Linolic acid 100 mg
Linoleic acid 20 mg
Malic acid 550 mg
Citric acid 16 mg
Oxalic acid 500 µg
Salicylic acid 310 µg
Purines 3 mg
Biotin 1-8 µg
Starch 600 mg
Nicotinamide 300 µg
Pantothenic acid 100 µg
Folic acid 7 µg
Indeed both Skywatcher and Zorgon, we all know the dangers of eating Mcds on a regular basis, but the body has provisions for shedding the excess salts and chemicals in it when only eaten once in a while...the problem arises when someone is sensitive to a specific ingredient or has an excess of said ingredient already in their body, due to poor liver, pancreas or kidney operation.
What is the true culprit in Mcd's food is the amount of salts it has, and the relation of protein to fats to carbs in its structure.
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/foods-from-mcdonalds/6220/2
This page shows the relation of carbs to fat to protein and how these specific levels are the holy grail for Mcdonalds foods, to create an addiction for it within a human body which is balanced and operating correctly.
What we see is a caloric to fat ration of 5.9/3 first of all.
This presents the most unique opportunity for turning on the storage in ones fat cells, like gassin up an Escalade...it keeps filling with no apparent end.
Then we read the ratio of fat to carbs to protein....
34/47/24
This ratio shows a greater amount of fat, and carbs which effectively are the fuel, with the protein as the match.
This page from Merck a leading company in food research shows an important balance to keep healthy people healthy....among those ratios which Mcd's doesnt adhere to....
http://www.merckmanuals.com/home/disorders_of_nutrition/overview_of_nutrition/carbohydrates_proteins_and_fats.html
QuoteCarbohydrates, proteins, and fats supply 90% of the dry weight of the diet and 100% of its energy. All three provide energy (measured in calories), but the amount of energy in 1 gram (1/28 ounce) differs: 4 calories in a gram of carbohydrate or protein and 9 calories in a gram of fat. These nutrients also differ in how quickly they supply energy. Carbohydrates are the quickest, and fats are the slowest.
Carbohydrates, proteins, and fats are digested in the intestine, where they are broken down into their basic units: carbohydrates into sugars, proteins into amino acids, and fats into fatty acids and glycerol. The body uses these basic units to build substances it needs for growth, maintenance, and activity (including other carbohydrates, proteins, and fats).
Carbohydrates
Depending on the size of the molecule, carbohydrates may be simple or complex.
Simple carbohydrates: Various forms of sugar, such as glucose and sucrose (table sugar), are simple carbohydrates. They are small molecules, so they can be broken down and absorbed by the body quickly and are the quickest source of energy. They quickly increase the level of blood glucose (blood sugar). Fruits, dairy products, honey, and maple syrup contain large amounts of simple carbohydrates, which provide the sweet taste in most candies and cakes.
Complex carbohydrates: These carbohydrates are composed of long strings of simple carbohydrates. Because complex carbohydrates are larger molecules than simple carbohydrates, they must be broken down into simple carbohydrates before they can be absorbed. Thus, they tend to provide energy to the body more slowly than simple carbohydrates but still more quickly than protein or fat. Because they are digested more slowly than simple carbohydrates, they are less likely to be converted to fat. They also increase blood sugar levels more slowly and to lower levels than simple carbohydrates but for a longer time. Complex carbohydrates include starches and fibers, which occur in wheat products (such as breads and pastas), other grains (such as rye and corn), beans, and root vegetables (such as potatoes).
Carbohydrates may be refined or unrefined. Refined means that the food is highly processed. The fiber and bran, as well as many of the vitamins and minerals they contain, have been stripped away. Thus, the body processes these carbohydrates quickly, and they provide little nutrition although they contain about the same number of calories. Refined products are often enriched, meaning vitamins and minerals have been added back to increase their nutritional value. A diet high in simple or refined carbohydrates tends to increase the risk of obesity and diabetes.
If people consume more carbohydrates than they need at the time, the body stores some of these carbohydrates within cells (as glycogen) and converts the rest to fat. Glycogen is a complex carbohydrate that the body can easily and rapidly convert to energy. Glycogen is stored in the liver and the muscles. Muscles use glycogen for energy during periods of intense exercise. The amount of carbohydrates stored as glycogen can provide almost a day's worth of calories. A few other body tissues store carbohydrates as complex carbohydrates that cannot be used to provide energy.
Most authorities recommend that about 50 to 55% of total daily calories should consist of carbohydrates.
Where it all goes wrong is in the fat storage which starts a person on the road to obesity...when fat already, a person has a propensity to become fatter as they are already primed to absorb the specific parts of Mcd's food and also other processed foods.
Processed foods doesnt always mean ground fine and made into a powder, then reconstituted for feeding...it has a sinister alternative definition....
Processed foods for specific addictive tendencies and specific reactions to it within the human body. Food that is processed isnt done so as they would have us think, for efficient use in recipes, like flour and sugar crystals, it is done more for addictive qualities which keep us coming back for another Ho-Ho or little debbie...or that ubiquitous Big Mac..which is the crowning achievment of the Mcd's lab engineers for addictive eating behaviour.
Efficient food manufacturing brings more issues into the mix, and the way proteins, carbs and fat react when processed is why they use chemicals as stabilizing agents and such.
Having to use ammonium whatever is basically nature telling Mcd's the chicken paste shoundnt be fed to people and thats why it falls apart or degrades after freezing, is because it prcessed foods need to be stabilized to keep them appearing in shape and consistency as real foods...when sadly they are not.
Mcds doesnt listen, or care though, its all about keeping the fatties coming back.
The last thing here which Ill point out from a neutral standpoint is..the human mind. These companies are creating a product which involves millions of dollars of research and thousands of hours of testing to make it addictive, and our minds are our only weapon against the attack.
Use the mind as a tool and keep it sharp, and the fat and blubber will keep at bay. Allow the Mcd's labs to get a leg up on your brain, and its doomsday for the waistline everytime.
What goes in the face, shows on the body...and yes folks, research aside...thats a fact I can prove with my personal experience! :P
Cheers! From someone who did just this and has kept 55 lbs of flubber off for nearly a year now with zero demand for crappy foods especially Mcd's!
Dave
Quote from: zorgon on August 04, 2012, 11:06:52 AM
Water 85.3 g
Protein 0.3 g
Lipids 0.4 g
Carbohydrate 11.8 g
Organic acids 0.6 g
Fiber 2.3 g
Minerals 0.3 g
Sodium 3 mg
Potassium 145 mg
Magnesium 6 mg
Calcium 7 mg
Manganese 65 µg
Iron 480 µg
Copper 100 µg
Zinc 120 µg
Phosphorus 12 mg
Chloride 2 mg
Fluoride 7 µg
Iodine 2 µg
Selenium 1-6 µg
Palmitic acid 50 mg
Stearic acid 10 mg
Oleic acid 20 mg
Linolic acid 100 mg
Linoleic acid 20 mg
Malic acid 550 mg
Citric acid 16 mg
Oxalic acid 500 µg
Salicylic acid 310 µg
Purines 3 mg
Biotin 1-8 µg
Starch 600 mg
Nicotinamide 300 µg
Pantothenic acid 100 µg
Folic acid 7 µg
Calcium fluoride or sodium fluoride? That makes a BIG difference.
It's the same way that Heineken took over holland's international event, the 4 days marches >:(
And now the Dutch athletes have the 'Holland Heineken House' instead of the former 'Holland House'
The beer is brewed in 3 1/2 hours, using catalysts, then has colour & alcohol added to make it up to the European standard of 4%
Awful chemical crap, sold as beer.
There goes another great sporting event :(
Notice the one athlete was filmed in McDonalds after the event?
Probably took him 6 months to recover from that one..
Tip: drink more milk, it will make you fat but will remove toxins from your body...well, you can't have it all... 8)
Only drink raw milk from cows that have not been treated with rBST, antibiotics, etc. And check the radiation levels, too, before Ya drink.
Quote from: Littleenki on August 04, 2012, 03:26:38 PM
Cheers! From someone who did just this and has kept 55 lbs of flubber off for nearly a year now with zero demand for crappy foods especially Mcd's!
Dave
I too have zero demand for those American delicacies but a nice piece of ground steak on a toasted home made bun is an awesome burger
And yeah I am battling that 55 lbs of flubber myself, but its all from good food... just too much of it and sitting at this dang machine to many hours :P
Quote from: Amaterasu on August 04, 2012, 11:45:07 PM
Calcium fluoride or sodium fluoride? That makes a BIG difference.
Well its only a partial list... but it sounds YUMMY doesn't it?
::)
Quote from: Amaterasu on August 05, 2012, 01:41:17 AM
Only drink raw milk from cows that have not been treated with rBST, antibiotics, etc. And check the radiation levels, too, before Ya drink.
Raw milk (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/puke1.gif)
No thanks I will have mine pasteurized from reliable dairies that don't add all that other stuff :P
The only ill effect I have had from that on 60 years is I like my dairy products and since I get free cheese from the conventions I managed to store an extra 55 lbs of that flubber :P
Did you know that paranoia about what you eat will make you sicker than a dog?
Caution yes... but we are chemical factories :D
Quote from: zorgon on August 07, 2012, 10:27:44 PM
I too have zero demand for those American delicacies but a nice piece of ground steak on a toasted home made bun is an awesome burger
And yeah I am battling that 55 lbs of flubber myself, but its all from good food... just too much of it and sitting at this dang machine to many hours :P
Zorgon, I feel your pain, but if I whipped up a big plate of my Weinerschnitzel with spaetzle, all worries go out the window! ;D
Oh and how I love heavy cream, I make so many fantastic recipes with it, we use a pint a week, so thats an extra mile on the treadmill per tablespoon!Argh!
Cheese? well I have a cheese addiction, and have to avoid the counter at Messaros here in St Pete, who has the best cheese counter ever!
Its hard to drop the weight, but when you find the magic bullet stick with it, and itll fall off!
Off to make a salad now..Im trying to keep that 55 off!LOL!
;)
When ever I feel bad bout eating all of the local fresh food, I go to McDs and stuff 2 or 4 Double cheeseburgers down and I feel good for another month. Got to have that good old chemical burger to straighten things out. Some times I add a few for the freezer for later. Good old McDs burgers, the same around the world. Been eating them for more than 40 years.
A couple times a month is OK. Everyday would be a bit to much, they would lose their lust.
Deuem
If you feel the need for a McDonalds burger EVER again, read this and think again
http://youtu.be/mYyDXH1amic
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYyDXH1amic
or this is worse
http://youtu.be/uNWqkRItC2A
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uNWqkRItC2A#!
If you don't feel ill after watching the first video, you ain't listening!!!
The second video shows you what's better for your body.
Quote from: skywatcher on August 08, 2012, 10:37:10 AM
If you feel the need for a McDonalds burger EVER again, read this and think again
Aw thats nothing :D you should see what the Japanese are cooking up...
Warning do not watch while eating :P
Shit Burger: Japanese Researcher Creates Artificial Meat From Human Feceshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99l5iLOJgEk
Some dogs who are well fed eat that as well without the processing bit. :o
Well I have heard people say "This food tastes like shit"! Perhaps they were right. ;D
I will skip the Japanese Turd Burgers and stick with McDs once a month.
Pink slime all around!
Deuem
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on August 05, 2012, 12:25:58 AM
It's the same way that Heineken took over holland's international event, the 4 days marches >:(
And now the Dutch athletes have the 'Holland Heineken House' instead of the former 'Holland House'
The beer is brewed in 3 1/2 hours, using catalysts, then has colour & alcohol added to make it up to the European standard of 4%
Awful chemical crap, sold as beer.
There goes another great sporting event :(
Notice the one athlete was filmed in McDonalds after the event?
Probably took him 6 months to recover from that one..
Tip: drink more milk, it will make you fat but will remove toxins from your body...well, you can't have it all... 8)
Heinieken sucks, cut and dry, Luke, worst beer ever since the change. I liked it decades ago, but now it makes me ill to drink one...how can people drink that skunk piss? Argh!
Le
Quote from: deuem on August 08, 2012, 02:07:03 PM
I will skip the Japanese Turd Burgers and stick with McDs once a month.
Pink slime all around!
Deuem
Ever place a Mcd's cheeseburger patty on a shelf?
It never rots...never!
Robomeat is more like it, and pink slime, everytime some yuppy soccer mom feeds her kids those pathetic excuse for chicken nuggets, shes damaging countless organs and the pineal gland as well.
Oh, but we got some microwave mac and cheese to go with it, Johnny! MM MM Good chemically goodness!
YEah dont get me started on Kraft, thats another thread altogether!
Le
The question I always ask is how did McDonald's get to be called a Restaurant in the first place ??? :o
The answer fits both your question and mine...
MONEY MONEY MOOONNNEEEYYYY !!
C..
Quote from: Littleenki on August 08, 2012, 02:13:53 PM
Ever place a Mcd's cheeseburger patty on a shelf?
It never rots...never!
Le
I guess you can use it for survial food, no refrigeration needed, like the frys, last for years and years.
Maybe I won't rot either if I eat one?
How many billions sold so far? People like the taste!
I would bet that biting into an apple now a days might be just as bad. I just read yesterday that a cook in the states had to stop one of his meals that has lemon zest because of all the chemicals in the skin. Even if you get Organic, how do you really know what is in it unless you have it tested! Organic costs more. For what reason? Or is the reason just the name. I would bet that a really large percentage of the organic food is in name only or 1% of it is Organic. I wonder what the rules are or if there are any laws?
Can I get an organic McDs Cheeseburger? If I did, I bet the taste would be so bland that no one would buy it. Most people shop with their tounge and not their mind. Tastes good, buy it. Glows in the dark, extra bonus. Hey, I live in the land where they make fake salt so who knows what is real anymore.
Deuem
Quote from: Cosmic4life on August 08, 2012, 02:28:29 PM
The question I always ask is how did McDonald's get to be called a Restaurant in the first place ??? :o
The answer fits both your question and mine...
MONEY MONEY MOOONNNEEEYYYY !!
C..
I wonder how much of that money has come from parents of small children who dont have a clue to what theyre doing to their kids minds and bodies?
And how much damage has been created to further the doctors and pharma companies which benefit from Mcd's dangerous dishes?
Its a long pathetic money trail, with a bunch of stops along the way.
Marketing to kids is the core of a good campaign to separate parents from their money, as no parent wants to listen to little Johnny scream for a happy meal..they just lazily roll into Mcd's and get em one.
God forbid they pull out a bowl and teach the kid to eat some salad!
le
Quote from: zorgon on August 07, 2012, 10:29:08 PM
Well its only a partial list... but it sounds YUMMY doesn't it?
::)
I would have to have an idea of the concentration of each ingredient, the quality, and preparation to determine whether it is "YUMMY" sounding...
And whether that's calcium or sodium fluoride. [smile]
Quote from: zorgon on August 07, 2012, 10:33:17 PM
Raw milk (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/puke1.gif)
No thanks I will have mine pasteurized from reliable dairies that don't add all that other stuff :P
You are aware that Lactaid's "active ingredients" are the enzymes killed in the pasteurization process, n'est pas? Also, the homogenization process makes the milk far poorer for You, healthwise, producing a product that is unnatural and difficult to digest...?
QuoteThe only ill effect I have had from that on 60 years is I like my dairy products and since I get free cheese from the conventions I managed to store an extra 55 lbs of that flubber :P
Have You considered that it may be the processing of the product? I know that raw milk cheese does NOT cause My rheumatological condition to flare up; pasteurized milk cheese does...
QuoteDid you know that paranoia about what you eat will make you sicker than a dog?
Hardly "paranoid." Merely informed and making choices based on that information.
QuoteCaution yes... but we are chemical factories :D
Caution, of course, and surely We are chemical factories. But We did not have emzymeless, force-disbursed milk to process though most of Our development.
Quote from: Amaterasu on August 14, 2012, 05:38:02 PM
I would have to have an idea of the concentration of each ingredient, the quality, and preparation to determine whether it is "YUMMY" sounding...
And whether that's calcium or sodium fluoride. [smile]
Don't be silly.... take my word for it, its good for you.
I take no one Person's word. Not sure what is being described by that long list, z, but I am betting it is something many eat every day. Doesn't mean it's healthy - and doesn't mean it's not.
So... Just what includes that long list of ingredients - including some form of fluoride...?
Yay Olympics :D
My pet peeve is that the olympics is not a Redbull sponsered event running for two weeks full to the brim of insane people that are willing to go where no human went before ;D
Redbull could bring back Jousting for one example as its extreme and sure beats the equatrian events they have in the mc donald sponsered olympics which harks back to the Illuminati horse program :D
8)
Quote from: Amaterasu on August 14, 2012, 05:44:41 PM
You are aware that Lactaid's "active ingredients" are the enzymes killed in the pasteurization process, n'est pas? Also, the homogenization process makes the milk far poorer for You, healthwise, producing a product that is unnatural and difficult to digest...?
That really depends on who you listen to. Pasteurization has made it possible to feed BILLIONS. That would not be possible with raw milk
QuoteHave You considered that it may be the processing of the product? I know that raw milk cheese does NOT cause My rheumatological condition to flare up; pasteurized milk cheese does...
No I have not... its simply a factor of quantity :P I like my cheese... the older the better... get some nice mold going on it :D And ice cream and chocolate...
Besides COWs milk was intended for COWS not Hu-mons... it's what makes baby cows big and fat... and I don't eat cow raw either. I knew many farmers back in Canada who boiled their open milk before drinking it
QuoteCaution, of course, and surely We are chemical factories.
We are indeed... there is NOTHING we eat that isn't a mix of chemicals NOTHING, like that apple I gave the partial list of ingredients for :D
Our body can handle it all SO LONG AS we watch the quantity. Deuem's monthly McD will do no harm... eat 5 a day will kill you... but then too much water will kill you too.
Health is achieved simply by balance. Your body will have no disease and can easily cleanse itself of toxins if you ingest the right balance of chemicals :D
I have seen health food nuts :P that are skinny and anorexic because they are so worried about what they eat that they are literally killing themselves by the opposite extreme. My sister is one.
QuoteBut We did not have emzymeless, force-disbursed milk to process though most of Our development.
Are you aware that our lifespan has been steadily INCREASING due to what we do eat these days? You can decry modern science all you like but our average lifespan has been steadily increasing.
Maybe all that radiation IS good for you after all :P
Quote from: Amaterasu on August 14, 2012, 06:56:28 PM
So... Just what includes that long list of ingredients - including some form of fluoride...?
(http://www.aussieapples.com.au/media/images/galleries/apple-photo-gallery/Apples_4.jpg)
World average life expectancy...Neolithic 20
Bronze Age and Iron Age 26
Classical Greece 28
Classical Rome 28
Pre-Columbian North America 25-30
Medieval Islamic Caliphate 35+
Medieval Britain 30
Early Modern Britain 40
Early 20th Century 31
2010 world average 67.2
Now those figures are low because its the world average so includes the third world countries where health care and proper diet are not so good... ( a case in point)
Medieval Britain 1200-1300 A.D.: 43 years (to age 64)
1300-1400 A.D.: 34 years (to age 55) (due to the impact of the Black Death)
1400-1500 A.D.: 48 years (to age 69)
1500-1550 A.D.: 50 years (to age 71).
Here is one for all you "Ohhh the gubment NWO wants us all dead" types..
QuoteU.S. Life Expectancy at All-Time High
Life expectancy in the United States has been on the rise for a decade, increasing 1.4 years — from 76.5 years in 1997 to 77.9 in 2007, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The life expectancy data, compiled by the agency's National Center for Health Statistics, are based on nearly 90 percent of the death certificates filed in the United States.
Doctors say that not only is lifespan increasing, but more important, the "active" lifespan is increasing as well.
Overall, the United States death rate continues to drop. In 2007, there were 760.3 deaths per 100,000 population, down from the 2006 rate of 776.5. And 2,269 fewer people died in the United States in 2007 than 2006.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/19/us-life-expectancy-at-all-time-high/
QuoteThere are great variations in life expectancy between different parts of the world, mostly caused by differences in public health, medical care and diet. Much of the excess mortality (higher death rates) in poorer nations is due to war, starvation, and diseases (AIDS, Malaria, etc.). The impact of AIDS is particularly notable on life expectancy in many African countries; According to the UN[33] the life expectancy at birth for 2010–2015 (if HIV/AIDS did not exist) would have been:
70.7 years instead of 31.6 in Botswana
69.9 years instead of 41.5 in South Africa
70.5 years instead of 31.8 in Zimbabwe.
But the most important factor is this... look at the map below. The countries that eat McD's etc are doing a LOT better than the rest of the world :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/world_life_001.png)
Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2012, 07:21:32 PM
That really depends on who you listen to. Pasteurization has made it possible to feed BILLIONS. That would not be possible with raw milk
Not so. When raw milk is picked up by the milk truck, a sample from each is taken and tested when the truck comes in. If a given supplier provides tainted milk, that supplier has to pay for the whole load, which is then dumped. So... Why do We need pasteurization? Test the milk and move the good stuff on.
QuoteNo I have not... its simply a factor of quantity :P I like my cheese... the older the better... get some nice mold going on it :D And ice cream and chocolate...
[shrug] If You say so.
QuoteBesides COWs milk was intended for COWS not Hu-mons... it's what makes baby cows big and fat... and I don't eat cow raw either. I knew many farmers back in Canada who boiled their open milk before drinking it
Unless - and I am supposing here - We were genetically engineered, and Our domesicated animals were genetically engineered to provide for Us (as well as their young). A thought, and one that has a fair probability of being so, I estimate.
QuoteWe are indeed... there is NOTHING we eat that isn't a mix of chemicals NOTHING, like that apple I gave the partial list of ingredients for :D
Ah. Wonder about an organic apple... If it contains a fluoride, I bet We're talking calcium fluoride.
QuoteOur body can handle it all SO LONG AS we watch the quantity. Deuem's monthly McD will do no harm... eat 5 a day will kill you... but then too much water will kill you too.
I disagree. Deuem's monthly McDeath does a small amount of harm. Our bodies hanle it as best they can. The damage may not be immediately apparent - like an accumulation of a substance in the tissue - and over time that damage may become so great that it sickens or kills the body. The length of time varies, obviously, depending on the quantity and frequency of toxin ingestion.
QuoteHealth is achieved simply by balance. Your body will have no disease and can easily cleanse itself of toxins if you ingest the right balance of chemicals :D
Again, I disagree. There are things the body cannot eliminate. It is not a balance - like if I just eat one thing I can balance out that cyanide I nibbled on... It is an OPTIMAL set of ingredients that maintains health.
QuoteI have seen health food nuts :P that are skinny and anorexic because they are so worried about what they eat that they are literally killing themselves by the opposite extreme. My sister is one.
Yeah, there are some like that. And there are some People who eat when and whatever They want who are obese and dying of heart attacks... The point is, most People who seek the OPTIMAL diet for health, are quite healthy.
QuoteAre you aware that our lifespan has been steadily INCREASING due to what we do eat these days? You can decry modern science all you like but our average lifespan has been steadily increasing.
Oh, I love modern science - with old-fashioned food styles, styles that the organism "grew up" on. And We grew up on unpasteurized, unhomogenized milk, amongst other things.
QuoteMaybe all that radiation IS good for you after all :P
LOL! Sure, z. I recommend Ya go to Fukushima and bask in all that healthy stuff!
Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2012, 07:39:38 PM
World average life expectancy...
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That has more to do with hygiene and getting enough to eat. I bet You will find a correlation between good hygiene and locations of the Double Doors of Death (TM)...
Quote from: Amaterasu on August 14, 2012, 07:42:57 PM
Unless - and I am supposing here - We were genetically engineered, and Our domesicated animals were genetically engineered to provide for Us (as well as their young). A thought, and one that has a fair probability of being so, I estimate.
'genetically engineered" based on what? :P
QuoteAh. Wonder about an organic apple... If it contains a fluoride, I bet We're talking calcium fluoride.
Not sure I ever saw an inorganic apple :o
Oh wait... yeah there are some ceramic ones... probably not good for you
(http://cdn100.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/749/427/76/vintage-ceramic-apple-pot-jar-container-made-in-japan-c217.jpg)
QuoteI disagree.
figured you might :D
QuoteIt is not a balance - like if I just eat one thing I can balance out that cyanide I nibbled on...
yeah I LOVE my cyanide dose... lovely ALMOND flavor :D
"Bitter almonds may yield from 4–9 mg of hydrogen cyanide per almond"
QuoteApple seeds contain a cyanide compound.
When we think of dangers lurking in our food, we tend to concentrate on the threats posed by chemical additives or by improper and careless handling. Yet the truth is that we routinely come into contact with naturally-occurring poisons in a number of the fruits we ingest.
Apples are one such fruit: their pips (seeds) contain amygdalin, a cyanide and sugar compound that degrades into hydrogen cyanide (HCN) when metabolized. Cyanide itself is a poison that kills by denying blood the ability to carry oxygen and thereby causes its victims to die of asphyxiation.
Luckily for those fond of their Granny Smiths, the body can detoxify cyanide in small doses, and the number of apple seeds it takes to pack a lethal punch is therefore huge — even the most dedicated of apple eaters is extremely unlikely to ingest enough pips to cause any harm. Yet those who have heard apple seeds house a poison (usually remembered as arsenic, a quite different though equally deadly compound) cling to the frightening belief that swallowing a small number of pips spells instant death. We've had folks fret to us that ingesting as few as three apple seeds would do someone in, a "fact" which, if true, would mean each and every one of us was flirting with the grim reaper every time we made a grab for an apple
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp
QuoteA far greater natural source of cyanide is the cassava root, a vegetable favored by many in Africa. (Westerners know this plant best as tapioca.) Drying, soaking, and baking cassava roots renders its cyanide precursor, linamarin, harmless, but if that process is not carried out properly the cassava can remain poisonous.
QuoteYeah, there are some like that. And there are some People who eat when and whatever They want who are obese and dying of heart attacks... The point is, most People who seek the OPTIMAL diet for health, are quite healthy.
OPTIMAL being the operative word here. MOST people have neither the time nor the knowledge to create an OPTIMAL diet that is suited for THEIR individual needs. No two people are alike so giving generic advice can be dangerous.
Every time the case of meat eaters vs vegans comes up all the vegans are saying you can get PROTEIN from veggies so you don't need meat (or at least diary products)
What ALL those 'advisers' forget is AMINO ACIDS The body needs 22... we synthesize ( a healthy person) most of them. Of the 22 standard amino acids, 9 are called essential amino acids because the human body cannot synthesize them from other compounds at the level needed for normal growth, so they must be obtained from food. In addition, cysteine, taurine, tyrosine, and arginine are semiessential amino-acids in children, because the metabolic pathways that synthesize these amino acids are not fully developed. The amounts required also depend on the age and health of the individual, so it is hard to make general statements about the dietary requirement for some amino acids.
Now here is the problem... if you are missing ONE of those 9 in your diet, especially as a child still growing, your body will NOT compensate and grow properly or be in an OPTIMAL state of health.
This is an undisputed FACT. Now I am not going to go into whether or not you can get all 9 of these ESSENTIAL amino acids on a strict Vegan diet... without at LEAST having dairy includes in that diet...
But I will ask this How many vegans out there KNOW that they are getting these ESSENTIAL amino acids and thus are healthy?
I have seen some Vegan advise that is utterly frightening...
Well here is one vegan that has a story to tell... a little bit talkative... but then that is the effect of the nervous condition too ;)
My Vitamin B12 Deficiency & Change of Diet!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiHaW1Zs3VY
Solutions to health are not "One rule fits all" You need to work with a nutritinist that can select what is right for YOU as an individual
All disease is a function of LACK of some chemical in your body. identify that lacking chemical and you will cure the disease
(this will no longer work once a condition has cause actual permanent damage, but can still help)
A doctor prescribing medicine for a 100 lb female at the same dose as a 200 lb male is just utter stupidity :P
Works the same as food and nutrition... it depends on body type, sex and age, and activity level, as towhat you need.
Quote from: Amaterasu on August 14, 2012, 07:46:37 PM
That has more to do with hygiene and getting enough to eat. I bet You will find a correlation between good hygiene and locations of the Double Doors of Death (TM)...
Even so it negates the supposition that the NWO is out to wipe us out slowly... because the stats show the exact opposite :D
And you yourself say there is abundance and no issue with too many people on this old abused rock :D
QuoteLOL! Sure, z. I recommend Ya go to Fukushima and bask in all that healthy stuff!
See this is what I am getting at....
Its a matter of degree... water is an essential need but sticking my head under water can prove fatal very quickly.
We will adapt :P
Fukushima disaster caused mutant butterflies: scientists(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/pickinonme.gif)
Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2012, 08:39:16 PM
'genetically engineered" based on what? :P
Whatever the ASA-RRR had in mind. [smile]
QuoteNot sure I ever saw an inorganic apple :o
Oh wait... yeah there are some ceramic ones... probably not good for you
::) I'm guessing You know what I mean here, z. You're just being...how to say this diplomatically...? A snotface? [grin] Ok. Not so diplomatic. LOL!
Quoteyeah I LOVE my cyanide dose... lovely ALMOND flavor :D
"Bitter almonds may yield from 4–9 mg of hydrogen cyanide per almond"
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp
Yes, but I was speaking of pure cyanide. And You knew that too.
QuoteOPTIMAL being the operative word here. MOST people have neither the time nor the knowledge to create an OPTIMAL diet that is suited for THEIR individual needs. No two people are alike so giving generic advice can be dangerous.
Fine, but the point is that there are general guidelines. No person can be healthy if They have zero protein in Their diet. E T C . We can approach optimal with a general Human guideline.
QuoteEvery time the case of meat eaters vs vegans comes up all the vegans are saying you can get PROTEIN from veggies so you don't need meat (or at least diary products)
What ALL those 'advisers' forget is AMINO ACIDS The body needs 22... we synthesize ( a healthy person) most of them. Of the 22 standard amino acids, 9 are called essential amino acids because the human body cannot synthesize them from other compounds at the level needed for normal growth, so they must be obtained from food. In addition, cysteine, taurine, tyrosine, and arginine are semiessential amino-acids in children, because the metabolic pathways that synthesize these amino acids are not fully developed. The amounts required also depend on the age and health of the individual, so it is hard to make general statements about the dietary requirement for some amino acids.
Now here is the problem... if you are missing ONE of those 9 in your diet, especially as a child still growing, your body will NOT compensate and grow properly or be in an OPTIMAL state of health.
I am fully aware, yes. But there are vegetable sources with complete protein... Hemp seed, for one...
QuoteThis is an undisputed FACT. Now I am not going to go into whether or not you can get all 9 of these ESSENTIAL amino acids on a strict Vegan diet... without at LEAST having dairy includes in that diet...
But I will ask this How many vegans out there KNOW that they are getting these ESSENTIAL amino acids and thus are healthy?
Likely those who have researched things like hemp seed, quinoa and other sources of a complete protein and ensure Their diets include them. My sister is vegan and has been for decades. She appears to be quite healthy. Not palid, emaciated, sickly, etc. at all. But then She did Her homework.
QuoteSolutions to health are not "One rule fits all" You need to work with a nutritinist that can select what is right for YOU as an individual
Yes, You can fine-tune the general Human guidelines for Individuals.
QuoteAll disease is a function of LACK of some chemical in your body. identify that lacking chemical and you will cure the disease
Really? You think cancer from a hot particle is curable (avoidable) with the right chemical (whatever it might be)? What is Your evidence for this statement?
Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2012, 08:42:10 PM
Even so it negates the supposition that the NWO is out to wipe us out slowly... because the stats show the exact opposite :D
And you yourself say there is abundance and no issue with too many people on this old abused rock :D
Yes, there is. We just have a distribution problem. Mainly constricted - make that 100% constricted - by money issues. Distributing food by profit and not need is a primary one.
But it does NOT negate "the supposition that the NWO is out to wipe us out slowly" - because while They are trying to secretly put Their plans into action, We are finding ways to extend life - by avoiding the things They use, for example.
Lets say for the moment that the distribution problem is not the food, it is the people. Why in the world would people move too or live in places where there is no food? They do it all the time and then the world has to reach out and feed them. Don't feed them, move them. I can understand a drought situation on an area that usually gives crops. Ok, feed them. But why is it that for thousands of years there are still people living in places where food does not grow. I don't understand that! I would do anything to get my kids out of there so they could have a better life, not just raise more to die. Even if it took my life, I would get them out. No matter what!
Take all that time they use making new kids and start walking to a better place. Animals do it all the time, migrate or die. There is plenty of food, just too many people living in stupid places! WHY?