Well, woop didoo, the spacecraft curiosity is supposed to land there soon and NASA spokesman says they have an A1 team on this so it should be successful.
In the meantime, can most ordinary citizens get to go to the doctor or emergency if they need to, can they afford it, let alone have housing etc.
If they spent less on bloody travelling somewhere out in space and started looking after their own citizens maybe the US public would be better off.
How much money do they spend on these type of things; billions, >:(
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/08/05/Anxiety_over_Hollywood_Mars_landing_779960.html
What about your Australian expenditures on rockets? :P
(http://www.aerospaceguide.net/rocket_pics/k-1.jpg)
Kistler Aerospace - K-1 Launch Vehicle
http://www.aerospaceguide.net/k-1.html
Woomera Launch Site
http://www.aerospaceguide.net/woomeralaunchsite.html
(http://www.aerospaceguide.net/rocket_pics/woomera.gif)
She whom lives in glass house... :P
I say we send all these pollies up there and get rid of them.
The thing is Zorg, we can go to emergency and not pay for treatment.
And this is where your hard earned tax dollars go to - up in the air.
(http://www.navydep.com/forums/images/smilies/Your%20point%20is.gif)
Quote from: zorgon on August 05, 2012, 10:10:53 AM
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That's what I am saying Zorg, what is the bloody point; when there is a lot more that can be done with the billions down here. ::) :P
Quote from: biggles on August 05, 2012, 10:15:47 AM
That's what I am saying Zorg, what is the bloody point; when there is a lot more that can be done with the billions down here. ::) :P
Well too late to worry about that little bit of money... its almost there now. Rather go after the military and tell them to take the weekend off... save many many billions that way :D
A good video showing the Science and engineering and details of the expected landing for curiosity...This shows some of what Zorgons threads images of the landing but in video form.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/earth-mars-rover-curiosity-landed-205422579.html
Watch it LIVE Here
NASA TV Schedule
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/schedule.html
Quote from: astr0144 on August 05, 2012, 05:59:02 PM
A good video showing the Science and engineering and details of the expected landing for curiosity...
I hate Yahoo news... they never leave the reports on long enough to see them That video is already not available
But NASA has one
Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity Rover Animation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4boyXQuUIw
Quote from: biggles on August 05, 2012, 08:14:04 AM
I say we send all these pollies up there and get rid of them.
The thing is Zorg, we can go to emergency and not pay for treatment.
Space Industry must be fueled with money, but ye're right out the: rovers are such a waste of Time & money. First & Foremost, we must reduce payload's cost on the LEO. :)
Hi Zorgon,
I thought initially that the yahoo video disappearance was maybe a fault of my browser or something...
I THINK that may have been the same video that they posted as your NASA one..but not as long..
Its remarkable how they produced it , the effects a great !
Not long to the big attempted landing...
Hope all goes well and look forward to seeing What they may find !
==============
I hate Yahoo news... they never leave the reports on long enough to see them That video is already not available
But NASA has one
Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity Rover Animation
I hate to say this,but I'm excited about this landing.
Call me a nasa nerd or what ever,I don't care.
As a kid growing up on the south eastern coast of the US,I got up early many times to see the rockets launch from the cape.
I watched skylab cross my view in the sky before it plunged.
I have followed the program,not as closely as some on here,and I have enjoyed so far.
They have they're farts and follies at times,...........
Just see landing of Curiosity on Mars !
Hope that'll give us some magnific pics ...
But anyway, Bravo, Bravissimo ! Vive l' Amérique et les Americains ! :)
You are the best !
Guerande
A photo from Curiosity. Looks like a castle on the horizon..yeah, probably just a little dirt on the lens...
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh605/subatomic_dude/2012-08-06T054853Z_1_CBRE8750G5K00_RTROPTP_2_USA-MARS.jpg)
Their already there and colonizing via the bloody jump room, sheesh.
Quote from: biggles on August 06, 2012, 07:39:45 AM
Their already there and colonizing via the bloody jump room, sheesh.
Oh yeah? Who told you that :P
Quote from: biggles on August 06, 2012, 07:39:45 AM
Their already there and colonizing via the bloody jump room, sheesh.
Cool! They got one of these!
(http://www.allfunjump.com/jumper-rentals/nemo.jpg)
Biggles is right!
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh605/subatomic_dude/2012-08-06T054853Z_1_CBRE8750G5K00_RTROPTP_2_USA-MARS3.jpg)
Touched down.....Wonder if they will spot Obama !
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/mars-rover-curiosity-nears-break-landing-attempt-045821529.html
http://news.yahoo.com/mars-rover-curiosity-nears-break-landing-attempt-002742981.html
Here's the real footage of the landing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8DBt2Ryqi4
Touched down...and the next false flag begins...(ominous doom and gloom music insert here)
LE
Quote from: Littleenki on August 06, 2012, 05:15:23 PM
Touched down...and the next false flag begins...(ominous doom and gloom music insert here)
LE
Dave did you see that lame ass picture they were all backslapping each other over ,I stayed up late for that? whatta f$#ging joke!!
cripes , lets go fishing
Quote from: hoss58 on August 06, 2012, 05:35:54 PM
Dave did you see that lame ass picture they were all backslapping each other over ,I stayed up late for that? whatta f$#ging joke!!
I havent seen any of the propoganda...I mean pictures from the landing, but let me guess, they all look like the same old sh!t weve been fed. I hope they dont mess up the scene, cause its quite a crime, eh? 8)
Cheers!
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/673559main_msl5_946-710.jpg)
Somebody needs to turn the sun down on the set.
Hmmm, looks like it landed on a sugar cookie...very suspect indeed!
And is that a toaster with some parts added to it, or a real spacecraft?
Oh NASA, you have impressed me now... :P
Le
Taking up a collection to send NASA some better camera.
These are only $1.99 but take much better pictures
(http://www4.images.coolspotters.com/photos/20651/kodak-disposable-camera-profile.jpg)
Quote from: zorgon on August 06, 2012, 07:38:23 PM
Taking up a collection to send NASA some better camera.
These are only $1.99 but take much better pictures
(http://www4.images.coolspotters.com/photos/20651/kodak-disposable-camera-profile.jpg)
No kidding, a multi-billion dollar boondoggle and we get crappy peephole picture? They don't want us to see the elite sucking down cocktails at Club Mars while their agenda destroys this planet.
...and Vril... LOL!!! Turn down the sun... LMAO! ;D
I like the title of the NAZA article "NASA's New Mars Rover Sends Higher-Resolution Image". Higher-Resolution, umm no? http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20120806.html
NAZA asks the question, where does gravel come from? I am pretty sure there is an answer (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+does+gravel+come+from) for that.
That gravel is all they could afford with the budget cuts, rocks and other large debris are just to costly to move around a sound stage.
Curious if Curiousity has a broom attachment.. to clean up ya know.
Le
Quote from: zorgon on August 06, 2012, 07:55:15 AM
Oh yeah? Who told you that :P
Dan Burich, via Camelot interview. :P
Or was that the looking glass tech :-\
NASA Lands Car-Size Rover Beside Martian Mountain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnG-rFFpP8A
Quote from: Littleenki on August 06, 2012, 08:10:55 PM
That gravel is all they could afford with the budget cuts, rocks and other large debris are just to costly to move around a sound stage.
Curious if Curiousity has a broom attachment.. to clean up ya know.
Le
NASA Mars Yard has more than Gravel :P
(http://www.fastcocreate.com/multisite_files/cocreate/imagecache/slideshow-large/slides/scarecrow-1.JPG)
Rovers in the JPL Mars Yardhttp://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/interactives/marsyard/
Quote from: zorgon on August 06, 2012, 07:38:23 PM
Taking up a collection to send NASA some better camera.
These are only $1.99 but take much better pictures
(http://www4.images.coolspotters.com/photos/20651/kodak-disposable-camera-profile.jpg)
Yeah , and they are in color also, a real step in the right direction ::)
Quote from: hoss58 on August 06, 2012, 05:35:54 PM
Dave did you see that lame ass picture they were all backslapping each other over ,I stayed up late for that? whatta f$#ging joke!!
Why? Because it was a bad photo?
For what it was needed it was enough.
Quote from: vril on August 06, 2012, 08:08:24 PM
I like the title of the NAZA article "NASA's New Mars Rover Sends Higher-Resolution Image". Higher-Resolution, umm no? http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/news/msl20120806.html
Yes, higher resolution, as in "higher than the first one".
Being a 512 x 512 photo it has twice the resolution of a 256 x 256 images, like the one that was the first to be sent.
Quote from: hoss58 on August 06, 2012, 10:48:00 PM
Yeah , and they are in color also, a real step in the right direction ::)
Curiosity has colour cameras (1600 x 1200 pixels) with 10 frames per second, 1280 x 720 video capabilities, so I guess my discussions with zorgon about "true colour" ar over. ;D
YIPEEEEE
Now maybe we can see some more of that GREEN FOG :P
And I can get back to serious rock hunting
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Spirit_Sol_728_Rocks/Sol_740_2P192056188RADANMGP2569L257C1.JPG)
And can get some 'Real Color" pictures of all that debris up there :P
NASA = Cosmic Litterbugs
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45keith_laney/04images/Mars/Opportunity/1P157306081EFF40A3P2578L4M1notaspring.jpg)
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120806051228-mars-landing-parachute-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
NASA's Curiosity rover and its parachute were spotted by NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter as Curiosity descended to the surface on Sunday.
They're getting better, here's another one...
The newest robotic resident of Mars, Curiosity, has sent a spectacular image of its main scientific target, Mt. Sharp, a three-mile-high mountain in the center of Gale crater.
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2012/08/mt-sharp-first-look.jpg)
Taken with the probe's front Hazard-Avoidance cameras (Hazcams), the high-resolution image also shows the rover's shadow in the foreground and dark bands of dunes. After a flawless descent sequence, Curiosity landed a little less than four miles from the mountain. Within the next few days, the rover will start to move, sampling rocks and soil on its way to Mt. Sharp and slowly traveling up its side over the next two years. No one is quite sure how the mountain formed, though it appears to be the result of sediment layers laid down over time that then partially eroded away.
Curiosity's Hazcams are eight cameras placed in sets of two on the front and back of the rover that point at the ground and help the rover avoid large objects that it might run in to. They have a 1-megapixel resolution and shoot in black and white. This image has been linearized to remove the distorted appearance that results from the camera's fish-eye lens.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/08/curiositys-mt-sharp/
I know this is a dumb question, but its taking samples up there...it is able to come back down here isn't?
No it analyses the samples on board and sends the data back to us. Its not coming back
:)Ok so when do we see color pictures of the sky ? or does the camera not rotate up that far ? I have a feeling we will never see color pics of the sky . These b/w pics of the place are ok but how about looking up a little ? I am just saying .
Quote from: hoss58 on August 08, 2012, 03:58:45 AM
or does the camera not rotate up that far ?
That camera does not move, as far as I know. It's one of the 8 hazard avoidance cameras, a left and right pair for each corner of the rover.
The cameras are activated in sequence, starting by the hazard avoidance cameras (they were activated as soon as Curiosity landed), then it was the Chemistry Camera. On the following sol they activated the Navigation Cameras and the Mars Hand Lens Imager. Today we have more photos from the Navigation cameras, so I guess that maybe tomorrow or the day after we will get some photos from the Mast Cameras, where the most versatile cameras are. :)
Edited to add a photo from a navcam.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/NLA_397681372EDR_F0020000AUT_04096M_.jpg)
Is that dust or mist near the mountain?
Dust or mist? or something else? Plasma perhaps, either way doesnt that mean a sustantial atmosphere?
Le
:P ENJOY!!
(http://www.alicesastroinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/4960942_700b.jpg)
Not funny. :(
(and bad scale)
Quote from: hoss58 on August 08, 2012, 03:58:45 AM
:)Ok so when do we see color pictures of the sky ?
Several years ago :P
Twilight on a Cloudy Day - Pathfinder(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars/228523888_4078677bbd.jpg)
Image Credit NASA - This true color image was taken in the twilight by the rover Pathfinder on Mars in August 1997. The clouds are of the same type as those discovered by SPICAM at a much higher altitude.QuoteI have a feeling we will never see color pics of the sky
A Bright Clear and Sunny Day
Spirit :: Panorama Camera :: Sol 1508 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Spirit_Sol_1505/Sol_1508_Raw_2P260233647EFFAY00P2289L234567M1.JPG)
A Bright Clear and Sunny Day
Spirit :: Panorama Camera :: Sol 1515 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Spirit_Sol_1505/Sol_1515_Raw_2P260856830EFFAY00P2292L234567M1.JPG)
A Bright Clear and Sunny Day
Spirit :: Panorama Camera :: Sol 1526 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Spirit_Sol_1505/Sol_1526_Raw_2P261833484EFFAY00P2298L234567M1.JPG)
The bright sunshine reflecting off the Rover
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Spirit_Sol_1505/Sol_1507_Raw_2P260146399EFFAY00P2288L234567M1.JPG)
Sulfur rich soil dragged up by Spirits broken wheel....
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Spirit_Sol_788/Sol_790_2P196495704RADAQB6P2531L234567C1.JPG)
This image shows the strikingly bright tone and large extent of the materials uncovered by NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit. (NASA/JPL-Caltech/Cornell) Sulphur-rich soil on Mars puzzles scientists (http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2007/03/15/science-spirit.html)QuoteThe discovery of Martian soil containing high quantities of sulphur and traces of water has sparked new questions about activity beneath the planet's surface.
Scientists are puzzling over the contents of the bright white and yellow soil, first discovered after Mars rover Spirit churned it up while struggling to cross a soft patch of soil in the Columbia Hills region nearly a year ago.
The material consists of sulphate salts associated with iron and likely calcium, substances not expected to be found on the planet's surface.
Some scientists have speculated the materials might have been deposited in ancient times by liquid water on what is now thought to be a dry planet. However, Ray Arvidson, the deputy principal investigator for NASA's twin Mars rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, said that is only one possible explanation.
Originally posted image from Viking PIA00571
(http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA00571_modest.jpg)
Same image posted in Wikipedia Article
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Mars_Viking_21i093.png)
This high-resolution color photo of the surface of Mars was taken by Viking 2 Lander at its Utopia Planitia. It shows a thin coating of water ice on the rocks and soil. Scientists believe dust particles in the atmosphere pick up bits of solid water and frozen carbon dioxide, which causes the dust particles to sink. Warmed by the Sun, the carbon dioxide evaporates and returns to the atmosphere, leaving behind the water and dust. The ice is extremely thin, perhaps no more than one-thousandth of an inch thick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Mars/Selected_picture/December_2008
So which is real?
Well NASA recently published more Viking images in a publication... here is one of those with the NASA credits and description straight copied...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars5/Viking_1/sir3lv5.jpg)
Quote from: Littleenki on August 08, 2012, 02:27:09 PM
Dust or mist? or something else? Plasma perhaps, either way doesnt that mean a sustantial atmosphere?
Who said Mars has no atmosphere?
::)
Springtime on Mars (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Weather/mars-2.jpg)
Credit: Philip James (University of Toledo), Steven Lee (University of Colorado), NASA
This NASA Hubble Space Telescope view of the planet Mars is the clearest picture ever taken from Earth, surpassed only by close-up shots sent back by visiting space probes. The picture was taken on February 25, 1995, when Mars was at a distance of approximately 65 million miles (103 million km) from Earth. Recent Mars and Earth Dust Storms Compared(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Weather/mars_and_earth_storms_a.jpg)
QuoteIn this figure, we compare a recent dust storm on Mars with one that occurred earlier this year on Earth. The top image shows a martian north polar dust storm observed on 29 August 2000. This image is part of the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) daily global map--a low resolution, two-color view of Mars acquired from pole to pole every orbit. The storm is moving as a front, outward from a central "jet," and marginal "vortices" can be seen. In this image it extends about 900 km (560 mi) out from the north polar seasonal frost cap. The region on the right side of the Mars picture includes the north pole. The bottom image shows a terrestrial dust storm, seen in a SeaWiFS image, acquired on 26 February 2000. This storm exends about 1800 km (1100 mi) off the coast of northwest Africa near the Earth's equator. Both images are shown at the same scale; 4 km (2.5 mi) per pixel.
Image Source: MGS MOC Release No. MOC2-249 (http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/9_12_00_dust_storm/), 12 September 2000Hmmm I think I will do a Martian Weather thread :D
:-[ ooops , well let me see if I can get my foot out the way so I can type!! I was talking about the Curiosity's camera's . I didn't mean that there were not any at all "Z" :P. I am just skeptical of Nasa . It took me a long time to accept that the moon landings that I saw as a kid were maybe not what I thought they were . I was a big fan of space travel and the moon in particular.
Zorgon, thats fascinating, and a thread for Martian Weather would be excellent as Im quite fond of following Earth weather patterns, so hey, why not add a planet in there!
Cheers!
The conspiracy theories begin: What was the mystery blotch that appears on Mars rover photo - but disappears two hours later?
Conspiracy theorists have worked themselves up into a lather over a mysterious blotch visible in the first black and white photographs taken from NASA's new Curiosity rover as it landed on Mars.
The faint but distinctive dot which can be seen on the horizon of the Red Planet was taken by a device on the $2.5 billion robot called its Hazcam and relayed by the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter back to Earth.
However, two hours later when the satellite made another pass over Curiosity, the rover sent another batch of images that revealed that the blotch had eerily disappeared.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/09/article-2185737-14745531000005DC-101_636x382.jpg)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185737/Internet-conspiracy-theories-begin-mystery-blotch-appears-Mars-rover-photo--disappears-hours-later.html
Is it just me or is the horizon flatter where the anomaly used to be? ???
100 percent right, Cosmo, I noticed the flatter appearance too...and the hanky panky hokey pokey begins!LOL!
Dave
Quote from: hoss58 on August 09, 2012, 04:02:27 AM
:-[ ooops , well let me see if I can get my foot out the way so I can type!! I was talking about the Curiosity's camera's . I didn't mean that there were not any at all "Z" :P. I am just skeptical of Nasa . It took me a long time to accept that the moon landings that I saw as a kid were maybe not what I thought they were . I am a big fan of space travel and the moon in particular.
Upon reading new information from a reliable source , I take it all back . Mars pictures are cool. I loved Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles as a kid. I grew up in the next town from his "Green Town".
So bring on the color photos ;D
Quote from: Littleenki on August 09, 2012, 03:22:37 PM
100 percent right, Cosmo, I noticed the flatter appearance too...and the hanky panky hokey pokey begins!LOL!
Dave
OMG!! I just posted a retraction now I have to retract that ,jeeez! !! I guess I have to stay glued to the computer to keep up , sigh!! Nasa........... (shakes head)
2.5billion really not alot of money.that would pay for 2500 heart transplants?maybe.but if you layoff a million battleweary soldiers.instant civil war.in afganistan and in the usa.plus unemployment goes up.then layoff the private military contract employees.great depression.even tesla dug ditches when times got hard.the last thing this country needs is a bunch of brainwashed gungho tards with pthd running lose and mad at the gov.
Updates:
Where Will Curiosity Go First? (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2230.msg35121#msg35121)This article mentions the high res Mast cam..
QuoteThe mast also sports a high-resolution camera called Mastcam, which has already begun observing and photographing the rover's surroundings.
So... its already taking pictures but we can't see them yet...
Hmmm interesting... must be 'editing delay' in case that critter sees something it shouldn't :P
Curiosity Zaps First Martian Rock (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2230.msg35122#msg35122)Well here is the first miserable picture of a zapped rock :D
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/678094main_pia16075_946.jpg) (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/678094main_pia16075_946.jpg)
How EXCITING!!!! They zapped a pebble LMAO
i got a chance to see an undoctored video on abc last night.they showed it right before comercial.when they came back,they didnt show it again.nasa said the shiny dots all over the ground were bad pixels.these dots didnt move when the camera moved.it was video of entry and landing.them shiny dots were all over the place.
Congratulations NASA
You found the most BORING spot you possibly could have on Mars
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681382main_pia16110-full_full.jpg) (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681382main_pia16110-full_full.jpg)
Not even an interesting rock larger than a pebble to look at..
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/680953main_pia16100-full_full.jpg) (//http://)
At least they got rid of that Red Sky they been trying to sell :P
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681054main_pia16105-full_full.jpg) (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681054main_pia16105-full_full.jpg)
But those hills look just like home here in Nevada :D
NASA says.... MARS
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/605484main_PIA15092-full_full.jpg)
Zorgon says... Nevada :P
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/010/cache/limestone-swirls_1043_600x450.jpg)
Quote from: zorgon on August 30, 2012, 11:56:27 PM
At least they got rid of that Red Sky they been trying to sell :P
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681054main_pia16105-full_full.jpg) (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/681054main_pia16105-full_full.jpg)
I still prefer my versions. :)
(click for full size)
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/Marte227-1.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/Marte227.jpg)
im with you on that one zorgon.can somebody go over to an observatory and pull up the rover?
Quote from: ArMaP on August 31, 2012, 12:51:31 AM
I still prefer my versions. :)
Sorry your Basalt is a little too blue :P
But I like the CRITTER you found :D
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/mars_critter_01.png)