A bit of basic history on these calculations.
I discovered these calculations a number of years ago in the back of document I had gotten from Linda Brown, for my own personal use and possession. The main document was entitled "Notes on Market Bahavior," so I have traditionally labeled the calculations the "Stock Market Report."
These calculations were, in part, the information shared with Mikado (Ron), Trickfox (Raymond) and another man (aka Radomir) in a meeting in Las Vegas several years ago (aka known as the Vanilla Conference), during which I shared these calculations, my own personal ongoing research on room-temperature superconductors and a working green thumb device (another of TTB's inventions in which a ionized plant was used to reduce smoke and particulate pollution in rooms) under the protection of a nondisclosure agreement.
Prior to the meeting, I was "told," through Linda Brown, that Mr. Twigsnapper (a forum pseudonym, whose IP was later traced back, by Mikado, to Linda Brown's same IP address) that I should share whatever I was comfortable showing. The Las Vegas meeting was an attempt to bring a group of people together under the umbrella of Qualight LLC.
Unfortunately, the plan unraveled almost immediately after its inception - the eventual blowback of which you all have witnessed between Linda Brown and Mikado (Ron) on this forum. At the first of this year (2012), I gave up my webmaster position and access to the Brown forums, transferred my TTB website (originally housed at Soteria.com and later Qualight.com) to the control of Linda Brown and severed all of my previous associations, with the exception of Mark Bean (an awesome Tesla researcher and TF2 player).
These calculations represent a part of several documents that appear to provide a general outline for the construction of a successful gravitator and break down the the basic math behind the plate density and ratio spacing of TTB's gravitator. They are the calculations to which Mikado has referred.
The first part is TTB's journals, primarily available on line,
These Beau Kitselman calculations represent the second part, and
The third part is a document entitled, "The Structure of Space II," which I will get around to digging up eventually, as we are finishing our basement and everything is packed away.
It is my contention that if there is any real science behind the gravitator and any coupling effect between electrical and gravitational fields, that this document will be better served here, among people who actually are doing research.
Please be discrete. I have separated myself from my past associations and wish it to remain that way. You'll have to forgive me if I'm not available for Q&A.
Best of luck,
Andy
Thanks a million for that, Andy.
The information is useful, and we will be discreet with it, won't we guys?
'The Inventors' is a very small select group within Pegasus.
We are working on all aspects of gravity, and IMO the EG principle has definitely been proven, now we just have to improve upon it.
Now you all know the upshot of the Linda/Mikado story, let's get down to some serious analysis here, i will have a look at those calculations & see if i can understand any of it ???
The parallel plate idea is an interesting option, which Dave was already working on (how's it going, Dave?) and i am also going to look into it, maybe using stacked barium wafers etc.
And dissimilar materials for the electrodes, good call.
I initially had a small, massive electrode (Tantalum) and a large but lighter electrode (aluminium) but maybe i should reverse the 2...... ::)
First the power supply, i am still exploring HF pulsed circuits to run an RF Tesla coil. For a really sharp pulse, we would need Marx generators, but they need time to recharge (unless you drive them at near-breakdown voltage, something i'm also looking into), once i've got that done, i can experiment further with dielectrics.
Your parallel-but-lower-voltage idea is a good one, Andy, but i will still need some pretty high voltages to get the sharp field gradient i need (as well as shaping the dielectrics) to allow for the lower K value.
Maybe parallel plates is the way to go, i can easily compare them to cones at just 25,000 volts...
If i can get an RF sawtooth at 10Mhz or so i will be happy 8)
Hey, Andy! Great to hear from you, especially on such a helpful note!
The math for me is a quagmire of numbers and such, which Ill never understand, but from an engineering aspect, the effort does look rather conclusive as to the best spacing and thicknesses of all pieces involved.
Also, the chart of appropriate metals shows me I should have waited a bit, until receiving the tungsten foil, instead of HD aluminum foil in my first gravitator...a three inch long affair with a flexible dielctric made from silicone bonding agent and magnetite powder. If I pulse it with a auto coil, it twitches quite handily, and will actually swing well if I hit it with repeated pulses from said coil...around 40kv or so.
Air core is nice to consider, but I feel that a well chosen dielecrtric solid will achiave the best performance, and that solid can be pretty expensive to engineer, so we must be careful with it's choosing.
I see where the graph paper shows that particular non uniform layout for the plates as well, and when I built my little flex gravitator I made sure to alternate the dielectrics and the plates thickness wise with every layer.
So, shall we build one according to this math?
I dont have a reliable HVPS right now, except for my coil pulser which isnt really supplying DC, just pulses of such, so whoever goes for it, Luke Im guessing it will be you..keep us informed!
Still thinking about that FJG, Andy, it hasnt left my bench yet...hopefully the money will roll in this season and it can be completed in prototype level.
Great post, Andy, and good luck with that basement..or mancave.. whatever you may call it!LOL!
Cheers!
Dave
Thanks, guys.
I got into the plastic dielectrics instead of the ceramic just because of the high voltages that would be required for the ceramics. I tried making my own paper dielectric with embedded titanates, but it was too sloppy. There are many plastic films out there (particularly in the solar field) that have relatively high Ks and voltage breakdown ratings.
What I ended up doing was buying a clipper press (used for horse leatherwork) and a custom cut (like a cookie cutter) and pressed out my electrodes and dielectric sheets. The thin sheets of plastic and metal foil were easier also because I was able to buy, or mix the correct thicknesses for the ratios and cut them myself.
I used Copper and aluminum for the electrodes (can't remember which was positive and negative, but that is in the SOS II).
Also, one electrode was smaller than the other (again in the SOS II) .
Then I took a PVC pipe couple (available at Home Depot), but go to a plumbing store for the big ones), cut a slot down each side (for the parallel model) and stacked my sheets. Lots of sheets.
Andy
I like it, Andy, especially the plastics..very forgiving. And the PVC idea, nice even spacing Im sure..good for accurate measurements, too.
Nice to see this all surfacing as a viable experiement, worthy of time spent and effort applied.
Due to these drawings, my next gravitator will be slightly different, but similar in materials.
Cheers
Dave
QuoteSo, shall we build one according to this math?
yes, dave, i think we should.
I'm very pleased to have such brains turning up on a forum, we have done more here in 5 months than i was able to get done in the last 6 years on other forums.
Pegasus Power!
Some great tips there Andy, & i promise to read all the info i have recieved, and then i can comment on it.
The shapes & materials of the plates is important, so it would be neat to use those formulas when making them.
Try to avoid hydrocarbon plastics....
Before you get too far, let me throw out this excell file that I was adding to for a number of years - it may be of some use.
Please keep it among yourselves for your own use, and hey...
If you have an update, please PM/email me or post it so we can keep improving upon it !
Is that graph of the slop (what looks like one is linear and the other inverse square) the field or it's propulsion velocity plots. -dcooper