In looking at the both Bigfoot an ET contact things just keep getting squirrelier an more Alice in the rabbit hole.
Both fields of study suffer from the same things.
-lack of conclusive proof at scenes of sightings.
-lack of conclusive DNA in public domain
-contactee's suffer from same effects
...memory loss
...missing time
...implanted memories
...cryptic answers to simple questions from ET's an Foot's.
...use of advanced tech
...use of mindspeak
...both fear us using our latent psi ability
...both report soul thievery attempts
...tailored cover stories
...wall of fear or paralysis
...constant monitoring by both ET's an BF going back generations in families
Both fields suffer from blurry or fuzzy pics
Both are insistantly disinfo'd or ignored by Govt's
Both run rampant over military bases with impunity
Both have been around from our earliest memories
So OK....reading many witness reports from both sides of the fence just who the heck are we playing with?
....an who thought we wouldn't look at the patterns an ask questions?
Interesting to see these two subjects grouped together. I remember an episode of the Six Million Dollar Man that had Bigfoot being an ET controlled robot. Okay, enough digression. I'm familiar with "missing time," having experienced it. I also tend to get overly worried if I happen to be in a wooded area at night. I feel like "something" is going to come out of the trees and get me. I've had nightmares about both Bigfoot and ET for years, which could be an overactive imagination. It could be something else. But, indeed, who are we playing with, or being played by?
Shasta
Ah, I picture Nessie and Bigfoot laughing it up over a Guiness somewhere!
What makes me wonder about Bigfoot's exsitence is the lack of dna, as you posed..especially the lack of skeletal remains..are they interning their dead like humans do? Or are they just a hoax?
So little info, so little evidence.
I will say I have seen and heard some disturbing things deep in the woods, and wouldnt be surprised if there was some sort of humanoid hairy fella running around here and there, but with population density growing, it seems like there should be more evidence.
Now, as some here discuss, myself included, what if bigfoot is an interdimensional entity, who looks like a Chewbacca?To that I might say YAY!
If there are such entities, they may have a way of appearing as a camouflaged hairy dude, to blend in better, but as for Bigfoot existing within our plane or dimension, Im more likely to say NAY!
EBE's? I definitely believe they exist, just as with Bigfoot though, they dont leave much good evidence for the cameras and ufo hunters, do they?
So, Id have to say, if Bigfoot does exist, he'd be an EBE of some kind with some sort of cloaking or interdimensional shift ability.
Cheers!
Dave
Quote from: Littleenki on August 07, 2012, 06:31:52 PM
Ah, I picture Nessie and Bigfoot laughing it up over a Guiness somewhere!
What makes me wonder about Bigfoot's exsitence is the lack of dna, as you posed..especially the lack of skeletal remains..are they interning their dead like humans do? Or are they just a hoax?
So little info, so little evidence.
I will say I have seen and heard some disturbing things deep in the woods, and wouldnt be surprised if there was some sort of humanoid hairy fella running around here and there, but with population density growing, it seems like there should be more evidence.
Now, as some here discuss, myself included, what if bigfoot is an interdimensional entity, who looks like a Chewbacca?To that I might say YAY!
If there are such entities, they may have a way of appearing as a camouflaged hairy dude, to blend in better, but as for Bigfoot existing within our plane or dimension, Im more likely to say NAY!
EBE's? I definitely believe they exist, just as with Bigfoot though, they dont leave much good evidence for the cameras and ufo hunters, do they?
So, Id have to say, if Bigfoot does exist, he'd be an EBE of some kind with some sort of cloaking or interdimensional shift ability.
Cheers!
Dave
They are real Dave , they just live underground. They only come out into our realm for a brief visit . That's why you don't find any poop or dead bodies, that's not where they do that .Hell... I am not sure but they probably come and go from here back to Mars..... their home planet . John Lear says " don't try to pet them" he he !!
I recommend reading A Day with an Extraterrestrial by Lou Baldin which has most of the answers to the questions you have asked. All will be disclosed to you on a personal basis, until that you just have to wade through the immense amount of non-sense both coming from the government and the crackpots.
Quote from: Shasta56 on August 07, 2012, 04:53:56 PM
Interesting to see these two subjects grouped together.
Putting Bigfoot and ET together, is a lot like having a peanut butter and alfalfa sandwich. On their own, each one might be marginally weird, but still tastes good. Together, however, not only the eldritch factor, but the enjoyment level skyrockets. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjQMpBb1gps
Quote from: hoss58 on August 07, 2012, 07:16:47 PM
They are real Dave , they just live underground. They only come out into our realm for a brief visit . That's why you don't find any poop or dead bodies, that's not where they do that .Hell... I am not sure but they probably come and go from here back to Mars..... their home planet . John Lear says " don't try to pet them" he he !!
no they don't go back to their home planet... yes "They only come out into our realm for a brief visit "
Quote from: Caver78 on August 07, 2012, 04:33:24 PM
In looking at the both Bigfoot an ET contact things just keep getting squirrelier an more Alice in the rabbit hole.
This is why black ops uses the "Alice Code" for anything top secret and why we have the term 'going down a deep rabbit hole' when we talk of black ops projects. It is not coincidence.. it a written code
Quote-lack of conclusive proof at scenes of sightings.
-lack of conclusive DNA in public domain
You cannot find hard evidence when the object is not physically in this realm...
Quote-contactee's suffer from same effects
...memory loss
...missing time
After effects of dimensional shifts
QuoteBoth fields suffer from blurry or fuzzy pics
You cannot get a clear picture of something that is not in this dimension and has a field generated around it
QuoteBoth are insistantly disinfo'd or ignored by Govt's
Not true... only in the public eye... those that don't dig deeper
Naturally occurring anomalous teleportation phenomena that were previously studied by the United States and foreign governments were also documented in the study and are reviewed in the report. - DTIC Copy - AFRL-PR-ED-TR-2003-0034
QuoteBoth run rampant over military bases with impunity
At this time we have no way of stopping a dimensional portal from opening
QuoteBoth have been around from our earliest memories
Quite true Gog an Magog were locked behind a double portal... we just don't know WHO locked them there
QuoteSo OK....reading many witness reports from both sides of the fence just who the heck are we playing with?
have seen reports of Bigfoot track that start nowhere and go for a few steps and then suddenly end.
The only logical explanation for that is that a dimensional doorway briefly opened and for a brief time we saw into that world, and the BF saw out... The interaction zone... leaving the footprints... is all that is left because the viewer is in his world and BF is in his own world. If you had shot BF at that moment it might be possible that the body would stay...
Have we forgotten the Bermuda Triangle? Compasses go haywire and ships vanish and reappear. Many such natural portals around the world.
Admiral Byrds diary tells that his compass went wild and suddenly in an instant they were no longer over the ice. No they didn't go to the center of the earth through a hole at the pole... because the position of the sun didn't change. Just the compass went screwy and suddenly they were in a different world
Skinwalker Ranch - NIDS Robert Bigelow etal... creatures just appearing from nowhere... then suddenly all activity at that location stopped
Philadelphia Experiment... NAVY attempting to make use of these portals... didn't work out so good :D
As to ET About 80% of sightings are of the 'Critter' kind. Glowing plasma life forms NOT UFO spacecraft. These plasma critters can not be photographed beyond a blob of light or a fuzzy blob by day After 35 years of studying UFO's my estimates are that 80%ish fit into the critter category, 15% black ops craft and 5% the true alien visitors
We had heavy visitation from them in the 50's and I believe that they are not currently stopping by on a regular basis. (Not counting the greys that lurk under ground)
Denise Stoner, MUFON Florida director and ex government investigator agrees with me but tends to say 50% are critter. She also believes most encounters are inter dimensional in nature
If you consider the inter dimensional hypothesis, you will find that observed reports make more sense. Like why can you get a photo of Nessy one minute but nothing shows up on sonar
This is a brief outline. I have been working on making a thread but this is a hard topic to document :D
wellllllllllllll after reading here long enough i have come to realize that we each have our own favorite sci fi explaination for stuff
when i read this back in the late 80's.. it made me feel better cause i was sure there were some bigfoot where i rode..
so here's one of my favorite far out explainations
it's from Ra the law of one
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Earth+History&su=Maldek%2FBigfoot
Questioner: Is there any particular race of people on our planet now who were incarnated here from second density?
Ra: I am Ra. There are no second-density consciousness complexes here on your sphere at this time. However, there are two races which use the second-density form. One is the entities of the planetary sphere you call Maldek. These entities are working their understanding complexes through a series of what you would call karmic restitutions. They dwell within your deeper underground passageways and are known to you as "Bigfoot."
The other race is that being offered a dwelling in this density by guardians who wish to give the mind/body/spirit complexes of those who are of this density at this time appropriately engineered physical vehicles, as you would call these chemical complexes, in the event that there is what you call nuclear war.
9.18 Questioner: I didn't understand what these vehicles or beings were for that were appropriate in the event of nuclear war.
Ra: I am Ra. These are beings which exist as instinctual second-density beings which are being held in reserve to form what you would call a gene pool in case these body complexes are needed. These body complexes are greatly able to withstand the rigors of radiation which the body complexes you now inhabit could not do.
9.19 Questioner: Where are these body complexes located?
Ra: I am Ra. These body complexes of the second race dwell in uninhabited deep forest. There are many in various places over the surface of your planet.
9.20 Questioner: Are they Bigfoot-type creatures?
Ra: This is correct although we would not call these Bigfoot, as they are scarce and are very able to escape detection. The first race is less able to be aware of proximity of other mind/body/spirit complexes, but these beings are very able to escape due to their technological understandings before their incarnations here. These entities of the glowing eyes are those most familiar to your peoples.
9.21 Questioner: Then there are two different types of Bigfoot. Correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final question.
There are three types of Bigfoot, if you will accept that vibratory sound complex used for three such different races of mind/body/spirit complexes. The first two we have described.
The third is a thought-form.
;)
interesting comment
have seen reports of Bigfoot track that start nowhere and go for a few steps and then suddenly end.
way back (early 80's) when a friend and i were collecting cats that were dumped off at farms
and spaying and nuetering them (my friend worked at a vets) we ran into some
very interesting things
one of which was a set of foot prints that we thought were from a mountian lion
we are in the boonies..
and we were really excited so we followed the track..we were on an old jeep trail
and something strange happened after about 20 or so feet.. the track changed into
what looked like a giant three toed bird track
we got the hell outta there and never did go back
Please do not re-post this all over the internet. I got permission for members of THIS forum to view this. It's copyrighted and
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This shows the fields emitted an more if you have good eyes. ;D
Quote from: Caver78 on August 07, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
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This shows the fields emitted an more if you have good eyes. ;D
Yes, it would be nice to have more info on that one.
Skinwalker Ranch - NIDS Robert Bigelow etal... creatures just appearing from nowhere... then suddenly all activity at that location stopped
Yes Z, that is what came to mind for me. That ranch had the whole range of phenomena. Do you have any info on it in your treasure stash sire?
In the early 80's I spent some time around the Hoopa Indian reservation. Had some interesting experiences. Did find some bigfoot poop and I can tell you in all honesty, they poop really really big! Seriously! 4 inches in diameter and 20 inches long, full of leafy material and berrie seeds. It was a foot outside of my friends tent....he never came back! Was close enough to hear one breathing and they smell horrible, like sulfur with an animal muskiness together. Also heard the wood knocks. This happened up in the hills on the north side of the Klamath River north of Hoopa. They ARE there! There are 2 ongoing DNA projects and we should have news soon....at least that is what is being said. Whatever they are, they are out there.
These were taken by the same person, also copyrighted, of BF in invisible mode.
While combining both EBE's an BF was ''someplace'' I didn't want to go, at some point both trails lead to Shasta's observation who's playing us?
SkyOtter the answer by Ra may actually be valid as it was given in 1998 or earlier an the glowing eyes wasn't reported back then.
Since that time it has been reported but redacted from many reports. We talk about it anyways....heheheh. The channeled info speaks to them giving us answers in many different forms altho the ''voice'' behnd it remains the same whether it's a BF speaking, a gray or any other type of alien. The messages are always in circles or riddles and need to be checked for disinfo.
Personally I think we are all looking at the elephant in the room and describing different parts.
The doorways Zorgon referenced can be closed. It can be done with organic materials commonly found if you can do the math, to alter the place one is found. Their doorways are contingent on place and inherent properties of that place. I was never sure if it was magnetics or what.
Thank you everyone for replying! I expected this thread to kinda shrivel up an die a lonely little slide into oblivion.
QuoteSo OK....reading many witness reports from both sides of the fence just who the heck are we playing with?
Answer;
Ourselves.
Your/my/our "
Outer Mind" is
Presenting this Program (Your Body & Universe) to
Your/my/our "
Inner Mind" (Center)
All which exists, exists between "
Ends", whether it be so called Material or Not,
like a the simple form of a Line, in that the Line itself, exists between
6 "
Ends",
even if the Line is "
Conceptual". :D
IF in the Horizontal Orientation...
1. The Left End.
2. The Right End.
3. The Upper End (Edge)
4. The Lower End (Edge)
5. The Near Face.
and
6. The Rear Face.
YES / NO ? :D
So too does the Mind exist between "Ends"; The "Inner" & "Outer".
Each of us observe our experience from the Center of our Mind (The Inner Mind)
The "
Outer" of our Mind (Individually) Presents the Experience to the
Center of its Mind.
Quote from: zorgon on August 07, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
no they don't go back to their home planet... yes "They only come out into our realm for a brief visit "
Thanks Zorgon, are they banished here?
In another post down the page you mention the plasma life forms that you might see in the daytime , I saw something like that one clear sunny day. I was looking up at the sky about 45 degrees , and I noticed a silvery blob , it shimmered like you would see if you were looking through a lens like a telescope or as I have seen , like heat waves when you look through a surveyors theodolite. I watched this object for a good minute of staring and while I did , it seemed to wink in and out but hold the exact same position . I think this is what I was seeing !!
I was just thinking about this a couple of days ago , pondering what it might have been . Now I think I know.
One of the biggest things we've noticed it the coordinated effort to keep us isolated an not exchanging information. Whoever or whatever is passing itself off as EBE'S or Bigfoot or the nephalim or whatever feeds us bits an pieces in very carefully worded 'press releases''. I call it using 'voice'' like in Dune.
Whoever is pulling the strings is doing it across all the spectrums of entities. Some of us have poked back an found it's highly disconcerting to 'them' and more info can be gleaned by their reactions. By refusing to be spoon fed the pablum stories have changed, new more supposedly acceptable disinformation has been forthcoming an by looking at what they think we'll accept we learn more about their thinking processes.
1] they count on us not questioning
2]they count on us being predictable
3]They move in and around us in our blind spots and ''gaps''
We've seen them roll out new tech such as the EyeGlow among other things but curiously things are never so advanced we can't catch up quickly. That alone is telling. Either they have restrictions or they aren't as advanced as they would have us believe.
1] Altering our genes using infrasound.....really not rocket science.
2] cloaking? Just a type of more advanced camoflage most animals use.
3] Portals? Just taking advantage of natural phemomena!
The ships they use have me currently stumped, but I'm sure someone here could assist with that. So far our biggest achilies heel has been silence...not brainpower. ;D
By coming here they accept at least 1/2 of our own physical limitations and more limitations we haven't looked at. These are tools we can use to gain more info. I'm not just going to roll over an go easily.....ROFLMAO
So I jumped the shark an figured it's time someone asked you guys what you know an what you've experienced in piecing some of this into context.
Kewannee Laperisitis has a whole crew of BF habituators opened up to the idea of working with both BF and EBE'S. No questions asked, it's all rainbows and sunshine. Um......no. Not without a mess more information, valid reasons more than just ''they're advanced beings'' an more than just it's time for us to evolve.
No ones asking evolve into what....what do WE get out of the deal....an a looksee at the bigger picture. All the manipulations are cute an all...but anything that shows up kidnapping people, lying relentlessly and herding us around like cattle really needs looked at hard. VERY HARD.
JMO of course....
I will admit that I hadn't heard of Bigfeet snatching people. Well, there was that one case; but crypto isn't really a side of things I went into, all that much. I found enough hoaxes early on, that it made me think there were other things to look at, which might be more worthwhile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE
I saw this a bit back. Some will probably say that there's a bit too much Sitchin moonbattery involved, but he does make an interesting case. A few gaps in logic, perhaps; but surprisingly few. It's pretty solid.
I woke up and fought back one night. Not one of my better experiences, but empowering.
Shasta
well i have been beaten to the skinwalker explanation as a great example,but i had
no idea the phenomenon had stopped there?
inter dimensional deffo imo.
Does this account also for people just vanishing? like the Untersberg mountain? is there a portal there?
Quote from: petrus4 on August 08, 2012, 07:01:32 PM
I will admit that I hadn't heard of Bigfeet snatching people. Well, there was that one case; but crypto isn't really a side of things I went into, all that much. I found enough hoaxes early on, that it made me think there were other things to look at, which might be more worthwhile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE
I saw this a bit back. Some will probably say that there's a bit too much Sitchin moonbattery involved, but he does make an interesting case. A few gaps in logic, perhaps; but surprisingly few. It's pretty solid.
Here's a link to the Ostman story. Interesting and seems credible. It is from 1924 and current day sightings match Ostman's descriptions.
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/classics/ostman.htm
Here's Dr. Matthew's account, one of the most credible witnesses I have seen. Good story!
http://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_report.asp?id=678
Quote from: petrus4 on August 08, 2012, 07:01:32 PM
I will admit that I hadn't heard of Bigfeet snatching people. Well, there was that one case; but crypto isn't really a side of things I went into, all that much. I found enough hoaxes early on, that it made me think there were other things to look at, which might be more worthwhile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE
I saw this a bit back. Some will probably say that there's a bit too much Sitchin moonbattery involved, but he does make an interesting case. A few gaps in logic, perhaps; but surprisingly few. It's pretty solid.
Thanks for the video, Very interesting indeed. He sure has done a lot of homework on this.
It does make one think. My self, mostly about the unused 90%. Need to find that switch and see what happens.
Deuem
Quote from: deuem on August 09, 2012, 09:02:24 AM
My self, mostly about the unused 90%. Need to find that switch and see what happens.
What 90%? ???
Quote from: ArMaP on August 09, 2012, 01:51:29 PM
What 90%? ???
In the video it talks about the 90% of the brain we do not use and why.
Sometimes my wife tells me I don't use any of it.
She may be right, one only has to misplace 10%. A very small portion!
Deuem
OK....
In for a penny, in for a pound. :)
What happened to Ostman was no doubt real, but it was also yrs ago. I'm here cause even weirder stuff is ongoing an seems over the yrs to be progressing. Just like you all know all kinds of EBE reports an sightings I haven't gotten to or don't have access to, I've had access to BF reports of human contact, and my own that aren't published anywhere.
I was contacted as a kid and it's been ongoing.
QUOTE
'' It's like they string us along, so we don't get too frustrated and always feel like we are just a little behind. In fact, I think we might be far far behind and they toy with us''
This pretty much sums it up.
I had always put them in the context of Native American Teachings so despite seeing things that should have rung my bell hard and kicked in critical thinking I would just go COOL! accepting that weirdness was a ''norm''. I just puttered along at my day job, raising kids ect not really getting the import of what was going on.
One more recent example-
In march of 2011 we heard a horriffic noise outside that is simular to the arial noises that other people are reporting all over the globe. So I went outside thinking something had happened somewhere in the valley here. Standing out there I soon heard a pack of coyotes sounding off. I was pretty excited as we don't have them here.
My excitement quicly turned to horror as the calls morphed into whoop-ah's and went primate house. Standing there in shock listening to this come closer along the ridge is where the wheels came off the bus. I got hit with the typical wall of fear projected or instilled by BF. Since I'd been speaking with some researchers I trusted an had no real respect for people who cut an run I had to stand there.
Two approched form my east an were about 100ft away in the treeline by my shed, but these researchers had told me to not focus on what was in front of me...that they do it on purpose while another or more will circle around you. So I did waht I'd been told an faced west an sure enough at least one has circled around the back of the property to the west side an was in the driveway.
The problem was....I have a montion censor light on that corner of the house an it's cencor is set at 6-7 ft off the ground so my dogs/raccoons ect weren't constantly tripping it. I was hearing large footsteps an the light was being triggered an I couldn't see ANYTHING with my eyes. I stood there facing it for about 15 min an it was triggered repeatedly.
Yes I was scared out of my mind.
I could also hear movement behind me as something was walking behind the shed crunching on leaves an sticks. I figured I'd proven my point on standing my ground an made a break for the front door. Later that night we had lots of activity in the yard an something messed with our bedroom window.
In the world of BF reporting hey! something ripped open a doorway an within minutes BF came from that direction! Will make you a pariah faster than the speed of light. At first I was happy my husband was a witness to this, then quickly realized even in a court of law a spouse is not reliable corroberation. So we chalked it up to another occurance we would just keep to ourselves.
The event wasn't significant until someone pointed out to me BF needs ''tech'' to open an close portals at will. That makes this less BF, and slaps it firmly in the realm of ''unknown being''.
So I'm hear looking for input from people who know more about that end of the spectrum than I do.
Wow, you are brave!
I would set up some foor print areas around the yard and see if I could get anything that way.
Every night just give them a little water to make sure they are fresh.
See what you catch in the dirt.
Deuem
caver
wow..and you get points for standing your ground..big points
i have never seen one..but the coyotes seem to be somehow connected to BF
way back before we knew better we tried to follow their (bf) sounds
coming from something we didn't know then..but it moved way to fast from one hill top to another
we gave up..haven't heard those exact sounds since but now and then coyotes show up
out of no where
what a mystery, huh.. ???
Just for the record that Lloyd pie vid fits perfectly into what i find more
believable than our so called history,I have never sat rite with Darwin's
theory of evolution.
very interesting topic. if only we had NIDS info on the skinwalker stuff.
Sky otter you're exactly right, they seem to have yotes who hang out with them and the BF also imitate them quite well!! ;)
For Deum I've tried raking the gound in the treeline I know they approch the property from an they go around it.
:'(
What got me back to Pegasus in a more serious way was ShotInThe Dark's post's about Charles Hall and the Tall Whites. With the exception of their distain for animals there is nothing in their attitude or even behavior that I haven't experienced for a fact in dealing with Bigfoot.
Their vocals with the exception of the loud howls are even the same. Or at least as much as I can decern without having Mr.Hall listen to a few recordings to verify. I find this chilling and very unsettling.
Also Please no atta'girls for standing my ground...LOL...I did it cause the researcher I was dealing with would have done the same. It was a massively stupid thing to do. I don't reccomend it.
Yotes and Bigfoots. Hmmm. Coyote has a large role in a lot of N.A. stories. Usually as a trickster, so maybe that fits. Pawndering.
Shasta
;D
was just checking Stan Gordon's site
http://www.stangordon.info/wp/news-events/
and ran across this
http://nickredfernfortean.blogspot.com/2012/08/ufos-and-strange-creatures.html
some might be interested as it continues interestingly
http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2012/08/when-aliens-and-creatures-clash/#more-12268
Mysterious Universe When Aliens and Creatures Clash
Aug 2nd in Cryptozoology & UFO Phenomenon by Nick Redfern
blurb from above link
Of course, many Ufologists and Cryptozoologists get irate and fired up when I bring up such matters. But what the heck; I don't care. The fact is that there are a lot of cases suggesting a connection. So why hide them? Let's take a look...
Stan Gordon is a well-known, long-term researcher, writer and authority on many things of a Fortean nature – as is clearly evidenced by his excellent and insightful 2010 book, Silent Invasion: The Pennsylvania UFO-Bigfoot Casebook, which was sent to me for review in January of that year. Now, I know for sure that any book suggesting Bigfoot may somehow be inextricably linked with the UFO phenomenon is bound to raise distinct hackles in certain quarters, but, such reports undeniably exist, so examine them we must...
8)
Quote from: zorgon on August 07, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
no they don't go back to their home planet... yes "They only come out into our realm for a brief visit "
Years ago I was asked to help man the booth for our local UFO group at a 'whole life expo' here in town. I said no problem.
We had various UFO pictures on display and books and the like and a handout detailing when the meetings were.
I sat next to the director for the day answering questions and watching people wander by looking at the photos and books.
About mid- afternoon a middle aged man and his wife and daughter wandered by. He waited until they had moved on to the next booth and then he nervously looked both ways and quietly told us about an incident that happened to him a few years previous.
He said he doesn't know if this has anything to do with UFO's, but this is what happened - He is a farmer who lives near Mt. Hood here, and one day while out in his field, he saw what looked like a huge 10 foot tall clear circular clear sort of teardrop or drop of water form in mid- air.
Then suddenly a bigfoot stepped out of it, it looked around and then took off running towards the tree line. The 'water drop' quickly faded.
He has never seen it or the large 'drop of water' ever again.
And... he has never told anyone this story.
He looked at us like please tell me I am not crazy.
We just said wow you could be right we have no idea.
He indeed seemed like a salt of the earth no foolishness farmer sort of person and seemed concerned that anyone not hear him tell the story.
He seemed genuine to me.
Quote from: A51Watcher on August 10, 2012, 04:34:42 AM
Years ago I was asked to help man the booth for our local UFO group at a 'whole life expo' here in town. I said no problem.
We had various UFO pictures on display and books and the like and a handout detailing when the meetings were.
I sat next to the director for the day answering questions and watching people wander by looking at the photos and books.
About mid- afternoon a middle aged man and his wife and daughter wandered by. He waited until they had moved on to the next booth and then he nervously looked both ways and quietly told us about an incident that happened to him a few years previous.
He said he doesn't know if this has anything to do with UFO's, but this is what happened - He is a farmer who lives near Mt. Hood here, and one day while out in his field, he saw what looked like a huge 10 foot tall clear circular clear sort of teardrop or drop of water form in mid- air.
Then suddenly a bigfoot stepped out of it, it looked around and then took off running towards the tree line. The 'water drop' quickly faded.
He has never seen it or the large 'drop of water' ever again.
And... he has never told anyone this story.
He looked at us like please tell me I am not crazy.
We just said wow you could be right we have no idea.
He indeed seemed like a salt of the earth no foolishness farmer sort of person and seemed concerned that anyone not hear him tell the story.
He seemed genuine to me.
Whenever I watch episodes of program below I tell myself your not gonna find them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SF9sxp-kSs
Quote from: A51Watcher on August 10, 2012, 04:34:42 AM
He indeed seemed like a salt of the earth no foolishness farmer sort of person and seemed concerned that anyone not hear him tell the story.
He seemed genuine to me.
Well, I guess that makes spotting a triangle kind of normal then.
;) This brought to mind the hologram projecting tech that
the MIC most likely has.
Of course I was scolded today for my skeptical thinking concerning
Extra Terrestrial life, and the advanced transportation they "most
likely" have.
Its has been my usual stance that all of the good stuff belongs
to Area51, China Lake, so I was told today I am wrong.
;D ;D
Quote from: A51Watcher on August 10, 2012, 04:34:42 AM
Years ago I was asked to help man the booth for our local UFO group at a 'whole life expo' here in town. I said no problem.
We should consider doing that as PRC and I can add healing crystals etc to take in a buck or three :D
QuoteHe has never seen it or the large 'drop of water' ever again.
Many people always say "Why can no one get a clear photo of these UFO's etc....
Well consider this...
(http://allbetsareoff.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/force_field_th.jpg)
Same reason... different cause... jet exhaust
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/final-post.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/model_image.jpg)
get the picture?
::)
Quote from: biggles on August 10, 2012, 04:49:19 AM
Whenever I watch episodes of program below I tell myself your not gonna find them.
All those TV shows, UFO hunters, Ghost hunters, History Chanel, etc will NEVER find ANYTHING
I gave up watching them because they are all about hype. They use flashing images that don't stay long enough for you to see them, they use music deliberately picked to get your adrenaline going and in the end you NEVER get one result...
I watched three hours of that Sphinx discovery only for them to suddenly end it with nothing...
The only thing they do have is they start with some documented cases. So watch the beginning then google the case :P
What really bugs me is things like the Ghost Hunters... they get spooked at every little thing that goes bump. LOL Its funny but sad at the same time
I guess the hype sells... I guess it does expose these stories to the general sheepdom, but they only look at it as entertainment... no real investigation.
There is no way any of those networks would ever air a real find :D
They may have entertainment value but I get headaches watching the hype :(
Quote from: zorgon on August 10, 2012, 05:09:22 AM
We should consider doing that as PRC and I can add healing crystals etc to take in a buck or three :D
Many people always say "Why can no one get a clear photo of these UFO's etc....
Well consider this...
(http://allbetsareoff.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/force_field_th.jpg)
Same reason... different cause... jet exhaust
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/final-post.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/model_image.jpg)
get the picture?
::)
If you went to those expos see if you can get an attractive female to go with, that would attract the males.
The crystals always attract most females.
Quote from: biggles on August 10, 2012, 05:32:31 AM
If you went to those expos see if you can get an attractive female to go with, that would attract the males.
The crystals always attract most females.
yeah we went to that one in San Jose on ATS's ticket but I never thought of bringing the stones and jewelry LOL what a mistake... the ones who did rakes in big time. We made enough to cover costs of material and expenses broke even really but had a good trip out of it
Ya can't get rich at those things but at least you can get a bit of fun and if ya break even... so much the better
I can take my daughter
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/04images/Bay_Area_UFO_Expo/DSCF0009_01.JPG)
Just need to get a new vehicle for the trip renting them now has gone through the roof
One of the nurses from work was up in Estes Park at the Stanley Hotel recently. She showed me some photos that she took of a chair. A faint image of a man's head and shoulders was visible in the chair.
Shasta
OK where to start, Well i have to say after doing a whole lot of re evaluating the principles i held dear to me regarding the whole Alien UFO or Demonic question i seem to have come to a turning point where i now think i finally can see the bigger picture here.
After reading back over various accounts and sources like Dr Karlar Turner and her views, also looking at the bible (genesis) and a lot of old myth tales from around the world through the ages I have to admit as much as i hate to bring religion into a subject the evidence is there to back up claims that these ET's or inter dimensional beings are not at all what some have been led to believe.
The nephilim being also a subject i have immersed myself into makes the case even stronger that what we may be dealing with are in fact Demonic in nature and are as old as time itself.
This has of course put me in a difficult place, very uncomfortable. I still think there are actual extra terrestrial beings and they may have visited us but when i look at the abduction case's with fresh eyes and learned more about how we can be used against our will and have any image placed into our mind by these demons as a control method as stated in this thread as well as finding this is what seems to be really happening i now see why it is such a dangerous topic to get involved with.
It also clears up how and why people speak of selling there soul to the devil for fame or fortune there is a massive deception going on here and it goes to the highest level of power.
maybe i need some rest as i have been flat out since this thread got me thinking i started on a search for some truth and i found so many things that shed new light on the Demonic side of things, i mean who wants to admit that there are really such things as demons? or get involved with religion. i even took another look at the book "communion" by whitley striber and it led me down the same path.
How have i missed this when i made it my hobby from an early age? i have never discounted demons but never put them in with the alien UFO thing.where do you start to put each case into each group? is there even more than one type of phenomenon here? have i been in denial all this time? not wanting to really admit devils fallen angels and the nephilim really are part of our history and the truth is so terrible that it is the ultimate taboo?
God i am so lost yet it makes perfect sense. this is only the tip of what i have been pondering,there is far to much info that i have to just put in this one post.I feel i cannot go back,like i have opened up Pandora's box. ???
A difficult thing, quantifying this phenomena well enough to name it. Perhaps the attempt to name has called them many things?
In my study of Bigfoot, I came to understand this was an umbrella term describing several phenomena. The Sasquatch of the PNW do not resemble the swamp apes of Florida, for example. As my readings broadened and I met people interested in the topic I realized there was certainly others that had been seen.
To confuse observers, it is my contention that someone is using the Bigfoot mystery as cover. This agency simply co-opted an existing government program and subverted it to thier own purposes. What government program is this? I refer to the unspoken law of the land, common sense. Any government bureaucrat can imagine the logistics of a nationwide Bigfoot scare. In the current economy this could lead to dangerous precedent, like pay per call policing. No government has the resources to calm a frightened public that finds the monsters are in thier midst! It is easier and more practical to allow the Bigfoot issue to become a footnote, or perhaps, a punchline.
In this grey area of our own creation lives a very rare creature, well adapted to this land as recently as two hundred years ago, but now vanishingly rare. This is the Sasquatch, a rarely seen tribe of giants. These are the twelve footers that leave twenty inch footprints. They seem to range as far south as Oregon and Northern California but are most often seen along the coast from Washington to Alaska. The more common Bigfoot ranges across the United States and are seen with Sasquatches enough to be considered different strains of the same type. It is thought that these are long lived beings and Bigfoots might eventually grow into Sasquatches as they age. We don't know.
So little is known about these creatures that attempts have been made historically to mimic them for profit. In our imaginings they become lovable oafs fooled by campers munching jerky. Yet, among the people who see these creatures every day there is an emerging trend. They seem to be much more than forest dwelling animals. They seem to have some incredibly advanced abilities and perhaps even possess advanced technologies. How? Or, why?
First, it's important to know that we are talking about scarce anecdotes recalled by people under great stress. Yet, some things do emerge, unusual details that are noticed by even a very frightened mind. These same details are mentioned in disparate circumstances and locations by people unknown to each other. Yet, again and again the reader will be confronted by the peculiar reality of the witness. Knowing they will be disbelieved, witnesses insist they had outlandish experiences, often suggesting their own ability to understand what they had seen was insufficient. They sometimes don't have vocabulary to describe what they had seen and use pop-culture references. So, the cloaking device in "Predator" might be mentioned or the portal from "Terminator". Recently they have been introducing technical elements that do not appear in nature.
Where would the Bigfoots get technical aids? Perhaps we should ask when?
Before I expand on that, let me make the observation that a lot of what we see as questions about Bigfoot may actually be answers. How is that? Well, consider the limiting factor extended weightlessness plays in damning us to our planet. We lose bone density too quickly to ever contemplate a long journey in space. What would the answer be? Well, we could try pilots with huge bones, I suppose. What if they need to communicate in space? Infrasound ability would be handy. Oversized hearts and huge lung capacities might also help out in space. Fur, too, it's cold in space.
Bear with me here, doesn't theoretical physics talk about folds in space where two different points in history might briefly occupy space beside each other? Suppose the Bigfoots were pensioned off to ancient Earth to live in peace after they had served thier (engineered) purpose? All good, until we reach the age of scientific ability (enlightenment?) to figure it out. Then, it becomes something of a loose end. It's an anomoly, a relic of our future.
When we looked at the DNA samples found by witnesses we scoffed when they came back invariably as human. Fakes! the skeptics declared. Well, not if Bigfoots are made out of human. Then, when research showed that they were a type of human not known to us we began to confront the strange stories of witnesses who said the Bigfoots were too advanced to catch. They were too far ahead of us to catch off gaurd. The advent of each technological advance is anticipated by them to a frustrating degree! It's like they know in advance about our newest innovations!
What if they are simply remembering or researching into thier own ancient histories?
Quote from: Shasta56 on August 10, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
One of the nurses from work was up in Estes Park at the Stanley Hotel recently. She showed me some photos that she took of a chair. A faint image of a man's head and shoulders was visible in the chair.
Shasta
Been reading this thread and nodding my head.
The empty chair does have some significance. It shows up in a special shot in the movie "Fallen" in which the demon Azazel moves through the population by touch.
I speculate that it represents power that is invisible in nature, likely an incorporeal entity. The empty chair scene in the film occurs as the woman is being pursued by Azazel after speaking to Denzel Washington's character about fallen angels.
Some of them, the fallen, were punished by being deprived of form, meaning they were/are incorporeal.
StealthyAurora,
I don't know if you still visit here, but I'm giving you gold for your above post (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2284.msg32741#msg32741 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2284.msg32741#msg32741)).
I believe that you are correct and I've come to the same conclusions as a generational contactee.
It is all related and religion, though warped by time, is still part of the key to unlocking what the hell going on.
I've also come to the conclusion that if we figure it out we will be able to overthrow the master and bust out of this bullsh*t reality it has created for us. This is why silence is always emphasized ("If you know, you shouldn't tell" or "Those who know, don't tell" or "Silence is Golden."). This thing is terrorizing us into silence because it, in turn, is terrified we will find out.