O.K. so I'm checking out the first images from the latest Rover.I zoom in on what in on what I thought was a rock. Now I'm not so sure it's a rock at all. Maybe I am trying to hard to find some sort of anomaly,because
it sure looks like something poking it's head out of the ground to me.
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/mikeybandb/Curiosity_first_highres_images.png)
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57489460-76/curiosity-sends-back-first-full-resolution-images/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57489460-76/curiosity-sends-back-first-full-resolution-images/)
Hmmm, Mikey...looks like a mollusk or snail...
HAs some symmetrical features to like those lines.
Cool!
maybe a crashed former probe of somekind
maybe an entrance to beneath the surface
maybe mars rocks are like that
hummmmmmmmmmmmm
Quote from: sky otter on August 09, 2012, 03:51:45 PM
maybe a crashed former probe of somekind
maybe an entrance to beneath the surface
maybe mars rocks are like that
hummmmmmmmmmmmm
Or maybe I'm reading too much into it as usual
mikey
i am a firm believer that our focus is drawn to certain things and that knowledge will follow
it's just the time thing that messes with ya on when that knowledge shows up
I am having problems getting to that link, can you post a nice blowup of that area n question.
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Thanks, Deuem
Looks like one of these!
(http://www.milesteves.com/gallery/d/378-2/Neek-72.jpg)
It looks like the zoomed-in section doesn't match the original photo.
Hey Mikey, good eye! When one enlarges that screenshot, the anomalous item, to me, has the look of what might be a piece from the landing process of the rover. It is mostly very white, with uniform darker areas.
As a very "non-skeptic", that is what I see at first glance. Of course, with what I believe about the gross of activity that has taken place on Mars, I guess it could be most anything.
Just give Rover a call, and tell him to run over there and take a closer look!!! :))
Do the Mountains in the Crater Look Real ??? :o
What is a real mountain on mars supposed to look like? :))
If these are real mountains, then there certainly is some sort of "haze" hanging over them.
Now, if this Rover is inside a crater, then would not those "mountains" either be the crater rim, or formations outside of the crater.
And if those "mountains" do represent the crater rim, then I would say that crater rim might not look like a crater rim should.
We will probably have an answer, as more pics become available.
Well, now that I have done a little more looking, yep, those could be mountains. When we look at Gale Crater, and then look at the planned landing site, we can see that Curiosity probably has shot a pic of the mountainous looking rim.
I will post a screenshot of the crater, that has a drawn ellipse that shows the area where landing was planned. With that in mind, you can see some pretty rough hilly/mountainous looking stuff in the area.
For reference, the mountain inside Gale Crater, is named Mt. Sharp, and it rises 3.4 miles above the crater floor. That should give us a better feel for the height of the smaller "hills" surrounding the crater rim.
One other thing - in looking at this crater, just to the left of the mountain peak - there is an area with a little different look (if you magnify it a little more), that from a distance could be mistaken for buildings, and city! Now, JUST SAY'IN!! :))
I do think we need to be watchful for finding the real reason NASA has chosen this area for a Rover mission!!! ;)
Looks a LOT more like THIS one from the last rover
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Critters/1P131479514EFF0534P2536L5M1_L4L5L5L5L6_.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Critters/Blue_Snail_001.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Critters/1P131479514EFF0534P2536L5M1_L4L5L6L7_sharp.jpg)
1P131479514EFF0534P2536L5M1.HTML (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/037/1P131479514EFF0534P2536L5M1.HTML)
Full Size (http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/037/1P131479514EFF0534P2536L5M1.JPG)
i'm not ususally any good at loooking at these pics.. but the circle right above the one being pointed to
seems to have squares on it.. like a brick wall would look like
or a z with an extra line
can you guys see it.?
Are we going to only see black and white images again???
color cameras are supposed to be online will see what happens by Monday
Has anyone seen this yet?
I looks like a blacked out area of the rovers self portrait.
(http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/images/PIA16012_Justin-3_cropped-br.jpg)
08.08.2012
Rover's Self Portrait
This Picasso-like self portrait of NASA's Curiosity rover was taken by its Navigation cameras, located on the now-upright mast. The camera snapped pictures 360-degrees around the rover, while pointing down at the rover deck, up and straight ahead. Those images are shown here in a polar projection. Most of the tiles are thumbnails, or small copies of the full-resolution images that have not been sent back to Earth yet. Two of the tiles are full-resolution.
Image Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/images/?ImageID=4346
Wow a narcissistic Robot Go figure...
Boy I hope they get that other camera going soon :P
Yeah,it appears they are missing a frame or two in that pic.
I was wondering why some of the pics were so blurry,
Couldn't they just have attached an Iphone to it with a robotic thumb to operate it. ;D
Yes, I think we should take the initiative, and corner the market on Mars Cell Phone Business. WE need to have a plan in place soon to start building cell towers, ASAP!
That is, unless there is already a better existing service of that type, on the planet!
Nothing like being the firstest with the mostest!!
(http://www.echoesofenoch.com/clipart_scifi_spaceships_005.gif)
Quick,someone call Richard Branson to get in on the coverage of cellphones from here to Mars!
Could you imagine the customer service for that plan?
Here's a nice panoramic one!
(http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA16029.jpg)
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA16029.jpg
http://news.discovery.com/space/wide-angle-mars-rover-curiosity-landing-120731.html
Looks like this thread is going to the dogs! (avatars) :)) :)) :))
Quote from: COSMO on August 11, 2012, 04:59:54 AM
Here's a nice panoramic one!
(http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA16029.jpg)
And here (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia16051_figure_1_raw_smaller-full.jpg) is a high resolution, 50MB version of that panorama. :)
Of all the places NASA could have picked on Mars to land, they had to pick the most BORING possible crater. Its only freaking GRAVEL not even a decent rock to look at... >:(
Well maybe ONE :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com//43ancients/04images/Mars6/Curiosty_Start/Round_Rock.png)
And its dusty again... but at least not so red anymore.
One really has to wonder how come all those orbiters get such clear day pictures :D
Call me when that expensive hunk of scrap metal trips over a PEBBLE worth looking at >:(
Quote from: zorgon on August 12, 2012, 02:05:29 AM
One really has to wonder how come all those orbiters get such clear day pictures :D
That's because they have they are above the surface like the Sun, and not looking up to sky. The same thing happens on Earth, the clouds in satellite photos look less solid than when seen from the ground.
QuoteCall me when that expensive hunk of scrap metal trips over a PEBBLE worth looking at >:(
Did you see that areas where the rockets from the sky crane moved the upper layer of the ground?
(click for full size)
(http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia16054-figure_5white-full.jpg) (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia16054-figure_5white-full.jpg)
The above photo was "white-balanced".
Quote from: deuem on August 10, 2012, 09:01:50 AM
I am having problems getting to that link, can you post a nice blowup of that area n question.
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Thanks, Deuem
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/mikeybandb/capture_001_13082012_051655.png)
Quote from: ArMaP on August 10, 2012, 08:55:02 PM
It looks like the zoomed-in section doesn't match the original photo.
The colors have been invertred
Quote from: rdunk on August 11, 2012, 12:16:52 AM
Well, now that I have done a little more looking, yep, those could be mountains. When we look at Gale Crater, and then look at the planned landing site, we can see that Curiosity probably has shot a pic of the mountainous looking rim.
I will post a screenshot of the crater, that has a drawn ellipse that shows the area where landing was planned. With that in mind, you can see some pretty rough hilly/mountainous looking stuff in the area.
For reference, the mountain inside Gale Crater, is named Mt. Sharp, and it rises 3.4 miles above the crater floor. That should give us a better feel for the height of the smaller "hills" surrounding the crater rim.
One other thing - in looking at this crater, just to the left of the mountain peak - there is an area with a little different look (if you magnify it a little more), that from a distance could be mistaken for buildings, and city! Now, JUST SAY'IN!! :))
I do think we need to be watchful for finding the real reason NASA has chosen this area for a Rover mission!!! ;)
Now that you mention mountains, I also noticed this... what I think looks like a possible pyramid
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/mikeybandb/capture_002_13082012_055510.png)
(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy68/mikeybandb/Curiosity_first_highres_images2.png)
Quote from: zorgon on August 12, 2012, 02:05:29 AM
Of all the places NASA could have picked on Mars to land, they had to pick the most BORING possible crater. Its only freaking GRAVEL not even a decent rock to look at... >:(
Well maybe ONE :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com//43ancients/04images/Mars6/Curiosty_Start/Round_Rock.png)
And its dusty again... but at least not so red anymore.
One really has to wonder how come all those orbiters get such clear day pictures :D
Call me when that expensive hunk of scrap metal trips over a PEBBLE worth looking at >:(
I couldn't agree more Zorgon, hey where the heck is John? , have you talked to him lately , I can't find a post here or anywhere else either ?
Quote from: mikeybandb on August 13, 2012, 01:21:22 PM
The colors have been invertred
That explains it, although it doesn't explain why they were inverted. ???
zorgon said, "Of all the places NASA could have picked on Mars to land, they had to pick the most BORING possible crater. Its only freaking GRAVEL not even a decent rock to look at..."
Hey zorgon, you might want to wait a little, before making such an assumption, via "first glance". Gale Crater is 96 miles in diameter, and if I figured it right, Gale would
make a total area of about 7,238 square miles. ;D
There may be a big bass fishing lake there somewhere in that crater!! ;)
For some relativeness for what that might mean, Rover Opportunity has been in operation, on Mars, since January 2004, and its total "odometer" reading in Feb 2012 was 21.35 miles, Now if we called Opportunity's odometer "square miles" searched, and if Rover "Curiosity" searched at the same rate, then it will take Curiosity about 340 years to fully search out Gale crater.
Here is a bit on Curiosity's mobility. It actually travels faster than Opportunity, partially probably because of less inactive time..
Curiosity will be able to roll over obstacles approaching 65 cm (26 in) in height. Based on variables including power levels, terrain difficulty, slippage and visibility, the maximum terrain-traverse speed is estimated to be 200 m (660 ft) per day by automatic navigation. The rover landed about 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) from the foot of Mount Sharp, and it is expected to traverse a minimum of 19 km (12 mi) in its two-year mission.
I guess we all are impressed with that, right??
I want to go where all the lifelike stuff is. I think we need a blimp navbot. They sell them as toys/ adult hobby stuff here now so why not?
0CD
Or the lifeform is grass on a hillside in New Mexico somewhere...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa8yJXh9Qo
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on August 14, 2012, 04:10:16 PM
Or the lifeform is grass on a hillside in New Mexico somewhere...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa8yJXh9Qo
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That video only shows that the guy doesn't know what he is doing. :)
First of all, he doesn't even know the name of the tool (it's not a "levelling tool"), it's not the same as "adjusting contrast and brightness" and by using that eyedropper tool, it does not turn "whatever is selected into the darkest thing in the picture", it changes colours to make the selected colour as if it was black, so if you choose a colour that is not neutral (only black, white and all shades of grey are neutral), the program will change all other colours accordingly, as you can see in the video below, that I made to show exactly this in another forum.
(Yes, I do hate videos, but for some things they are the best tool we can use :) )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSF6WYnTyeU
Quote from: rdunk on August 14, 2012, 02:30:26 AMand it is expected to traverse a minimum of 19 km (12 mi) in its two-year mission.
I guess we all are impressed with that, right??
19 KM??? in TWO YEARS? Crickey I can WALK 19 km in one day even at my age ( well maybe two :P)
But seriously 19 Km? Looking at that picture all I see is flat gravel for 19km :P
As to landing sites why not here and examine the Martian Herds?
Mars Global Surveyor
MOC narrow angle image R1901066
"The Herd"
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Critters/Herd_Detail_R1901066.gif)
Or here... my favorite spot :D
Mars Global Surveyor
MOC narrow-angle image AB1-08405
SOUTHEAST FLOOR OF WEST CANDOR CHASMA
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Structures/Diamond_001.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Structures/Diamond_001c.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Structures/Diamond_001b.png)
But NOOOOOOO all WE get is some stupid boring flat crater with pebbles (and whatever that thing that ArMaP found is :P )
z, I have looked at these in detail, and there is obviously nothing here but rocks and sand!!! Of course, this is Mars, and there is nothing else on Mars, but rocks and sand. And, if you actually think there is something else there, then I would bring your family history into question, and your below average intelligence, because you are obviously lacking in the DNA area. And a lot of these others members seem to agree with me on this too. And if you continue to put out this kind of stuff, than I will report you to my friend, the site admin.
My advice is to you, is to move on to more interesting, and simple, things. Or , you can post in the ghost story forum! ... ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D
Zorgon, I just thought this would be a good time to kidd you a little bit, and in doing so, remember and relate just how personal it got for some of us at times in some of the other places. Not that we ever all agree on things, but it is so nice to not have to put up with that kind of crap-olla here!!! Thanks!!
Quote from: zorgon on August 15, 2012, 12:20:49 AM
Or here... my favorite spot :D
Mars Global Surveyor
MOC narrow-angle image AB1-08405
SOUTHEAST FLOOR OF WEST CANDOR CHASMA
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Structures/Diamond_001.png)
Didn't you see the higher resolution photos from that area? I think I posted one some time ago in another forum.
Or maybe I'm getting old and my memory is not working as it should. ;D
I will continue hoping we visit some more interesting areas. I still think an observation blimp would be the best to explore where a rover cannot go.
(http://rense.com/1.imagesH/sol1.jpg)
(http://rense.com/1.imagesH/sol3.jpg)
(http://www.eskimo.com/~nanook/gallery.off/albums/userpics/10001/GusevCrater_organic.jpg)
(http://d38zt8ehae1tnt.cloudfront.net/PLANT_LIFE_ON_MARS__3616.jpg)
(http://www.puppstheories.com/forum/images/MarsCactusSM.jpg)
(http://socioecohistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/giant_plant_species_on_mars-treesmany-79k.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hCtXNDGAhxI/SL45pI3XNwI/AAAAAAAABmk/MfvSQvrMMkc/s400/mars%2Bvegetation%2B4.jpg)
(http://www.h3al.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/dune-mars.jpg)
(http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/18-nasa-north-polar-dunes.jpg)
(http://lightsinthedark.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/dunes.jpg)
(http://uanews.org/sites/default/files/styles/blog_image_large_600px_w/public/story-images/AwakeningDunes.jpg)
(http://uanews.org/sites/default/files/styles/blog_image_large_600px_w/public/story-images/FrostedDunes.jpg)
(http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/132/2-132-official-size.jpg)
Quote from: zorgon on August 15, 2012, 12:20:49 AM
Or here... my favorite spot :D
Mars Global Surveyor
MOC narrow-angle image AB1-08405
SOUTHEAST FLOOR OF WEST CANDOR CHASMA
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Structures/Diamond_001.png)
Here's a HiRISE photo of that area, at 25% zoom. :)
(click for full size)
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/ESP_011372_1730_RED1.png) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r66/armap/ESP_011372_1730_RED1.png)
Quote from: ArMaP on August 15, 2012, 05:09:04 PM
Didn't you see the higher resolution photos from that area? I think I posted one some time ago in another forum.
Oh I did :P The ones that NASA 'adjusted' to look more like rocks : They did that with the face and Cydonia pyramids too :D
Oh yeah? prove they didn't :P
Quote from: zorgon on August 25, 2012, 11:30:52 PM
Oh yeah? prove they didn't :P
Prove they didn't made the first photo like that to make some people look like fools when they would show how things really are. :P
Quote from: rdunk on August 15, 2012, 01:56:40 AMOf course, this is Mars, and there is nothing else on Mars, but rocks and sand. And, if you actually think there is something else there, then I would bring your family history into question, and your below average intelligence, because you are obviously lacking in the DNA area. And a lot of these others members seem to agree with me on this too.
Rocks and Sand huh?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Geysers_on_Mars.jpg/200px-Geysers_on_Mars.jpg)
Uh huh just keep on believing that like your other fantasy :P
(http://www.celestialmonochord.org/photos/uncategorized/esa_water_on_mars.jpg)
This?
Quote from: ArMaP on August 26, 2012, 12:49:43 AM
Prove they didn't made the first photo like that to make some people look like fools when they would show how things really are. :P
The latest picture from Mars :P
A new SPECTACULAR Image from the Mars Rover ::)
Well okay so SPECTACULAR is a little over kill...
Okay okay so is a LOT overkill :P
(http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00034/mhli/0034MH0067001000E1_DXXX.jpg)
Way to go NASA... such exciting scenery :P