what..?.. you've got to be kidding...
you would think with all the super expensive equipment they would know where they were at all times as wll as the other guys...
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A handout picture released by the U.S. Navy shows the damaged destroyer USS Porter following a collision with a bulk oil tanker in the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday.
US Navy ship collides with oil tanker in Gulf
By NBC News wire services
An oil tanker collided with a U.S. Navy destroyer near the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday but no one was hurt and shipping traffic in the waterway, through which 40 percent of the world's seaborne oil exports pass, was not affected, officials said.
"Both vessels are okay and the Strait of Hormuz is not closed, and business is as usual there," an Oman coast guard official told Reuters, declining to be named under briefing rules.
The collision nevertheless left a gaping hole in the starboard side of USS Porter, a guided-missile destroyer suffered, but no one was injured on either vessel, the U.S. Navy said in a statement. The collision with the Panamanian-flagged bulk oil tanker M/V Otowasan occurred at approximately 1 a.m. local time.
The cause of the incident is under investigation, the Navy said, adding that there were no reports of spills or leakages from either the USS Porter or the Otowasan.
US won't allow Iran to shut down Strait of Hormuz, Panetta vows
The USS Porter is on a scheduled deployment to the U.S. 5th Fleet, which is based in Bahrain.
The Strait of Hormuz, located at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, is where one-fifth of the world's oil is routed. Tensions have risen there over Iran's threats to block tanker traffic in retaliation for tighter sanctions by the West.
Three years ago, The USS Hartford, a nuclear-powered submarine based in Groton, Conn., collided in the Strait with the USS New Orleans, a San Diego-based amphibious ship.
The New Orleans' fuel tank was ruptured and 15 sailors on the Hartford sustained minor injuries. The collision caused $2.3 million in damage to the New Orleans, and the cost so far of repairs to the Hartford is $102.6 million.
Strait of Hormuz: Iranians, smugglers and fireworks
The commanding officer was relieved of his duties and the sub's chief of the boat, an adviser to the commanding officer, was reassigned. Several crew members were punished.
Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/12/13242239-us-navy-ship-collides-with-oil-tanker-in-gulf?lite
I saw this some hours ago, in PressTV. :)
Sheesh.... The first article I read on this just said the Destroyer had "been dented".
That's no dent, and that isn't going to be buffed out.
I'd love to read the USS Porter's Commanding Officer statement on just what happened. :o
Two big boats that don't just turn on a dime.
Quote from: WarToad on August 13, 2012, 02:33:02 PM
Sheesh.... The first article I read on this just said the Destroyer had "been dented".
That's no dent, and that isn't going to be buffed out.
I'd love to read the USS Porter's Commanding Officer statement on just what happened. :o
Two big boats that don't just turn on a dime.
Ahhh but the US Destroyer CAN turn on a dime.... and it has all the detection equipment American taxpayers can buy.
Arleigh Burke class Destroyer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzveUz-WRGQ
We're not being told the full story here are we.
C..
Pissed off tanker pilot? 8)
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Arleigh Burke class destroyer does have a double rudder design and it's turn radius is subject to speed, but even at a medium cruise I'd expect no less than 2000 meters for a 180 turn, it has no bow thrusters.
The actual turn radius is classified, but it's moot point, 505ft and 9,300 displacement tons do not turn on a dime, or city block.
But I do agree, we don't have the full story yet. It's just too soon, the info is still being gathered and vetted.
Quote from: WarToad on August 13, 2012, 05:32:54 PM
Arleigh Burke class destroyer does have a double rudder design and it's turn radius is subject to speed, but even at a medium cruise I'd expect no less than 2000 meters for a 180 turn, it has no bow thrusters.
The actual turn radius is classified, but it's moot point, 505ft and 9,300 displacement tons do not turn on a dime, or city block.
But I do agree, we don't have the full story yet. It's just too soon, the info is still being gathered and vetted.
The Arleigh Burke Destroyers have Controllable Pitch Propellers ... they do not need bow thrusters.
They can reverse thrust by changing pitch ... tight turns can and ARE achieved by reversing pitch to one of the propellers.
Did you even look at the video showing an Arleigh Burke class turning tightly at speed in less than 500 meters ?
C..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IF2t45CtEE
Quote from: Cosmic4life on August 13, 2012, 11:08:14 PM
The Arleigh Burke Destroyers have Controllable Pitch Propellers ... they do not need bow thrusters.
They can reverse thrust by changing pitch ... tight turns can and ARE achieved by reversing pitch to one of the propellers.
Did you even look at the video showing an Arleigh Burke class turning tightly at speed in less than 500 meters ?
C..
Nope. I only visit the site from work while jobs are being processed. Work firewalls off YouTube.(An most pic sites) What I get from this site is what is written. No video, no pics.
Quote from: WarToad on August 14, 2012, 02:24:59 AM
Nope. I only visit the site from work while jobs are being processed. Work firewalls off YouTube.(An most pic sites) What I get from this site is what is written. No video, no pics.
OK I'll let you off then... ;D
I've posted a video of an Arleigh Burke turning within 500m at about 20 - 25 knts...just so you know..those ships can indeed turn on a dime.
Why do you only visit the site from work ??
C..
Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2012, 12:02:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IF2t45CtEE
Just to add my two cents regarding that video which is not that expert on the high seas.
The Audio sounds right.
I've watched a ton load of Sea Shephard videos in Antartica and they sound the same as that vid.
For what its worth and all :'(