Here is the guy that killed 2 bigfoot taking a lie detector test. Judge for yourself. Samples from this kill are included in the Ketchum DNA study. If this story is true it will one of the biggest scientific discoveries in history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He8L98J80RA
Cosmo,
Thanks for the interesting link.
This seems like a very straightforward situation. No need for the lie detector test, since apparently he buried the body.
People keep deer heads, bear heads, etc. Just go dig the thing up and lets see it !
Kind of odd when you think about why he doesn't have the head, finger, toe...He is a hunter after all and used to shooting and skinning.
Andy
Hi Andy,
Well, the story goes that he was so shocked by their human qualities that he did not know what to do after he shot them and was afraid of prosecution by the law. He later went back and retrieved sample which are now part of Melba Ketchum's DNA study. I know it is hard to believe they exist, but I had some personal experiences in Humboldt county California, near Bluff Creek where the Patterson video was taken, and I just can't explain what happened by any other means. I considered bigfoot a legend up until that point. I do think it will be determined that they are our closest primate relatives, closer than apes and chimps. Ketchum's DNA results are supposed to be revealed soon and Oxford University is also conducting a DNA study.
Bigfoot, Yeti Hair Samples Requested for DNA Analysis at Oxford
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2012/05/bigfoot-yeti-hair-samples-requested-for-dna-analysis-at-oxford/
My experience was in 1981, before the internet, but since then I have read many reports and the number and consistency is pretty good evidence. Even better are the native american stories. They have known about them for a long time and consider them a primitive tribe, not apes. The native Americans I talked to in northern California believed they were real.
http://bfro.net/legends/
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i'll betcha a nickle that something happens to the samples and then he can't find
where he buried them
any takers.? :P
Quote from: sky otter on August 15, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
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i'll betcha a nickle that something happens to the samples and then he can't find
where he buried them
any takers.? :P
I betcha another nickel that you are right ;D
For the record I do believe Yetis are real ;)
do i believe they are real...?
hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
first i need to qualify that i don't know what a yeti is.. or really what a bigfoot is
only what some assume them to be
so i don't have a yes or no answer to that
but
i do know there is something out there and it doesn't want bothered
what it is.. i don't know
best answer i can give ya right now
;D
Thanks for the awesome post, this will be interesting as long as Tom Biscardi is not involved! :o
;D
When multiple cultures say the same thing... my bet its right!
Was trying to explain this to a super-junior skeptick at work today, which ofc was a waste of time but i was trying to help out a work buddy ;)
Its like the Big Cats in Oz. The Best proof of that is the genuine people that report seeing them...My Grandma has a reletive who has an awesome experience with that matter. And once again, just like my two real UFO sightings and what have you they are personal and people tend to believe what is on the daily news or the next false flag attack on the BMX track in London is going to be :D
Quote from: Primus58 on August 15, 2012, 09:37:43 PM
Thanks for the awesome post, this will be interesting as long as Tom Biscardi is not involved! :o
You right about that one!!!! Georgia a Huge disappointment !!
Soma
yeah.. lots of luck trying to explain to someone who has never encountered anything...
we live right beside the woods... i've walked , and ridden all over and have heard things that
can not be explained by what is supposed to be here...
what it is.. i don't know.. i haven't seen it..i have heard it...but to tell the tale
most folks just look at ya funny or buy you another brew...
sigh...whatever.. ;D
Quote from: sky otter on August 15, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
:(
i'll betcha a nickle that something happens to the samples and then he can't find
where he buried them
any takers.? :P
A full body drawing of the adult Bigfoot from the Justin Smeja Sierra Kills incident.
http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sierra-kills-bigfoot-drawing-2/
For those who have been following the Sierra Kills story, the results of the DNA test have apparently been leaked. Reportedly, eight independent labs have each confirmed that the DNA is non-human, but that of an "unknown primate." The results aren't official yet, but many in the cryptozoology community are quietly celebrating what may be the first scientific proof of the existence of Sasquatch.
The "Sierra Kills" story begins in October of 2010. A man named Justin Smeja and his friend were out bear hunting in the Sierras. (The location was later revealed as being near Gold Lake, CA.) Smeja says that he spotted what he thought was "a black bear standing on its hind legs and waving its arms in the air." He shot it, then spotted a second, smaller creature. He shot that one as well.
When Smeja and his friend approached the dead creatures, they discovered that they were not black bears but something that looked like "a cross between a gorilla and a bear." He became convinced that he had shot a mother Sasquatch and its child.
http://weirdanimalreport.com/comment/53285
List of purported samples accepted by Dr. Melba Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA Lab
1 slice of Bigfoot flesh from Sierra Buttes, California from the adult Bigfoot shot dead by Justin Smeja.
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/01/robert-lindsay-list-of-purported.html
Suspend your disbelief for a moment and ask yourself, what if such a creature really does exist? What a fascinating mystery! Hopefully soon we will have conclusive DNA evidence for their existence. If that happens, what then?
This is fantastic!! Great post if turns out this is all 100% its the greatest post ever!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8kNWpbFH6Y
Suspend your disbelief for a moment
cosmo.. i don't disbelieve..
and ask yourself, what if such a creature really does exist?
and i know something does exist.. i just don't know what
What a fascinating mystery! Hopefully soon we will have conclusive DNA evidence for their existence. If that happens, what then?
what then... they will really be hunted..that's what then
Quote from: sky otter on August 15, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Suspend your disbelief for a moment
cosmo.. i don't disbelieve..
and ask yourself, what if such a creature really does exist?
and i know something does exist.. i just don't know what
What a fascinating mystery! Hopefully soon we will have conclusive DNA evidence for their existence. If that happens, what then?
what then... they will really be hunted..that's what then
I value native American theories. I think they may know best. I am not sure what they are either, but the human evolutionary tree has become a bush!
For anthropology students 30 years ago, learning human evolution was a breeze. It went from Australopithecus to Homo habilis to Homo erectus to various Homo sapiens. It was a straight shot that one could learn in a few minutes late at night while cramming for an exam.
But in the late 1970s, we entered a golden age of human fossil discoveries that has repeatedly punched holes in the naive idea that our evolution would be that clear, clean, and straight.
Like most animals, humans have a checkered past, and our family album is now full of side branches and dead ends. And it's populated with creatures, such as the little people (Homo floresiensis) of Flores Island in Indonesia, that we could never have imagined in our wildest dreams.
The straight line has blossomed into a spreading, rather uncontrolled bush and we don't like it. We want our history to be nice and neat, but the fossils keep messing us up.
This summer, scientists announced the discovery of two human fossils found in Kenya in 2000. One is a 1.44 million-year-old Homo habilis, the first member of our genus, and the other is a 1.55 million-year-old Homo erectus, a larger brained, much more sophisticated kind of human.
Although paleoanthropologsts have assumed that habilis evolved into erectus, it looks like these creatures spent time together on the shores of Lake Tanganika.
The big news, then, is that these very different fossils are being hung on the human family tree on separate branches but at the same height. And once again, we have to reconsider the path of human evolution.
http://www.livescience.com/7376-human-family-tree-tangled-messy-bush.html
If they exist now, they should be in the fossil record. Here are two candidates:
Information on the internet and elsewhere talks about giant humans or giant apemen existing in the past, or even in the present (e.g. Bigfoot). Is there any fossil evidence supporting these claims? Often the names Meganthropus and Gigantopithecus are mentioned as supporting evidence that giants lived in the past. Fossils have been attributed to these supposed 'species', which have been described in publications. Let's try to sort out fact from fiction about the 'giant' claims in regards to the Meganthropus and Gigantopithecus fossils, as well as assess their place in human origins.
http://creation.com/giants-in-the-land-an-assessment-of-gigantopithecus-and-meganthropus
So, that brings us to humans. We are most familiar with Homo sapiens. Most individuals are under 6 feet tall, and those few that are over 7 feet are forced to play basketball. There have always been legends and myths about giant people, such as Goliath, but those tales are generally written off as fantasy. We are also familiar with the Neanderthals, as well as Homo erectus and its ilk. Most of the other hominids, if not all, apparently were even shorter than we are, and they apparently were not coordinated enough to hit 3-point shots from the perimeter. So, why is it that so many of the present animals in the world had undergone evolutionary tryouts for giant versions, yet we never hear about giant human relatives? Even the apes had their own version. Why was there no race of giants? Well, actually, there was!
In 1941, the first fossiled remains of Meganthropus was found in Java, Indonesia. The jawbone was from a human-like creature (not ape-like, such as Gigantopithecus) that was larger than any present day human or gorilla. Using subsequent finds to extrapolate, it is estimated that Meganthropus could have been almost 9 feet tall, and would have weighed about 1,000 pounds. For perspective, this means that, on tippy-toes, its head would have touched the bottom of a basketball hoop.
http://newundersol.blogspot.com/2010/07/there-be-giants.html
Anthropologist's reconstruction of Gigantopithecus from existing fossil evidence:
(http://iloveprimates.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Gigantopithecus.7834526_std.jpg)
http://blog.infochimps.com/2011/08/05/gigantopithecus-other-huge-data-apes/
Giants ARE in the fossil record and if they still exist today, it should be a crime to kill one.
Here's a pic to give an idea of the size of Meganthropus.
(http://rephaim23.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/meganthropus-heidelbergensis-giant.jpg)
http://rephaim23.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/meganthropus-x-resurrecting-the-mega-man-of-java/
Here is an artist sketch of a sighting by a member of the U. S. Army in Georgia:
(http://www.bfro.net/REF/IMAGES/GA_bf_manscale.JPG)
(http://www.bfro.net/REF/IMAGES/GA_bf_face.JPG)
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/CNTS/GA/RM/ga_rm001.htm
An enlargement of the Patterson bigfoot Patty:
(http://fob.l7space.com/articles/face-patty.jpg)
Artist enhanced Patty face:
(http://sasquatch-pg.net/index_files/home_files/patti-photo-enhancement.jpg)
Bigfoot sneaks into workout facility!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwE2aOdXt8k
Oregon Bigfoot is Autumn Williams' site. She has the best sightings database that I'm aware of, her website is very thorough. This link takes you to one particular artist within her site, Paul Smith: http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/artists/paul_smith.php (http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/artists/paul_smith.php)
I really enjoyed her book, "Enoch," which is supposedly a true account of a long term witness in Florida.
Some of the recordings at Oregonbigfoot are chilling.
LOL, I like the Jack Links commercials, also the movie Harry and the Hendersons with John Lithgow.
Quote from: Primus58 on August 16, 2012, 11:32:42 PM
Oregon Bigfoot is Autumn Williams' site. She has the best sightings database that I'm aware of, her website is very thorough. This link takes you to one particular artist within her site, Paul Smith: http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/artists/paul_smith.php (http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/artists/paul_smith.php)
I really enjoyed her book, "Enoch," which is supposedly a true account of a long term witness in Florida.
Some of the recordings at Oregonbigfoot are chilling.
LOL, I like the Jack Links commercials, also the movie Harry and the Hendersons with John Lithgow.
Sweet! Yes I like Autumn's site and have read every report there! I have not read Enoch. So it's based on a true account? I did not know that. Yeah, that Jack Links commercial was good for a belly laugh! I loved Harry and the Hendersons also and have it on dvd. Here is the scariest audio of bigfoot I have ever heard. Notice the dog. He does not want to bark or go chase it whatever it is! That is common in reports where dogs are involved. They do not want to have anything to do with BF. The volume and duration are kind of shocking!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XF10HVcoHo
Quote from: sky otter on August 15, 2012, 09:29:51 PM
first i need to qualify that i don't know what a yeti is..
yeti....
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AOPyQ0xQseQ/TpRxhddFEeI/AAAAAAAAARA/Ccef6xPDsQ0/s400/yeti.jpg)
combine these to sounds and you'll be close..that crazy laUGHING SOUND IS THE KEY
http://www.geolution.nl/dieren/dierengeluiden/download/hyena_1.wav
hyena
then go to
http://www.4uall.net/free-sound-effects/Animal-Music-free-sound-effects/COUGAR_2.WAV
cougar
from here
http://www.findsounds.com/ISAPI/search.dll
Quote from: sky otter on August 17, 2012, 12:48:25 AM
combine these to sounds and you'll be close..that crazy laUGHING SOUND IS THE KEY
http://www.geolution.nl/dieren/dierengeluiden/download/hyena_1.wav
hyena
then go to
http://www.4uall.net/free-sound-effects/Animal-Music-free-sound-effects/COUGAR_2.WAV
cougar
from here
http://www.findsounds.com/ISAPI/search.dll
Combined with this maybe?
And this is a bigfoot! lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28zXvk9kBBc
Here's some interesting audio. I don't know if it could be human and it does sound like a language.
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/08/10-extraordinary-questions-with-ron.html#moretop
Scroll down for the audio files...
Ron Morehead is the father of the "Bigfoot Sounds". The recordings are one of the most important evidence supporting the existence of Sasquatch. During the early 1970s, Morehead and his long time friend Al Berry went into the woods of the Sierra Nevada Mountains in eastern California and collected a series of alleged Bigfoot vocalizations that sounded like "samurais" talking. This compilation of vocalizations is now called the "Sierra Sounds" and it has been confirmed by language expert Scott Nelson as Bigfoot language.
Ron Nelson is a crypto-linguist who is retired from the Navy.
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/01/listen-to-bigfoot-language-expert-scott.html
Here's some interesting audio. I don't know if it could be human and it does sound like a language.
ohh wait... you missed one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28zXvk9kBBc
I just love that movie!
Here's some more on Nelson:
R. Scott Nelson is a retired U.S. Navy Crypto-Linguist with over 30 years experience in Foreign Language and Linguistics, including the Collection, Transcription, Analysis and Reporting of voice communications.
He is a two time graduate of the U.S. Navy Cryptologic Voice Transcription School (Russian and Spanish) and has logged thousands of hours of voice transcription in his target languages as well as in Persian. He is currently teaching Russian, Spanish, Persian, Philosophy and Comparative Religions at Wentworth College in Missouri.
His pertinent Curriculum Vitae Follows:
R. Scott Nelson
Curriculum Vitae
Eleven years on the Faculty of Philosophy and Languages at Wentworth College,
Lexington, Missouri; teaching Russian, Persian and Spanish as well several Philosophy and Religion courses.
Retired U.S. Navy Cryptologic Technician Interpreter (Crypto-Linguist), worked for Naval Intelligence at the following duty stations: Naval Security Group Activity (NSGA), Rota, Spain; Naval Security Group Detachment Galeta Island, Panama; NSGA Homestead, Florida; NSGA Edzell, Scotland and aboard the following afloat units:
USS Coronado, USS Belknap, USS Deyo, USS Bigelow, USS Sphynx; serving in the Atlantic Ocean, Indian Ocean, Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea and Persian Gulf.
Two time graduate of the Defense Language Institute, Foreign Language Center, Monterey, California (Russian and Spanish).
Two time graduate of the U.S. Navy Cryptologic Voice Transcription School at Naval Security Group Detachment (NSGD), San Angelo, Texas (Russian and Spanish).
Graduate of U.S. Navy Communications Intelligence Analysis and Reporting School at NSGD, San Angelo, Texas.
Acquired the Persian Language while assigned to afloat platforms in the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf. These platforms had Persian as their primary target language.
Logged thousands of hours of collection and transcription of voice communications as a Cryptologic Interpreter for the U.S. Navy.
http://www.nabigfootsearch.com/Bigfootlanguage.html
Link has his written report. He IS a well trained expert in his field.
(http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/scott-10.jpg)
Scott Nelson Crypto-Linguist
http://www.bigfootsounds.com/experts-point-of-view/r-scott-nelson/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue6ZWzhaad4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeqWTsXSOFM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5T8BGDoe_I
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWZQynrIG6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xRAePEDMzM
Two more good sites.
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/
Bobby Short has been doing this for like 30-40 yrs. She usually has the inside track on things, if it's for public consumpton ;)
http://www.nabigfootsearch.com/bigfootblog.html
as well with David Paulides.
Back to sticking sock in mouth... ;)