Pegasus Research Consortium

Sorry, i tried to split a topic & i fudged it up.

So i will simply start a new one here. The title is self-explanatory, i think.
We are going to form a team, each will have their own tasks, or angles on this project.



That's why the original thread was 'materials & methods' and that thread will continue, but i want our 'inner circle' team to be at work on it.

Meanwhile, i accidentally deleted a comment from Steve, so here it is again;

QuoteI don't know about the xray machine parts but they were still there last time I looked.

Also, G-man said there is a lot of BaTi in the DeLonghi space heater.

I also remember someone saying (and a while back me proving..) that a microwave oven makes a really good improvised Kiln... 

FB.

A very relevant post, and one i almost lost, silly me :-[

Wait 1, i have to remember what i just deleted, & type it in again...

Thanks, Andy for posting thoes notebooks,:

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2393.0 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2393.0)

Okay so that thread is going to deal with an analysis of those notebooks.

Here we are going to form teams to handle the technical side of gravitor construction, materials, plans, power supplies etc. And preferably here, where it's quiet LOL

As you can see, we have 3 types of gravitor,the cone (early experiments) the series & parallel plate types.

Using Brown & Kitselman as a guide (not to mention the remarkable info i have recieved from many of you) we can start on replicating gravitors.
They don't have to be gold & Hafnium, they can be made from lighter elements.
We can compensate for the lower K & lighter mass by using 3 methods:

Geometry. Study the best shape for the plate/dielectric, with reference to a high field gradient.

Voltage. Step up the voltage for the higher field gradient.

Frequency. Make the pulses HF sawtooth waveforms, possibly applied via microwave beam.

As youy can see, we have plenty to deal with, i would still like to use BaTio nano-powder for the discs.
(yes we can go for discs, the cones are for testing dielectric response, we already know that BaTiO has the best response).

And we now know what materials are available for the plates.

Those pictures on the 'mikado' thread show a parallel gravitor, but i am going to build a series one, for my own reasons.
I would like you guys to ponder the parallel design (as shown), cones, geometry, and power supplies able to meet the above specs.

More to come, when i can remember it all & find time to type it in...
::)

Reply to Dave, from the Mikado thread;

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2377.15;topicseen (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2377.15;topicseen)

Re; Mikado.
For what it's worth, i never had an issue with him. We had some interesting chats, and he struck me as someone who had intimate knoweledge of this research, and of Linda.
Of course, i had to take his claim with a pinch of salt at first, since most of what he told me has alreadt been posted on this & other sites.
The claims may well be true, i have no way of knowing.
It would be nice to see some diagrams & performance graphs etc.but it's not that important.
We have enough data to proceed further :)

About the discs, Dave;
(From Channel's page)

QuoteAll common and custom geometric forms of piezoelectric ceramics are available including: plates, blocks, tubes, discs, etc. We offer these piezoceramic products in the following material choices: Navy I thru VI, barium titanate, lead zirconate titanate (PZT), as well as, custom materials. We provide piezoceramic elements for operation in D33 compression mode, D31 length mode, and D15 shear mode. Platings are offered in silver, copper, nickel, and gold and may be ordered in complete surface or selective coats.

http://www.channelproducts.com/cpi_page.asp?h=Piezoelectric Ceramics&xparam=product&iProdID=5&iGroup=Piezoelectric Ceramics (http://www.channelproducts.com/cpi_page.asp?h=Piezoelectric%20Ceramics&xparam=product&iProdID=5&iGroup=Piezoelectric%20Ceramics)
So what mode do we need?
I believe it has to do with crystalline orientation.
Should we go for 'compression' mode?, or should we first look into those 'modes' & how they work, and what properties we would need for gravitators?

(And don't tell them you need it for gravitors, say it's for a HV electrostatic speaker LOL)

I would like to try for a series unit, so this would need 200-300 discs, about .025 inch (about 0.7mm?) thick, and 1 or 2 inches in diameter. In any case no thicker than .05 Inch (1.5mm)
Kitselman stated you would need plates .002 inch thick, giving 33 plates per inch, at 100KV, but i would prefer thicker plates (& dielectrics) meaning a longer gravitor, which can take much higher voltages, and is physically more robust. It should also have a lower frequency of operation.

We would also need a bevelled edge, OR we could use different sized discs, to make a conical shape (but that may be very expensive)...

Remember, according to Kitselman's papers, we would need the plate to be 1/2 the thickness of the dielectric.
Ideally the plate would be Osmium, Iridium, or a Platinum/Iridium alloy.
Tungsten, lead, Tantalum may also be tried, but i would rather aim as high in that table as possible.... ::)

Cheers!
Luke