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Title: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 02:32:11 AM
Mothman

(http://www.viewzone.com/mothman.jpg)

The following us reprinted by permission  from Viewzone...

By Gary David for Viewzone

From late 1966 though late 1967 the small town of Point Pleasant, West Virginia along the Ohio River was terrorized by a series of sightings of an uncanny creature that became known as Mothman. He was typically described as a broad-shouldered black or gray humanoid at least seven feet in height with moth-like wings that extended about ten feet. His glowing red eyes seemed to have a hypnotic effect. Sometimes the creature appeared headless, with round, reflective eyes set into his shoulders.


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Artist's sketch of one variation of Mothman.

The eerie entity would reportedly swoop down on people or cars and chase them at very high speeds. Sometimes it would suddenly shoot straight up in the air and completely disappear. The same period saw increased sightings of luminous balls or other UFOs and unexpected appearances of Men In Black.

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This 12-foot-high, stainless steel statue of the Mothman located in Point Pleasant, West Virginia was created by artist Robert Roach.

Were all these sightings of Mothman and other anomalous incidents just a weird precursor to the brief psychedelic era in popular culture when hallucinations and altered states of consciousness became the norm? Or are there precedents for this phenomenon in the distant past?

Cut to the high plain of central New Mexico in about 1350 AD. On the western bank of a turbulent, muddy river we see a flat-topped pyramid where a bizarre ritual is taking place. It involves a ring of elders wearing feathered headdresses, geometric medallions, white sashes, and brightly painted capes. Some are holding round shields and eagle-talon staffs.

At the center stands a tall being with the gray wings and coiled proboscis of the night flying hawk moth. One of the elders raises a woven plaque heaped with tiny black and yellow seeds and brown spiny pods. The participants begin to eat the seeds, while low chants punctuated by a lone cottonwood drum rise into the endless desert night.

An uncertain period passes as dizzy heads spin in swirling silver smoke. The creature then extends his massive wings and rockets high above the lone pyramid. He soars over whispering cornfields and circles the bulwark of the pueblo. Suddenly in a burst of purple light the Mothman disappears into gauzy clouds while moths flutter gently over jimsonweed blossoms glowing ghostlike in silent moonlight.


Quote One of the most striking aspects of murals is the variety of brilliant colors: eight shades of red, three of yellow, two of green, two of blue, as well as purple, lavender, maroon, orange, pink, salmon, white, gray, and outlines of black. From three to 38 layers of plaster, each one providing a visual space for the paintings, were found on the kiva walls. Thus, the total prehistoric murals numbered about 800!

Some murals seem to have been plastered, painted, and then re-plastered after just a couple days when their ritual purpose had been fulfilled. This practice is similar to the destruction of Navajo sand paintings or Tibetan mandalas at the conclusion of certain sacred ceremonies.

Among the plethora of images are non-indigenous green parrots and scarlet macaws, which also suggest a wide trade network with Mexico. One fresco even depicts a jaguar and an eagle, which may refer to the ancient Mexican jaguar-eagle cult. Another shows a rattlesnake superimposed on an "eagle-man." Just add a cactus and you'd have the traditional symbol for Mexico.

One disturbing image shows an unfortunate man painted purple with a red equilateral, outlined cross on his chest being eaten by a horned serpent with sharp teeth and a feathered ruff. This creature is, of course, the archetypal plumed serpent named Quetzalcoatl. Another mural shows a horned serpent with a zigzag body cradling a four-pointed star with a circular face at the center. This star-face (which, by the way, is frowning) supposedly signifies a "soul-face," possibly the soul of a warrior killed in battle. (See painting below.)

Some of the most unusual murals, however, are those that depict what we today call the Mothman. One shows the creature with a red body, white sash, black kilt with geometric designs, and a red headdress. His translucent wings are crosshatched and painted with a few lavender spots. One wing's lower edge has three red spots on a white jagged background.

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Mothman mural.
Pink-spotted hawk moth on a jimsonweed bloom.[/i][/b]

The other figure in basically the same pose has a yellow body and a brown and yellow headdress. This one has star symbols on his wings and a couple of dragonfly symbols beneath him. With his left hand he is grasping a lightning bolt emanating from a bowl balanced on a maiden's head. (She is not seen in the this picture, but she is, by the way, holding a macaw in each hand.) Both of the Mothman figures have a coiled or curved proboscis.

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Another Mothman mural.

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Sphinx moth.

What prompted the depiction of this strange human-insect hybrid? One of the archaeological interns who originally excavated Pottery Mound and helped to copy its murals has put forth an intriguing theory. In a poster presentation at the Society for American Archaeology conference, March 2005 in Salt Lake City, Utah, independent researcher and anthropologist Paul T. Kay provided some interesting links between the night flying hawk moth (Manduca sexta, also called sphinx moth) and the Datura plant. "There exists a mutualistic relationship in nature between the hawk moth and the Datura plant. ALL of this is related to the widespread ritualistic use of Datura during SHAMANISTIC practices..." [3] The pink-spotted hawk moth (Agrius cingulata) may also have been intended.

Datura wrightii is known as devil's weed, thorn apple, or jimsonweed. The latter term is a corruption of "Jamestown weed," after the Virginia colony where Europeans first unwittingly ingested a similar species. This perennial grows throughout the American Southwest in open land with well-drained soil. Its nocturnally blooming, white trumpet-shaped flowers are pollinated by the hummingbird-sized hawk moth, which inserts its long proboscis into the fragrant flower tube to reach the profuse nectar.

Kay furthermore believes that the classic plumed serpent traditionally depicted on ceramics, murals, and rock art is actually the instar, or larva, of this moth. The only problem with this part of Kay's theory, however, is that the 'horn' is at the posterior, not the head. Ancient Pottery Mound inhabitants would surely have known this.


(http://www.viewzone.com/mothman10.jpg)
Mural of star-face and horned serpent with feather ruff.

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Hawk moth larva.

http://www.viewzone.com/mothman.html

(http://www.viewzone.com/mothman18.jpg)
Pot with painted moth from the ruins of Puaray, located on the southern edge of the modern town of Bernalillo, New Mexico, a little over 40 miles north of Pottery Mound. Occupied between 1300 and some time prior to 1680 AD, Puaray was known as the "Pueblo of the Worm" (or "Insect"), which may refer to the hawk moth larva. This whole region, then, may have been the domain of Mothman.

(http://www.viewzone.com/mothman19.jpg)
Top view of Hopi "butterfly vase." The six insects are actually moths, which represent the four directions plus the zenith and nadir.

Copyright © 2008 by Gary A. David. All rights reserved.

Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 02:33:08 AM
Mothman

(http://mothmen.us/point_pleasant_photos/mothma21.jpg)

QuoteMothman is a legendary creature reportedly seen in the Point Pleasant area of West Virginia from 15 November 1966 to 15 December 1967. The first newspaper report was published in the Point Pleasant Register dated 16 November 1966, entitled "Couples See Man-Sized Bird...Creature...Something".

Mothman was introduced to a wider audience by Gray Barker in 1970, later popularized by John Keel in his 1975 book The Mothman Prophecies, claiming that Mothman was related to a wide array of supernatural events in the area and the collapse of the Silver Bridge. The 2002 film The Mothman Prophecies, starring Richard Gere, was based on Keel's book.

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History

QuoteOn Nov. 15, 1966, two young couples from Point Pleasant, Roger and Linda Scarberry, and Steve and Mary Mallette told police they saw a large white creature whose eyes "glowed red" when the car headlights picked it up. They described it as a "flying man with ten foot wings" following their car while they were driving in an area of town known as 'the TNT area', the site of a former World War II munitions plant.

During the next few days, other people reported similar sightings. Two volunteer firemen who sighted it said it was a "large bird with red eyes". Mason County Sheriff George Johnson commented that he believed the sightings were due to an unusually large heron he termed a "poopepoke". Contractor Newell Partridge told Johnson that when he aimed a flashlight at a creature in a nearby field its eyes glowed "like bicycle reflectors", and blamed buzzing noises from his television set and the disappearance of his German Shepherd dog on the creature. Wildlife biologist Dr. Robert L. Smith at West Virginia University told reporters that descriptions and sightings all fit the Sandhill Crane, a large American crane almost as high as a man with a seven foot wingspan featuring circles of reddish coloring around the eyes, and that the bird may have wandered out of its migration route.

There were no Mothman reports in the immediate aftermath of the December 15, 1967 collapse of the Silver Bridge and the death of 46 people, giving rise to legends that the Mothman sightings and the bridge collapse were connected.
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Claims of later sightings

QuoteUFOlogist Jerome Clark writes that many years after the initial events, members of the Ohio UFO Investigators League re-interviewed several people who claimed to have seen Mothman, all of whom insisted their stories were accurate. Linda Scarberry claimed that she and her husband had seen Mothman "hundreds of times," sometimes at close range, commenting, "It seems like it doesn't want to hurt you. It just wants to communicate with you."

Cryptozoologist Loren Coleman claims that sightings of Mothman continue, and told USA Today he re-interviewed witnesses described in Keel's book who said Mothman was "a huge creature about 7 feet tall with huge wings and red eyes" and that "they could see the creature flapping right behind them" as they fled from it.[/size][/color]

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Explanations

Paranormal


QuoteSome UFologists, paranormal authors, and cryptozoologists believe that Mothman was an alien, a supernatural manifestation, or an unknown cryptid. In his 1975 book The Mothman Prophecies, author John Keel claimed that the Point Pleasant residents experienced precognitions including premonitions of the collapse of the Silver Bridge, unidentified flying object sightings, visits from mysterious or threatening men in black, and other bizarre phenomena. However, Keel has been criticized for distorting established data, and for gullibility.

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Skeptical

QuoteSkeptic Joe Nickell says that a number of hoaxes followed the publicity generated by the original reports, such as a group of construction workers who tied red flashlights to helium balloons. Nickell attributes the Mothman reports to pranks, misidentified planes, and sightings of a barred owl, an albino owl, or perhaps a large snowy owl, suggesting that the Mothman's "glowing eyes" were actually red-eye effect caused from the reflection of light from flashlights or other bright light sources.

Folklorist Jan Harold Brunvand notes that Mothman has been widely covered in the popular press, some claiming sightings connected with UFOs, and others claiming that a military storage site was Mothman's "home". Brunvand notes that recountings of the 1966-67 Mothman reports usually state that at least 100 people saw Mothman with many more "afraid to report their sightings", but observed that written sources for such stories consisted of children's books or sensationalized or undocumented accounts that fail to quote identifiable persons. Brunvand found elements in common among many Mothman reports and much older folk tales, suggesting that something real may have triggered the scares and became woven with existing folklore. He also records anecdotal tales of Mothman supposedly attacking the roofs of parked cars inhabited by teenagers in lovers lanes.

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Festivals and statue

QuotePoint Pleasant held its first Annual Mothman Festival in 2002 and a 12-foot-tall metallic statue of the creature, created by artist and sculptor Bob Roach, was unveiled in 2003. The Mothman Museum and Research Center opened in 2005 and is run by Jeff Wamsley. The Festival is a weekend-long event held on the 3rd weekend of every September. There are a variety of events that go on during the festival such as guest speakers, vendor exhibits, and hayride tours focusing on the notable areas of Point Pleasant.

Mothman From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 06:07:11 AM
Point Pleasant, Mason County
W. Virginia Sightings


Newspaper Clippings and Eye Witness Accounts

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(http://mothmen.us/point_pleasant_photos/mothma18.gif)

(http://mothmen.us/point_pleasant_photos/mothma76.gif)

(http://mothmen.us/mothman-images/mothma6.gif)

(http://mothmen.us/mothman-images/mothma18.jpg)

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(http://mothmen.us/point_pleasant_photos/mothma174.jpg)

Source: Mothman US (http://mothmen.us/mothman-images_photo-gallery.htm)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 06:14:05 AM
Point Pleasant, Mason County
W. Virginia Sightings


Eyewitness Sketches

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(http://mothmen.us/mothman-images/mothma31.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/mothman-images/mothma12.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/museum-mothman03.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/museum-mothman01.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/point_pleasant_photos/mothma25.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/point_pleasant_photos/mothma45.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/museum-mothman02.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/museum-mothman04.jpg)

Source: Mothman US (http://mothmen.us/mothman-images_photo-gallery.htm)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 06:17:21 AM
(http://mothmen.us/mothman-images/mothma38.jpg)

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QuoteThe Loren Coleman sketch is above.  Below is a scan of the Thunderbird artifact from the book The New England Indians by C. Keith Wilbur.  It may also be found in The Western Abenaki by Colin Calloway.

(http://mothmen.us/mothman-images/mothma64.jpg)

Source: Mothman US (http://mothmen.us/mothman-images_photo-gallery.htm)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 06:26:43 AM
Manananggal
Another Mothman?


(http://www.mythicalrealm.com/UserFiles/Image/Blog/Manananggal.jpg)

QuoteFrom the folklore of the Philippines there is another winged creature called the Manananggal that terrorizes the Visayan islands. Locals hang large amounts of garlic around their houses as a deterrent which brings to mind vampires.

With the face and body of an older woman, and  features leathery wings.  According to local legend, is able to detach its torso and fly away leaving its legs behind. The severed lower torso is left standing and it is said to be the more vulnerable of the two halves. Sprinkling salt or smearing crushed garlic or ash on top of the standing torso is fatal to the creature. The upper torso then would not be able to rejoin and will die at daybreak.

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QuoteKnown to feed on pregnant women, using a proboscis-like tongue to suck out the hearts of fetuses or the blood of an unsuspecting, sleeping victim. Legend also says the manananggals propagate themselves by spewing a black chick into someone's mouth.

Per legend, those infected by a manananggal, can dispel the chick inside by hanging you upside down from a tree and fumigating you, or they could spin you round and round until you vomit the chick.

Like most entrenched legends, this one appears to have been elaborately embellished.  However, at its root is the winged monster that has appeared to many Filipinos.

(http://mothmen.us/more_monster_images/manana27.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/more_monster_images/manana29.jpg)

(http://mothmen.us/more_monster_images/manana30.jpg)
Manananggal Plush Toy

Source: Mothman US (http://mothmen.us/manananggal.htm)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 06:33:55 AM
Unknown Story

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(http://mothmen.us/mothman-images/mothma63.jpg)

Source: Mothman US (http://mothmen.us/mothman-images_photo-gallery.htm)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 06:43:23 AM
(http://mothmen.us/mothman-images/mothma103.jpg)
Remains of "Mothman" found in 2001 near the remains of 3 children that disappeared in 1986

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Said to me a previous Mothman

(http://mothmen.us/point_pleasant_photos/mothma93.jpg)
Ms. Johnson's composite image from Greenup County Ohio 1986

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Mothman footprint from Greenup County Ohio 1986

Source: Mothman US (http://mothmen.us/mothman-images_photo-gallery.htm)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 24, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
(http://www.daviddeen.com/artwork/MB_mothman.jpg)
© iKids Inc 2006

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These drawing are from eyewitnesses that were used in the movie
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on August 26, 2012, 09:43:32 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=812;type=avatar)   Sky Otter



March 18, 2011

    Mysterious Winged Creature Reported In Pennsylvania
    Butler County, early morning
    From Researcher: Stan Gordon
    www.stangordon.info (http://stangordon.info/sightings.htm)


Quote    On March 21, 2011, I was contacted by a witness who reported having an encounter with a very strange creature during the early morning hours of March 18, 2011. The incident occurred on a rural road in Butler County between Chicora and East Brady. The witness, a businessman passing through the area, stated that "this was the freakiest thing I ever saw, and it made the hair stand up on the back of my neck."

    The man told me that he was driving down the road when from about a ¼ mile away, he observed something on the right side in a grassy area. His first thought was that it was a deer. The driver stepped on the gas to move closer to get a better view. From about 50 yards away, he observed something that appeared to be hunched down, and then stood up. The driver then observed a very tall muscular creature.

    At this point, the driver had his high beams on and watched as the creature walked in front of a yellow reflective road sign, then crossed the two lane road in three long steps and continued into a wooded area. What he saw was a humanoid figure that stood at least 8 feet tall that appeared to have smooth leather-like skin that was of either a darker tan or light brown color.

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This sketch of the winged creature used with permission of the witness

    The creature never looked at the witness, and was only observed from its side. The head appeared to be flat in the front section, and then rounded out. "At the top back of skull, it was like one of those aerodynamic helmets. The top was not quite a point, but looked like a ridge on top of the head." The face was flat, and the eyes were not clearly defined, but the man thought that they might have been pointed in the corner. The ear that was observed on the left side was long and flat, and came up and back and was pointed backwards like a flap.

    The arms were muscular and a little longer than that of a human. The hands looked more like a claw, but the number of fingers was unclear. One physical trait that stood out were the extremely muscular legs. The witness stated that it was hard to explain, but the legs did not move like that of a human, and "looked like they bent backwards." The witness also saw what appeared to be wings on its back which were tucked into its body, with the wing tips extending toward the side of its head.

    No unusual sounds or smells where noticed during the observation which was estimated to have been about 7-8 seconds. As the motorist approached the location where the creature entered the woods, it could no longer be seen. The next day the witness decided to drive back to the location of the encounter to look for any evidence. The ground conditions were not suitable for tracks, and nothing was found. The witness did, however, measure the road sign that the creature had walked in front of. The sign was just over 8 feet high, and the head of the creature was estimated to have reached about 4 inches above the sign.

Mysterious Winged Creature Reported In Pennsylvania (http://stangordon.info/sightings.htm)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on September 02, 2013, 04:14:00 AM
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No source yet...
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: sky otter on September 02, 2013, 03:09:02 PM

a lot of the pics aren't showing


that last shot looks like europe..too clean for here..(sadly)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: Gigas on September 02, 2013, 07:28:25 PM
Supernaturally Occult and beyond the human mind to interpret and accept.

Chicago had a bat like mothman roaming the skies over 63rd and pulaski in August 2011.


(http://s16.postimg.org/pso8tp6fp/Bat_Creature.jpg)


Lets have a closer look see


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Quotemy wife and me were going by this Indian on August 22nd 2011 at about 2:00pm I decided to get a picture of this. I just got new smartphone and I wanted to check out how good the camera would work. So I got out of the car and went to the spot and took about four pictures of this Indian. So we left and went home and later on that night I went to look at the pictures I took. When I was checking these photos out, in one of the pictures I notice the object that was on the backside of Indian. At first I didn't think nothing of it, I figured it was plane or something. But just for the heck of it I enlarged it. It looked something similar to a bird or a bat, but then again it doesn't. So I have no idea what it could be.



Than, a much weirder story came out from Chicago of an even more bizzare creature peeping third story windows with girls undressed followed by screams and shock. This one is really weird as it follows the original story of the bat like mothman from above.

The victim(s) states:

QuoteShe was getting dressed and when she turned to face the mirror on her dresser, she saw a pair of orange eyes staring at her from the window. She turned around to see two brightly lit orange eyes staring out at her; these eyes were attached to a creature that was staring back at her through the window. My friend lost it and started screaming hysterically and backed herself into the corner. She said she was filled with this overwhelming feeling of complete and total terror, she felt like the creature was looking at her as though she was prey. She said she felt like a rabbit that was about to be pounced upon by an eagle.


http://www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2011/10/photo-2nd-mothman-bat-like-object.html
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: Gigas on September 02, 2013, 07:33:15 PM
Few months later another story comes out of batman or mothman flying overhead in chicago.


http://www.phantomsandmonsters.com/2011/10/3rd-mothman-bat-like-object-reported.html
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: Somamech on September 02, 2013, 07:38:02 PM
I keep hearing about this from time to time !

Wonder if Brandon Lee and The Crow fit any bill in this sotry ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSzo-F9fIbU
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: Gigas on September 02, 2013, 08:11:02 PM
Quote from: Somamech on September 02, 2013, 07:38:02 PM
I keep hearing about this from time to time !

Wonder if Brandon Lee and The Crow fit any bill in this sotry ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSzo-F9fIbU


Thats odd, My sisters daughter married a guy named Eric from sweden and they had a son together named Draven. Both are goth and live upper sweden, way upper.


(http://s17.postimg.org/aj6dwwhkv/ericdraven.jpg)
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: zorgon on September 23, 2013, 06:51:24 PM
A Baby MOTHMAN?

From Venesuela

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Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: Amaterasu on September 23, 2013, 08:00:53 PM
A stuffed toy?
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: DLensman on May 09, 2014, 04:43:43 PM
I do believe that the mothman is a real creature. What I do wonder is what dimension from whence it comes.  I do believe our time isn't constant and ripples can take place between us and and them. This theory could also explain how many go people go missing each year and never leave a trace...
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: sky otter on May 09, 2014, 06:49:02 PM



btw

that's a poodle moth    ;D   if anyone wants to look for more info on it
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: astr0144 on October 09, 2014, 12:45:17 AM
This is an Unsolved Mysteries article about the Mothman...

I just watched the program about it...and found it very unusual...Many people claimed to have witnessed it and even the "Men In Black" were said to be involved in contacting some witnesses..

There were suggestions that it was created  from a Government experiment..

Unfortunately I cannot find a copy of it on Video to post.  :(


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Case File: Mothman

Location: Point Pleasant, West Virginia

Date: November 15, 1966 to December 15, 1967

Description: Point Pleasant is a city in Mason County, West Virginia, United States, at the confluence of the Ohio and Kanawha rivers.

The population was 4,637 at the 2000 census. It is the county seat of Mason County and was the final home of Confederate Brigadier General John McCausland, the next-to-last Confederate General to die, who died at his farm at Grimm's Landing on January 23, 1927 and was buried in nearby Henderson. Point Pleasant is most famous for the 1967 collapse of the Silver Bridge, which killed 46 people.
CaseEdit
History: Mothman is an unidentified creature reported as a large, seven-foot tall, grey creature with man-like legs, bat-like wings and horrifying red eyes. The creature is said to have no head with its eyes stuck to its chest and its arms are replaced by the wings, which are used to fly at over 100 mph. It was first seen on the night of November 15, 1966, when Linda Scarberry, her husband, and another couple were in Point Pleasant, West Virginia, driving near the "TNT area," a local area that was used as a munitions factory and storage facility during World War Two, when they saw something in one of the buildings that described as half-man, half-bird, with glowing red eyes, and a wing span of eight to twelve feet. When the creature let out a horrific screech, the couples drove away, but the creature was in close pursuit, even reaching speeds of over 100 mph, but it backed away as they approached the bright lights of the city. The next night, Marcella Bennett was leaving the home of her brother's house with her young daughter, when she saw the creature leaning against the car. She then ran screaming into her brother's house with her daughter and the locked the door and turned out the lights. They then saw the creature lurking around the windows with its glowing red eyes until it vanished. A few days later, Tom Ury was driving near the TNT area when he saw the Mothman flying in the air, in the middle of the day, and he was one of the few people to see it during the daytime. Over the next year sightings of the Mothman increased throughout Point Pleasant, and the national media descended on the small town, along with thousands wanting to get a glimpse of the creature. Then, other strange things began to occur, including mysterious animal mutilations, where the animals were drained of blood and their heart removed, and they also received visits from the Men In Black, people believed to be from the government that tried to get the residents of Point Pleasant to stop talking about the Mothman. Some believe that the Mothman may have been involved in the worst disaster to fall on the city. On December 15, 1967, the Silver Bridge leading out of town collapsed and fell into the river, killing 46 people, and one witness claimed to have seen the Mothman on the bridge shortly before the collapse. However, the cause of the collapse was later determined to be a structural failure. No more sightings of the Mothman occurred after the collapse, and the bridge has since been rebuilt. Still, thousands of people visit Point Pleasant hoping to see the creature. Books have been written and a major motion picture has been made; the Mothman, real or imagined, is now more famous than ever.
Background: Some believe that the Mothman was a government experiment gone wrong, or possibly a mutant bird created by the chemical residue from the munitions plant, and some believe that the creature may have been a misidentified large sand hill crane, which is as tall as a man and has two red patches of skin that may be mistaken for glowing red eyes.
Investigations: None
Extra Notes: The original airdate for the episode is July 26, 2002.
Results: Unsolved
Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: Sinny on April 16, 2015, 12:59:55 PM
Andy Colvin, 'Mothman Photographer' On Mothman

with Andy Colvin, Mothman Photographer


1. In your opinion what is the UFO Drone Connection?

This is the theory, originally developed by John Keel, that a small percentage of the strange lights seen in the sky were not energy phenomena or hallucinations, but were actual craft built by a "breakaway civilization." Keel would say never say outright who he was talking about, but he left lots of clues by using the UFO "name game."

It sounds like it was the Paperclip ex-Nazis, in league with the Navy and other agencies. These craft were probably being built in the area I grew up in, near Pt. Pleasant, WV, at the time of the Mothman sightings.

2. Do you think aliens really exist and are visiting Earth?

I'd like to say "no," because saying that it might be only "1% possible" only encourages those caught up in that CIA mind-op known as the "Extraterrestrial Thesis" or ETH. Begrudgingly, I have to admit that interdimensional beings are possible. Ghosts, ethereal beings, and psychic phenomena are pretty much "proven," although we still don't have the math on them yet. Aliens from outer space? Certainly not, unless you count other dimensions as "outer space." The problem with all this, of course, is that humans are mimicking these ethereal processes. That alien a witness sees is either in their head, coming in temporarily – as sort of holographic image – into their sphere of awareness, or a post-hypnotic suggestion or "screen memory" of an encounter with humans – probably scientists using advanced EM technology or drugs on them.

A lot of this can be called the "Copycat Phenomenon," too, where people see stuff on TV and imagine it into their lives. That particular "copycat" meme blames everything on jealousy or other simple motivations, thus obscuring the heavy mind control being applied directly to witnesses who have seen, or research, the physical development of the drone aerial craft.

And as you know, many UFO researchers have died mysteriously when they started babbling the truth. The MIB only protect the pro-ETH people and certain cryptozoologists who are helping to cover up the drone development by exploiting whatever "diversion" capability can be found in debating whether or not these creatures are "real" or "interdimensional." I am now toying with the idea that although Mothman seems like a real, interdimensional, archetypal creature, the Bigfoot situation has been set up from the get-go. While there may be an actual archetypal Wild Man in our history, the spooks may have decided to "ape" it by stimulating Bigfoot sightings – either through Copycat memes or the use of EM waves beamed surreptiously at the witness.

3. What in the hell is Mothman actually if you could summarize its high strangeness or categorize it?

Yes, I think he is a messianic-style, archetypal deity. The Buddhists call it the Garuda, but it is called by different names in different countries. Birds are more connected to the supernatural than any other animal (see "The Folklore of Birds"). The Garuda has several different tasks he is apparently involved in, most having to do with regulating the airwaves of the superspectrum. He is drawn to the activity of other supernatural creatures and "dark" forces (as a "first responder"), which explains his appearances at certain places and times. There actually seems to be a decipherable code there. Another role of the Garuda is to "stabilize" the minds of humans as they advance on the evolutionary scale, both personally (within a lifetime) and societally (over time). This force is, I think, what Aleister Crowley was attempting to control or understand. If it couldn't be used operationally, it could be exploited as a psyop to keep others from understanding its power.

4. Could you tell us about your personal Mothman sighting and experience?

I first saw his silhouette during the original flap in late 1966. There was something psychic going on, where I felt he was going to contact me. But he didn't really do it then. I just got a fleeting glimpse. Later, my best friend said he was pals with the birdman (and the aliens), however. He was "treated" for his "contactee" symptoms by the same psychiatrist who treated famous contactee Woody Derenberger, and who was pals with the notorious MIB, Indrid Cold. Cold was creeping around our neighborhood. We were all watched by the MIB. This all culminated in my friend and I seeing a vision of the 9/11 attacks, which would come 34 years later. After he became a "vampire" and bit someone in the neck, my friend moved away. I became friends with the next guy who lived there, too. He was grabbed on the shoulder by Mothman in 1973. Around the same time, I saw Mothman, again in silhouette form, in the same place that the two other guys had seen him. My friend Harriet also saw Mothman at this spot in 1968. When we went back to this spot in 2002, we saw an energy field that devulged some secrets about itself. It was the 50th anniv. of the UFO "attack" on Washington, D.C. That same day, in 2002, another UFO was seen over D.C. It has been a strange trip, filled with synchronicities and unbelievable insights into what might have been going on.

5. What is the Mothman-MIB Connection?

I think some of the MIBs may have been secretly worshipping "dark" forces that attracted the Garuda. If murder was involved, which it apparently was, then the Thunderbird – another way to view Mothman – would be stimulated into activity, as the Thunderbird is a sort of gatekeeper to the "other side." Thunderbird totems are put in Native American graveyards to protect the spirits of the dead, and to help the journey up the ascending ladder of consciousness – much like the Garuda.

6. What are some of the latest sightings of Mothman?

We've had a few recent sightings in around both Pt. Pleasant and my own little neighborhood, Pleasant Dell.

We had a sighting in Pt. Pleasant a year and a half ago, right over where the Silver Bridge once stood. The witnesses were from Columbus and had no knowledge of the history. Not long after that, a munitions dome blew up in the nearby TNT Area. Since then, there has been a lot of activity there. Trucks are driving underground and moving stuff around, maybe removing it. They are "sealing" the ground there, as well, in order to keep the radioactivity from leaching up. The adjacent DLA facility went up for sale, too. This is where they were storing all of these materials. Gold is the best insulator for plutonium, so it is no surprise that Indrid Cold and Fred Crisman (of JFK fame) showed up the same day a golden sphere fell into a nearby field. Essentially, the MIB and the ETH were used to bamboozle the locals into a stupor, whereby they wouldn't complain about the pollution. Across the river from the TNT Area is a town, Cheshire, that recently was more or less abandoned, because everyone was getting cancer.

One guy recently saw Mothman near the Institute plant, where the Aviary was apparently plotting some of its "MJ-12? business through SRI and DLA. ("MJ-12? may actually stand for "Massive Joke: 2012," where the drones are released in 2012 on U.S. soil, after decades of "UFO secrecy.") Indrid Cold lived very close to Institute, which is today at the center of the "fracking" mania. This would be a sister plant of sorts to the one in Germany, Dora-Mittelbau, that was rumored to have been building some of the Nazi saucers. They simply moved the operation to WV after the war. This may have attracted Mothman, perhaps, because these drones could possibly be used to terrorize humanity. I know it sounds the plot of a cartoon, but that is the best answer I can come up with that will be understandable by most people.

7. Is there a connection to Monks and Mothman?

I think so, in the sense that monks of all sorts study those symbolisms that reveal the existence of, and partially explain, the birdman phenomenon. Some of the MIB were undoubtedly occults and/or "Wandering Bishops." Interestingly, when my friend Harriet saw Mothman at our "vortex" spot, it changed shape on her, and one of those shapes was that of hooded monk. It greatly resembled the Flatwoods Monster, whose first appearance in 1952 may have been an "op" designed to play on the monk theme. Strangely, the same hooded figure she saw is depicted exactly within a statue, in Seattle, to George Washington (who actually owned the lands that towns like Pt. Pleasant, Institute, and Mound now occupy). The statue is of a whale fin, with a Flatwoods Monsterentity carved into it. The whale fin is typically associated with the Thunderbird in Native lore. The Thunderbird's claw goes into the fin, much as Mothman grabbed the shoulder of my other friend five years after Harriet.

This gets us into the question you asked about the paranormal MIBs. Some of the above occultists, some with government funding, some meditating in caves, are "in play" and doing "workings." These workings can cause the appearance of various entities. Some of it can be done with technology, some with the mind. Some of it is natural, along the order of talking to a ghost. Some of the MIB sightings may have been attempts to set up "patsies" to the RFK and MLK assassinations. Manson was from the area, and his girls were involved in at least two assassination attempts (that we know of). David Ferrie was hanging around the area, too, in addition to Crisman and "JFK conspirator/UFO researcher" Gordon Novel. Even William L. Moore, of MJ-12 fame, was living nearby at the time.

Another angle here, which also involves Harriet, is that she saw a monk in her house once. When I showed her a picture of a Buddhist monk who claims to be able to turn into a Garuda, she said that he was the monk who had visited her. This monk, Samudranath, also happens to look like one of our candidates for Indrid Cold. Samudranath also looks like the thing photographed in the window by my sister in 1973 – just as the boy who had been grabbed by Mothman was visiting us. All three have faces resembling those of the "Thunderbeings" painted on the drums and totems of certain Northwest Coast Indians. These Thunderbeings are thought to be animal-human hybrids, who can take either form by the use of obscure supernatural processes.

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Biography of Andy Colvin

Andy Colvin is a West Coast artist, photographer, and writer who has been called "the world's foremost authority on the 'Mothman' phenomenon" and "his generation's Charles Fort," due to his intensive documentation of synchronicities in relation to investigative research (i.e., "synchromysticism" or "synchroconspiracy"). Colvin's often controversial theories have made him a popular speaker on venues like Coast to Coast AM, NPR, and PBS, and have gained him a dedicated following. Colvin currently co-hosts the popular conspiracy show, "That Was the Month That Wasn't," which examines how the media blends stories to subconsciously "manufacture consent" in the public mind. Following in the footsteps of Fortean author John A. Keel, Colvin has blazed a 21st Century trail of investigation into mysteries that have plagued mankind for centuries, such as UFOs, creature entities, magic, and the psychology of the human mind. Colvin's approach is unique in that it blends a background of genuine paranormal experience with decades of research into political science, history, media behavior, and sociology. His understanding of art and symbology has, at times, allowed Colvin to connect dots that previously escaped attention.

In the 1960s, on a West Virginia backroad, Colvin's neighborhood – the same neighborhood where Charles Manson and Sara Jane Moore grew up – was hit by a series of mysterious phenomena, such as exotic flying craft, Men in Black, and the intriguing entity now known as "Mothman." Following these encounters, Colvin found that he could draw, sing, and take pictures, and that he had a photographic memory. He was recognized as a prodigy, and was eventually offered a scholarship to Harvard University. While in college, Colvin broke ground in several then-new disciplines, such as guerilla art, performance art, and "shamanic conceptual" art. In the early 1980s, Colvin made a splash in the New York art world by taking on the persona of "Whiz," a practitioner of "collaborative art." This unique approach allowed Colvin to actually work in some manner with several notable artists.

While attending graduate school at the Univ. of Texas at Austin, Colvin helped found U.T.'s celebrated Transmedia Dept. as well as the Austin Film Society, an organization now credited with bringing commercial filmmaking to Texas. In 1985, Colvin used his tuition grant money to purchase the only 8mm camcorder then available in town, becoming the first filmmaker in Austin to shoot in the new format. His ensuing documentation of the lives of local "slackers" influenced the seminal cult hit that defined Generation-X, "Slacker" – a project for which Colvin helped raise funds and equipment. Colvin's band, "Ed Hall," appeared in the film and on the soundtrack.

Following graduate school, Colvin worked on Hollywood films, toured with his experimental troupe, The Interdimensional Vortex League (once named America's "most underground band" by Europe's hip arts magazine, Blitz), and began making small, ethnographic documentaries about unusual tribes, subcultures, and personalities. His 25-year study of modern Texans, "Multislack," is slated for production in 2012.

Colvin's work has been seen or heard in all 50 states, and in several foreign countries. His writing has appeared in various magazines, including Paranoia, Inside the Grassy Knoll, The Stranger, and D'Art, the arts journal for the Church of the Subgenius. Colvin's unique career has been studded with various mind-blowing, synchronistic events, some of which allowed him to study with, or work with, some of the greatest creative minds of the 20th Century, including Nam June Paik, Lee Friedlander, Keith Haring, Dennis Hopper, David Lynch, Robert Anton Wilson, Laurie Anderson, Daniel Johnston, Vito Acconci, Bruce Bickford, and the Butthole Surfers

Title: Re: Mothman - Fact or Fiction
Post by: Sinny on April 16, 2015, 01:02:19 PM
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