So after seeing a thread devoted to people's political profiles, and political quiz scores on /b/ earlier today, after taking several of said tests myself, I decided to horrify undo and probably a few other people here, with an image containing the results. Said results were very consistent, over five tests, although I'm only quoting three, here. Apparently, my political colour is roughly that of blood. ;)
(http://www.mirshalak.org/images/political-profile-1+26-08-2012+.png)
I've always been Libertarian, but apparently that is softening somewhat, as I age; although I'm noticing that my level of sympathy towards the gay movement in particular, has been steadily declining recently, and I think my answers in that area, were really the only thing which pushed me towards authoritarianism, in the overall scores. I'm apparently also a staunch believer in the Prime Directive, as well. I will admit that I had no idea that I was that pacifistic, however.
*Interjection from mental voice with suspiciously Liverpudlian accent*
"Well, for Christ's sake, it's the only sane way to be, man."
"Shut up, you." ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlKX-m17C7U
Quote from: petrus4 on August 26, 2012, 07:38:21 AM
So after seeing a thread devoted to people's political profiles, and political quiz scores on /b/ earlier today, after taking several of said tests myself, I decided to horrify undo and probably a few other people here, with an image containing the results. Said results were very consistent, over five tests, although I'm only quoting three, here. Apparently, my political colour is roughly that of blood. ;)
(http://www.mirshalak.org/images/political-profile-1+26-08-2012+.png)
I've always been Libertarian, but apparently that is softening somewhat, as I age; although I'm noticing that my level of sympathy towards the gay movement in particular, has been steadily declining recently, and I think my answers in that area, were really the only thing which pushed me towards authoritarianism, in the overall scores. I'm apparently also a staunch believer in the Prime Directive, as well. I will admit that I had no idea that I was that pacifistic, however.
*Interjection from mental voice with suspiciously Liverpudlian accent*
"Well, for Christ's sake, it's the only sane way to be, man."
"Shut up, you." ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlKX-m17C7U
lol their questions on that test are prejudice towards the idea that there really is a conservative right. there's not. there's just variations of left. some closer to center than others. once in a great while, you will find a person who doesn't agree with any form of social services, but they are rare, firstly because you can't have roads, bridges, public works, police, fire, garbage pickup, schools,etc without social services based taxes.
and no, i'm not horrified lol silly orcy. ;D
see i think the democrats are really not that big on the social services thing. they just keep a frequent track record of the popular vote by ushering in more and more reasons to take people's labor and give seriously reduced versions of it, to the people their predecessors originally enslaved (which they then blame on republicans lol). this is what their predecessors did to the black slaves. they took their labor and enslaved them to the system. they are currently doing it now, to the whole country. just so's ya know. it isn't just about social services or helping the poor anymore. it's about making us a bunch of slaves with no means of forging our own destinies.
they're trying to bankrupt the repubs so they can install full out communism, but the repubs keep finding new ways to make money, including not making it here anymore. which has left many more of us, dependent on the charity of the government, a move the democrats benefit from by pointing to the repubs as responsible for our current financial problems. which is only partially true to the extent of what other choices were available, such as losing what you and your ancestors worked for for the last 2 hundred years.
it's a giant chess game, wherein we were once pawns capable of becoming knights, bishops and rooks, and occassionally kings and queens (of our own little empires) and now we're not even on the chessboard and they toss us bread crumbs if we're the right race and gender.
next time you hear a white democrat talk about how the white man enslaved the black people, remember, it was the democratic party that was all for slavery. most of the repubs were totally against it. the democrats, though, didn't want to give up their slaves.
after the civil war, the repubs gave the black slaves, the lands of their democratic slave masters because the laws had changed and the slaves had actually earned that land by the sweat of their brow. but since the repubs were northerners, they couldn't enforce it for long, because local lawmakers in the south, would just create loopholes and take the land right back again. it got pretty bad. there was alot of trouble.
but if you listen to the way democrats tell it, it was all the fault of the republicans and still is.
p.s. the only way the democrats could do this to the black people was to not consider them fully human and write laws that suggested the same. as long as they were characterized as less than human, they could legally keep them in bondage. because the laws on the books regarding human rights and freedom, applied specifically to humans (should've been a no-brainer but so far, democratic leaders have a track record of being extremely racist, whether to blacks, whites or whatever. republican party officials have done some doozies too but not to the black people). so the repubs changed it so that the black people were defined as human, and therefore capable of enjoying all the same liberties and protections as any one else. but they had to federally enforce it because the democrats would keep changing things around. that meant they were legally justified in their claims on the former slave owners lands because they had been literally ripped off of all their labor.
you ain't a slave owner are ya?
Quote from: undo11 on August 26, 2012, 09:52:26 AM
p.s. the only way the democrats could do this to the black people was to not consider them fully human and write laws that suggested the same. as long as they were characterized as less than human, they could legally keep them in bondage.
And yet... we haz Obama 8)
Quoteyou ain't a slave owner are ya?
Hmmm no but considering it... maybe half dozen or so willing.... errr forget I said that :P
At least I still have my small kingdom :D
Quote from: zorgon on August 26, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
And yet... we haz Obama 8)
Hmmm no but considering it... maybe half dozen or so willing.... errr forget I said that :P
At least I still have my small kingdom :D
Z having Fun..........
Willing role players (maybe blonde, plain, complementary genome, nothing on them...) perhaps?
0CD
oh, and one more thing:
communists and socialists are not pacifists. they just use idealistic positions regarding war, to attract the youth. they take over and reshape nations by first convincing the next generation to rise up and revolt, in order to have peace. sadly, once they take over, people soon realize, war is not one of things they have outlawed lol "peace peace yet there is no peace."
so you may be a pacifist, but the people you're aligning yourself with are not. it'd be pretty hard in fact, to find a country where the leaders were strictly pacifists at the moment. its rather hard to survive politically and financially if you're not at least interested in national defense (within reason, of course).
z
lol
i swear, they are trying to convince everyone not to do anything to improve their circumstances, so you end up not having a future. like discouraging people from having businesses and trying to improve their plight in life. turning everyone against each other. this is not acceptable. let's not just sit here and wait for the world to end! we should all be working on the video game project! it's a good idea! we could all benefit from it! come on everybody. don't let them numb us into oblivion! think positive. be creative. erm.. yeah!
it's such a big project, that almost every type of job is possible.
(insert cheering section) woot?
WOOT is right, Undo, well done! No horrified glazed over look just facts and true history of the democrats who have manipulatd the peoplle for many, many years.
Just like everything else in our world that seems one way, but under the blamket is the opposite, the two party system is a perfetc example of such.
I have to remember Boss Hogg on the Dukes of Hazard when I think of democrats, and his cronies Rosco and Enos. Obama, Hillary, and Biden I think theyre called in the current day.
But, the republicans are definitely not Bo, Luke, and Daisy, tryin' to save the day from Evil Roscoe P Coltrane anmore, theyre just another version of the evil embodiement which world leaders have nearly always been.
America likes to melt its collective mind with television, and the two party system, and its crumb throwing prowess, shows us we are suckers for the worst form of reality TV...big government.
Snooki for President? :o
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on August 26, 2012, 02:29:25 PM
But, the republicans are definitely not Bo, Luke, and Daisy, tryin' to save the day from Evil Roscoe P Coltrane anmore
they never were. the south is mostly democrat and has been since the beginning. the democrats present nearly everything about republicans, exactly opposite of reality. it's bizarre. they try to make people think that the folks living in places like georgia, for example, are all idiots and republicans. but what they don't tell ya, is that it's mostly black people and they have been brainwashed and bribed into shooting their selves in the collective foot by voting democrat over and over again.
the one thing i think repubs have going still (and it's on extremely thin ice), is that they still believe we can survive this IF, they can convince enough people that just rolling over and giving up the ability to forge your own destiny, should not be an acceptable option. but as long as they are being circumvented at nearly every turn, by people who want to turn this into a nation of slaves, not much they can do about it.
that's essentially what communism is anyway. a bunch of slaves who don't have their own destiny.
remember hollywood is primarily run, lock stock and barrel, by democrats.
So true about the democrats Undo..giving up on humanity to save their precious piece of the pie.
I once thought that democrats were great, because they appeared to help the downtrodden and demoralized, but once I graduated nursery school(LOL!) I saw how they were just another control effort to make everyone become a tool of the state.
A tool for filling their tax coffers so they could siphon it of to the secret accounts that every government entity has.
The dumbocrats take and tax and hide the money from who really needs it, just giving back enough to keep them from starving, but never giving enough to get the poor back on their feet.
I liken the democratic way to someone helping me out of a hole in the ice, and just when Im almost out, they let go, and go" gee lets try that again"
For hundreds of years now, theyve been dropping us back in the ice, and at least the repuds give us a chance to form an opinion and excercise it if we so desire.
As a somwhat successful business owner for decades now, I see the best years of my hard work as being during republican rule, although I know they have a dark agenda as well, but hey, if ya gotta pick the lesser of two evils, at least we can take a chance and vote in the US still.
Obama, I cant say anything bad or good about him as he has been an absolute zero. Done nothing, achieved nothing, yet promised everything. And the repuds have fought him every step of the way, keeping his hands tied until they can take the country back.
We need to redefine what a lame duck is: any democratic president which is serving over a republican congress and house...lame ass duck!
(http://images.clipartof.com/small/441839-Cartoon-Injured-Duck-Using-Crutches-For-His-Lame-Leg-Poster-Art-Print.jpg)
While the two a-holes in the schoolyard fight it out, the rest of the world watches while shaking their heads.
And us, the citizens, suffer.
Le
same thing happens when it's a republican president serving over democratic congress
they are scared now because the repubs already have congress. if they get the presidency as well, oh boy.
problem is, if there's a bunch o' those roman guys in there. they are historically hard core fascist socialists, where a handful of people get everything, step down one rung, and these people get parts of that "everything" based on good behavior. step down one rung, and these people are everyone else, who get what's left over, which usually isn't much. there's no smooth gradually increase, based on your own effort, but rather, eh, if they feel like being nice.
Posted this on my blog..it applies here..
Welcome to another Election........Here we sit, on the schoolyard bench, watching the two bullies fight it out once again. Blood spatters and bones crunch as one bully inflicts blows upon the other. Grunts and groans ensue, and a big poof of dust kicks up, yet we sit here and watch them battle it out with no end in sight. All the while we are forgetting to go to class and better ourselves, and further our studies, while we observe the spectacle of two very sick and twisted individual entities flailing and desperately searching for ways to undermine the other. The end result is always one wins, then spends four years getting scoffed at by the loser in the hallways as they pass, waiting for the next fight to occur, all the while neglecting the very studies they should be accomplishing.Then, the melee starts anew, and we all line back up to watch it while disregarding the true needs of the entire school body. So America, will you continue to be voyeurs for the eltitist agenda, or will you finally step in and pull them apart and take back your schoolyard?
Cheers!
Le
Well, for my part, I still believe that we in the USA still have the very best system of government. But.............it is a government of "we the people" (wtp), and wtp have allowed a number of things to dilute/deter our government from effectively governing.
We are supposed to have three branches of government, that by design, are given certain authorities and specific operational parameters. And each of these branches are in position to effectively ensure that each branch performs in accord with set forth authority, and in accord with the Constitution of the United States.
While people who are voted into government positions can have various and sundry imperfections, as long as wtp ensure that these branches honor the Constitution, and the Constitutional laws of the land, then, this country will be just fine.
But, wtp, have allowed this current administration (and others past as well) to move in directions that are in direct conflict our Constitution and with our laws. We have voted in a President whose past was positioned with the far left, and whose actions have demonstrated his socialistic intentions to totally remake this country. This president has even publicly stated that he was not going to comply with certain laws of the land, relative to immigration.
LE said, "We need to redefine what a lame duck is: any democratic president which is serving over a republican congress and house...lame ass duck"!
Well, that was not the case for Obama's first two years in office. He completely "owned" both the House and the Senate, and thus, there was no "check and balance" by the Administrative" branch over the Executive branch of government those first two years. That is one of the reasons why some things got passed that should never have.
Thank God that wtp quickly saw the now "naked plans" of this president, and started making changes, by voting out Democrats in the House during mid-term elections. And yes for the past two years, the House has been led by a majority of Republicans. That is the only thing that has kept this president from making even more drastic changes to our way of government.
All of this, and so much more, is why the coming November election is so important to we the American people. During these past nearly four years, this country has been purposely attacked from the inside, by people we voted in in 2008. They through out the "bait of change", and many voters took that "bait", and took it to the voting polls.
I believe that many in this country have awoken to the fact that we are being taken down, piece by piece, by this socialistic president. The "awakening" became evident in the last mid-term elections, and, for the survival of this country as we know it and as we want it, this "awakening' must continue with the upcoming elections.
This is still a free country, where we can vote as we wish. We all need to get informed, and really know what to expect from each person we decide to vote for.
And "getting informed" will never come from political attack ads, and nor will much real information come from the main Stream Media. But, if we try, we can find people and places with information, that we can have confidence in, to help us in our voting decisions.
a rich thief payed the two guys to fight.
that way be could pickpocket us while we watch.
third party is the only answer.
Quote from: undo11 on August 26, 2012, 03:15:17 PM
same thing happens when it's a republican president serving over democratic congress
they are scared now because the repubs already have congress. if they get the presidency as well, oh boy.
problem is, if there's a bunch o' those roman guys in there. they are historically hard core fascist socialists, where a handful of people get everything, step down one rung, and these people get parts of that "everything" based on good behavior. step down one rung, and these people are everyone else, who get what's left over, which usually isn't much. there's no smooth gradually increase, based on your own effort, but rather, eh, if they feel like being nice.
I believe Reagan presided over a demorat house and senate and he seemed to get things done. It's just now we have sooo many liberal demorats that they'd rather see a move to communism as a good thing. There's no such thing as a conservative demorat.
Screw em' all
A case of medical in Taiwan Vs America.
The guy that crashed in this video migrated to the states a long time ago, has little family and is 28 years old and pays medical. He broke his leg in a couple of places and a few other flesh wounds.
Bad Scooter Crash - M13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg6MdoDglzw
Talking about crash and medical in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QzD_UT6L78
If that guy had medical in taiwan, he woulda got that treatment for next to nothing :P
Taiwan as far as i know is not a commy country, FAR from it :P
How does a socialized medical system translate into communism?
Most civilized nations in Europe and the old Commonwealth have such a system. And they are not communist.
It doesn't even have to be free. When I was working in Canada I paid $11.00 a week into that system... I have no problem with AFFORDABLE health care
Right now though despite paying for it all my working life here in the US and never needing it... now when I do need it it's "Oh sorry... all that doesn't count... you don't have any coverage today so sorry your shit out of luck... unless your an illegal... then we could do something for you."
The smartest ting a kid could do these days is put all the money he/she would pay on work plans into some sort of trust fund and make payments. That way it will be there when they need it and if they don't they will have a nice chunk of change at the end
A few years ago I had a major hernia cost 35,000.00 plus miscellaneous fees that kept coming. Fortunately at the time I had good coverage and took advantage of t to have it done and my wife's knees before we lost it again
Sure enough not long after the job increased the number of hours needed to qualify... from 86 a month to 120 a month (at a time went the economy made it so N ONE save a few top execs made those hours) and took away the bank (saved extra hours from peak months) So effectively no one in the industry currently has any coverage, even though the employers still pay into the fund for every hour we work
So now my hernia has popped out again... can't really sue because there is no guarantee on this... and am effectively screwed for now :P
As long as the private companies dictate the health care and don't allow free services like Saint John's Ambulance to operate... the American health system is a travesty and a shame.... We are supposed to be #1 country in the world and yet we cannot keep out citizens healthy
Back in Canada one province made Car Insurance socialized. It worked great... because there was a no fault clause so no law suits on stupid stuff to drive the costs up. You simply took the ar in and they paid for actual damages not the extra lawyer "pain and emotional" crap that just makes lawyers rich.
Here the government says its ILLEGAL to drive without insurance... well then they should offer a cheap coverage too and not just have issued a licence to gouge us to private insurance companies
All 'socialist' programs are not a bad thing... and it doesn't mean communism. Yawl have been brainwashed by those Skull and Bones Grand Wizards
Quote from: rdunk on August 26, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
This is still a free country, where we can vote as we wish. We all need to get informed, and really know what to expect from each person we decide to vote for.
And "getting informed" will never come from political attack ads, and nor will much real information come from the main Stream Media. But, if we try, we can find people and places with information, that we can have confidence in, to help us in our voting decisions.
Get informed about what exactly? when both Rebubican and Democrat are members of Skull and Bones and/or the Bilderberg club... then what more do you need to know?
There is a photo on the net somewhere a Bilderberger meeting in Montreal... Bush, Cheney, Obama, Hillary and a few others... all coming out of the meeting
So what difference does it make who you vote for? None of them will give you what they promise you
And who is the head of the Bilderberg club? Queen of the Netherlands, home of Royal Dutch Shell and the World Court
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Toons2/Queen_Beatrice.jpg)
Queen Beatrice, Netherlands
THIS is what I want to see :D
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Toons/Bush_Pegasus.png)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Toons/999prologic999_Arrest_Nazi_Bush_Now.jpg)
QuoteThere is a photo on the net somewhere a Bilderberger meeting in Montreal... Bush, Cheney, Obama, Hillary and a few others... all coming out of the meeting
Amicus, forget the names of those clowns ::) they have no the least idea how stuff runs :) i suspect
Elder Brothers have made their last decision about this civilization.
We can't forget the clowns :P
We see them on TV everyday acting like Gorillas thumping their chests :D
I would say send some Russians to take over the White House but you guys are not doing much better these days :P
maybe I should learn Chinese :D I wonder if they would buy my house above market value :D
Quote from: zorgon on August 26, 2012, 11:46:52 PM
We can't forget the clowns :P
We see them on TV everyday acting like Gorillas thumping their chests :D
I would say send some Russians to take over the White House but you guys are not doing much better these days :P
maybe I should learn Chinese :D I wonder if they would buy my house above market value :D
about Russia is
Holy Truth :) China? :o Just yet another paper tiger ;D
QuoteAll 'socialist' programs are not a bad thing... and it doesn't mean communism. Yawl have been brainwashed by those Skull and Bones Grand Wizards
Zorry Zorg, but yes they are, hate to disagree with you but socialised medicine is a form of communism..The problem is Hmo's and health plans, so much overhead it's not funny. When I was younger my dad took me to the emergency room with internal bleeding in my arm. My dad was a poor working man and couldn't pay the doc. The doc worked out a plan so my dad could pay him back...no middle men, no insurance forms...ahh those were the days...
when they start telling a John Lear or a John Fountain, you're too old for this treatment because you're on your way out soon (as they do in Europe because it's not cost effective) then you might understand.
But hey that's just me.... ;D
All 'socialist' programs are not a bad thing... and it doesn't mean communism. Yawl have been brainwashed by those Skull and Bones Grand Wizards.
Nope! This type of brainwashing mostly happens on the basis of "ignorance", as people are uninformed, and just don't know any better.
But yes, what the Democrats/far left has said for years, and is saying now in every type of media they have access to, could be referred to as attempts to "brainwash" Americans into thinking BIG GOVERNMENT IS GOOD, AND IS NEEDED FOR THE GOOD OF ALL PEOPLE. --------AND THAT EVERYTHING THE REPUBLICANS, CONSERVATIVES, AND FAR RIGHT STAND FOR IS WRONG, UGLY, AND WILL CAUSE CERTAIN EARLY DEATH.
And that is about as far from the truth as you can get. No, Republicans/Conservatives are not the same as Democrats/far left - not even close.
There may be some clandestined long-term attempt(s) to violate the original intent of America, by some group(s), but that won't happen, if we are able to re-take Conservative control of our government, and start reversing the huge negatives implemented by the current administration.
Major reductions in the size and reach of the federal government is absolutely necessary. Major changes in our energy programs is absolutely necessary, including pretty much doing away with the Energy Department. Major changes in the "Federal" involvement in education is absolutely necessary - return it back to the states. ETC! ETC! ETC!
No Bilderberg, nor any other entity(s) can take the U.S. down, unless we allow it out of ignorance. And, learning from mistakes, that is exactly the kind of ignorance that got this current president elected. And we are really beginning to suffer for it ------ and that suffering has only just begun, if we can't make the necessary changes in November.
Ive been self pay for decades and have saved a crapload of money, so Im not sure which would be better, but our leaders have a penchant for making mincemeat out of a good thing, so I cant say either way.
Now Zorgon, as for Bush...Ill get the straightjacket, you get the sodium pentathol...somebody grab the colonoscopy scope so we can get that head back out of his ass. :o
And yes the Chinese will buy your house above value, and then leave it empty like those massive buildings that keep their construction industry going!LOL!
Cheers!
Le
wasnt the cia ranch in arkansas that smuggled cocaine during iran contra next door to whitewater.wasnt bush senior running cia at that time?wasnt whitewater a scandal for clinton?scandal neighbors from two seperate parties,how could that be?
the reason the economy is in the crapper is because clinton signed the bill that allowed for the housing bubble.
then bush jr devalued the dollar by stimulating the the economy with trillions.
now were screwed and a dollar bill is reusable toilet paper.
Quote from: Littleenki on August 26, 2012, 04:36:06 PM
Ive been self pay for decades and have saved a crapload of money, so Im not sure which would be better, but our leaders have a penchant for making mincemeat out of a good thing, so I cant say either way.
Now Zorgon, as for Bush...Ill get the straightjacket, you get the sodium pentathol...somebody grab the colonoscopy scope so we can get that head back out of his ass. :o
And yes the Chinese will buy your house above value, and then leave it empty like those massive buildings that keep their construction industry going!LOL!
Cheers!
Le
oh,
Amici, what did ye get against bush? :o he's very nice guy, Just imbecile & drunken bastard. But, hey the, who is f*King ideal on the
Holy Earth? ;) + i know too many
small people & only f*King difference between 'em & $-clans been the magnitude to $hit around :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFOIe0eJMXI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tBiJi1LcGM
::) ::) ::)
in short, if ye call bush Crapola, you ne'er seen really crapola amongst humans ;D
+ many russians have terrored me with funny-bunny arguments about new f*Kingly great empire(China). :D
some republicans are not actually conservative
just like some democrats are not actually liberal
i mean, just based on our current definitions of those terms.
currently, as long as you have an address where they can send the bill, any emergency room and hospital will give you medical care without insurance. you can go up there and get a problem addressed immediately. there are rare cases where they won't but they are very rare indeed because any losses that result, they can write off their taxes.
probably why the democrats don't like the current state of health care, cause they will be seen as the bad guys if they insist the hospitals pay higher taxes to compensate for their write offs (that's usually how it works).
also, no good population control gone mad scenario will work without the forced obeisance of the medical community. doctors are supposed to fix ya, not let you die if you don't match some preconceived notion of value to society.
Quote from: undo11 on August 27, 2012, 06:12:48 AM
currently, as long as you have an address where they can send the bill, any emergency room and hospital will give you medical care without insurance. you can go up there and get a problem addressed immediately. there are rare cases where they won't but they are very rare indeed because any losses that result, they can write off their taxes.
Emergency yes.. they cannot legally refuse you if its an emergency... so if I wait till its bad enough that i need an ambulance to get there they will fix it and send e a HUGE bill... but fix it NOW before it becomes an emergency and is only a small bill? Show me one hospital that will do elective surgery without cash up front.
Quotedoctors are supposed to fix ya, not let you die if you don't match some preconceived notion of value to society.
Doctors do not know how to fix you in most cases. They just keep you going. Afterall that is why they call medicine a 'practice'
A guy in Florida had a bad leg... they amputated the good one...
My sister had an unknown condition... she went from doctor to doctor who prescribed medication to see if this will work. In the end she diagnosed herself on the internet (because it had gotten chronic) but by that tile the meds had destroyed one of her kidneys
If a doctor would look at you and say gee sorry I don't know what is wrong and send you to someone who does... would that not make more sense? If a mechanic doesn't fix y car, I don't pay him... why does a doctor get to bill me 40.00 for 15 minutes of doing nothing?
The reason that medical cost are so high is the enormous MALPRACTICE insurance these guys need to cover their blunders. I have a very LONG list of people I know personally on that blunder list
So 'technically' they are supposed to fix you, but don't count on it :P
hey i know all about research to solve your own problems, did that with diabetic neuropathy by taking methyl b-12 and learned that from a doc who specializes in curing kids and adults with autism, who noticed the pleasant side effect of giving methyl b-12 to his patients was the ones with diabetes were actually recovering circulation, healing nerve damage in their extremities and use of their extremeties.
my sister figured out i was allergic to eggs, while the docs kept having me drink mylanta 2 and take repeated upper GIs and saying things like, "your stomach lining should be pink and smooth but it's red and granular. you are a candidate for ulcers. here take this bland diet. (main breakfast ingredient, poached eggs).
so yeah i know about that. but let's say you're suffering from your hernia. you go in and say i'm suffering from this. you will get help. right then. if it needs an operation and is life threatening, you will get help then. but yeah the bill is gonna be insane. no argument there.
the point i'm making is, once you give government the power over whether your doctor even bothers to save your life while in cardiac arrest or coma or what not, you have just given them the right to wipe ya based on things like age, race, religion or lack thereof, gender, financial bracket or political affiliation. you do not want that. the hospital bill is much preferable.
Quote from: undo11 on August 27, 2012, 09:23:48 AMyou do not want that. the hospital bill is much preferable.
Why can't i have a system like France, or Switzerland, or Germany, or Canada or Australia?
Huh?
How come?
Quote from: zorgon on August 27, 2012, 10:26:48 AM
Why can't i have a system like France, or Switzerland, or Germany, or Canada or Australia?
Huh?
How come?
probably because the democrats, some republicans and rome, want willing slaves, not white guys with educations. so when the time comes to wipe ya, mr. whitey, the doctors will all be on the same boat (by government writ).
it's like asking, why can't we have our economy and jobs back? because the democrats and their backers, don't want us to have an economy. black people and minorities from other countries would actually benefit too much from it and not be willing to stage their "wipe out our competition" revolution. it's part of taking down a country. screw up a country's economy, then raise up a population within its borders who are willing to blame the other race or races, then yank the rug out from under everyone and watch it fly.
man you need to go back to conspiracy school. lol
here you go. i rest my case your honor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=466NeRHc9a0
So who should I vote for now that Ron Paul chickened out?
::)
Can I vote Zorgon for King?
Quote from: zorgon on August 27, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
So who should I vote for now that Ron Paul chickened out?
::)
Can I vote Zorgon for King?
nope, cause zorgon wants slaves.
Quote from: undo11 on August 27, 2012, 11:14:01 AM
here you go. i rest my case your honor.
'm usually addressed as "Your Excelancy" comes with the Baron/Viceroy title :P
yeah the Mason/Rosicrucians started this country... it was the red Shields that coerced Woodrow Wilson to sigh in to power the two private entities, the Fer and the IRS, and sold yawl back into slavery...
you anti masons are blaming the wrong team... wasn't WW a christian? yeah married a ministers daughter in Rome Georgia go figure :P
He's the one to blame for this mess
'I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world — no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. " Woodrow Wilson
Quote from: Littleenki on August 27, 2012, 01:38:16 AM
And yes the Chinese will buy your house above value, and then leave it empty like those massive buildings that keep their construction industry going!LOL!
Works for me :D Then I can buy a nice Winnebago or something and go where the road takes me :D
yeah, i mentioned the fed earlier. it was a 2 banger.
first was the repubs freeing the black slaves and to do so, taking more power than was enumerated to the federal government in the constitution and etc. this gave the federal arm of the government control over the decisions individual states made, because it was individual state laws keeping the black people enslaved.
then, later, the federal reserve sealed the deal, ushered in by the democrats. then individual states, people, etc, could be hit with bigger fees and fines and taxes, businesses could be run out on a rail, wars could be declared on the drop of a dime, and it could be used to punish specific institutions and world views. the temptation to abuse that kind of power, apparently has been too much for both sides of the coin but the repubs have at least, consistently tried to re-establish the economy.
sadly, the economy is not only tied into the fed but wall street and wall street is manipulated constantly, by people who want us to go bankrupt. perfect example of that was when they deliberately handed out subpar mortgage loans to everyone and his uncle, with no proof of citizenry, job or anything lol crashed the housing market, crashed banks, stole old people's life savings, ruined most of our remaining small businesses and wrecked the value of the dollar. put lots of people in the poor house, including minorities.
i got on the average of 10 calls a day, from 8 am to 10pm, everyday (including saturday and sunday) for 2 years, begging me to take one of their loans that had fine print balloon payments of mammoth size and other vehicles to literally steal the property back or just to steal the property, after the loan of the money had broken the back of the economy.
that wasn't repubs that did that. and if there were any repubs involved, they were just play acting to be conservative repubs (like bush who came from a family of white supremacists (read slave owners. they say obama is a regurg of bush. well that's cause they are both democrats lol ). conservatives don't want to ruin the economy. that's like the last thing on their minds
Quote from: zorgon on August 27, 2012, 11:29:37 AM
Works for me :D Then I can buy a nice Winnebago or something and go where the road takes me :D
Ive always wanted to do that! great idea! See ya on the road!:D
Le
oh and regards your earlier question about explaining how we have obama for president : the slaves were sold by other black people in africa and brought by boat to america. so, don't be so racist to think black people didn't have slaves as well. ; ) they most certainly did.
in fact, they still do in other places in the world. there's a huge international slave trade going on right now and has been for a very long time.
Quote from: undo11 on August 27, 2012, 02:54:28 PM
in fact, they still do in other places in the world. there's a huge international slave trade going on right now and has been for a very long time.
Oh yes slavery is all around us... but those slave markets are so dang EXPENSIVE wow.... :o
Its a lot easier and cheaper to just run an ad and get free ones :P
So I take it you voted for Herr Bush and his Oil Clan?
"Works for me Then I can buy a nice Winnebago or something and go where the road takes me"
"I've always wanted to do that! great idea! See ya on the road!:D"
A little sideways to the topic, but in response.......we RV'd fulltime for 5 years. We spent about 4 months of each winter in the Texas Rio Grande Valley, and then traveled some during the rest of the time, each year.
We sold the house on the lake, gave much of the "STUFF" to the kids, and took off. We had a great time!
For us, the best part of RV'ing, it becomes being more about people, than about traveling. We met just lots of really good/friendly people, and made many lasting friends while doing that.
RV'ing fulltime is a "whole different lifestyle"! And, in going through the prep for it, and actually doing it, one quickly learns that most all of the "treasures of life" collected/hoarded over the years actually IS....... "just stuff"!!
The lifestyle is, completely open - - go where you want to, stay as long as you desire, pick the kind of RV parks that suit your budget and "must haves", and know that if you get parked next to someone just not friendly, you can move somewhere else. Most RV'ers find themselves returning to the places they really like and are comfortable with.
Fulltiming is a real life changing experience for most, as it it so different from so much of our normal-life experiences.
Anyone who might be thinking about doing this - I recommend that you read, read, read, online, at the various RV forums, and on RV'er journals. The more you know before you start, will certainly save you from a lot of problems and headaches, when you get on the road.
Oh yes, the RV'ing movie a few years ago was pretty funny, but was not a very realistic presentation of the RV life.
Just FYI !!!
Quote from: zorgon on August 27, 2012, 09:11:21 AM
Emergency yes.. they cannot legally refuse you if its an emergency... so if I wait till its bad enough that i need an ambulance to get there they will fix it and send e a HUGE bill... but fix it NOW before it becomes an emergency and is only a small bill? Show me one hospital that will do elective surgery without cash up front.
Doctors do not know how to fix you in most cases. They just keep you going. Afterall that is why they call medicine a 'practice'
A guy in Florida had a bad leg... they amputated the good one...
My sister had an unknown condition... she went from doctor to doctor who prescribed medication to see if this will work. In the end she diagnosed herself on the internet (because it had gotten chronic) but by that tile the meds had destroyed one of her kidneys
If a doctor would look at you and say gee sorry I don't know what is wrong and send you to someone who does... would that not make more sense? If a mechanic doesn't fix y car, I don't pay him... why does a doctor get to bill me 40.00 for 15 minutes of doing nothing?
The reason that medical cost are so high is the enormous MALPRACTICE insurance these guys need to cover their blunders. I have a very LONG list of people I know personally on that blunder list
So 'technically' they are supposed to fix you, but don't count on it :P
oh,
Holy $hit! looks so familiar ;D
its hard to fix an ongoing experiment,just ask my little gray buddies.theyve been at it for thousands of years.
Quote from: zorgon on August 27, 2012, 04:36:23 PM
Oh yes slavery is all around us... but those slave markets are so dang EXPENSIVE wow.... :o
Its a lot easier and cheaper to just run an ad and get free ones :P
So I take it you voted for Herr Bush and his Oil Clan?
No, as I indicated earlier, I've only voted in presidential elections once, when i was 18. I voted democrat, Jimmy Carter, and the entire thing turned me off from politics (iranian hostage crisis, etc). I thought, "holy toledo, i'm in over my head on this. i need to spend more time studying politics before i vote again." and then i got busy studying the bible instead. lol