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Title: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 01, 2012, 02:09:44 PM
It appears to me that we may be witnessing a number of solid steps towards the Grand Climax of Full Disclosure.  Such as:

1) a huge loss of retail volume in the stock market, together with growing awareness of Too Big To Jail Bankster sins.  How so?  I believe we need to get these Financial Malefactors out of the way, as opposers of Disclosure.  It may be more realistic to see them fade away because of a sinking world economy than to actually have governments stand up to them - although that could happen eventually as they lose power and politicians go trolling for scapegoats.

As to the decline in stock market volume,  if the markets are dominated by HF trading, then this is the equivalent of a bunch of casinos, lacking tourists and betting in each other's parlors! It's cannibalistic finance.

2) disaffection of the US military - the Bin Laden Raid leaks are adding to an inherent distaste for the White House - and this tends to prevent plots to bring martial law to the US.

3) Decline of US influence - the less control the US has over other nations, the more likely it is that they will no longer cooperate on covering up the ET phenomena. If China didn't need our markets, look out!

4) Coupled with the above, a sense of competition in that other nations may exploit ET technology openly, ahead of the US.  What's India up to?

5) The dam breaking on military testimony - more and more people coming forward means less and less risk for those who remain silent, to come forward.  They can't kill them all.

Using Imperial Japan as an example, I do wonder how far it will be necessary to go in beating down the established order before Disclosing the truth.  They wrecked Japan but retained the Emperor to allow for a structure to take over after surrender.  It may be a bumpy ride, especially economically - as that's how the world is ruled and so, that's where the entrenched opposing Cabal is.

Eighthman
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Pimander on September 02, 2012, 09:04:15 PM
Zorgon, who was it that said it would take an act of God to get the secrets of Black Technology out to the public? ???
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 02, 2012, 11:23:09 PM
OK, skepticism understood.   Have you'all considered the possibility of competition in disclosure?  Hey, we've got antigravity craft and you beeotches got aircraft carriers?  or screw you and your hegemony, yankee - UFO's are real.

Perhaps this is the weakness in conspiracy theory. Can you really slavishly control other nations as to common secrets?

Could NASA really control the Soviets/Russkies as to what they found on Venus or elsewhere?
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 02, 2012, 11:29:01 PM
In addition, I'm callin' BS on this black tech stuff because of the Israelis and Netanyahu.  They positively ache for war and the US ain't havin' it. 

If there is any interdimentional tech in US hands, I gotta believe that Israelis know about it ( as with Pollard and many others).  So, as we don't hear about Jewish soldiers popping up out of nowhere and grabbing Iran proto-nukes, I ain't believin'
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: robomont on September 02, 2012, 11:36:39 PM
i believe you are right about some of that.
heres a few ideas.
iran admitted a couple years ago to having some kind of ufo tech.my belief is they didnt have a way to power them until they got nukes.i believe this is the real reason israel is pissed.not because iran may bomb israel.if iran wanted to,they could nuke israel right now.
next,if aliens are real,we dont want them to know what our ultimate weapon is.so nobody will ever know the truth unless we are invaded and then its probly too late.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 03, 2012, 07:32:50 PM
Disclosure might be easier than we think.  How so?  Suppose UFO's make themselves pests?

UFO sightings are increasing and seem to be becoming bolder, with more daylight activity or brightly lit up at night.  If this trend increases, they will eventually interfere with airtraffic, delay takeoffs and become more of a nuisance than anything to be feared. 

Excuses by authorities - writing off sightings as balloons, parachute flares or similar nonsense will fail as people demand, 'if you're doing this, stop!' 
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Primus58 on September 03, 2012, 07:42:14 PM
Quote from: Pimander on September 02, 2012, 09:04:15 PM
Zorgon, who was it that said it would take an act of God to get the secrets of Black Technology out to the public? ???

I know you didn't ask me :o, but I remember it being Ben Rich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ahst8TMww
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 03, 2012, 08:00:51 PM
Suppose some odious nation like Iran or North Korea gets antigrav tech?  Is the US gonna stand by and do nothing?  Watch their expensive weapons become obsolete?

There are ways this situation could crack wide open, rather suddenly.  It's called competition. :)

And ...... humans are creatures of habit.  If UFO's could make themselves into aerial annoyances ("this is your Captain speaking.....we're going to be indefintely delayed due to another #$$%% UFO getting into our airspace")  It would take people's attention away from screaming 'invasion' or 'demons'. 

Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: robomont on September 03, 2012, 09:35:57 PM
a few years back,i believe i found a way to see ufos.
first,you need a cloudy day at dusk.
look for stars.
stars usually dont shine through heavy clouds.
now these could be airplanes or maybe not.
what happens is usually they are invisible,but the sunlight coming over the horizon right at dusk makes them shine.
then just wait to see if it moves.if it moves slow and steady its probly an airplane.
if it stays in one place or moves very fast,probly ufo.
if you have two nights in a row,verify the next night .they usually hover in the same general location.
if you go by my interpretation of the bible,there should be one for every one hundred by one hundred square miles.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 04, 2012, 02:42:08 AM
Speaking of competition to exploit UFO tech,  what's up with Keshe?  Is this guy delusional or real?

Before anyone sez "crazy", we have the mystery of how Iran grabbed a perfect high tech drone, undamaged. Or why Keshe almost got grabbed in Canada on trumped up nonsense...

Or the Big One:  Why is the US quickly backing away from Israel and any threat of attacking Iran, almost betraying Israel publically? 

Something is happening, folks. I sense a disturbance in the force.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: deuem on September 04, 2012, 08:33:39 AM
IMHO, no government is going to release anything until something major happens, like a UFO crashing in downtown LA.

These are cards held close to the vest. It ain't going to happen, unless! I am sure that TPTB have lots of toys that can take care of any new nuke country if they wish too.  Even if they get anit-gravity machines. They would be so far in the old tech, that they would look like toys to the big boys. Send in the Drones...

If the big boys have this stuff, they have had 50 years and endless money to work on it. Do you really think a country like Iran or North Korea can compete with the USA and Russia together, maybe even toss China into the trio? Add the kids, England, France, Canada and others and what do you get.

I think we all know that real UFO tech if from Aliens would tear the world apart. Religion would be at bat to hold on to the power they have and all governments would be at risk for tax money. People would want every thing to be new. I still think, unless they have an incredible accident they can not control, this will still be a hundred years off. They will spoon feed us common people a little at a time so they stay in control.

Now if we ever got invaded, it would change in a heart beet. But I don't think that will happen. We are all just lab rats in a grooming session of someone's, waiting for the doors to open.

Deuem
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: zorgon on September 04, 2012, 12:40:18 PM
Quote from: Eighthman on September 03, 2012, 07:32:50 PM
Disclosure might be easier than we think.  How so?  Suppose UFO's make themselves pests?[

There will be no disclosure.. yawl don't have the need to know :P

QuoteUFO sightings are increasing and seem to be becoming bolder, with more daylight activity or brightly lit up at night.  If this trend increases, they will eventually interfere with airtraffic, delay takeoffs and become more of a nuisance than anything to be feared.

The UFO's that are increasing are the CRITTERS... Plasma life forms that are native to Earth and LEO and have always been here. The name CRITTERS was first coined in 1954

The have no problem avoiding our aircraft and I doubt we would have any damage if we flew into one :D

QuoteExcuses by authorities - writing off sightings as balloons, parachute flares or similar nonsense will fail as people demand, 'if you're doing this, stop!'

They can't let people know abut the CRITTERS :D  To big f a can of worms, but that is why they can say "They pose no threat to National Security"  They don't. You called them Foo Fighters in WWII  They never harmed one aircraft, just toyed with us :D

In my estimation, 80%ish are CRITTERS, 15% Black Ops craft and 5% the true visitors and there haven't een many of those in recent years :D

There ya go you just had real disclosure... but you won't believe me  even when NASA knows about them too :P

NASA Mission Control with CRITTER on screen... big sucker :P

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Critter/NASA_Control_005.png)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegasus/04images/Critter/bb261ab621b502c6.gif)
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: SarK0Y on September 04, 2012, 01:55:36 PM
Quote from: Eighthman on September 02, 2012, 11:23:09 PM
OK, skepticism understood.   Have you'all considered the possibility of competition in disclosure?  Hey, we've got antigravity craft and you beeotches got aircraft carriers?  or screw you and your hegemony, yankee - UFO's are real.

Perhaps this is the weakness in conspiracy theory. Can you really slavishly control other nations as to common secrets?

Could NASA really control the Soviets/Russkies as to what they found on Venus or elsewhere?
c'mon, Buddy! :) mostly so-called ufo's are only matter of Nature's effects, speculations/frauds & mental disorders. Just think why so f*Kingly powerful guys would allow humans w/ these funny-bunny "hi-tech" toys to detect 'emself. antigravity? :o Please, i beg of ye! ;D keep yourself from fairy tales of nasa pictures  as far as possible  :D
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 04, 2012, 02:45:32 PM
and here's Keshe's patent:

http://open-source-energy.org/rwg42985/geert8550/EP1770715A1.pdf

As for the rest, comrades,  Iran and other countries are active and proud and are unlikely to give up just because the US might have something better ( or not). Insha'allah.

And who sez the US does have anything better? That they made themselves? Isn't that why Lazar and others got hired and ended up scratching their heads?

And...... wasn't there some nasty buzzing of Chinese airports? and complaints from foreign pilots about UFO's ( the real kind, not just Foo Fighters) getting in the way?

The key to Full Disclosure: ET's being jerks and pests. It could happen.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 04, 2012, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: robomont on September 02, 2012, 11:36:39 PM
i believe you are right about some of that.

heres a few ideas.

iran admitted a couple years ago to having some kind of ufo tech.my belief is they didnt have a way to power them until they got nukes.i believe this is the real reason israel is pissed.not because iran may bomb israel.if iran wanted to,they could nuke israel right now.

next,if aliens are real,we dont want them to know what our ultimate weapon is.so nobody will ever know the truth unless we are invaded and then its probly too late.

Greetings:

Quoteiran admitted a couple years ago to having some kind of ufo tech.

Would you happen to have a shred of proof to that statement?

Quoteif iran wanted to,they could nuke israel right now.

And this one? How about a linky?

Peace Love Light

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Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 04, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
I think he may be referring to the Keshe thing. He's Iranian. He's making a lotta claims and promises to release new technology later this month.

Hard to know what to make of it.... but I strongly feel something is going on, behind the scenes.  Is it possible that ET's could go beyond just interfereing with nukes? John Kettler keeps saying that but he seems to be kind of a loon.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: sky otter on September 04, 2012, 03:51:31 PM


from Z' reply #11

QuoteThe UFO's that are increasing are the CRITTERS... Plasma life forms that are native to Earth and LEO and have always been here. The name CRITTERS was first coined in 1954

(http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/2468810.gif)  (http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/2468810.gif)   (http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/2468810.gif)

big DUH from me on this.. i never once considered the orbs as the critters

opens an entirely different avenue of thought

thank you ....thank you... thank you

8)    ;D
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Littleenki on September 04, 2012, 04:35:57 PM
Id have to agree with Z, the video I saw from LunaCognita was so indicative of their growing numbers...and my favorite part, their willingness to interact with us.

That willingness is a good sign, because humans and plasma dont mix well....at least not the arcing type of plasma!;)

Disclosure will be a beautiful thing if it is truly in an honest way, but I have a feeling our brainless leaders will want to stick their fingers in there somehow.

And lets hope Steven Greer is right about them being friendly.

Lets also hope the "critters" are wise to the evil our world can be capable of, or else they will be captured and harnessed for some sort of sick experiments.

I think they are....:D

Le
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 04, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
Another aspect regarding Disclosure - and free energy that gives me hope - suppose someone with real ability to expose the whole mess 'plays the fool'?

This was Anwar Sadat's strategy and it nearly ended Israel. They thought he was just a crazy blowhard threatening to attack.......surprize!

So, there could be someone out there, spilling a ton of nonsense and silliness - who trips up the PTB and reveals things that radically change the world.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Pimander on September 04, 2012, 07:05:24 PM
Disclosure?  That is seriously complicated.

Have we been visited by intelligent beings?  IMO yes.

Have we been subjected to massive amounts of lies about UFO's?  Yes.  Lots of UFOlogy is pure disinfo.

Wouldn't you be pissed off if you found out that most of the governement know next to nothing about UFOs and can't disclose anything and they are behind the lie many UFOlogists believe.

Disclosure?  Is it really likely?  Not for a long while.

Someone like you or me getting to the bottom of it.  Very good chance but when I tell you all the truth you won't believe me..... :P
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 04, 2012, 08:23:00 PM
Lemme add: we might think that the Aliens have no timetable or limit to how long they can wait to reveal themselves openly.....

but we don't know that.  The fact that they interfere with nukes is very significant.  They may feel obliged to act and change matters before we get any more matches and gasoline, technology-wise.  Free energy would be nice and it would go a long way towards ending division, poverty and war-making on earth.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: zorgon on September 04, 2012, 08:34:47 PM
Quote from: Eighthman on September 04, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
Is it possible that ET's could go beyond just interfering with nukes?

Its not ET interfering with the Nuke sites... The Plasma Critters are drawn to the power source just like they are to power stations and thunder storms. Their natural EM field triggered our older warning beepers which caused the computers to shut down the systems. The newer systems are EM protected

LOL I guess I better hurry up and do my Critter thread  :D

Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: zorgon on September 04, 2012, 09:19:47 PM
Here ya go..

DISCLOSURE LAS VEGAS STYLE :D

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/A51_nevada.png)

Just booked John and I :D
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 04, 2012, 09:27:19 PM
I was referring to nuclear missiles being shut down.  Also, many of these recent bold UFO sightings do not appear to be simple orbs but rather metallic craft, often lit with multicolored sources.

I just read that at the DNC, they dropped support for Israel from the platform, as well as references to "God".  Something's up.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Pimander on September 04, 2012, 10:59:54 PM
Quote from: Eighthman on September 04, 2012, 08:23:00 PM
The fact that they interfere with nukes is very significant. 
Stealth helicopters.  They were testing the security at nuclear installations.  At least some of the cases were.....


Did you know that the early stealth helicopters were tested at Area 51?

P.S. Just asking.  I know nothing obviously ;)
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Pimander on September 04, 2012, 11:03:42 PM
Quote from: zorgon on September 04, 2012, 09:19:47 PM
Just booked John and I :D
Pimander is available for bookings some time soon. :P
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: biggles on September 05, 2012, 12:23:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_8QFnrgccg
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Pimander on September 05, 2012, 12:28:46 AM
Or you're making it up and you never saw the video....

That may be true, it may be disinfo, but it is not strong evidence by itself.  The interferance with nukes at nuclear sites DID HAPPEN.
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Eighthman on September 05, 2012, 01:16:05 AM
Their interference with nuclear missiles may be one of the most hopeful things to occur in our lifetimes.

I don't necessarily believe their actions are because nuclear explosions blow a hole in their dimensions or whatever.  I say this because they evidently allowed a number of nuclear tests and Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The 'Tsar Bomba' test by the Soviets was tremendous. They let it happen.

Could it be...... they care about us?
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Pimander on September 05, 2012, 05:17:55 PM
Or could it be a top secret test of nuclear ground defences by stealth helicopters?  People not briefed fully (perhaps just base commanders and a few stealth copter pilots?) about what happened may never know the truth if that happened...

.... or it could be aliens.   8)
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: thorfourwinds on September 05, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
The Atomic Testing Museum and the NTSHF - Las Vegas, NV (http://www.nationalatomictestingmuseum.org/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIbcVs0xjts
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: Pimander on September 05, 2012, 06:04:27 PM
Nuclear testing..... that is linked to the use of the UFO disinfo program.  Think!  ;)
Title: Re: Necessary Steps Before Disclosure
Post by: robomont on September 05, 2012, 08:29:14 PM
i heard drone shootdown was a gps amplifier telling drone it was home.failsafe.then landed.
no real hacking involved.
but i too agree with the other stuff.