Keep on the lookout for any sort of rumors or stories about bizarre malfunctions of military equipment, unexplained random failures or breakdowns that defy repair.
Also, watch for any accounts of conventional weapons systems vanishing, showing up missing - almost to the point of accusations of major sabotage or incredible theft.
Why?
Because if such a thing started happening en masse, it would be strong evidence that something wonderful and extremely positive is emerging.
And what might that be?............
frankly, CCCP was destructed by no $-clans :)
And what might that be?............
Well, it just "might be" intervention by the one that spoke all of this into existence!!
Since your "proposition" presents what looks like supernatural, then to me that doesn't leave any other answer. And that intervention is in the prophecies already, so........................!
Quote from: rdunk on September 17, 2012, 08:11:28 PM
Well, it just "might be" intervention by the one that spoke all of this into existence!!
Seriously? You think that gray haired chap is going to selectively make weapons malfunction?
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Toons/okay.gif)
Eighthman, since Zorgon has ridiculed my answer, what did "YOU" possibly have in mind about the answer to your question of,
"And what might that be?............?"
(http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2914/64/30/69/smiles/748164.gif)
Quote from: Eighthman on September 17, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
Because if such a thing started happening en masse, it would be strong evidence that something wonderful and extremely positive is emerging.
And what might that be?............
Yes do tell... we are all ears :D
Quote from: rdunk on September 17, 2012, 09:54:51 PM
Eighthman, since Zorgon has ridiculed my answer, what did "YOU" possibly have in mind about the answer to your question of,
"And what might that be?............?"
(http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2914/64/30/69/smiles/748164.gif)
Jesus on Toast and a serve of poached egg no doubt whilst slobbering about for saviour .
Get a GRIP MAN.
Quote from: Eighthman on September 17, 2012, 04:01:03 PM
Keep on the lookout for any sort of rumors or stories about bizarre malfunctions of military equipment, unexplained random failures or breakdowns that defy repair.
Also, watch for any accounts of conventional weapons systems vanishing, showing up missing - almost to the point of accusations of major sabotage or incredible theft.
Why?
Because if such a thing started happening en masse, it would be strong evidence that something wonderful and extremely positive is emerging.
And what might that be?............
actually most malfunctions have run because outdated equipment, idiots & climate changing ;)
zorgon, I do think that sweet lady in your above reply would make a good fixture in our smiley collection here. She does express considerable emotion and characterization, with her eyes and her almost smile (mouth)!! ;)
Of course, I knew exactly what you meant, as you used it!! ;D
I am sure you can give her a good name, for her as a smiley!
actually most malfunctions have run because outdated equipment, idiots & climate changing
Eighthman, your answer does not relate to the conditions of your OP -------
i.e. -Because if such a thing started happening en masse, it would be strong evidence that something wonderful and extremely positive is emerging.
And what might that be?............ ?
Quote from: rdunk on September 17, 2012, 10:11:01 PM
zorgon, I do think that sweet lady in your above reply would make a good fixture in our smiley collection here. She does express considerable emotion and characterization, with her eyes and her almost smile (mouth)!! ;)
Ah having CARNAL thoughts I see :P
Yeah I can add her but its a huge file Maybe I can reduce the size first :D
Quote from: rdunk on September 17, 2012, 10:15:32 PM
actually most malfunctions have run because outdated equipment, idiots & climate changing
Eighthman, your answer does not relate to the conditions of your OP -------
i.e. -Because if such a thing started happening en masse, it would be strong evidence that something wonderful and extremely positive is emerging.
And what might that be?............ ?
it was not his answer ;)
SarKOY and Eigthman - sorry, I just got in too big of hurry with my question, made a mistake, in replying to SarKOY's post. Sooooooorrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeee!!
I have tried to post previously but it seems to have disappeared.
I believe there is sufficient evidence that ET's exist and that they have interfered with nuclear weapons.
Since they have been visiting us for millenia but avoiding open exposure, then something like a "Prime Directive" must exist.
However, their interference with nuclear weapons would act as the other extreme - which creates a huge gap in which intervention is avoided.
If they have decided to take a further step into this gap of inaction, it may be to prevent large scale wars. There seem to be many contactees or channelers who believe this about Iran.
If they move in this direction, then it is important for them to avoid doing anything that triggers a war accidentally, while trying to prevent war from happening. A plane crash or sinking ship can easily be blamed on the enemy, regardless of how it took place.
Therefore, the 'thing to do' would be to create bizarre failures, random malfunctions or incredible disappearances of weapons systems. The key point is that they would defy explanation as enemy action.
John Kettler has been making claims such as this. I have not found him to be credible as yet but I concede that he may be on to something.
I wonder about all those F-22's and F-35's...........
Quote from: zorgon on September 17, 2012, 08:17:43 PM
Seriously? You think that gray haired chap is going to selectively make weapons malfunction?
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Toons/okay.gif)
Shhhh... you might have an effigy burned or be called upon for your head. ;D
QuoteWhy?
Because if such a thing started happening en masse, it would be strong evidence that something wonderful and extremely positive is emerging.
And what might that be?............
Or....perhaps all that spyware,malware,spam,trojans,counterfeit parts, & fake parts have all made it past the devices warranty period and are now activated,dectivated,recording,etc. ;D No divine intervention here, just outsourced sabatoge and poor policy allowing it to happen.
Quote from: Somamech on September 17, 2012, 10:07:46 PM
Jesus on Toast and a serve of poached egg no doubt whilst slobbering about for saviour .
Get a GRIP MAN.
Is that Jesus ON toast or Jesus-toast? ;D
(http://cooltoast.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Jesus_Toast_Grilled_Cheese.jpg)
http://cooltoast.com/ (http://cooltoast.com/)
There is a site called Cool Toast! LMAO ;D
I suffered greatly from the 'Happli' virus. I would expect that military types know enough to use anti-virus software. Nor would such malware explain bizarre disappearances, should such occur.
Damn, I was expecting Gort and Klatu to make an encore visit of "the day the earth stood still." 8)
By the way, Zorg, I have the full length original of that classic on dvd; just haven't had time to rip it and upload it for you...
seeker
8th man..
you already have the answer
I have not found him to be credible as yet ...I have not found him to be credible as yet .. I have not found him to be credible as yet ..I have not found him to be credible as yet
ain't no one comin to save us, my friend..we made the mess we have to clean it up...
we can but i it doesn't look like we're going to...sigh
Iran Atomic Chief Says 'Explosives' Cut Power at Fordo Facility
http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/53870-iran-atomic-chief-says-explosives-cut-power-at-fordo-facility
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Iran claims sabotage at nuclear plants
By Middle East correspondent Matt Brown, wires
Updated 5 hours 14 minutes ago
Photo: Sabotage claim: Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility (file photo: AFP Photo)
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Iran's nuclear chief has accused the International Atomic Energy Agency (IEAE) of being infiltrated by terrorists and saboteurs.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-18/iran-claims-sabotage-at-nuclear-plant/4266792
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Ahem.........(clearing throat)
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/pogo/2012/07/air-force-claims-to-have-solved-f-22-mystery-however-some-questions-remain-unanswered.html
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/05/f-22-fighter-whistleblowers-fully-protected-air-force/
Was this sub ever found? Is the report credible?
http://planet.infowars.com/worldnews/german-dolphin-sub-with-500-kiloton-nuke-goes-missing
Oh, and your "Strange Event" thread might reasonably fit into this scenario.
ET's screwing up nuke plants, quietly. Reminds me of an old WW2 era Bugs Bunny cartoon with cheerful gremlins running around with large mallets.
Here we go with another:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/12/06/276480/israel-has-warplane-engines-stolen/
Somebody walks off with Israeli F-16 engines? Really? What, with a wheelbarrow, perhaps?
I hope to keep revisiting this topic, from time to time.
I would remind you of Sleeper's point: Extraterrestrials can inject seminal thoughts amidst the human race, as they wish. This fact alone should tell you that they can radically change human society without exposing their existence - and I suspect this may be happening.
Watch for incidents that seem out of place - such as Justice Roberts saving Obamacare, the odd emergence of a drift away from the usual blind support of Israel (preventing war with Iran and more), or Gun Control Hysteria blowing up in the faces of wanna- be tyrants (gun shops sold out).
It could be happening......
Perhaps they are ushering in the transhumanist agenda? ???
I realize this involves intuition and emotion but......
I have NEVER FELT such an overwhelming sense of the "Impending" - as if huge events are due to occur soon. Not war or any Apocalypse but big changes that alter human history permanently.
And all of those changes begin with thought. Change thoughts, change the world.
Elsewhere in the world, things didn't go so well. Awakened forces seized control of Siberia, much to the Russkies' chagrin. Russia's western neighbors seemed to appreciate the move, however, and Belarus and the Ukraine tried to secede in 2031. The Russians, who were getting their hoops kicked by Siberian magic and were starved for resources, figured they had to regain control of their western border and rolled in the troops. Inevitably, Poland got involved, and when the Russians stepped on them, so did a lot of other countries. It all exploded in a conflict that would last for more than a dozen years, predictably dubbed the Euro-Wars. The hard-core fighting only lasted until 2033, however, when one of the weirdest incidents of this century nipped it in the bud.
In the dead of night on January 23, 2033, Swedish airspace monitors detected several flights of what they took to be British Aerospace Nightwraith fighter-bombers streaking across northern Europe. In short order, the aircraft obliterated key communications and command centers belonging to all sides. That same night, unknown assassins nailed more than a dozen key commanders. The combatants announced a cease-fire the following day. (Neither the Brits nor anyone else ever claimed responsibility for the Nightwraith strike; in fact, every single government that might plausibly have been involved made a point of publicly denying it. Whodunit remains a mystery to this day.)
-- And So It Came To Pass (http://old.shadowrun4.com/resources/timeline.shtml)
Speaking of which; you know how most people think of the Otherkin and Furries as just mentally ill freaks? Check this out, from the same page.
On April 30, 2021, all over the world, one out of every ten adults suddenly metamorphosized into hideous humanoid shapes. Soon the phenomenon started to afflict children; some were born "monsters," while others changed soon after puberty. The media, with its unerring instinct for sensational buzzwords, dubbed the process "goblinization." Before long, the afflicted were called "orks" and "trolls" after the creatures from fantasy that they resembled.
The earlier wave of UGE had been frightening enough; goblinization reduced just about everyone to either gibbering terror or vicious fits of hatefulness toward the victims. Fearing that it might be contagious, governments all over the world begin rounding up metahumans and their families. In North America, the bulk of these unfortunates got shoved into the same camps that had once held Native Americans, and they fared just about as well. The Japanese Empire went us one better, forcibly relocating metahumans to the godforsaken island of Yomi in the Philippines. Meanwhile, race riots wracked the globe on a scale never before seen. The smart or the lucky among the world's metahumans went into hiding—underground, into the wilderness, or in communities of their own kind. The unlucky died in droves.
That was written in 1989. When I first heard about the Otherkin, I remembered the above, and it made me wonder.
sorry only read the last few posts here
and 8th man
QuoteI realize this involves intuition and emotion but......
I have NEVER FELT such an overwhelming sense of the "Impending" - as if huge events are due to occur soon. Not war or any Apocalypse but big changes that alter human history permanently.
And all of those changes begin with thought. Change thoughts, change the world.
i totally agree with your statement here
but
i need to qualify why
i feel we need to really R E A L L Y get our intuition and space smarts to come on line so we will know who is who in the currently beginning program...it will come down to one on one intell
and without realizing your skills you will be guessing..that's not good enough
all the reading on forums is no good if your ability to differenciate real from fiction doesn't work
we all have the tools to work the mental muscle and if you haven't already started..you better not put it off ...
imo meditation is a good start but you had better fast track your skills
Quote from: rdunk on September 17, 2012, 10:11:01 PM
zorgon, I do think that sweet lady in your above reply would make a good fixture in our smiley collection here. She does express considerable emotion and characterization, with her eyes and her almost smile (mouth)!! ;)
Of course, I knew exactly what you meant, as you used it!! ;D
I am sure you can give her a good name, for her as a smiley!
Yeah I kinda stared at that gif for a minute or two lol.
Very interesting thread and links,a greate read for sure. I don`t question the existence of ET`S and to lend support to your theory I present this video of Bob Jacobs.
Skywatcher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8wFmtr05Ko
Intuition and good sense are all we have left. The world is too complex and overloaded with deception to judge events too precisely. Was 9/11 an inside job? Did one gunman kill Kennedy? We can only guess.
As for ET influence currently, take a look at Obama and his nominee, Chuck Hagel. Hagel once made statements about the complete abolition of nuclear weapons - and that area is the only notable subject in Obama's undistinguished legislative past, as far as I know.
They would represent what the ET's want.
Let me repeat the critical point here, as to this thread: this information may be the greatest and most wonderful hope for humanity. Somebody up there is vastly more powerful than we are and is willing to intervene, although in a limited way at present.
What else are they up to? That's the question.
One more thing - that may be happening to the world - that no one seems to be noticing:
Massive, comprehensive Exposure
I have never observed or experienced such a powerful trend as exists now. Everyday, there's some new 'revelation' of a conspiracy or mass crime. Kennedy's ? Rothschilds? 9/11? The Federal Reserve? UFO's? The Breakaway Civilization? Flying Triangles? WW2 Revisionist History? Hitler wasn't so crazy?
Need I go on? Why this constant exposure? Is there an overall purpose?
There could be. Suppose human society was due to receive a general change towards ESP/Psychic ability?
Perhaps it would be necessary to get society ready, with all the warts and horrors exposed now, to prevent the shock of a sudden revealing later. Are we being made ready for something like "Ascension" that the channelers yammer on about?
I guess we'll see......
i've thought about this constant exposure on a lot of levels
the vampires
the end of the world
magic and wizards
religions all being the right one and the kill all others
conspiracies up the ying yang on every level
killing and stealing on every level
it's overkill on info/intell/ whatever
what happens when things are over exposed.....when everything seems to be set on loud
think about it a minute
....they zone out .......................NOTHING is REAL anymore
You raise a fair point and I've thought about that. Perhaps if everything seems to be exposed, people do zone out or just give up.
It tends to further degrade the legitimacy of all authority - political, religious, scientific. This may be leading us into a huge system reset as well. It may fit an ET agenda overall - being prepared for radical
Quote from: sky otter on January 14, 2013, 01:44:04 AM
....they zone out .......................NOTHING is REAL anymore
... and the next step is they become mindless sheep again :D
It's called "Natural Progression"
Quote from: Eighthman on January 14, 2013, 12:51:19 AM
Perhaps it would be necessary to get society ready, with all the warts and horrors exposed now, to prevent the shock of a sudden revealing later. Are we being made ready for something like "Ascension" that the channelers yammer on about?
Ascension is a continual process; it isn't a single event, after which suddenly, bam! You're ascended. If I temporarily become more positive, you could say I've incrementally ascended; but if I then become negative, I descend again. In the New Age context, ascension means transcorporeal migration, but I think that is a bit of a misdefinition, personally. I see it as a continual rising, and as such, you take two steps forward, and one step back.
Holy Cow! In the past 3 days - RFK Jr. said he and his family think JFK was killed by a conspiracy and more than one gunman and
They're gonna reopen the case of Natalie Wood's death and
A Mob Boss in Detroit declared he has info about Jimmy Hoffa and
Two witnesses claim Jimmy Savile did Satanic rituals while molesting kids.
It's like everything is being opened up, exposed. Those ET's are up to something, I tell ya.....
Is it the apocalypse (unveiling)?