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Not only did J.P. Morgan cancel his trip, but also on board was John Jacob Astor - one of the richest men at that time ... and a very good friend of Tesla.
He believed in all the Tesla's patents, the one that he was planning on investing after the Titanic trip was Tesla's Flying Machine (that was still in the time when they didn't have any commercial flights).
John Astor also believed in Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower Project and was fully prepared to invest his fortune for the benefit of all mankind. Astor was keen in replacing our oil based fuel for more eco-friendly source of energy... in other words, ALL of the Tesla patents that never been made into an actual machine including Tesla's Wardenclyffe would be functional even today if Astor haven't died on the Titanic!
"There were 6 ice warnings received by Titanic on the day of the collision. They were all ignored by the wireless operator who was preoccupied with transmitting passenger messages."
THAT MAKES ME WONDER WAS TITANIC SINKING 'ONLY' AN ACCIDENT OR IS THERE SOMETHING MORE??
There were on the Titanic some more highly successful bankers like Benjamin Guggenheim and Isa Strauss who opposed J.P. Morgan.
OUR WORLD WOULD BE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PLACE IF TITANIC DIDN'T SINK!
Just makes you wonder :)
Yes it does; but how would they have managed it. I mean didn't they try to avoid colliding at the last minute with the iceberg.
It does make you think though.
Also, JP Morgan wasnt the only elitist to benefit from the sinking of the Titanic...er..Brittanic.
There is a conspiracy theory floating around about how the Titanic had been replaced by the Brittanic, but many dont know why the real reason it was done came to be.
A friend and I had a discussion about this recently, and he has been working on an article about how one one of her first shakedown cruises the Brittanic had an unfortunate accident with another ship which cracked her keel and spine.
This type of damage is virtually impossible to repair, so what the White Star Line did was to take Titanic and refit her as the Brittanic, and then use the damaged Brittanic in Titanic's place. They knew if the Brittanic stayed in service she eventually would have to be removed at a great loss, and so they replaced her with the brand new Titanic and made Brittanic the ship which eventually sank...on purpose.
Plates were welded into place on Brittanic to make her look identical to the Titanic from an outer standpoint, but behind the false plates were balconies and not rooms which was how Titanic was supposed to be.A whole host of false and cosmetic modifications were done to Brittanic under the guise of repairs, and soon she was a duplicate, albeit only cosmetically, of Titanic.
Then, in a complete and utter refusal to navigate with any respect for the ice ahead, they sailed her right into an iceberg, hoping to damage her enough to get full compensation from the insurance companies. The previous damage just wouldnt bring a full payout, se she had to get whacked good..and become an unusable ship and be totalled in the process.
Well, the unsinkable became the sinkable and everything went awry, and in the course of the mayhem many opponents of JP Morgan were washed to the bottom. Astor was just the "tip of the iceberg" shall we say? There were numerous people on that ship some who were given their tickets as gifts from certain unknown sources, so they would be on it when it was damaged by the iceberg, for whatever reasons.
The original idea was to just delay the ship, and hopefully lose some of the competition through them freezing in lifeboats or being in the water, as the ship which was nearby all along sailed in the opposite direction.
The main crux of the event was the insurance claim though, not the murdering of Astor, which wouldve been a massive undertaking to kill one man when in those days espionage was quite prolific.
Astor's death was just icing on the cake for Morgan, and Tesla's investor was lost forever.
Le
Dave, I thought that it was the sister ship, The olimpic, the britanic was the 3rd ship in the 3 ship line. Somewhere I have that full documentary of the switching of the ships. Ballards film sort of iced it when he filmed the letters on the bow and two letters that were ingraved under the add on letters showed a different name. I think it was M and P that showed up. The propeller was also number 401 from the other ship.
If you can see a berg for 5 miles, it is easy to hit. Just steer for it. Deuem
Quote from: deuem on October 03, 2012, 12:33:50 PM
Dave, I thought that it was the sister ship, The olimpic, the britanic was the 3rd ship in the 3 ship line. Somewhere I have that full documentary of the switching of the ships. Ballards film sort of iced it when he filmed the letters on the bow and two letters that were ingraved under the add on letters showed a different name. I think it was M and P that showed up. The propeller was also number 401 from the other ship.
If you can see a berg for 5 miles, it is easy to hit. Just steer for it. Deuem
Youre right, Dueum, memory fart! LOL!
It was Olympic..DOH!
So many ships so little memory!:D
Nigel had told me so many factors which contributed to the theory, it was unbelievable it didnt hold more water..;)
And yes, that ship had ample time to line up perfectly with the iceberg, especially on a clear night. I wonder how many knew about the plan who were on board..it would have been quite a frightening experience even knowing it was going to happen and having a lifeboat planned for the captain already.
If the elites can do something this large back then, imagine what they are capable of now... :o
Cheers!
Wonder why 9/11 comes to mind....
Hi Dave, Ok on the brain fart, I have them also but you are still younger so be careful.
In a way, the actual accident almost looks like they changed their mind at the last moment or had a fight on the bridge. If memory serves me at all, I think they said that the ship could have made a direct hit with the berg and not sink. It would have buckled the bow back into the ship but not have the over the bulk head water problems.
I think the ship was designed for a head on collision to start with. Now that would have been enough to scrap her. After all the people were off the boat, they would have opened some valves and let her sink and no one would have asked any questions. If in the meantime, some of the passengers fell into the water to get rid of them, it would be a benefit for the owner. After all, even today it is unbelievable that they really went down that far to see her on the bottom. Who would have thought that back then?
Deuem
Your exactly right Dueum..spot on..:D
LE