From: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/the-airforce/
QuoteOfficially, aliens have never existed but flying saucers very nearly did. The National Archives has recently published never-before-seen schematics and details of a 1950s military venture, called Project 1794, which aimed to build a supersonic flying saucer.
The newly declassified materials show the U.S. Air Force had a contract with a now-defunct Canadian company to build an aircraft unlike anything seen before. Project 1794 got as far as the initial rounds of product development and into prototype design. In a memo dating from 1956 the results from pre-prototype testing are summarized and reveal exactly what the developers had hoped to create.
Heh.
Well, well, well....I recognize those instantly.
One of them is Avro Patent #3022963
(http://www.laesieworks.com/ifo/lib/AVRO-pict/Patent-3022963/Patent-3022963-P2.gif)
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http://www.laesieworks.com/ifo/lib/AVRO-Patent%203022963.html (http://www.laesieworks.com/ifo/lib/AVRO-Patent%203022963.html)
Another one looks like it could be an Avro Viper but I haven't found much on that one.
More fortification for the existence of the nazi ufos. Nice find...gold.
Total disinformation, and that design couldn't possibly yield supersonic flight.
To me, this appears to be a guvmental attempt at hiding the real flying saucers they already had up-and-running that did not rely on jets or rockets for propulsion.
They have to feed the masses something...it won't be the good stuff.
How is this disinfo?
Just another distraction along with a little more smoke and new mirrors...considering the Avrocar info has been in the public domain for at least the last 30 years or so... I am still of the opinion that the tech gap between black and public domain is at least 40 or more years... the B2, still classified 1980's tech, utilises flame jet generators patented in the early 60's by T.T. Brown, can fly from Missouri to Iraq and back nonstop without refueling...
So yeah, just another distraction for Joe Sixpack and his boob tube manifesto...
seeker
Quote from: Ellirium113 on October 06, 2012, 01:04:08 AM
They have to feed the masses something...it won't be the good stuff.
How is this disinfo?
It is 'disinformation' in that it is a saucer shaped craft with a turbine powerplant (unclassified tech) built to fool the masses into believing that any flying saucers were built with such pre-existing technology.
This project was intended to deceive the masses into believing that any flying saucers seen were human made and with plain-jane propellers or turbines.
The disinfo is still being spread too, as in the title of this new 'Wired magazine' article it is suggesting that this design could be flown faster than Mach 1...when it cannot. That design could not go faster than a couple hundred mph at best...far less than Mach 1 or greater. Wired Magazine said it, therefore it must be true...
QuoteThe disinfo is still being spread too, as in the title of this new 'Wired magazine' article it is suggesting that this design could be flown faster than Mach 1...when it cannot. That design could not go faster than a couple hundred mph at best...far less than Mach 1 or greater. Wired Magazine said it, therefore it must be true...
Well we had best not take their word for it. ;)
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Technically it is not disinformation...it is a distraction.
LMFAO!!! 1720 mph? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The avro could barely stay upright!
I am pretty familiar with the concept of 'disinformation'. One of the domains I own and operate is 'disinformant.info'. There is not much to see there yet, but if you want a USA made foil hat I can make one for you. ;) $10 shipped to your door!
Does Alien Tech involve Human like Propulsion Systems ?
Any "Back Engineered Tech." won't involve Propulsion type Systems unless
it comes from our half breed Ancestors.
The Real stuff can't crash, neither can it malfunction, and doesn't involve
"Propulsion Based Systems" anything like our crude human efforts. ;D
avro had two plants operating on opposite sides of a large airport,this was because the russians had infiltrated the first one.so the gov created junk at that site.
that is the junk they have released to the public.
on the stealth bomber having flame jets,how do they hide the heat signature? i do believe they are using a hv leading edge for propulsion.that is the metallic strip on the leading edge of the plane.my guess the turbofan somehow generates the hv.
winged vehicles work great at low altitudes but have no use in space except to mount orientation thrusters.
so my guess,if its round,it came from space or under the ocean.
Avro seemed like a front to me also. It was purchased by the US and never heard of again.
Using my limmited knowledge of flight. In and out of the Earths atmoshere. If I were to design a craft, I would think of a backup design within the craft for some kind of atmospheric lift. If my engines failed and I had none (wings) then I would drop like a stone. Any lifting surface would at least let me crash and have a chance.
Since the lifting portion (wing) of the craft does noting in space, who cares? even in the most common UFO we are shown like Lazars Sport model is designed with a lifting body. It should supply some lift in any dirrection it goes. Any lift is better than being a Borg Cube. They would drop like a stone. So I would take that into the design factors and add wings or a lifting body that at least gives me 20:1 Using a 100:1 would be better if possible. That is for every foot you drop, you fly 100 feet. Deuem
Quote from: IRCyborg on October 06, 2012, 12:58:58 AM
Total disinformation, and that design couldn't possibly yield supersonic flight.
To me, this appears to be a guvmental attempt at hiding the real flying saucers they already had up-and-running that did not rely on jets or rockets for propulsion.
You may note My final comment in the OP: "Heh." That is sort of My "Yeah, right" response. I was pretty sure it was BS. But... It's Breaking "News." ::)
Quote from: IRCyborg on October 06, 2012, 12:58:58 AM
Total disinformation, and that design couldn't possibly yield supersonic flight.
Precisely. The avro was practically useless.
Quote from: Ellirium113 on October 06, 2012, 01:04:08 AM
How is this disinfo?
Are you being serious? It is disinfo. So is most of the Nazi UFO hype. {Sorry Zorgon :P}
Quote from: Ellirium113 on October 06, 2012, 12:27:27 AM
More fortification for the existence of the nazi ufos. Nice find...gold.
In what way? ???
Well, certainly...this farmed out Canadian "project" didn't truly ever have any tennis balls, now did it? You gotta love any schem/BP of any disc-shaped craft...however...
Paperclip didn't occur for nothing, did it.
Paulie
well if the craft had an ionized bubble around it then there is no top speed,just top energy output.
Quote from: pschrier on October 07, 2012, 07:31:00 AM
Paperclip didn't occur for nothing, did it.
No, it occurred to steal the Nazi's rocket technology before the Soviets did.
Quote from: robomont on October 06, 2012, 07:33:23 AM
on the stealth bomber having flame jets,how do they hide the heat signature? i do believe they are using a hv leading edge for propulsion.that is the metallic strip on the leading edge of the plane.my guess the turbofan somehow generates the hv.
Friend, there is a very detailed thread here on the b2; the leading edge is indeed positive as the exhaust stream is negative charged; once up to speed the main engines are shut down...
seeker