Cortez, Colorado is going to host Darkside-50. I'm not really up on this project, but maybe some of the folks here are? I imagine the project may help the economy of southwestern Colorado. Not much down there besides tourism, and a lot of people have never even heard of Cortez. Anyway, it seemed like the subject might be a good fit here. BTW, the scenery around Durango and Cortez is gorgeous.
Shasta
Dark matter does not exist, nor does dark energy. (not in the ratios they say it does anyway)
Dark entities do not control the fate of the Universe.
If someone off the street came up to you and said "Hey man! Did you know that a dark entity controls the Universe?", how would you reply?
What is so hilarious about the subject is that the science world keep pushing their dark matter/energy poop on everybody as though it were a fact...yet even though the Universe is said to be filled with 90%+ of the stuff, nobody has ever detected it.
There is, however, something with physical properties that occupies all that space between atoms.... In the past, it was called Luminiferous Aether....aka Light.
Science is trying to tell us that Darkness controls us.
Religion is trying to tell us that Darkness tries to control us.
People need to wake the F up!!!
I thought people here might find the subject interesting. Dark entities running the universe sounds more like a subject for the religion area. Dark mater may or may not be a reality. That's what the project in Cortez is supposed to explore.
Shasta
Not sure of the 'religious' implications of this project? It's title 'Darkside-50' should give you a clue.
Choose wisely.
I bow to Amaterssu's wisdom in how she chooses to moderate this topic. This is her area.
Shasta
I'm not even sure what it's about... LOL! Guess I will do a little searching when I wake up tomorrow. Ready to keel over here tonight. Expect more from Me in the morn.
Heres an article about the darkside 50 testing...
Darkside..a dark matter detector...
http://people.umass.edu/egpa/DarkSide.html
QuoteIn the past few decades, astrophysical and cosmological observations have yielded very convincing evidence that the visible objects in the sky, such as planets, stars, galaxies and inter-galactic dust makes up a mere ~4% of the total energy density of the universe. We have essentially no idea what the remaining 96% is. The study of the velocity profile of stars as a function of their distance from the center of the galaxy they belong to was the first clue for the presence of an invisible, massive constituent of the universe, i.e. subject to gravity but with no electromagnetic interaction. More recent observation of gravitational lensing effects and remnants of the collision of clusters of galaxies allow us to quantify such unknown massive component at ~22% of the energy density of the universe. The remaining 74% is in the form of unknown, dark energy that seems to be responsible for the accelerated expansion if the universe
Well, if they find the darkside out in Colorado, Shasta, will you share it with us? ;)
Cheers!
Dave, if they finf dark matter in Cortez, we will go celebrate in four different states, and the visit the Grand Canyon and meteor crater. I know Cortez can use the economic boost that the experiment will provide. I can't promise I'll do much research. My role here may be to ask questions and suggest topics. I'm already behind where I should be on my nursing progam. Life keeps happening.
Shasta
what if there is no bottom?no smallest particle.to infinity
Quote from: robomont on October 07, 2012, 07:38:34 AM
what if there is no bottom?no smallest particle.to infinity
Then then eightfold way collapses and the standard model will be called into question...the result is a complete shakeup to the nano-physics crowd, and something they sure don't want.
Quote from: Littleenki on October 07, 2012, 05:01:10 AM
Heres an article about the darkside 50 testing...
Darkside..a dark matter detector...
http://people.umass.edu/egpa/DarkSide.html
Well, if they find the darkside out in Colorado, Shasta, will you share it with us? ;)
Cheers!
Thanks, LE!
Quote from: IRCyborg on October 06, 2012, 09:07:22 PM
Dark matter does not exist, nor does dark energy. (not in the ratios they say it does anyway)
I am of the opinion that Dark Matter does not exist. I am pretty sure Dark Energy (zero point, radiant (Tesla), orgone (Reich), "vacuum"/plenum energy) does. Not sure the proportions... Heard several guesstimates. Which are You speaking of?
As for religious discussion here - as long as no One proclaims They have the only truth, offering ideas and thoughts are fine relative to The Abundance Paradigm and its pieces.
Quote from: Amaterasu. I am pretty sure Dark Energy (zero point, radiant (Tesla), orgone (Reich), "vacuum"/plenum energy) does. Not sure the proportions... Heard several guesstimates. Which are You speaking of?
You are referring to the Aether, and it is definitely not dark. Luminiferous Aether.
If you prefer to see it as dark then you will know where your true intent is.
Just using the "scientific" term - as of late, at any rate. Of course it is not DARK. *I* tend to call it PLENUM energy, and usually surround the term, "dark," with quotation marks (sorry to have failed in My last post).
So You still did not answer the question I asked... "Not sure the proportions... Heard several guesstimates. Which are You speaking of?"
Quote from: Amaterasu on October 07, 2012, 07:31:26 PM
Just using the "scientific" term - as of late, at any rate. Of course it is not DARK. *I* tend to call it PLENUM energy, and usually surround the term, "dark," with quotation marks (sorry to have failed in My last post).
So You still did not answer the question I asked... "Not sure the proportions... Heard several guesstimates. Which are You speaking of?"
The cosmology I work from is different than the current 'quantum mechanics / Relativity / big bang' model that mainstream science pushes.
I cannot answer you these proportions of 'dark matter' versus 'dark energy' because they do not exist. 0/0 = 0
Vera Rubin looked at some pictures of Andromeda and figured something out...something that spelled out the deathknell for the idea that empty space (the vacuum) has no physical properties.
Since Einstein couldn't wrap his mind around the concept of duality that his own theorizing suggested in the first place, he eventually gave up his belief in the all-pervading Luminiferous Aether. In other words, he couldn't explain how photons could still demonstrate duality when they are supported by a medium; the 'particle' part of his theory becomes unnecessary.
If the Aether exists, it forms a cosmology where all that reside within it are connected on a fundamental level. Oneness.
If the empty space in between matter is true nothingness, then all entities residing within that emptiness are detached and separated. No Oneness.
So it comes full circle now, because Vera Rubin observed a phenomenon that dashed the very premise of Einsteins 'in vacuo' cosmological picture. Rather than taking another look at how the Luminiferous Aether actually works, the mainstream scientists looked in another direction. A dark direction, and this is what is now being oushed onto the people by Science... A dark picture where each of us are separated and not connected.
Mainstream science has been usurped. If you insist on believing that a dark entity, of any kind matter/energy/spirit, is in control of the fate of the Universe then you need to re-evaluate what you want your future to be like. If you want a darkened world where everybody is detached and separated from you, then keep on believing in the Darkened.
If you would rather see a world of Light and connectivity with all Living Beings, then you need to purge all such darkened ideas from your desires and shun those who try to tell you differently.
Nothingness cannot be proven. Oneness can.
I asked that question because You said, "Dark matter does not exist, nor does dark energy. (not in the ratios they say it does anyway)."
I replied that DM does not exist, and DE does. I added a number of other terms by which the manifestation of DE is called. And then asked about the ratios YOU see as existing.
What is Your opinion of LaViolette's Subquantum Kinetics (SQK)? In His view, "particles" are standing waves of the aether. I prefer His theory over relativity by a long shot.
And again... *I* don't think of the energy as "dark." It is vibrant and vital.
EDIT to add: I have had personal experience with the One I AM/We ARE... No need to prove it to Me.
(not in the ratios they say it does anyway).
What I meant by that is that it is possible/probable/ or even likely that non-atomic (hadron, electrons) matter exists out there floating around in the Cosmic soup. A better term for this would be 'exotic matter'.
When it comes to black holes, I don't view them as dark or black. I view them also as Light. Just because we cannot 'see' it does not mean it is without Light.
I agree, IRC. Just because We cannot "see" it does not mean it is without light. EVERYTHING is light/Consciousness.
Back to My second question: What is Your opinion of LaViolette's Subquantum Kinetics (SQK)? In His view, "particles" are standing waves of the aether.
Quote from: Amaterasu on October 07, 2012, 09:31:21 PM
Back to My second question: What is Your opinion of LaViolette's Subquantum Kinetics (SQK)? In His view, "particles" are standing waves of the aether.
Never heard of it.
I view mass somewhat similarly to how one sees bubbles in 7-up. There is more to it than that, but that is how I see it in its most basic form.
Quote from: IRCyborg on October 07, 2012, 09:37:42 PM
I view mass somewhat similarly to how one sees bubbles in 7-up. There is more to it than that, but that is how I see it in its most basic form.
That's my take on matter/aether. :)
Quote from: IRCyborg on October 07, 2012, 09:37:42 PM
Never heard of it.
I view mass somewhat similarly to how one sees bubbles in 7-up. There is more to it than that, but that is how I see it in its most basic form.
Quote from: Pimander on October 07, 2012, 09:41:02 PM
That's my take on matter/aether. :)
And that is basically what SQK offers. I do recommend looking into LaViolette's work.
Quote from: Amaterasu on October 07, 2012, 10:23:04 PM
And that is basically what SQK offers. I do recommend looking into LaViolette's work.
It isn't LaViolette's work. He is merely reiterating prior art.
I do like that the idea that Tired Light is being explored once again and that it seems to be showing itself as a closer fit to observation. Instinctively I knew this, but when I was in the thick of my own research there was very little data from the mainstream that supported it.
On Laviolette's site, etheric.com, he directs the interested to buy his books...and I am flat broke.
It seems that everybody has a book to sell, but they didn't notice the bookstores are going out of business and the libraries are thinning their book selection.
think of fine dust nothing can move through it.if dark matter exist it has to someway become fluid or the planets and such would have no motion.if its fluid then there is a gap between the atoms.if theres a gap then there is something even smaller.n
Quote from: IRCyborg on October 07, 2012, 10:46:12 PM
It isn't LaViolette's work. He is merely reiterating prior art.
I do believe that SQK is His own work. He started with chemical kinetics and dropped it down to the subquantum level, discovering an intimate link between EM and gravity and, though He did not know it initially, a prediction of the Biefeld-Brown Effect. He struggled with that prediction until He encountered Brown's work and found that SQK predicted exactly what Brown was showing experimentally.
Yes, other of His work is a reiteration. But I am quite positive SQK is His.