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Title: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on October 31, 2012, 06:32:23 PM
Hi, Among other things I have type 2 diabetes, as well as other family members.
My doctor prescribed Metformin HCL.
I am also taking Curcumin C3 complex..
Any other suggestions (other than dietary reform, which I hate, but am doing) ??
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Andy








Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Back on October 31, 2012, 08:38:03 PM
Hi Andy
I am not a DR.
With that out of the way you might look into green bean tea or oragon(miss spelled) grape root. Those two kept me off meds for about 4 years.
Just last week a friend said that his mom started on green coffee bean extract and lowered her average from 180 to 122. I did look into it and I plan on trying it. I hope to get some next trip to town. I hope this Saturday.
Again I am not a DR this just what I have tried so far.
Back
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: robomont on October 31, 2012, 08:40:31 PM
beans corn and squash were the main staples for native americans not bleached white flower.
my family has it too.
exercise or die.
i wish i had a better answer.
good luck.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: sky otter on October 31, 2012, 09:37:58 PM

hi Andy
to be healthy is work.. and i think you are on a good track there
i am no doctor so take that into consideration when you read my list

first off i would find a naturopathic doctor and have myself tested
(blood and saliva) to see if there were imbalances other than from the pancreas
and/or  food allergies..
.it's amazing how food allergies can be a source of such havoc in the body
food really is medicine and if it is tainted with junk..guess what
we need to know what ingredients of stuff  is going down the hatch

accupuncture is an aid that might help reduce the amount of meds

i don't know you so i don't know where you stand on meditation/ affirmations and such
but both can be useful tools

after saying that i would make a very loose suggestion to check out
Louise Hay's book entitled you can heal your life
not to be used directly for anything other than a way of checking in with yourself
as to the why of some things and how some things manifest in the body
you may be well past this stage.
i only recommend it as a primer if someone has never considered the body mind connection

my sister was a juvenile diabetic (no history..shock can be an onset of much)
and before she rolled a jeep and was killed at 29
she had completely gotten off all meds and was doing well
how long or if it would have lasted had she lived..we'll never know

blessings to you and much luck on your road to discovery

;D 8)
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on October 31, 2012, 11:38:19 PM
Thanks ...Sky Otter 'll start looking for that book, I'll have to see if there are any naturopath MD's around here that my health plan covers.....I have changed my diet drastically at this point and I thought there might be a natural herb that my google searches didn't turn up. Or some sort of homeopathic remedy.All the help was appreciated.
Andy
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: petrus4 on November 01, 2012, 03:20:11 AM
Quote from: sky otter on October 31, 2012, 09:37:58 PM
she had completely gotten off all meds and was doing well
how long or if it would have lasted had she lived..we'll never know

I believe that the majority of contemporary disease is caused by the fact that when industrial processes produce toxic wastes, rather than disposing of said wastes, corporations consider it cheaper to put them into the food supply.  Flouride is the example most of us know about, but genetically modified soy is actually another. 

Soy cultivation for the most part is not justified by demand; demand is actually a byproduct of people wanting to grow soy and make money for it.  As an experiment, try and find some form of processed food which doesn't contain soy flour or lecithin.  It's in everything now.

On topic, turmeric/cucumin is good for pretty much anything.  I've read that cinnamon can be good for diabetes as well, but can also harm the kidney, so be careful of that.

As far as getting off meds is concerned; sure, theoretically speaking it's easy.  All you need to understand is basic systems theory; that you as a human being, are physiologically designed to exist within a certain environmental system, and the other elements of said system which are meant to serve as both food and medicine, are animals which have fed on plants that have not been altered by industrial processes, and plants which have not been altered by industrial processes, respectively.

In other words, if you only eat grass fed meat, and non-industrially processed fruit and vegetables, you'll stay well.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: sky otter on November 01, 2012, 01:40:54 PM

QuoteIn other words, if you only eat grass fed meat, and non-industrially processed fruit and vegetables, you'll stay well.

ah not exactly but that would help

we are a chemical stew locked into a bi-pedal meat suit capable of producing
small and large  - simple and complex additional chemicals in that meat suit with just a thought
or an emotion
its a delicate operation to maintain optimum calibration
and when one thing gets out of balance it has a domino effect on everything else
so food is only one factor to consider
and
guess what..that just isn't my opinion either
;D
8)
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: ArMaP on November 01, 2012, 02:28:12 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on November 01, 2012, 03:20:11 AM
In other words, if you only eat grass fed meat, and non-industrially processed fruit and vegetables, you'll stay well.
That depends on what your health problems are, I have yet to find something (besides meds) that makes my asthma go away. My food was not a problem when I was five years old (in 1968), the first time I was taken to the hospital to get oxygen.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on November 01, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions....
I found a Homeopathic MD here and will see what that brings.
I guess I'll put in a garden next year....been a long time since I did that.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: rose on November 01, 2012, 07:21:06 PM
Andolin,

Perhaps you have looked here aready but if not, "Mountain Rose Herb Farm" is where I start when I need to find an alternative remedy for an illness or ailment:

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/

Put Insulin in the search box and you will get several responses.   I like the fact that they offer research findings as well as folklore and that their database is easily searchable, but I have no financial or personal relation with them.

good luck,

rose
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: petrus4 on November 02, 2012, 12:19:29 AM
Quote from: ArMaP on November 01, 2012, 02:28:12 PM
That depends on what your health problems are, I have yet to find something (besides meds) that makes my asthma go away. My food was not a problem when I was five years old (in 1968), the first time I was taken to the hospital to get oxygen.

My mother was previously an asthmatic, who also had allergic rhinitis and an allergy to alcohol.  A late paternal uncle of mine was a homeopath and acupuncturist, and he was able to cure her allergy to alcohol; although this turned out to not be such a blessing, because for several years she then became an alcoholic!

I don't know how open minded you are towards acupuncture, but if you are, I'd suggest giving it a try.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: rdunk on November 02, 2012, 02:31:17 PM
My wife is Type II - her doctor stayed after her over a long period to take the meds. She refused, saying she could do it with changed eating plan, as she did not want to take the meds.

Well the A1C reached the point (8+ I think) that it was either take the meds or must eat differently. Well, she started on the typical "low-carb" eating plan, along with watching calories, and her blood sugars are now in the lower-normal ranges.

It does take planning, and it does require a strict regimen, to get the desired results.  The problem is, for many of us, our eating is similar to an addiction, relative to our tastes and what we like/want to eat - ie, relative to what we have eaten all of our lives. Yes, in dealing with type II, the key is learning to eat differently, and sticking with it.

If one takes the time to learn about the long-term physical effects of long term high blood sugars, there is plenty of incentive to make the necessary changes. 

Basically, the carbs have to go!! Thus, that still leaves a lot of good veggies, most of the meats, seafood/fish, and some fruits. 

Dining out is still ok, but, it is a learning process for dealing with lower carbs in the restaurants.

Good luck in finding the right path for yourself!

P.S. - not a doctor either!! :))
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Caver78 on November 02, 2012, 06:59:46 PM
tea made from blueberry leaves and unadulterated juice from blueberries is said to assist the pancreas and since DH started on it [ he's type 1  ] it's lowered the amount of insulin he needs. If that helps....
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: ArMaP on November 03, 2012, 12:54:01 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on November 02, 2012, 12:19:29 AM
My mother was previously an asthmatic, who also had allergic rhinitis and an allergy to alcohol.  A late paternal uncle of mine was a homeopath and acupuncturist, and he was able to cure her allergy to alcohol; although this turned out to not be such a blessing, because for several years she then became an alcoholic!

I don't know how open minded you are towards acupuncture, but if you are, I'd suggest giving it a try.
I was treated some years ago by a homeopath (for a blocked salivary gland, it was treated with clay and some special medicine made in Paris) and he didn't say a thing about my asthma. At the time my brother was making some allergy tests for his asthma (almost nonexistent today) the doctor told me that there was no need for me to make the tests because my asthma is not related to allergies.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on November 04, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
Lots of help..Thanks again. The Blueberry angle is new, I'll look into that Caver, and loosing carbs ain't easy for a meat/potatoes/pasta eater like myself, but Rdunk, I'm trying. Rose I'm heading over to that website now. I hate that stupid daily glucose testing. Dr. appointment is later this week, and I've been on the modified diet and meds for 60 days now......We'll see how he feels about the Homeopath angle, Petrus4. Thanks again all.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Back on November 04, 2012, 06:45:04 PM
Andolin
Good luck.
I have been fighting this for over 4 years. I was diagnosed when I went for a double hernia. It was over 300. I lost about 100 lbs. And really watch what I eat. I am 6 ft 3 in an 220lbs. The DR says I need to loose another 25 lol on that. I am trying to exercise more.

My last DR apointment my a1c was 8.4 not good. I am now on Meds but I want to get off.

I am pretty active. I coach soccer and play in the spring and fall senior league.

I do believe that some of it is in the blood line.ON my dads side most of the males have it.My dad, Grandfather uncles brothers ect.None of the women do.
I did get the green coffee bean extract yesterday. On my second dose. I will get back with you and let you know if I see any changes.
Back
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on November 05, 2012, 02:18:57 PM
Thanks Back...Let me know about the Coffee bean Extract...The adverts are all over the place, so I'm going to wait for more opinions on it..Seems like it is being touted more for weight loss...Congrats on your weight loss, hang in there....
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Shasta56 on November 05, 2012, 04:49:39 PM
Include cinnamon in your diet and exercise.  Meat and potatoes aren't necessarily bad.  Use lean grass fed beef and cut down on the yummies on your potatoes. The butter, sour cream, allthat good stuff. Increasing your fiber intake is helpful too. 

Be aware that metformin can cause weight gain.  Quiz your pharmacist about your meds.  They get paid to answer your questions.  The tech who waits on you at the counter is not licensed to provide medication counseling. 

You should also remember that high blood sugars cause vascular damage.  Tthe most visible sign is lower limb amputation.  The less visible sign is dementia.  The brain runs on sugar, but too much will debilitate it.

Nurse Shasta
Yes, I really am a nurse.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: robomont on November 05, 2012, 09:33:32 PM
i use to hate whole grain bread but the white stuff was making me fat.now im not bloated feeling and my waistline stays down easier.im sure its the gluten thats makes me feel that way but for benefits of wholegrain outway anything white.
also the bread doesnt mold as fast.
if it white,its not right.
not a doc.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on November 06, 2012, 01:55:10 PM
Thanks Shasta and Robomont....Getting some cinnamon sticks to grate into my Lemon Grass and Green Tea.....I only eat whole grain breads.....I check the labels..If the first ingredient isn't "Natural Whole Grain whatever", I don't eat it...Don't eat more than 2 slices daily anyway...
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Shasta56 on November 08, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
Stay educated and keep working at it.  Best wishes to you.

Shasta
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Amaterasu on November 10, 2012, 07:23:53 PM
The sweetener, Stevia, comes from a plant, is 300 times sweeter than sugar, and helps BALANCE blood sugar.  I recommend it in place of sugar for all who have blood sugar issues.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on November 13, 2012, 01:24:01 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on November 10, 2012, 07:23:53 PM
The sweetener, Stevia, comes from a plant, is 300 times sweeter than sugar, and helps BALANCE blood sugar.  I recommend it in place of sugar for all who have blood sugar issues.

Thanks Amy....I can't bake so I guess I'm stuck with store bought stuff, My sister bakes with Stevia..Maybe I will get a holiday package. I hardly ever use sweetener...Just a teaspoon if Splenda in my morning coffee.....
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Amaterasu on November 13, 2012, 05:45:06 PM
I would avoid Splenda...  They make stevia packets - I can get them in My supermarket here - and I say it is much better.

Info on Splenda:

http://www.peertrainer.com/health/complete-guide-to-sweeteners.aspx
http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx
http://www.xylitolnow.com/splenda.html
http://www.livestrong.com/article/375548-the-side-effects-and-dangers-of-splenda/
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/11/08/splenda-dangers.aspx
http://naturalsociety.com/is-splenda-safe-examining-dangers-sugar-alternative/
http://www.splendaexposed.com/

It's not good for You.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on November 13, 2012, 07:17:39 PM
Wow.OK no more Splenda....Getting the Stevia packets delivered from Amazon Prime..
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Amaterasu on November 14, 2012, 03:44:22 PM
Hope that works well for You.  It will surely work better for Your body. [smile]
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: petrus4 on November 14, 2012, 04:02:18 PM
I just found out this morning that garlic can supposedly lower blood sugar levels, too.
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: Amaterasu on November 14, 2012, 07:19:46 PM
I eat about half a BULB of garlic a day...  Maybe this is why I don't have blood sugar issues (along w/the stevia...).
Title: Re: Any suggestions for herbal remedies for Type 2 Diabetes ??
Post by: andolin on November 14, 2012, 07:59:57 PM
Quote from: petrus4 on November 14, 2012, 04:02:18 PM
I just found out this morning that garlic can supposedly lower blood sugar levels, too.

I am a garlic fiend....Put it in by Juicer with Beets, onion, and celery root...sweetened with apples....This is how I got off my HBP meds...Maybe time to add cinnamon to the mix.....