Hello my name is Jesus, I have been having a hard time trying to find where or if they are duplicate. I have seven pictures of the Apollo 11 Landing. Some of the pictures are of the the astronauts next to the lander. My question is they are not normal pictures or duplicates. They look exactly like polaroids. I just been having a hard time being able to distingust if they are duplicates or real, they are numbered 1-7. Back ground of the story, mother worked at dude ranch in AZ found them after a son of an astronaut received the pictures, he did not want them and thew them away. Hope you can help me find the truth or where they are originally from. Thank you very much.
We can't see any pics mate. Pics or it didn't happen.
totally understand, have them locked up in a safe. When I have chance to access the safe again I will take pics and up load them. Just never seen the that type of photo usually they are just normal pictures but not that type.
Polaroid sounds like nonsense to me. I think the cameras that were on Apollo were conventional film not polaroid (according to NASA).
Maybe a start?
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunar_orbiter/ (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunar_orbiter/)
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/documents/ (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/documents/)
thanks for the info Kdog, This is the only pic that I have found that I have. http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/images/as11_40_5899.jpg
Quote from: Pimander on November 05, 2012, 11:29:50 PM
Polaroid sounds like nonsense to me. I think the cameras that were on Apollo were conventional film not polaroid (according to NASA).
Well "according to NASA" the chest cameras were Hassalblad 70mm regular film cameras... but I have one problem with that story.
When regular film gets cold its extremely brittle and yet I saw no heaters on those cameras. Also regular film gets exposed if you run it through an x-ray scanner at the airport and yet despite direct exposure to all that space radiation on the atmosphereless moon NASA says the film came out fine.
Someone want to try to put a camera in the deep freezer and see if the film advances properly? I hear NASA says its extremely cold up there outside the protective suit, yet they cameras are just sticking out there exposed to the elements
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/30/hasselblad_2.jpeg)
Of course if they didn't REALLY go to the moon and filmed it on a set on Earth, then there would be no issue
But if there are Polaroids, then perhaps one of the astronauts took some private pics while on the set :D
So lets have a look :D
That is exactly were the problem lies Zorgon, I have never seen the polaroid pics on any website or for sale yet. I am wondering if they are like you said Zargon that they were private pics, I was also thinking if it was faked that they are shots to put everything in frame before filming. I honestly dont know
Quote from: zorgon on November 06, 2012, 09:07:29 PM
Well "according to NASA" the chest cameras were Hassalblad 70mm regular film cameras... but I have one problem with that story.
When regular film gets cold its extremely brittle and yet I saw no heaters on those cameras. Also regular film gets exposed if you run it through an x-ray scanner at the airport and yet despite direct exposure to all that space radiation on the atmosphereless moon NASA says the film came out fine.
Someone want to try to put a camera in the deep freezer and see if the film advances properly? I hear NASA says its extremely cold up there outside the protective suit, yet they cameras are just sticking out there exposed to the elements
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/30/hasselblad_2.jpeg)
Of course if they didn't REALLY go to the moon and filmed it on a set on Earth, then there would be no issue
But if there are Polaroids, then perhaps one of the astronauts took some private pics while on the set :D
So lets have a look :D
Checking with Pari on temps at landing time Apollo 11.
Quote from: johnlear on November 06, 2012, 10:45:41 PM
Checking with Pari on temps at landing time Apollo 11.
Hello John,
Thank you for your email. I do not have any information, and do not know where you can get it.
Regards,
Pari Spolter
orbpublishing@msn.com
Is what you are saying here is that some polaroids were taken of a fake studio set of Apollo 11 and you have the masters locked in a safe?
My guess is if they are real, you better start running now or put them on the net for all to see as quick as you can to protect yourself. (maybe) If real ask John and Zorgon for help.
Deuem
I am not sure if they were or not or even just private pics that were taken. All I really want to find is the orgin of where they came from. The pics are in clear color.
Quote from: saturnm on November 07, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
All I really want to find is the orgin of where they came from. The pics are in clear color.
Well post them then! I can't be bothered with time wasters. ::)
Saturn, I am going with Pimander on this one. Talking about something does not work that well. It is like dangeling a carrot to see who bites. I have never heard of this type of a camera being used on the moon. I don't even think it would work there. So you should find time and scan the photos in hi-res and then place then on line somewhere and link them here. If you need to know how to do this, there are many people here who could help out.
If you don't have an account on line, you could use my cloud site. thelivingmoon/deuem and tell the people they are there. then we go out and get them.
Deuem
I am in the process of getting them this weekend, i currently do not live where the pictures are. I totally understand where you guys are coming from and it is not my intention to show something false.
Come on hurry up, I'm impatient :P
LOL, will be looking forward to seeing them.
Ok I have been checking up on the info about the pictures, They do look like polaroids but I was told today that the are negatives, 1-12 are numbered on the pics and the the only name was on the back was Dexter. Each one says dexter in the back, not sure if that is the film which was used but it might be a lead. I am still trying to get them scanned this weekend to post. I do apologize by misleading anyone was not my intention. I am new to all this, but if they are negatives would that still be great info or not. I am not really sure if negatives are rare either. But pics will be posted either way. Once again people I apologize if I misled anyone but that what I was told in the first place. I hope anyone one here can also help me with info about the negatives. Plus I think everyone has more info about this that I do at this time.
Quote from: starwarp2000 on November 09, 2012, 01:35:31 AM
Come on hurry up, I'm impatient :P
Saturn= Chronus, otherwise known as Time!
did not know that, I used the name because I worked as saturn haha :) Pimander do you know anything about apollo negatives or that dexter that is printed on back of them. I am totally lost. ALl the pictures I can find show kodak on the internet
Quote from: saturnm on November 09, 2012, 01:58:49 AM
did not know that, I used the name because I worked as saturn haha :) Pimander do you know anything about apollo negatives or that dexter that is printed on back of them. I am totally lost. ALl the pictures I can find show kodak on the internet
Dunno, but i found these on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-APOLLO-SATURN-Dexter-Super-35-MM-Slides-NASA-Space-Kennedy-Space-Center-/261109514728 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/15-APOLLO-SATURN-Dexter-Super-35-MM-Slides-NASA-Space-Kennedy-Space-Center-/261109514728)
Do you have pictures or negatives?
I don't see how you can mistake negatives for polaroids to be perfectly honest. :D
When doing a Google search for Dexter + Apollo and Dexter 35mm Apollo I came across this site:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vtg-set-20-nasa-space-apollo-35-mm-171842174 (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vtg-set-20-nasa-space-apollo-35-mm-171842174)
Corresponding Pictures:
(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/4732/156b2d8d9a6a1f809e8a587.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/156b2d8d9a6a1f809e8a587.jpg/)
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8475/1905852eeb666624275b3cb.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/1905852eeb666624275b3cb.jpg/)
Dexter seems to be the brand the pictures were sold under.
I think apollo film was 70mm
Quote from: Pimander on November 09, 2012, 02:21:32 AM
I think apollo film was 70mm
It was 70mm Pim.
I am guessing that these are rehashed photos sold to the public from either NASA or some related Company > On 35mm Slides and Photos.
very interesting
this may be of help..
That First Photo Job
09/07/09 22:53
My big summer was in 1969. Forty years ago. I graduated from high school, made trips to Colorado and Boston, and watched the Apollo 11 landing on a TV outdoors with about 30 friends.
Also, I had my first in photography job. I was aerospace engineering student avoiding the draft. Several of my friends were working at a NASA contractor in Whittier. They were assembling sets of 35mm color slides of Apollo space missions for retail and aerospace companies. http://www.harrysonpics.com/files/category-21.html
starwarp, the second pics look the most accurate, the ones i have are about 4x4 inches, all color. the lower part has the number 27-1/27-12 which i think are just number in order. that is the closest pic I can compare them too. I appreciate the help and i will still post them to share even if they are duplicates. If any one has any other info it would be awesome, thank you all.
A 70mm moon shot should give you a 4 x 4 format as a standard print.
Are these prints or polorids. Oh my aching head?
Deuem
They are not polaroids I confirmed this yesterday night, 4x4 picture in color with dexter on the back. So if they come out just to be 70 MM, are those just reproductions then?
NASA uses an outside source to print copies of negatives for public use. I recently ordered a photo from NASA.
The process is that you contact the archivist and order your print. Once that request has been accepted the archivist takes the negative (in this case next door to JPL in Houston) to Bay Area imaging.
This contractor then makes the print (in my case one 11x14 print and one 600 DPI scan for printing posters) This service has a fee. In my case it was a total of $110.00 for the print and the cd scan
The 35 mm slides are such a product sold to the public
BTW the photo I ordered was this one :D
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/04images/Triangles/orbit.600.jpg)
Thank you very much for the info, I am still getting them scannedby the end of the weekend, still gonna post them if anyone is still interested.
Quote from: Pimander on November 09, 2012, 02:21:32 AM
I think apollo film was 70mm
Yes I think Zorgon pointed this out on page one :P
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=3108.msg43639#msg43639
Okay Dexter Press was an official souvenir publisher back in the 60's
Official Souvenir Book, © Copyright DEXTER PRESS, West Nyack, NY
These slide sets are available from many different tourist areas so they are all reprints from official images. Just like you see postcard stands still today, Dexter had these souvenir slide stands
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Post-Card-Super-35MM-Slides-Display-Dexter-/00/$%28KGrHqQOKocE0g2pWoWlBN%28EQ4Z4Cw~~0_3.JPG)
Quote from: zorgon on November 09, 2012, 09:11:50 PM
BTW the photo I ordered was this one :D
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/04images/Triangles/orbit.600.jpg)
I love this photo, Z; every time I see it reminds me of the large,silent, black triangle I witnessed in the night skies of NW Georgia way back in 1978 ;D
damn I wish I had a camera at the ready back in them days...
what was the bovine feces explanation that never a straight answer gave for this particular photo? I know you have told us before...
seeker
http://imgur.com/gyKTM
http://imgur.com/dxC9k I hope every one likes them even if they are duplicates. Love to hear feedback
Definitely, not Polaroids, but thanks for sharing, that's the right thing to do: ask and share. :)
Quote from: the seeker on November 10, 2012, 01:46:58 AM
what was the bovine feces explanation that never a straight answer gave for this particular photo? I know you have told us before...
They said it was a damaged ceramic tile which had detached from the Space Shuttle.
What did the triangle you witnessed do? I am interested in triangles.