Is someone going to finally let the cat out of the bag on the Searl IGV?
http://searlaerospace.com/
Whatdya think folks?
Can I test drive one?
:D
(http://www.searlaerospace.com/images/ezekiel_01.jpg)
WOW Little Enki...!
That looks incredibly impressive !
Gold for that !
L.E., "What a find my friend!!"
I am so waiting for the website to be completed. It is very unsettling though due too the fact that there are all kinds of prep's out there doing there prep stuff wasting money when they should have waited just a little while longer!!! ::)
The airframe is really familiar too me for it's design, similar too what you would find on the B-52's of their day.
The Searl apparatus is as it was depicted when I first had seen it, still have it as a motion avatar in storage somewhere on my PC..LOL
Really cool thing about to happen here, can't wait for the website to be up and running, want too see it now, but get the 404 low down, darn it!!
Thanks for sharing L.E. , will be adding this to my Favorites my friend.
"Wonder what the materials are and what the over all weight is of the craft?" Would like to do a little calculating myself, hard too believe that we may be on the cusps of orbital commercially advertised for personal flight vehicles for the masses.
Hopefully Virgin doesn't get a hold of this !! :P
Found the earlier mentioned avatar of the SEG from 2008!!
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/SEG2008Animation.gif)
1WW
Thanks, Astr0! I might need to gold to buy my IGV when they come out!LOL!
I was floored when I did a search for searl to find a diagram of his IGV from wayback..I though.."is someone playing a joke here?"
Then I saw the family picture and read they were continuing Searls work and not only designing the craft, but building it too!
Zorgon, would you like yours in Red? 8)
1WW, nice to see ya bro, and if Virgin were to get ahold of this, Branson would inject a poopload of cash and it would be flying in less than a week. LOL!
Ill be waiting with reluctant excitement to see the new site, and is this the first of humanity's true non combustion aircraft in history? If it is we are on the cusp of a very important time my friends, and as the most interesting man in the world says.."stay thirsty!"
Cheers!
Searl again ::)
He's thorough, i'll give him that.
When he did this (for the umpteenth time) in the 70's he even went so far as to file flight plans with the BAA and asked Heathrow if they could reserve a space where he could land his discs.....
As some of you may know, i've been investigating Searl for about 12 years.
He's like the Andrea Rossi of antigravity :D
There is still no proof at all that this device works, but i whish him every success!
After all, someone who had a 12 channel oscilloscope (something i would sell my grandmother for) can't be wrong.
Can he?
Those of you in the inventors group can find all the info i've gathered in 'inventors/Searl'
Enjoy 8)
P.S. most of the files i have linked via Mediafire, if you have problems with this site, PM me with your email & i will send the files directly to you. Some of these are 10 Mb or more, so be prepared to wait a while....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcDxO8L5Cyw
Thanks for the video PWM...
Very cool 8)
I had been looking for a Video on their website....
I love the images where it shows it inside with the interior layout !
Now do you think that they or someone could
develop an airfix Model kit of it !
I want one ! :P
That is assuming that I cannot afford to obtain a real one ! :)
Want to see the plans?
8)
The IGV itself is a splended piece of engineering, and i would certainly rate it as THE model for man-made flying discs, even if the drive system was something entirely different (keep that in mind for later)....
The plans are also right here in the Peggy database, i'll see if i can post a link or something ;)
Most of Searl's PDF's are copyrighted, making it difficult to reproduce single pictures here, but here's one i 'cracked' several years ago:
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/images/GWpics/IGV1.JPG)
Test link:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate001-050.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate001-050.pdf)
If that works, i can post the rest of it....
Why doesn't Dr Greer quit spinning his wheels with his Disclosure Project and back this?
Big Oil sure will try everything to continue to keep this suppressed.
http://searlmagnetics.com/
Greer? he's even less believable than Searl, IMHO :P
Hey the links worked first time, how 'bout that?
:) :) :)
Here's the rest of them:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate051-100.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate051-100.pdf)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate101-150.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate101-150.pdf)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate151-200.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate151-200.pdf)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate201-250.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate201-250.pdf)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate251-300.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate251-300.pdf)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate301-350.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate301-350.pdf)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate351-400.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate351-400.pdf)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate401-450.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/SEG_notes/SEGProgressUpdate401-450.pdf)
And some more 'summaries'
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/MaterialsEvaluation.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/MaterialsEvaluation.pdf)
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/MaterialsEvaluation2.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/MaterialsEvaluation2.pdf)
There's more, but i dont want to overload either the server, or your brains LOL......
P.S. you may find films & more info at his original site, Swallowcommand.com
Thanks for the links. For whatever reason this is the first I have heard of Searl. Crazy because this is how I first got interested in researching on the internet was because I just knew that there was suppressed energy sources out there and I wanted to find out more.
As far as Greer, I lost faith in him a long time ago.
i read something on them about a year ago and wasnt impressed.
so i didnt download to my brain.
three pages on this thread and no brief description of how it functions?
ps. not trying to be bitchy,just have no way of clicking and pasteing.
Wait 1, i will paste something from the inventors forum.....here you go:
QuoteThe effect of high speed rotating magnets, together with the 'tunnel diode' action of the composite ring (or plate, as he describes it) pulls electrons from the inner ring to the outer one, causing the rollers to move faster, & generating 12^12 volts.
That's a 12 followed by 12 zeroe's, or 12 Gigavolts.
The Searl Effect Generator (SEG) is a magnetic diode, and what one may consider one of the original "Free Energy" Devices. The inventor of the technology is Professor John Robert Roy Searl of England. The SEG in essence is a composite ring made of an electron reservoir (a rare earth like Neodymium), a magnetized accelerator stage (Iron or Nickel), an electron flow regulator stage (Nylon 66 or Teflon), and finally, a paramagnetic layer (Aluminium or Copper). The design of the SEG is both beautifully simple and infuriatingly complex at the same time.
The craft pictured here are Inverse Gravity Vehicles (IGVs), of which 41 prototypes were built, and one large version was constructed, the DEMO-1, in 1968. The smaller craft were the P series IGVs, approximately 11 feet in diameter and weighing a few tonnes. DEMO-1 was 21 feet in diameter and weighed 11 tonnes. You can see it flying here below...
Inside each of these IGVs there is a powerful 3-ring SEG which provides levity to the craft through a combination of magnetic, electrostatic and flywheel effects, many of which I freely admit are beyond my comprehension.
The iron element in the SEG "plate" (the big ring) is magnetized with a combined DC and AC magnetizing sequence which causes many poles to form all over the surface of the iron, in a wave like pattern corresponding to the AC frequency used. The iron element is then combined with the others (which are NOT involved in the magnetizing process) in a process called sintering - pushing them together under pressure. The same is done for the smaller magnets, or "rollers", except that each roller consists of eight stacked segments held together by the magnetic field. When you have twelve roller stacks and a correctly magnetized plate, and place the rollers on the plate as below, something truly amazing happens.
There are only ten rollers in the picture for safety reasons, as in a full set, the rollers will accelerate to 250km/h around the plate! This incredible feat is due to the instability of having an AC sine imprint on the plate and a cosine print on the rollers - instability created as the fields conflict causes the rollers to orbit the plate. They are held down by the magnetic field and thrown out by the centrifugal forces, so the rollers do not actually touch the plate when in motion. Thus, friction is virtually non-existent, and the high electrostatic charge accumulated by the SEG soon ionises all the nearby air and pushes it totally away from the SEG, enveloping it in an intense vacuum. High voltage flashover thus becomes impossible, and the potentials created by the generator can reach monstrous levels.
Unlike any other form of electrical technology, the presence of electron flow throught the generator actually cools it, reducing the resistance. This is due to free electrons being pulled out of the air and the resulting energy deficit causing the air to cool. As one places a greater and greater load on the SEG's induction coils (fitted so that the rollers pass through them to produce high-frequency AC), the rollers accelerate to accomodate the added energy drain, more power is pulled from the air, and the temperature lowers even further. A critical point is eventually reached. At 4 degrees Kelvin, the SEG superconducts and totally loses all electrical resistance. At this point, it levitates, completely enveloped in a perfect vacuum. Without control, it will accelerate up away from the Earth and disappear off into space, never to be seen again. To control it, a powerful radio frequency emitted nearby is required. If the same RF is transmitted as the AC frequency used to magnetise the rollers, they will completely stop. This acts as an ideal control gate, preventing the loss of costly generators.
When Searl first activated his device, the rollers (rotors) began to rotate around the plate (stator), generating a charge-pumping action on an open circuit configuration. At threshold speed, the device maintained its rotation with no additional energy input from the peripheral electromagnets. In the case of the original prototype, however, Searl had not provided a dampening mechanism, which caused a positive energy feedback loop to occur (circuit virtually closed) as the machine charged or ionized the air surrounding it, causing the device to accelerate. Eventually the generator experienced a severe drop in temperature inversely proportional to the increasing electric current as the electrical resistance decreased into lines predicted by the Pinch (plasma physics) effect. The random kinetic energy of the electrons became uniform in motion (physics), directly resulting in very high electron velocity, and thus the SEG quickly achieved superconductivity at extremely low temperatures. In this state, quantum tunneling electrons surged through the generator in the form of unimpeded Cooper pairs, resulting in very high negative potentials at the device's periphery.
(Thanks Z for posting extra info there)
There's plenty more....
Now, this part of the text is important;
QuoteThis incredible feat is due to the instability of having an AC sine imprint on the plate and a cosine print on the rollers - instability created as the fields conflict causes the rollers to orbit the plate.
So far, this has not been seen to happen, the single-ring 'mockup' that he's showing everybody does not do this. It relies on a set of coils around the rim too keep the rollers moving, in other words, it's an induction motor & not much more than that.
IF we could see a 3-ring SEG running WITHOUT those coils on the outside, it would be far more believable.
That's the clincher, and has kept me busy for
years
Hi PWMs,
Thank you for posting the PDFs....
I am amazed how much that you have on it !
I am surprised that he has released this material...
I would have thought that he would keep it all secret...
It will take some time to read and absorb and to try and understand it...
Again I do not think that I had come across him or his work / Saucer before...
P.R.C & its members with top info once again !
Gold for you also !
I think Searl's family posts this info to not share with people in all fairness, but to troll for solutions to his non working prototype and theoretical devices.
Someday they think, someone may come forth with a solution and then the IGV will become a valid technology.
Personally I havent tried building one for two reasons
1: Money involved would be astronomical in amount.
2: Ive never seen one shred of eveidence that it will work aside from the induction motor Luke points out.
Le
I've been thinking about how to use acoustics to gain flight. Say for instance applying a sound through a conical acoustic chamber.
just as a basic example, picture if you will a bass speaker facing downward. When an amplified signal is applied, it vibrates and tries to lift upward.
Quote from: Littleenki on November 30, 2012, 04:31:11 AM
I think Searl's family posts this info to not share with people in all fairness, but to troll for solutions to his non working prototype and theoretical devices.
Hmmm sounds like someone else we know :P
Quote from: zorgon on November 30, 2012, 10:05:59 AM
Hmmm sounds like someone else we know :P
hehe, you so silly Z!
I think lots of these "inventors" share so willingly not out of goodness ofman, but for that very same reason!
Even the ones who show working prototypes make me wonder..if it was so easy to build, why arent there one of those in everyone's garage?
I think the engineers here amongst us see these devices and our learned senses say..wait a minute..thats not right!
I do have a friend who spends money on every theoretical device he sees on you tube, and hes never built anything that amounted to anything aside from a lifter, which actually worked..go figure! He also built an HHO generator and also nearly killed himself with a shorted car battery which exploded in hs face..DOH!
For every professor, there will be a Gilligan to negate the progress!LOL!
Too true, just check YooToob for 'hho cell explosion' LOL
Shows you how dangerous this stuff is, thst's why it's important to use 'flashback arrestors' in several places, and a pressure release valve...
The great thing about hho gennys (joe cell Stan Meyer et al) is that it's a supply-on-demand system. Gas is produced & fed directly into the engine, eliminating the need to store hydrogen in tanks using expensive Lithium compounds, it's safer by far, but i digress....
As you read those files, you will see that Searl is not just your typical Eccentric Inventor, he's at the same time an engineering genius and nuttier than squirrel poop ;D
He has a childhood trauma that severely warps his view of the world, and he tends to devote entire pages to ranting at someone, so you will have to be patient & skip to the interesting bits.
He also developed something called the 'law of the squares'.
This is a 'magic number' routine similar to that used by Rodin, who i am still dubious of.
More research is needed in this area.
As you say, Dave, it's not something we can knock up in a garden shed.
The searl story continues........
You mentioned law of the squares.
It reminded me of this video in regards to Coral Castle
Check it out if you are interested in the math.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8BZ3VhX3YI
Very interesting film, thanks :)
The math is correct (nature never makes mistakes) and if you look at Searl's numbers, it all adds up.
But it seems there are as many 'interpretations' of the math as the math itself.
As Douglas Adams once wrote;
Quote...And so man finally proved that God didn't exist. 'Oh i hadn't thought of that' said God, & promptly vanished in a puff of logic
Searl? fool me once shame on you etc.
fraud. prove me wrong.
That's the point, i can't. :D
That's why i tell people to be wary of Searl, Steorn, Rossi etc.
Very many GOOD engineers have been through this with a fine-toothed comb, and i tend to agree with them. Searl is exceptional though, his engineering is superb (but again could be borrowed from someone else)
Steorn borrowed from a REAL free energy inventor, & they still haven't got it right :P
Rossi scammed everyone with his fusion project, simply by playing with the math to get a 700% increase in the actual output.
It doesn't matter, as long as you know what to look for. Even a scam can lead to some good ideas i daresay.
I see it this way, we have a certain duty at PRC to 'peer review' all this & separate the gold from the crud.
When we find (potential) gold, we should pass it around & see if it's real or not. Ultimately we're only interested in 'real' gold, right?
In fact i wasn't planning on posting anything about Searl, but i thought it better to do so, to save people from wasting valuable time & energy on it.
I spent 12 years on Searl, so you don't have to ::)
But you are all welcome to read it, bear in mind a lot of it is personal debate & sometimes even disturbing to read.......
It's funny, some people are very quick to denounce Searl without having done their homework, and they champion Rossi, who i managed to debunk in less than a month simply by listening to the reports of thermal engineers in New Energy Times. They did the math correctly, Rossi didn't.
Oversight? i don't think so.
Getting back to Searl, i'm more interested in his theory of a perfect machine.
Interestingly, some Russians attempted to replicate the SEG, with some highly interesting results:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/russian_seg_replication.pdf (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/inventors_group/files/Gravity/Searl/russian_seg_replication.pdf)
Glad to see ol'searl in the dressing up box again hehe.
i do love eccentric folk
will there be a searl santa suit vid? oh that would be so cool
Probably, but he is known to sometimes walk around in his underwear, not really someone i would like to see my little girl talking to.... ::)
Not that i have any kids, but if i did i would show them pics of Searl to frighten them into obeying me LOL
lmao
Now, Now!! Lets not judge a book by it's cover...LOL Pretty funny though Luke!! ;)
1WW
To be fair, i have communicated with him several times in the past, he is always polite, genuinely interested in what you have to say, & he does seem to have intricate engineering knoweledge, chemistry etc.
Quite a remarkable man.
But as yet no definite proof that the SEG works, the debate on yootube (on a channel from someone called 'flowerbower') raged on to some 300 pages....
BTW Flower is a disinfo agent & my worst enemy. I no longer communicate with him or the rest of the trolls on YT or other sites.
I'm very happy devoting my spare time here 8)