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Title: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 07, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
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And now, another word from Brother Bobby Powell (http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/):


Ex-CIA Spy:
Obama's Secret Deal
With An Already Nuclear Iran;
Catastrophic EMP Threat When War Starts


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMrGSM8AoJE


Published on Nov 16, 2012

SOURCE: http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/

In this full half-hour interview with former CIA asset Reza Kahlili, who had infiltrated the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a spy for the covert agency and still maintains contacts within the heart of the regime, Kahlili reveals that the Obama administration has sent representatives - possibly led by the enigmatic Presidential adviser Valerie Jarret - to meet with their Iranian counterparts in Doha Qatar to hammer out a secret deal.

Initially thought to be an October Surprise before the election, an official announcement of the deal has not yet been made. The Obama administration has denied reports of any negotiations, but the New York Times reports that officials in the administration have indeed confirmed the talks.

Kahlili also talks about the theologically driven Islamic Republic of Iran, and how the particular belief system of the Iranian mullahs guides their foreign policy. The IRGC recently released a state sponsored video called "The Coming Is Upon Us" in which the Shia 12er belief that the Imam Mahdi is about to return is propagated; and that to hasten his appearance, blood and chaos must reign over the Earth.

An electromagnetic pulse could send much of the North American continent back to the 1800's in seconds, and Kahlili says that they Iranians already possess the warheads and delivery systems to attack the US either preemptively or in response to an Israeli and/or US attack on their nuclear facilities.

Estimates from the Congressional EMP Commission calculate that anywhere from two-thirds to ninety percent of the population of the US could die within a year of such an attack.


Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: sky otter on December 07, 2012, 05:21:04 PM

hey thorfourwinds

whatsa the mattter that booby can't post this crap himself ?


you don't make me mad
but
you do make me sad

sad that you spew this all over the place
gloom and doom masters of scary...but no constructive anything

what a total shame

you might want to read soma's answer over on the bs thread


here.. i won't even make ya go find it,,i hope you don't mind soma


Re: BS I have already lived through.
« Reply #13 on: Today at 01:10:20 PM »QuoteI am so up for the Pegasus "Doom Squad Water Boarding- Gangnam Style"   

Right now I am living life ok, it may not be where "I imagine myself to be" or the best "I envisionage myself to be"  but I'm making progress with my own concerns which are cool. 

Notice how many message board's or other sources of information that people digest are so hell bent on Death... Don't get me wrong as I get more than upset at how stupid things are from time to time! but when folkes sell BS or outright lies I turned off once again....

How do these people who live on Doom think they are more switched on because they discuss it rather than people who get on with life regardless of whether doom may come live? 

I will tell ya right now that if all the Doom Reports do come to fruition Your Sacred Monkey most likely WONT survive

Just saying   
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Somamech on December 07, 2012, 06:15:42 PM
Quote from: sky otter on December 07, 2012, 05:21:04 PM
hey thorfourwinds

whatsa the mattter that booby can't post this crap himself ?


you don't make me mad
but
you do make me sad

sad that you spew this all over the place
gloom and doom masters of scary...but no constructive anything

what a total shame

you might want to read soma's answer over on the bs thread


here.. i won't even make ya go find it,,i hope you don't mind soma


Re: BS I have already lived through.
« Reply #13 on: Today at 01:10:20 PM »QuoteI am so up for the Pegasus "Doom Squad Water Boarding- Gangnam Style"   

Right now I am living life ok, it may not be where "I imagine myself to be" or the best "I envisionage myself to be"  but I'm making progress with my own concerns which are cool. 

Notice how many message board's or other sources of information that people digest are so hell bent on Death... Don't get me wrong as I get more than upset at how stupid things are from time to time! but when folkes sell BS or outright lies I turned off once again....

How do these people who live on Doom think they are more switched on because they discuss it rather than people who get on with life regardless of whether doom may come live? 

I will tell ya right now that if all the Doom Reports do come to fruition Your Sacred Monkey most likely WONT survive

Just saying   

No problems from me Otter ;)

Exposing the Gov is passe really... Even the Gov know it according to my well listened Gov sponsored Am radio at work.  The problem they talk about now is not the problem of "What X- said about Y" but how people can co-ordinate together to become more effective.

:-*



Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Somamech on December 07, 2012, 06:34:43 PM
Regarding my local Radio Network ;)

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/

You can find more issues on ABC RADIO NATIONAL than ATS (or any other people for that matter on message boards) YET they all claim "we found it first" etc or discussed the problem first.  Nah that aint true as tonight I watched the Japan quake live on ABC well before ATS. 

Not that I want to Debunk ATS or the great work some members do... "but claiming the fame" as ATS does is really immature. 

During my week at work I have learned how Mecca is being destroyed,  People still know how to paint flowers and much more thanks to well organised Gov Radio which kicks Common Internet Butt regarding storys ;)
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 07, 2012, 08:12:18 PM
Changes comming ?

Yes...

Just another day at the office..  (earth)   :D

There has been WAR for the Last 6000 years + and I am still Here...  ;D

In fact I look to a very Bright future....  Living !  :D

The Human Species does NOT have the power to destroy themselves or the Earth !

Some can only dream about their own annihilation, very Sad really...   :(

If the Species chooses to suffer, then it will, but ONLY within the "Boundaries" of the "Program" or "Story" of the Earth.

Why ?

So you can Learn.

Get rid of Ignorance and Superstition and all our problems shall vanish.

ONLY ONE WAY and that is to LIVE !
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: petrus4 on December 07, 2012, 09:00:13 PM
Quote from: sky otter on December 07, 2012, 05:21:04 PM
hey thorfourwinds

whatsa the mattter that booby can't post this crap himself ?


you don't make me mad
but
you do make me sad

sad that you spew this all over the place
gloom and doom masters of scary...but no constructive anything

For the record, I've also become inclined to view Thorfourwinds as a doom pornographer, being brutally honest.  Unfortunately, there is a tendency among a lot of people who consider themselves "awake," these days, to confuse awareness, with willingly bombarding both themselves and everyone around them with a constant stream of apocalyptic negativity.  The intent is genuinely altruistic, but misguided.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52elXqffolQ

This doesn't necessarily mean that I think Thor should be prevented from making these threads.  Usually I just skip over them.  I'm also aware that a lot of people enjoy doom porn.  Even I like a bit of it occasionally, if only as a source of humour.  Truthfully I've always enjoyed large explosions; I mean, who doesn't? ;)
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: sky otter on December 07, 2012, 09:18:41 PM


hey petrus
you ever hear the one about people in glass houses...?
and yeah..i'm talking about you trying to poke the flames
it really isn't neccessary


i have nothing against anyone speaking for themselves
but to post someone else's story line made me sad

especially sad that he felt the need to share that type of thing
that wasn't his

i totally respect thor for his posting of his own thoughts and take on stuff
i don't agree with him on much but i think his take is as valid as mine
but the super hyping of it by posting bob's..who is a member and can post it himself
well..
i said how i felt

i was not trying to stir the flames or get anyone else to take a side on anything
and thor.. if you thought that                 i apologize to you...

i was merely stating my emotional reflex to his post
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: petrus4 on December 07, 2012, 09:25:24 PM
Quote from: sky otter on December 07, 2012, 09:18:41 PM
hey petrus
you ever hear the one about people in glass houses...?
and yeah..i'm talking about you trying to poke the flames
it really isn't neccessary

I can live with being criticised for this.

Quotei was merely stating my emotional reflex to his post

As was I.  I've noticed a pattern for a while now, of Thor posting material (primarily relating to Fukushima) which privately I thought was unlikely to accomplish anything other than promoting fear and anxiety.  Fukushima is not something which any of us here can do anything material about; and as a result of that, there is nothing to be practically gained by mentally focusing on it.

You might note that I actually defended his right to make said threads as well, even while I conceded that I view said threads as being unproductive.  I also acknowledged his altruistic intent.

I grow exceptionally tired of making qualified statements, which people only read 50% of, and then become far too busy being offended by the partial message that they have received, to bother to read said qualification.

http://www.snotr.com/video/8285/Steve_Hughes_-_Offended
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: biggles on December 08, 2012, 01:42:43 AM
I like to know what's going on so thanks Thor for your threads.

Whether anything happens negative or positive I really dont care at the present time.

In fact, the sooner we're wiped off the planet the better.
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Amaterasu on December 08, 2012, 01:44:00 AM
May I point out that posts are not just for board members?  In fact the links to work here are frequently provided to "outsiders," some of whom may actually be in a position to do something.

I know Thor is trying to ignite Earth Aid, and points His prospective assistants/investors/etc. to His threads here.  So presuming it is merely "doom porn" is a bit boardcentric...
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: biggles on December 08, 2012, 01:49:40 AM
Quote from: Amaterasu on December 08, 2012, 01:44:00 AM
May I point out that posts are not just for board members?  In fact the links to work here are frequently provided to "outsiders," some of whom may actually be in a position to do something.

I know Thor is trying to ignite Earth Aid, and points His prospective assistants/investors/etc. to His threads here.  So presuming it is merely "doom porn" is a bit boardcentric...

Agree.  If there are posts that you dont like you can just not read them.  I like reading Thor's threads, that's just me, as I dont keep up with everything.  Even if it is unconfirmed I still want to know.
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: petrus4 on December 08, 2012, 03:21:46 AM
Quote from: biggles on December 08, 2012, 01:49:40 AM
Agree.  If there are posts that you dont like you can just not read them.

Most of the time, that is what I do, as mentioned.
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Amaterasu on December 08, 2012, 03:46:31 AM
Quote from: biggles on December 08, 2012, 01:49:40 AM
Agree.  If there are posts that you dont like you can just not read them.  I like reading Thor's threads, that's just me, as I dont keep up with everything.  Even if it is unconfirmed I still want to know.

I like His threads too.  And yes... Pass on threads that are of no interest.
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: zorgon on December 08, 2012, 04:18:09 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on December 07, 2012, 09:25:24 PM
I grow exceptionally tired of making qualified statements, which people only read 50% of, and then become far too busy being offended by the partial message that they have received, to bother to read said qualification.

Silly Lemming

People will stop reading the minute they hit the offense :P

Might I suggest if you seek to control what people do or say...

...you start your OWN forum?

Just a thought

::)
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 08, 2012, 04:41:43 AM
Quote from: sky otter on December 07, 2012, 05:21:04 PM
hey thorfourwinds

whatsa the mattter that booby can't post this crap himself ?


Greetings of the Season:

Bobby Powell is a friend of mine who I invited here.

To precisely answer your 'question,' as he and his family are having 'a bit of a go' (http://bobpowell.blogspot.com/) at this precise moment in time, I'm attempting to assist his outreach by 'posting his crap' here and extending his message of hope and love to his friends at Pegasus.

Not all of us may be around for 'next Season,' regardless of the reason. As you may recall, he lost his daughter (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread802386/pg1) less than a year ago and things just went south for his wife of 25 years, DeLynn.

You might drop him a line of hope, compassion and love... it will be appreciated.

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/lg50aa500a.gif) (//http://)
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: sky otter on December 08, 2012, 04:54:50 AM


friednship is a great thing

i know nothing of his personal history and was not taking a shot at him personally
or at you
my condolences for his loses

but he obviously has time to post this stuff
my comment was more to it being posted by you when he is also a member
and could post it for himself
you have explained
thank you

we all have personal things going on in our lives and while i don't like the message
i have no problems sending a hug and good thoughts to the messenger/s
i will gladly add him to my healing list and place him on others
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: thorfourwinds on December 08, 2012, 05:20:30 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on December 07, 2012, 09:25:24 PM
...

As was I.  I've noticed a pattern for a while now, of Thor posting material (primarily relating to Fukushima) which privately I thought was unlikely to accomplish anything other than promoting fear and anxiety. 

Fukushima is not something which any of us here can do anything material about; and as a result of that, there is nothing to be practically gained by mentally focusing on it.
...

Greetings friend petrus4:

Speak for yourself, ye of little faith.

"You never know when a bread tie could save your life."

So, was EARTH AID - The Concert to Save All Life On Earth (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1405.0) another of those books you judged by the cover - another of your condemnations of 'doom porn' and as such considered of little consequence?

Our take on the subject is that if we can reach just that one more entity that tips the scale in favor of sensible alternatives to nuclear energy, we will have accomplished something through the spreading of relevant information - doom porn in your eyes.


Do you understand the concept of each community hosting an Earth Aid awareness event - say 4 July 2013 - when there will already be a venue, food, music and people? Even a small table covered with leaflets, buttons and flyers presenting the problems and solutions with nukes and staffed by local 'anti-nuke' peeps will help spread the word.

It is now time for
we, the people,
to peaceably assimilate, create
and manifest a positive response to this,
the world's greatest environmental challenge.

We'll present major acts in large venues like Wimbleton, the Metrodome (Minneapolis, where we launched the Steel Wheels tour), the Georgia Dome, etc. and satellite the big acts worldwide.


Our dear friends, this is a sad indictment of the nuclear-challenged world we live in today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7S3Qi7iYw


USA, Canada and Europe Radiation Fallout Forecast + Rad Levels in US cities (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0YKvXK7t8I&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/fr4f9f5ab1.png)


Dear Reader, please do us a big favor, just this once.

Click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSpO2B6G4s&feature=fvwrel) and put that window in the background with the music at a decent level, just not so loud as to distract your thought processes while reading the following, please.

Music on and screen backgrounded?

Enter the zone and read on...


So, where are we?


The world is only one more "event" away from the banishment of the scourge of nuclear energy forever: one event - be that a world-wide consciousness-raising multi-media event on a scale paralleling Live Aid (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1643506/looking-back-at-live-aid-25-years-later.jhtml)


(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/fu4f9f36ae.jpg)


(still, 26 years later, the standard by which other all-hands-on-deck rock and charity events are judged), or the unthinkable - another Chernobyl, Three Mile Island or Fukushima nightmare disaster/fiasco.




What do enquiring minds really want?

This:

Nuclear Radiation In The Ocean Near Fukushima Now 4,385 Times Above Normal (http://themostimportantnews.com/archives/nuclear-radiation-in-the-ocean-near-fukushima-now-4385-times-above-normal)

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/vk4f9ed391.jpg)


... or this?


Looking Back At Live Aid, 25 Years Later (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1643506/looking-back-at-live-aid-25-years-later.jhtml)


(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/cb4f9ed1a1.jpg)


At one point, according to a stage announcement, 95 percent of the world's television sets were tuned in to Live Aid — an even more incredible statistic when you consider that it happened before the Internet, cell phones, e-mail, text messaging, streaming video, Facebook and Twitter.


So what can we do?

We can dream about ambitious possibilities and believe in positive solutions.

We can envision concerned citizens across the world coming together for a fun-filled learning experience and unite all anti-nuclear organizations to speak in a single voice:


No Nukes!

We can conceptualize an idea: how about LIVE EARTH AID ... or working title Earth Aid


Earth Aidis dedicated to the creation of an interactive world-wide multi-media event to raise awareness about the challenges and solutions associated with nuclear energy.

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/kg4f0a67a9.png)



We can say that we now have a raison d'être.

What the world needs now is a knight in shining armor to ride in and save the day and help us produce this world-changing event.


What the world needs now is another Bob Geldof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Geldof) or Kevin Wall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Wall#Live_Earth) or Bianca Jagger (http://www.biancajagger.org/) to take the bull by the horns and make this event a reality - perhaps to literally save mankind and our planet ... can we have a little help here, please?


The simple truth is:  the choice is ours to make or the choice will be made for us.


So which will it be - life or death?

We choose life - and rock and roll for humanity.

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/lg50aa500a.gif) (//http://)
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: zorgon on December 08, 2012, 10:29:20 AM
Doom Porn... like regular porn, is GOOD FOR BUSINESS :D

I hear all the survivalist stores are selling out of everything :D

But regular porn, which accounts for about 80% of all internet traffic... has an advantage... there is always another girl comes along.  :P

But with this 2012 doom stuff... they will be hard pressed to carry on   8)

But hey  we have a couple weeks left  Anything can happen, right?

Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 08, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
Quote from: zorgon on December 08, 2012, 10:29:20 AM
Doom Porn... like regular porn, is GOOD FOR BUSINESS :D

I hear all the survivalist stores are selling out of everything :D

But regular porn, which accounts for about 80% of all internet traffic... has an advantage... there is always another girl comes along.  :P

But with this 2012 doom stuff... they will be hard pressed to carry on   8)

But hey  we have a couple weeks left  Anything can happen, right?

Ah porn....mmmmm ahhhh...(eyes roll back).... ;)
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: petrus4 on December 08, 2012, 06:43:30 PM
Quote from: thorfourwinds on December 08, 2012, 05:20:30 AM
Our take on the subject is that if we can reach just that one more entity that tips the scale in favor of sensible alternatives to nuclear energy, we will have accomplished something through the spreading of relevant information - doom porn in your eyes.

I would hope that you could recognise that I am not going to classify a concert in that manner.  I was referring to the focus on Fukushima as a particular event.  If, however, you are engaged in activism to try to ensure that such an incident does not occur again, then by all means.  That is practical, it is useful, and I have no difficulty supporting it wholeheartedly.

Before Earth AID was mentioned, I did not know that such preventative activism was actually your goal.  I had thought that your threads on Fukushima were therefore along the lines of, "Oh God, look how terrible it is, we're all going to die."  I do not consider that, by itself, to be remotely useful, and I will not apologise for saying so.  I feel that at this point, the focus needs to be almost entirely on solutions, rather than problems; or that is where I intend to put my own focus, anyway.

Focusing primarily or exclusively on problems does, as mentioned, generate and promote fear, which can be enormously counterproductive.

QuoteDo you understand the concept of each community hosting an Earth Aid awareness event - say 4 July 2013 - when there will already be a venue, food, music and people? Even a small table covered with leaflets, buttons and flyers presenting the problems and solutions with nukes and staffed by local 'anti-nuke' peeps will help spread the word.

This will be an incredibly positive thing.  I felt that the most positive achievement of Occupy's camp at Zucotti Park, was primarily information exchange; creating a place for people to come together who otherwise wouldn't be able to, and conspire. ;)  The government evidently saw the value of the event for those who would oppose it, as well; the brutality of the eventual police response was a testament to that.

Quote
It is now time for
we, the people,
to peaceably assimilate, create
and manifest a positive response to this,
the world's greatest environmental challenge.

I am not going to argue with this, at all.  Given the nature of my own writing on this site, I would hope that, again, you would be able to recognise that.

QuoteThe world is only one more "event" away from the banishment of the scourge of nuclear energy forever:

Again, I have no difficulty accepting this whatsoever.  A nuclear power station is, essentially, nothing other than an extremely high yield, stationary nuclear bomb.  I feel that that has already been amply proven at Chernobyl, among other places.

Part of the issue, however, is also going to be presenting alternatives.  The current advocates of nuclear power will likely turn around and say that if nuclear is not used, then what can we use, post peak oil? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSHg83aRRw0

This video, among others, demonstrates that we don't actually need to try and persuade anyone to accept aetherically based ("free") energy generation at all; there are already a number of entirely relatively non-exotic methods available that we could use.  If people were to learn about these, and begin implementing them, that would solve the problem.

QuoteThe simple truth is:  the choice is ours to make or the choice will be made for us.

It is true that where the psychopaths are concerned, constant vigilance is required, sadly.
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Amaterasu on December 08, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
"Peak oil" is a myth...  It was devised to give the illusion that oil is scarce and therefore boost the price.  In fact, it's vastly abundant - but grossly polluting in its use.  Best to get rid of it.
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: petrus4 on December 08, 2012, 07:37:06 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on December 08, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
"Peak oil" is a myth...  It was devised to give the illusion that oil is scarce and therefore boost the price.  In fact, it's vastly abundant - but grossly polluting in its use.  Best to get rid of it.

Well, this is the other issue as well Amy, yes.  Irrespective of whether we can continue to use oil or not, it is horrifically polluting as you say.

I would be interested in reading about oil's abundance, though; it would be very different to what I've seen on the topic in the past.  Can you point me to material on the subject?
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 08, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
Regarding Petrochemical Products, esp. Oil and fuel...

A vehicle in good repair and Tuned correctly; Its exhaust emits about 25 to 100 ppm (Parts / Million) hydrocarbons.

Most of the exhaust is HOT Nitrogen, some 150 ppb (Parts / Billion) Nitrogen Oxide, (not good... that's the one that makes your eyes sting) some carbon monoxide (small amount) Carbon Dioxide (1.5 to 2.0 %). But Most of a vehicles emissions, exists of Nitrogen
and Thermal ENERGY !

75 to 80% % of the fuel you buy, is Dumped in the form of ENERGY directly into your atmosphere. About 20 to 25% at the very most is used to propel your vehicle on the road! :o :'(

The Real pollution is ENERGY being dumped directly into our atmosphere.

A 150 HP engine vehicle Dumps about 8,489 btu's per minute, or up to 560 kilowatts and often much more, depending on Engine design and tuning.

If you turn on all the cooking elements in your oven at home it will produce about 1 to 2 kilowatts.

About 0.03 % of that single car !

And that's with ALL the Elements running at the same time including the Oven !   :o

Best way to get an idea of the problem take The USA's Annual Oil Consumption figure and Convert this figure to btu's or Meg. Watts.

Let alone taking into the Whole Earth's Production.    :o  ::)   >:(   :(

You will find that this figure is thousands of times more, than your annual consumption of Electricity in btu's. (Can also view this in KW or MW.)

Its the ENERGY you are dumping directly into the Atmosphere that threatens your existence.  :o

So we need to CUT BACK on the Energy we produce, if we want to keep Living !

NOT Increase our ENERGY Production !   :o  :D
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Amaterasu on December 09, 2012, 12:56:21 AM
Quote from: petrus4 on December 08, 2012, 07:37:06 PM
Well, this is the other issue as well Amy, yes.  Irrespective of whether we can continue to use oil or not, it is horrifically polluting as you say.

I would be interested in reading about oil's abundance, though; it would be very different to what I've seen on the topic in the past.  Can you point me to material on the subject?

http://www.viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html

http://rense.com/general63/refil.htm

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Are-Oil-Wells-Recharging-Themselves.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/26/science/geochemist-says-oil-fieldsmay-be-refilled-naturally.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

http://joer4x4.hubpages.com/hub/Peak-Oil-or-Nonsense

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/davemcgowanstalinandabioticoil05mar05.shtml

http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2002/4/24/101927/375

That's all I feel like hunting for.  [smile]
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Amaterasu on December 09, 2012, 02:06:28 AM
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on December 08, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
The Real pollution is ENERGY being dumped directly into our atmosphere.

That's another reason electrogravitics is the best solution.  It is negentropic.  Its signature is cold, not heat.
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: The Matrix Traveller on December 09, 2012, 02:17:22 AM
Quote from: Amaterasu on December 09, 2012, 02:06:28 AM
That's another reason electrogravitics is the best solution.  It is negentropic.  Its signature is cold, not heat.

BINGO. You are onto it...   :D
Title: Re: Ex-CIA Spy: Obama's Secret Deal
Post by: Amaterasu on December 09, 2012, 06:25:36 AM
That is why I am so adamant about EG.  People say, solar is free, hydro (can be) free, etc.  Only EG, as far as I can tell, offers: