Pegasus Research Consortium

By Norval L. Cunningham (http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=memberblogs&num=1281884103&start=15) and Gale Smart (http://www.craterchains.com/)


We know from Rev 12:4 "And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth" along with Rev 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him".

The two time periods for these two events has been narrowed down; the second event, the casting down of the old serpent has been substantially narrowed down to a specific time frame. The first event, the one third thrown down has been plotted in a period of time using the available evidence that has not completely deteriorated over time.

In the late 1800's astronomers were focusing their telescopes and attention to Mars. Astronomers such as: Rev. Pietro Angelo Secchi, (1818-78); Giovanni Virginio Schiaparelli, (1835-1910); Percival Lowell, (1855-1916); William Henry Pickering, (1858-1938); Andrew Ellicott Douglass, (1867-1962); Edward Emerson Barnard, (1857-1923); William Wallace Campbell, (1862-1938); William Huggins, (1824-1910); Camille Flammarion, (1842-1925); Eugine Michael Antoniadi, (1870-1944); Henri Perrotin, (1845-1904); to list just a few.

What the astronomers of the late 1800's were discovering was canals on Mars, first called canali by Rev. Secchi in 1858 and Giovanni Schiaparelli in 1877.

Many of these astronomers verified the canals and also noted seasonal changes on the surface that corresponded with the melting of the polar ice (see Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter (MOLA) Science Investigation or The Encyclopedia of Astrobiology, Astronomy, and Spaceflight a simple encyclopedia with an alphabetic index or NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day, Mars Then and Now.

In 1888 Perrotin described having observed dramatic changes in a feature, named "Libya" by Schiaparelli, and assumed to be a continental land mass. "Clearly visible two years ago, it no longer exists today," and "By 1892, Perrotin had switched his attention to watching for "bright projections" on Mars, reporting three in the summer of that year" according to the information from the The Encyclopedia of Astrobiology, Astronomy, and Spaceflight, in particular see the graphic drawing by Eugine Antoniadi of the Elysium region of Mars.

In 1894 Percival Lowell noted a tawny colored cloud of dust that extended over 300 miles and Percival Lowell from his research estimated the temperature on the surface of Mars to be an average of 48F noted from NASA MOLA Science. Percival Lowell's
temperature was later verified by the Russian Mars 3 lander.

In 1971 the Mars 3 recorded temperature readings on the surface of Mars "the coldest point proved to be the north polar cap, where the temperature was -110C (-166F); elsewhere the values ranged
from -93C to 13C (-135-55F),"

According to a Mars data web page, "Recent observations with the Hubble Space Telescope have revealed that the conditions during the Viking missions may not have been typical. Mars' atmosphere now seems to be both colder and dryer than measured by the Viking landers".

The Space Telescope Science Institute (STSci) report, MARS: A Cooler, Clearer World, states the fact several times that the Mars surface temperature has changed since Viking landing missions, constantly dropping in temperature. Fact, the Viking 1 landed on Mars on July 20, 1976, continuous recording data until Nov. 11, 1982, over six years of recordings. An excellent web site for Mars information is the European Space Agency.

In 1888 drastic changes in surface features were observed, 1892 bright projections were observed, 1894 tawny dust cloud was observed and by 1909 no signs of the canals existed according to Antoniadi.






"In 1899 drastic changes in surface features were observed, 1892 bright projections were observed, 1894 tawny dust cloud was observed and by 1909 no signs of the canals existed according to Antoniadi.

"In 1899, the International Peace Conference was held in The Hague to elaborate instruments for settling crises peacefully, preventing wars and codifying rules of warfare. It adopted the Convention for the Pacific Settlement of International Disputes and established the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which began work in 1902".   






In 1908 was the Tunguska explosion, later investigations reveal radiation reading at ground zero, "the source of radioactivity is in the ground", G. Longo et. al, 2000.

The League of Nations was "established in 1919 under the Treaty of Versailles" and and "ceased its activities after failing to prevent the Second World War". Revelations 13:12 "the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed", (KJV).

In 1934 the Atomic Bomb was patented, September 1, 1939 Germany invaded Poland. January 1, 1942 the United Nations was formed and on June 26, 1945 the United Nations Charter was signed, then ratified on October 24, 1945.

Revelations 13:13 "And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men."

1908 was the Tunguska explosion, August 6, 1945 the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, August 9, 1945 the bomb was dropped on Nagasaki.

Revelations 13:14 "And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived."

Revelations 13:4 "and they worshipped the dragon, because he gave his authority unto the beast; and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? And who is able to war with him?"

The National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICA) the first ever recorded sighting of an aerial unknown was by Kenneth Arnold, June 24, 1947. This does not include unknown airships depicted in art over the ages or unknown airships at the turn of the 1800's and early 1900's.


In 1954 National Geographic sponsored a Mars observation project at Lamount-Hussey Obervator, Bloemfontein, South Africa on Naval Hill an altitude of 4888 feet. From this National Geographic sponsored expedition 20,000 pictures were taken of Mars.

The National Geographic published the article September 1955, pages 427 to 436 written by Dr. E.C. Slipher. The picture in the National Geographic article reveals the areas mentioned as blue-green seasonal change.

These observations were in September 1954, two years before the 1956 planet wide dust storm.


An interesting fact, of all the observations of Mars over the years, even back to the late 1800's never was there mention of Valles Marineris (Valley of the Mariners).

Valles Marineris was never part of the canal renderings of the 1800's to early 1900's astronomers. Valles Marineris was not observed in 1954 in the project that resulted in observations of seasonal changes in 20,000 photographs.

According to a published article, NASA SP-441: VIKING ORBITER VIEWS OF MARS, M.H. Carr, W.A. Baum, K.R. Blasius, G.A. Briggs, J.A. Cutts, T.C. Duxbury, R. Greeley, J. Guest, H. Masursky, B.A. Smith, L.A. Soderblom, J. Veverka, J.B. Wellman :

-The canyons do not form a well integrated drainage system

-Indicate downward subsidence of canyon floors along faults

-Impact craters, which are so numerous on other Martian terrain's, are scarce within Valles Marineris

-No evidence of flow of water has been found within Valles Marineris, although some channels on the adjacent upland are abruptly truncated by steep canyon walls

-Because these canyons are poorly linked with one another, and their floors not a regularly graded slope, they could not have formed as water drainage features.


There was a planet-wide dust storm on Mars in 1956, then again in 1971 and seen again in 2001. The Mariner 9 satellite waited until the cloud storm of 1971 had subsided somewhat to activate the camera.

At that time Mariner 9 recorded the canyon Valles Marineris whereas the canyon had never been viewed as a canyon prior to Mariner 9. The canals had been viewed, surface changes had been viewed but never a massive canyon over 4000 km long from west to east near the Martian equator.

Mariner 9's images reveal a barren planet, with no apparent seasonal changes except for the polar caps Mars resembled a devastated planet.


In summary, from 1858 to 1909 Mars had observable features that astronomers attributed to intelligence. After 1909 the surface of Mars showed drastic changes from the first observed tawny cloud of over 300 feet tall in 1894 to planet wide dust storm in 1956. In around 1947 was the first major records of UFO data, * UFO Database.

The charted data reveals peak sightings in 1947, 1953, 1955, late 1957 and 1974. The largest amount of sightings being in the years 1947, 1953 and 1955. Anomaly, UFO and abduction web sites have proliferated the internet in resent years. Israel became an independent nation in 1948. So the throwing down of the old deceiving serpent can be narrowed down to the years between 1909 and 1971.

These entities thrown down by Michael are not from earth and lost the war in the heavens, making them the Losers. These entities could be called Extraterrestrial Biological Entities (EBE) or Extraterrestrial Intelligence (ETI) or Bad Extraterrestrial (BET).




This article originally posted here Earth's Banner Forum (http://www.earthsbanner.com/forums/content.php?1-the-front-page) and seemed to want 'resurrection' and discussion in these times on PRC ;)

Not one bite !

This was a test to see just how fast an item disappears from the front page and therefore, lost forever, it seems.   :P



Let's see if this gets your attention:



The following is a direct quote from that site:


This web site is for those that know that our world is in deep trouble.

Economically, spiritually, even emotionally we see unrest and great concern by the peoples of our world.

Most people, if you ask them, seem to think we are on the verge of some great changes taking place or about to take place in our world.

From all walks of life and from every direction people are talking about 2012, about the pole shift of our planet, even Armageddon and possible ET invasion.

Have you noticed?

Are you feeling the stress in the world today too?

Many want to discuss these events in the world today and what may be causing them. What are your thoughts? Come talk with all of us in the forum, give us your views,

What do you know that would, or could explain all this unrest?

There is so much that we are not being told the truth about.


Wow! This touches all the right buttons for us.    8)





And a bit of selected text from that site posted in 2009:

...bits and pieces creating a mosaic picture (speculative at best, but all I have)

- the latest tidbit comes from Gary McKinnon who discovered payroll files (if I remember right) to Navy Officers labeled as "Non-terrestrial officers" and listings of off-world cargo operations, in other words...]a secret space program as this info is not public.

- another is the recent videos by a guy named John Lenard Walson who has 10+ videos of supposed ships in earths orbit that he has been able to see and film through some special apparatus on his telescope (again speculative maybe even debunked) which is all over youtube and was quite the sensation when they hit the net...Rense published all of them and he has other zoomed in images of the moon.

John Lear goes into his search for the 4th astronaut killed in the Apollo 1 capsule along with Grissom, White and Chaffee. This can be read at The Living Moon on this thread as well as some other juicy stuff Lear always delivers. This particular 4th astronaut supposedly didnt go on any flights but was a liason to an already existing space program I assume.


William Cooper stated in his 1989 MUFON conference:

"The first moon landing was May 22, 1962 ...

or excuse me, that was the first landing on Mars.

I'm sorry, May 22, 1962, was the winged probe that used a hydrozine propeller, flew around approximately three orbits and landed on May 22, 1962, was a joint United States/Russian endeavor.

The first time that we landed on the moon was sometime during the ...

probably middle 50's,

because at the time when President Kennedy stated that he wanted a man to set foot on the moon by the end of the decade we already had a base there."


"What about Mars?" came another quick question.

"We have a base on Mars also," Cooper calmly replied.

"When did that happen?"

"I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name, it was 'Adam and Eve.'"

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 17, 2013, 01:04:48 AM

BUMP

Let's see if this gets your attention:

COOL Moving Thingy  ;D

Norval... wow not heard from him since the demise of our work at Project Avalon

I wish people would stop bringing up Gary McKinnon. That guy did NOTHING  Listen to his interviews and you will see that all he did was listen to Steven Greer's "Disclosure Project" then tap into some unsecured NASA desk tops that had nothing. I bet the spaceship picture he saw was that screen saver that made the fuss at ATS LOL

As to the list of Naval Space officers... well NASA has MANY NAVY astronauts on the payroll :P The first head of NAVAL Space command was even a NASA administrator The guy who killed NASA'a ET contact law

But Gary gets all the press like he is some big hero while our work gets plagiarized with no mention of us

Quoteanother is the recent videos by a guy named John Lenard Walson's who has 10+ videos of supposed ships in earths orbit that he has been able to see and film through some special apparatus on his telescope

John Lenard Walson's aka Gridkeeper was on ATS years ago. He got banned. I contacted him to present his stuff on Pegasus. He declined. He would never reveal his equipment, process or coordinates. At the time Russ Hamerly Senior IT exectuive from Boeing wrote to me and said he had access to a big scopw if we could get the coords.  NADA.

There are thousands of spacecraft up there, some huge.  But with out times and coords it is impossible to check

Seems he is content just to have a Youtube audience and turns his back on any serious research

Jump Gates to Mars

When I first started into this stuff I had heard about the jump gates at Area 51 that led to Pinegap in Australia and the one to Mars. I first heard of them from John Lear and Dan Burisch

Then years later along comes Andrew D. Basiago and creates Project Pegasus (http://www.projectpegasus.net/)  which he claims is a secret DARPA project that includes the jump gate to Mars.  He then claims that he has been to Mars and back many times

Today he is joined by Laura Magdalene Eisenhower who now claims she too goes to Mars regularly... Laura Magdalene Eisenhower is President Eisenhower's daughter.

And today the interweb is saying Obama makes regular trips as well

(http://stargatetothecosmos.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Laura-Eisenhower-1.jpg)
Laura Magdalene Eisenhower

(http://www.projectpegasus.net/images/Profile-Picture-Andrew-D-Basiago.jpg)
Andrew D. Basiago

So where is the truth? And who is making all the press and money off this story?

::)

I know it isn't us

(http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/lg50aa500a.gif)

PS your FISH is working for ATS :P

Quote from: zorgon on July 17, 2013, 01:45:24 AM
PS your FISH is working for ATS  :P

That's how old that post was/is.   :P

Before our fishy sensibly migrated to PRC.    ;)    :-*

The funny thing is/was - nobody gets it ...    :P

(Background the BUMP, people.)   Sheesh.
Good thing we're not being paid for views divided by comments...:P

Re: Laura Magdalene Eisenhower's eyes

Man, look at those eyes! Almost like she is staring into infinity!

Mind Control? Alter? Makes one wonder  8)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2249.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VUTNLI4Uo&feature=player_embedded

Very Strange Phenomenon in the Sky - Observed by Jimmy Hotz - Lenticular Cloud UFO Chemtrail HAARP ?

Uploaded on Aug 6, 2007
http://www.jimmyhotz.com Jimmy Hotz the Producer Engineer and Author of the new book The Gates of Time (http://www.thegatesoftime.com) observed this very strange and extraordinary yet beautiful rare cloud formation in Southern California near the coast.

http://youtu.be/Myr_0gjR7ZI

We have lived in southern California for over 20 years and had never seen a cloud like this. Even when we lived in Texas and Oklahoma, where there are many major storms, we had never seen a cloud such as this one. It had a super density to it that seemed quite unnatural. In all of our travels, even to places that have Lenticular Clouds we had never seen a cloud with such unique qualities.

It has been described as everything from a weird lenticular cloud to a cloaked alien UFO / ovni, some have even suggested that it is a terrestrial chemtrail or HAARP-altered cloud and others that it is just ones of God's beautiful unique creations of nature. it should be noted that it held its form over time in a very unusual manner as well.

Certainly make your own decision as to what you think it is, but again having lived in areas with very intense weather and having traveled quite extensively, we had never seen a cloud that had all of the properties of the one in this video.



Of course, we were immediately interested, as this person is a contact of the webmaster at the site we be speaking of.   :P

(Anyone still with me/us?)

We thinks that Deuem, A51, 1WW, we the people, and many others, just might want to meet this person - and not just from his most interesting video.   


Check this out:


(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/Jholtz_ZUMA.png)

Computer Graphics World's 2001 Innovation Award for the 3D Graphics program Zuma which was conceived by Jimmy Hotz (http://www.cgw.com/Publications/CGW/2001/Volume-24-Issue-12-December-2001-/Computer-Graphics-Worlds-2001-Innovation-Awards.aspx#.UW_uqcpGj8k)


One might wonder what this person has invented in the ensuing 13 years.   :P

Shall we invite him to PRC?

Thor,

That is one strange venticular cloud.

Also rather interesting to learn more about the
graphics program he has created.

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 17, 2013, 03:32:57 AM
One might wonder what this person has invented in the ensuing 13 years.   :P
Shall we invite him to PRC?

Sure why not?

8)

As to PBS Nova Astrospies. John and I were putting together a piece on that for a thread on ATS when out of the blue Nova pops up this Astrospies.  They scooped us by about a week and it looked like they were looking over my shoulder :P

But it's okay because they had the resources to do it right and interview the real players at the Pentagon... just sucks we didn't start the thread BEFORE they released theirs

But after that no one bugged us about secret astronauts anymore :D

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 17, 2013, 02:05:29 AM
The funny thing is/was - nobody gets it ...    :P

No one gets it becuase there is too much information.

Its overload. Just when you want to post a good story, three things happen that day.

On top of that a story spreads like wildfire over the net with every blogger rushing to post it first

It's so much even I cannot hope to keep up. I still have 30ish mega threads in the workshop that I haven't got back to.

Today is a good example...

Article say HAARP CLOSED

So its all over the web. ATS has it and even a mod had a thread closed because someone else beat him to it

Yet no one has posted the update that DARPA bought it :P

It's just too much to grasp  and then toss in all the charlatans distorting what facts you can find, top it off with the wild believers taking everything out of context  and you have a mess

So  what to do?

So  what to do?

sit back and watch it like the tennis game it is..???

i.e
the ball's in your court
in their court
repeat
repeat

...where's the ball  now..?
IS there a ball..?


but that probably would go against the grain of your self as a researcher

Ok thor.z over at spookz they have a button that says my ats so you could track certain forums and threads u post in; how can we do dat


Seeker

Re: the "cloud" - it may look cloudy, but as I observe it, it looks like no cloud to me. That is especially true, as I pause the video at the zoomed-in point. As it is paused, we can observe more clearly that this thing has specific non-cloud-looking characteristics, especially in and around the lower area. A primary characteristic we can see, in this open area, is a long white thing, that looks unnatural to me

For me, full screen is even more revealing, but..........as Tonto would say, "me not know what it is Kemo Sabe".  :o

started at the beginning and even read norval's stuff

but just for clarity (and you guys know how i am with clarity..sigh)


Laura Magdalene Eisenhower
Laura is a Cosmic Mythologist, Global Alchemist and Clairvoyant Healer and is the ...

great-grandaughter of Dwight David Eisenhower.

She is on a profound mission to reveal our true origins connected with the 'Magdalene' and 'Gaia-Sophia' energies of love and wisdom and works to liberate us from the Military Industrial Complex, the Archonic systems and false power structures. These forces connect many dots that are coming into our awareness, now more than ever, as our solar system aligns with the Galactic plane in 2011-2012.

While residing and traveling independently in over 20 cities in the U.S. and abroad, she developed an excellent knowledge base in frontier health, natural systems, alchemy, metaphysics and ancient history, and also has degrees and certifications in science, wilderness expedition leadership, natural healing and building. She has masterfully woven together the esoteric and alchemical aspects of nature with our ancient roots, hidden history, the present world, and our future potential.

She is also a Whistleblower and has been speaking out about being recruited to go to a Colony on Mars that represented a time-line that she refused to go along with. She has been able to uncover some necessary truths and agendas that humanity is being kept in the dark about and lectures and does workshops on these issues along with topics such as Global Alchemy, Christ-Sophia, Sacred Union, ET races, Esoteric Cosmology, the Positive Time-line and seeks to empower the individual so that harmony can be restored.

For more than 15 years, she has been providing clairvoyant readings and transformative healings for individuals with the assistance of many divination tools and astrology. Focusing on chakra systems, Laura has advised on topics such as soulpath, abduction, mind-control, core issues, relationships, past lives and physical ailments.

Going through an intense World Soul journey of the labyrinth, Laura has discovered an ability to open a Natural stargate by co-creating with the Venus transits and weaving through the multi-dimensions of the higher and lower worlds. Clearing portals and moving past gatekeepers, Laura works to free us from the artificial Matrix and guide us back to the 'Pleroma', the totality of divine powers. With great passion and courage, she is helping to return Sacred Union, divine wisdom, and the many faces of the Goddess that have been buried and forgotten for thousands of years.

Website: http://cosmicgaia2012.com

http://exouniversity.org/?p=783




and wanting to see just how she was connected


Susan Eisenhower, Consultant
Susan Elaine Eisenhower is a consultant, author, and expert on international security, space policy, energy, and relations between the Russian Federation and the United States of America. WikipediaBorn: December 31, 1951 (age 61), Fort Knox, Kentucky, KY
Education: American University of Paris
Spouse: Roald Sagdeev (m. 1990–2008)
Children: Laura Magdalene Eisenhower, Amy Eisenhower, Caroline Eisenhower
Parents: John Eisenhower, Barbara Jean Thompson
Siblings: David Eisenhower, Mary Jean Eisenhower, Barbara Anne Eisenhower  

I Have not seen Norval's Name in a LONG while!   ;D

Quote from: starwarp2000 on July 17, 2013, 02:58:52 AM
Re: Laura Magdalene Eisenhower's eyes

Man, look at those eyes! Almost like she is staring into infinity!

Mind Control? Alter? Makes one wonder  8)

That's the face of a synthetic aka clone aka droid aka not human.


(http://stargatetothecosmos.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Laura-Eisenhower-1.jpg)

Quote from: zorgon on July 17, 2013, 01:43:35 AM
Jump Gates to Mars
Laura Magdalene Eisenhower who now claims she too goes to Mars regularly... Laura Magdalene Eisenhower is President Eisenhower's daughter.

And today the interweb is saying Obama makes regular trips as well

Did you know Eisenhower had no birth certificate. Yet he was in the service and made top command. How can one join with no birth certificate and make ranks up the chain to top dog. Did you know he needed a birth certificate in 1952 so he could run for president. Someone went to denison texas and had a cert created for Eisenhower so he could run for president.

This guy was an early synthetic cutout made to happen.


(http://s12.postimg.org/ebuocgft9/Eisenhower_Birth_Cert.jpg)

Gigas it was not all that uncommon back in those days; my grandfather was born in tennesse at home in 1907; the only record of his birth was in his moms bible...


Seeker

Quote from: the seeker on July 17, 2013, 08:57:45 PM
Gigas it was not all that uncommon back in those days; my grandfather was born in tennesse at home in 1907; the only record of his birth was in his moms bible...


Seeker

Did your grandfather join the service and go to west point academy without a birth record cert? As far as I know, you have to have more than a notation you were born in the US to climb military rank after attending prestigious west point. I find this completely out of norm a man was created with no previous record on file somewhere who he is and where he was born. Until 1952 when he runs for president.

Contact west point and ask them what the requirements were at that timesomewhere around 1908: then you will know... 


Seeker

If  didn't have a birth certificate, he would be on the census rolls...I've found most of my ancestors in the census.

ahhhhhh i just had to keep looking

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Eisenhower,_Dwight_D.
Source Notes


original quote
The 3:00 am birth time came from a mutual friend of Mildred Schuler and Ida Eisenhower, Ike's mother, and was published in Schuler's magazine "The Rising Star Quarterly", on page 51 of the Winter 1955, Spring-Summer 1956 issue, an electronic copy of which has been provided in April 2013 by Wayne Turner courtesy Linden Leisge, former President and archivist of The Church of Light in Los Angeles, California. The article by Schuler was also quoted by Marion March to Lois Rodden.
Steinbrecher quotes Ruth Hale Oliver for 5:00 AM from Ike's mom, Mercury Hour 2/86.

(Various sources quotes biographer Ann Woodward Miller, "Man and Soldier" for 3:00 AM and for 3:40 AM. They are misquoting as the biography, by Francis Trevelyan Miller, copyright 1944 by Ann Woodward Miller, gives NO time of birth. The only inference is a story related by James Redmon, a retired engineer, who said, "I was living in the home of the Eisenhower family. .... I was an engineer and had an apartment upstairs, and was in from the run on the night the baby was born. .... The only available man on the place with the exception of the husband so I hustled out of my apartment and went for the physician. It was a cold night in October, the 14th."

Gleadow wrote in AA 7/52, "He was said to have born after a thunderstorm in late afternoon or early evening, recitified to 6:00 PM." In Astrological Quarterly spring/53, Gleadow wrote, "Given time of late afternoon, rectified to 5:11 PM." Doris Chase Doane, "Horoscopes of U.S. Presidents" gives 5:19 PM. AQ Winter/52 gives 5:54 PM, rectified. In August 2004, Sy Scholfield sent an e-mail advising that a copy of Eisenhower's birth certificate (without time) is posted on the web at his presidential library site: http://www.eisenhower.utexas.edu/davdwi.htm and http://www.eisenhowerbirthplace.org/pictures.htm. Sy later writes "In his book, "Eisenhower," (p. 21) Carlo D'Este claims that Dwight Eisenhower was born on the "night" of 14 October, 1890, in Denison, TX. D'Este gives no direct reference to a source but states in his footnotes that the birth was recorded in the family bible which may be the source of the information."


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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110411204011AA0w5Gd
Did you know that Eisenhower's Birth Certificate was created by the GOP in 1952 in the Commodore Hotel in NYC?
Dwight D. Eisenhower did not have an official birth certificate until Oct. 1, 1952.

When Republicans in Texas learned that Dwight D. Eisenhower didn't have a birth certificate, they decided to fashion a "delayed" birth certificate for him.

Lonnie F. Roberts of Denison, Texas obtained birth information from Mamie Eisenhower and got Ike's older brother, Arthur, a banker in Kansas City, to sign the necessary documents. Mamie sent the family testimony to the Commodore Hotel, Ike's Campaign HQ in NY, and the Republicans put together a "delayed birth certificate" request which they filed for Eisenhower.

(Birthers of the 1950's said it was all a Conspiracy to hide the fact that President Eisenhower was Jewish).

http://turningthescale.net/?p=372


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http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/03/reminder-dwight-d-eisenhower-had-to.html



Ike needed birth certificate to run for president - 'Ike had nothing to hide!' -

BY LINDA BENTLEY - CAVE CREEK – Glen Fairclough, a reader from Salt Lake City, Utah, sent us an e-mail last week to express his gratitude for publishing the recent article regarding President Obama's Kenyan birth certificate.

And, while going through digital images online of his hometown newspaper, the Deseret News and Telegram, Fairclough forwarded us a United Press wire article from the Oct. 2, 1952 edition he thought we would find interesting.

The article appeared on page 6A with a dateline of Sherman, Texas. It was headlined: "General's birth certificate officially filed," and stated, "A certificate recording Dwight Eisenhower's birth in Denison on Oct. 14, 1890, was filed Wednesday [Oct. 1, 1952] in the Grayson County Clerk's office.

"Nobody had bothered to make out a certificate when the Republican presidential candidate was born in a house at the corner of Lamar and Day streets in nearby Denison.

"A copy of the certificate filed Wednesday was mailed to Mrs. Eisenhower in Denver. Eisenhower's older brother, Arthur, signed the certificate. It was also signed by the Grayson County Judge J.N. Dickson and recorded by County Clerk J.C. Buchanan."

(http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/13/55/53/83/a1900_10.jpg)

~CLICK TO ENLARGE~
sorry you will have to go to the link to see it larger..i couldn't copy the large version..

David Dwight Eisenhower was the third of seven boys born to David Jacob and Ida Elizabeth.

Since he was called Dwight while growing up, Eisenhower swapped his first and middle names when he enrolled at West Point Military Academy.

Elected 34th president of the United States in November 1952, Eisenhower made it through his first 62 years without any need for a birth certificate.

However, the need arose when he became a presidential candidate. Since Eisenhower was the oldest man to be elected president since James Buchanan over 100 years earlier, age was obviously not at issue. Instead, there was protocol in place for presidential candidates to provide proof of eligibility to appear on the ballot.

Eisenhower, whose campaign slogan: "I like Ike" became the most famous in campaign history, won by a landslide with Richard Nixon as his running mate. ...continued here; http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2010/100922/frontpage_Ike.html

View the archived newspaper report here; http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=jbMwAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RU4DAAAAIBAJ&dq=local%20births%201952&pg=6769,300677


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and OMG the birthers have morphed only a little

here' it was adolf as a middle name instead of hussien
go look it up cause I ain't copyin this trash


http://educate-yourself.org/cn/eisenhowerexposed29apr10.shtml

It seems Ike has some trouble remembering his birthplace when asked and has to have the question redirected to his mom.

There's also a small matter where Ike told an INS inquiry he was born in tyler texas and somehow kansas also comes in to the question as where he was born. I know where I was born and seriously wonder why Ike has a problem. But of course, when your a synthetic cutout made to happen you don't have all the answers when asked. That's why they have others make stuff up like they did for baracko. Were not suppose to see these little things and ask questions. Asking questions can get you killed.

I tell you this fake reality is so blurred that it can't be told with a straight face when looking for answers.

Every now and then I do a web search to see who is talking about me, Gale, or the research we have done over the years. This showed up on my latest search. Since I have known Ron and a couple others here for a few years I figured I would stop over and say hello.

Posted just over a year ago on December 11, 2012. by thorfourwinds
BUMPED on July 16, 2013 @ 5:04 pm by thorfourwinds
Zorgon jumps on at 5:18 and makes 7 posts in a row!
Seems to be the conversation thread for the rest of that day and the next.

I suppose I should have included the "Cliff Notes"   ;D  as Gale suggested, as most attention spans are but a few seconds, also noted by some others here. (That also being a "tactic"  ::)   of information control agents on the web.)

Of note and importance would be also the mention of the "LENTICULAR CLOUDS", but alas, it also went unnoticed for the most part , , , , ,  , , , , , ,  :o

hey Norval
gold for just showin up

merry merry..ho ho ho.. ;D