What is All this about ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzII-Q7K2ns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9byOXXa2WY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4zfebX9EzI
How much UFO Activity has been seen around other Nuclear power Stations and Research institutions around the world and how often ?
Thanks for sharing those vid's TMT, very interesting for sure, clear and very profound for the time lines of incidents and Tsunami occurrence.
In 2009-10 My immediate family members went back to Vietnam too visit their relatives that live there, both of my oldest nephews are well into their 20's and when they got back, they discussed seeing thing's through the plane seat windows, nobody really paid a attention they told me, so They were not sure if anyone else was seeing what they had seen but apparently they had witnessed multiple UFO scenarios on their journey. So, write it off as experience, all I know is when they got back , they both talked to me about it individually, they didn't even know they had seen the exact same things flying around at incredible speeds and start stops.
They are among us, and both of my Nephews can discuss this without any real regrets. One is a Bio-tech engineer (B.s.) and the other a school teacher (A.s.) so good witnesses for sure with very intriguing tale to tell. ;)
With Great Respect,
1WW
The first ufo in the film looks very much like a police or military spy-drone, or camera platform that uses 2 counter rotating props on top, you wouldn't see them in the film if they were painted grey, they also resemble flying dustbins, like that one in the film.
And i think some of these 'lights in the sky' are actually project BlueBeam laser holograms, designed to confuse us further.
But the last 2 scenes in the first vid were interesting, to say the least, even drones don't make 90 degree turns, nor can they accellerate & decellerate like that.
This smacks of AG tech, very advanced AG tech.
But even then, it could be of human manufacture, even the cloaking tech is that good, we know that.
I would hesitate to say it was ET, but if it was, then they were maybe interested in seeing a real Human Disaster firsthand, seeing how we react etc.
The second & third films look a little fake, IMHO
Just my 2 cents.
Objects seen over another Nuclear sight..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfLKkQSk2tI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6Bf0-maRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TVOnYxOaug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEww1_Y5F7c
But here, seen below well into the reports the same Phenomena shown above was reported over Russia ! NOT Taiwan !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjelS2etqQ4
So are we about to witness FALSE Disclosure on a massive scale ?
Perhaps a desperate and Vain attempt to Cover, Hide and bury the Truth ?
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/nuclear.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjViIruHoMY
http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/IT-UFO_spotted_over_UK_nuclear_plant-2008097.html
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on December 22, 2012, 11:21:56 PM
The first UFO in the film looks very much like a police or military spy-drone, or camera platform that uses 2 counter rotating props on top, you wouldn't see them in the film if they were painted grey, they also resemble flying dustbins, like that one in the film.
Well, if they were 'drones' per say, they would have acknowledged that I think as part of the news report, and also, if they had the footage and then chopped it for mainstream, "Why would they do that?" I personally think that we don't know what it is and there for constitutes being a UFO.
I am aware of the 'Flying Dustbins' Luke, and if a news broadcaster was aware of the tech being used during this incidents, they would have bragged it up as a "Government is control with every technology" aspect.
Though I can't say proof positive you aren't correct, for what ever reason why they never mentioned it, it seems odd that these particular type of crafts have been seen all over the world and throughout time i.e. Aurora TX incidence 1886. IMHO
QuoteAnd i think some of these 'lights in the sky' are actually project BlueBeam laser holograms, designed to confuse us further.
This too would be to thwart the truth in my understanding of how the PTB have too play the trivia game, disinformation and disrespectful debunking as it were, is the catalyst as too let other individuals, especially skeptics, to right these of with no remorse of the truth being held from them.
QuoteBut the last 2 scenes in the first vid were interesting, to say the least, even drones don't make 90 degree turns, nor can they accellerate & decellerate like that.
This smacks of AG tech, very advanced AG tech.
And isn't it strange, we , here at PRC have the hopes and dreams of unveiling such technologies? Just saying, "More too this than meets the eye."
QuoteBut even then, it could be of human manufacture, even the cloaking tech is that good, we know that.
Anything we have seen as evidence can then be duplicated Luke, if it weren't for some of these sighting's in the first place, there would be nothing too build these models on, I do know there are those out there that have like minds to confuse and embarrass the UFO community, so, as the ancient civilizations did with cave depictions of what they had seen, we must do as a means of entertainment, because "WE" know it can be faked. Very fine line there between fact or fraud PWM, in my IMHO.
QuoteI would hesitate to say it was ET, but if it was, then they were maybe interested in seeing a real Human Disaster firsthand, seeing how we react etc.
The second & third films look a little fake, IMHO
Just my 2 cents.
I was listening to C2C when that guy called in via web-cast, it was very alarming, and with all things being of a more human nature "Nobody knows what exactly happened." It did cross my mind of how Orwell had produced mass hysteria with his "War of the Worlds" broadcast, but, with further understanding of the cal, how it was lost and the over all confusion, distraught and apparently scared out of his mind this caller was, I am leaning toward something did happen too him or he knew something that he didn't get a chance to get out before the disconnection took place.
We can fake anything with todays technology apparently, and this is why I think it illegal to do this to the mindset of the earthly population, if we didn't have trickster's and hoaxer's and only spoke the truth of what was being seen, heard and reported of these events, we may very well have had ht answer's by now too all of it.
We are a very primitive societal Globe, and we are viewed as such from being's from another plain of understanding.
What is fact or Fraud with in these videos Matrix has provided is moot for point, but I do know that there has too be some truth of these events being a fact of life and just being candy coated (Debunker's/Hoaxer's & Skeptics) and disarrayed too project negative insight to the whole UFO Phenomena.
Over the years, I have had my fare share of sightings, ever since I was a young child, though my sightings have seemingly subsided from what they used to be as far as count goes, I truly know, without anybodies insight of these events, that they are real, they are here and they are really good at what we seek, stellar space voyaging.
Great thread Matrix, really interesting about the whole Fukishima connection. :)
1Worldwatcher
i think it was shultz that told jimmy kimmel that aliens are more yellow than green.
i think it was cheney that said who knows when asked about aliens.maybe that was code for W.H.O. knows. i think the world health organization may know the truth but how they know is what i dont understand.
To date I have NOT seen any Evidence, that the human species has any of this technology whatsoever, involving such transport systems or we would be using such, in Public transport today. The fact is we aren't and are still using primitive tech. founded in the 1800's which looks a little different yet the same tech.
Even those who cross-bred with the human species would NOT share these technologies by the fact they broke LIFE protocol in cross breeding with us. In other words they were treating us as an experiment, just to corrupt a species, the result of envy, or just for pure entertainment rejecting LIFE itself.
Any recovered technology from such, like in Roswell and many other incidents, involves craft of inferior technologies, and NOT those Systems introduced by LIFE to be used within the experience i.e. this Universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iGHTtw-I84
IF the military in fact had such knowledge and Ground & Support Companies were capable of reproducing such, the military would NOT waist their time on any other technologies, such as tanks, Aircraft, Rocket tech., Drones or any other technologies we have today.
And 9/11 would never have been permitted to have happened.
Something is very, very wrong re. "Intelligence", supposedly to exist.
The Gov. is still seen to panic over the breakdown in our "Intelligence Operations", yet they continually claim the existence of their High tech. Society. LOL.
The so called High tech. suggested to exist, produced by the human species, is straight out B.S.
It simply exists, in the dreams of those outside the knowledge of what actually is or is Not the position regarding the human species.
If such a "Conspiracy" exists, regarding World power, it is in Vain, and leads absolutely nowhere, regarding Power !
So if some have total power over the human species then what ?
It is Laughable !
This sort of power and Ambition, is totally useless, pathetic, childish, a total waist of effort, Gov. $$$$'s, and Time.
What is in the future is NOT controlled by any "flesh", Alien or others in this universe !
Nor any god of the human imagination.
All the human Imaginations about these things being Controlled by the human species, or Alien entities, or a god, is based on pure Ignorance, fear, the feeling of NOT being in Control, and at the Mercy of the "Story" i.e. your experiences of both the human flesh, and its Environment it appears to be in.
All the Phenomena (UFO) is presently being Exploited by the human species, for their own aspirations and dreams, involving Gov. Religious groups, Sceptics, fraudsters, scammers, the generating of $$$$$$$'s, personal fears and dreams.
But the Question remains; WHY is this phenomena still appearing before natural calamities esp. Earthquakes and tsunami's and also appearing around Nuclear sights, and other facilities involving human tech. research.
Even 9/11 had its many UFO sightings before and during this tragic event.
Still NOT understood by the public today but I bet ex Pres. Bush knows ?
Activity of this phenomena also accelerates during wartime but both sides play games, trying to use this to scar the enemy, yet both do NOT have such technology !
The proof of this is seen by the fact that the military still use our primitive technologies i.e. aircraft and ground based technologies !
If Hitler had access to such "technologies", then he would not have lost the 2nd WW.
Look, today we ONLY have the "Internal combustion engine" (in different forms) to propel our transport (Invented in the late 1700's and early 1800's) comprising of "Piston Engines", "Rotary Engines", "Jet Engines" (including Fan Jets) and "Rocket Engines". (All very, very, primitive "Internal Combustion Engines")
If the Human Species had the technologies of those, else where in this universe we would certainly NOT be using our technology today !
So WHY then, do we still see this phenomena (UFO so called ) in our skies and we still haven't copied or produced such technologies ourselves, and the same old debates still go on, collecting more and more of the same B.S. with no further developments, except further B.S. ?
Look even M.S. is still trying to correct all the bugs in their own software since Win 97. LOL.
Yet Linux is said to be free of this... but I bet Linux also has its own problems too.
I haven't used Linux yet, but I do know of some using it, and will never return to M.S. again !
Most of the "Software" I use, is full of bugs involving Math !
It is a constant battle, solving these bugs, just to write reliable programs.
I had been in Business, Designing and Manufacturing Computers for the Automotive Industry, and became totally disillusioned by the lack of tech.
Yes I made a few $$$$$$$'s but that was all, but I did get a deeper insight into human tech., or the lack of Tech. LOL.
I closed my business, (no one could raise the money at the time to buy me out, and it would be cheaper anyway, to just start up another business) when I discovered a whole New Computer System, and made the decision to go as far as I could, in reproducing this rediscovered technologies, and attempt to use what little tech. we have today to make use of it.
So I am NOT convinced we have "State of the art Tech." today.
One of the things that inspired me in the first place, was the exposure to instances which took place in the 1970's involving Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. This involved being One of a number of people, trying to Identify the origin of such, which appeared in our air space. The origin was never Identified, even though some of the Tech. was recovered from a Crash site.
The other was from the 1990's and 2,000 era when I became involved with personal contact with some NOT of Earth.
I understand such contacts are in fact more common than most believe.
But most don't speak out about their own experiences, for obvious reasons.
So what's all this UFO phenomena really about, and what is the connection, with Nuclear Tech. and natural disasters then ?
Think I mentioned on this forum these charges against Assange were trumped up and now I know why.
Around three and a half years ago I pm'd the Watcher Barry King when I was a member of Project Avalon and asked him whether the vision I saw about a UFO base under ocean would be correct. He said he would get back to me once he contacted one of his colleages who would know. Obviously with what has been going on for years I picked up some how.
When I listened to that video that SITD posted regarding the insider on C2C re under ocean ufo bases and multi nation fleets going to the area I began to pick up other stuff, but immediately stopped it cuz I knew I would be upset with what I saw.
The good thing is there are the good ones around too monitoring what's going on.
It's a wonder the US government has been able to keep somewhat of a lid on this whole thing publicly, but 2013 is going to be very busy for their agencies and fleets.
i usually dont get into dreams and visions but one time i prayed about life.a few days later i had a very real dream of me on a school bus and my dead grandfather waving goodby to me.
so maybe this life is a school or maybe the alien tech is being kept hidden just in case aliens do attack,we will have the upper hand against them.or were saving it for ww3.
the tech is out there but its buried in crap.
these days the new tech is survelance.drones,stop light cameras,fish and wildife license machines,cellphones,computers,tvs,power meters.
the laws are still being broken but they cant arrest everybody so what happens is the computer does a threat matrix and determines who they go after.
the biggest threat has the most scheduled drive bys by police.
eventually they will wait until you break enough laws,then they charge you with the list.its easier to win multiple charges against one person than one charge and it brings in more revenues.
the tech of tomorrow will be autonimous robot cops.
if a robocop cant bring you in peacably then a drone will be sent in to tranquilize you.
underground will be the only safe place.
instead of flying with the angels we will be digging with the worms.
QuoteWhen I listened to that video that SITD posted regarding the insider on C2C re under ocean ufo bases and multi nation fleets going to the area I began to pick up other stuff, but immediately stopped it cuz I knew I would be upset with what I saw.
I can understand...
It will be interesting over the next few years...
If only the human species (esp. the Gove. and other Institutions) would concentrate on the Truth instead of Propagating lies and disinformation but sadly I guess this is the human phenomenon.
When the species (includes my flesh) overcomes the world i.e. puts fear and superstition aside, then we will be able to see clearly, the truth.
Until then, sadly I think we are going so see more of what we have seen in the past, until the time of Education comes about.
In other words
WHEN are we going to take more notice of The
LIFE i.e. our "
Real Selves" experiencing all this (The "Story") instead of relying on the human brain to interpret everything ?
Using Brain power is futile and has already failed before we even start, because of this "
Double Logic" embedded in the Human Genome.
The only way around this, is to come to know and understand the Processing System of "
The True Mind" i.e.
LIFE.
But this will take many years yet I believe.
Meanwhile why was there this Aerial phenomena seen near Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant and Over Japan ?
What is the Connection ?
Can we find out and what this Aerial phenomena really is ?
And
NOT what we want it to be !
Quoteso maybe this life is a school or maybe the alien tech is being kept hidden just in case aliens do attack,we will have the upper hand against them.or were saving it for ww3.
the tech is out there but its buried in crap.
You are
100% correct there robomont... :D
But are Aliens at war with us, or is it only a minority and if so, will we witness a war taking place just outside the Earth, involving Aliens
ONLY.
The future will be Interesting I guess ... :D
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on December 22, 2012, 08:44:35 PM
What is All this about ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9byOXXa2WY
Part 0ne the big white one is a building LOL It only appears to move because the helicopter taking the picture is moving. The white object is actually stationary
In the second part I see a helicopter (you can see the tail and bladed even without enhancement and then an airliner passes by low and a bug close to the lens
So No UFO's in that one only 3 IFO's and one ISO (Identified Stationary Object)
QuoteHow much UFO Activity has been seen around other Nuclear power Stations and Research institutions around the world and how often ?
A lot but most of them are critters feeding on the EMP :D The draw on that EMF was what triggered that nuke shutdown in the 60's... because back then we didn't have very protected equipment yet
Ah you get my point there Z.... and yes you have a valid point...
I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts on this re. "Critters" :D
Quote from: biggles on December 23, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Think I mentioned on this forum these charges against Assange were trumped up and now I know why.
Can you point me to ONE document that Assange and Wikileaks leaked that tells us anything important? In our categories, not which diplomat slept with whom and who insulted each other..
Thanks :D
Z you are 100% on target re. "Critters" :D
Is it just a case, the human species is trying to brain washing others in vain ?
What actually are these Critters, and what is their "Function" in the system ?
Do they have some organized structure involving Processing ?
Or do the just consume energy ?
Or are we seeing like "Windows" to another world/s ?
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on December 23, 2012, 10:15:34 PM
I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts on this re. "Critters" :D
Back in the 60's there were many sightings of glowing plasma objects see near power plants and powerlines. In fact it is still considered by many that this 'leeching' energy off the power grid was what cause that big eastern seaboard blackout.
The Disclosure guys that said they saw "UFO's bear the nuke base that cascaded the shut down describes them as glowing energy blobs not hard spacecraft. In those days a sudden draw on energy would have triggered an automatic shutdown of the system.
If you live near power lines you can make a device that can leach the electricity the same way critters do :D but that is now illegal (despite the em radiation is going out anyway) and does show a draw at the power company
So yeah CRITTERS feeding accounts for most of those type sightings, same critters in the STS 75 and 80 films... same critters seen around thunderstorms and same critters seen on Venus by RVers.... errrmmmm oops I wasn't supposed to say that :o
I keep saying CRITTERS account for 80%ish of UFO sightings that are not faked etc Denise Stoner ex gov investigator and head of MUFON Florida says 50%ish but we are on the same page
Every see that critter birth video?
::)
Quote from: zorgon on December 23, 2012, 10:30:13 PM
Back in the 60's there were many sightings of glowing plasma objects see near power plants and powerlines. In fact it is still considered by many that this 'leeching' energy off the power grid was what cause that big eastern seaboard blackout.
The Disclosure guys that said they saw "UFO's bear the nuke base that cascaded the shut down describes them as glowing energy blobs not hard spacecraft. In those days a sudden draw on energy would have triggered an automatic shutdown of the system.
If you live near power lines you can make a device that can leach the electricity the same way critters do :D but that is now illegal (despite the em radiation is going out anyway) and does show a draw at the power company
So yeah CRITTERS feeding accounts for most of those type sightings, same critters in the STS 75 and 80 films... same critters seen around thunderstorms and same critters seen on Venus by RVers.... errrmmmm oops I wasn't supposed to say that :o
I keep saying CRITTERS account for 80%ish of UFO sightings that are not faked etc Denise Stoner ex gov investigator and head of MUFON Florida says 50%ish but we are on the same page
Every see that critter birth video?
::)
Again
Z 100% Correct, I have witnessed such a power outage myself caused by one of these... :D
QuoteEvery see that critter birth video?
Sorry Z... No. but can you please post a copy here ?
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on December 23, 2012, 06:05:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEww1_Y5F7c
Progress M-03M (35P) launches to ISS from Baikonur Cosmodrome. here is the ORIGINAL RosKosmos live footage. The four "UFO's" that are seen are the four booster rockets falling away and make a pattern known as Korelev's Cross. The object is not falling... it is merely going down range and APPEARS to be going down. Russian launches are spectacular and can be seen hundreds oof miles from the launch site because the plume is high and thus lit by the dun in space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9em4purRjc
QuoteBut here, seen below well into the reports the same Phenomena shown above was reported over Russia ! NOT Taiwan !
beacuse it WAS over Russia when launched but Russian launches can be SEEN from China... Beside all the Youtube MORONS just cut and paste and make wild claims.
Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjelS2etqQ4
The photos in the start of the video below... those are long exposure of airplanes... then the other "UFO" is another Russian launch this time a Soyuz 9 launching a Meridian Satellite. Its a spectacular capture and you can see stage separation. I have added the original below.
What pisses me off is that main steam news media is BULL poopTING. The UFO that cause the airport shutdown was a RADAR sighting not a visual sighting. But a RADAR sighting is not spactacular... so lets use a rocket launch and call it a UFO instead
Meridian Satellite
Launch site: Plesetsk
Launch date: May 22, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnszlJC8iGs
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on December 23, 2012, 10:34:54 PM
Sorry Z... No. but can you please post a copy here ?
No :P
Sigh.... sometimes Zorgon wonders why he bothers to make threads that no one reads :D
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2635.0
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/04images/Rocket_Launches/ZA007.png)
Mistaken for UFO's
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/menu.html#Mistaken
So why are these claimed to be UFO's LOL...
You see the whole scenario is driven by the Human Species.
But WHY ?
Some are "Alien" but "Transport Interfaces" come in all sorts of Projections... LOL.
The Reason why I refer to them as "Transport" Interfaces is because they are nothing like our craft at all and involve something quite different.
But we Can produce the same !
These represent more an Interface rather than a Craft. :D
You are 100% correct re. "Critters" !
If "Critters" feed on Energy (which in fact they Do !) where is all that Energy going to ?
And more to the Point what is a "Critter" and what is its make up ?
Thanks for the links Z.
It will take some time to sift through it all. :D
I have read some or much in fact.
To speed things up, can you please point me to the place, where the birth of a critter is presented ?
Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on December 23, 2012, 11:16:27 PM
To speed things up, can you please point me to the place, where the birth of a critter is presented ?
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2635.msg36808#msg36808
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/Florida_Sept_05_2005.html
Seems Google has killed it once again
Quote from: zorgon on December 23, 2012, 10:21:23 PM
Can you point me to ONE document that Assange and Wikileaks leaked that tells us anything important? In our categories, not which diplomat slept with whom and who insulted each other..
Thanks :D
Wikileaks were going to publish their information about the undersea bases and the war, but the government suppressed it and shut him down and got him arrested by that honey trap plot.
View the video Z.
NOTE;
I have made absolutely NO Claim any of these involve Alien Craft (In layman's terms)
But I have mentioned that there is a connection between reported sightings, Nuclear Facilities and natural Disasters, including the unnatural 9/11 episode.
The association is at a human Level, involving the human Species...
But what I am bringing you attention to, is why this is being done and by whom ?
Even re. so called "Critters" little is really understood by most !
In spite of much written material and photos in the public sector.
Quote from: zorgon on December 23, 2012, 11:22:16 PM
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=2635.msg36808#msg36808
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/49ufo_files/03files2/Florida_Sept_05_2005.html
Seems Google has killed it once again
Thanks Z.... re.
Seems Google has killed it once again you ain't wrong.. :D
Just skimming the thread here :D Fascinating stuff!
I'm happy to see Matrix & Zorgon find something they both like.
No time to read all of it, i'll leave that to the experts ;)
QuoteIf "Critters" feed on Energy (which in fact they Do !) where is all that Energy going to ?
Creating more critters, perhaps ::)
QuoteAnd more to the Point what is a "Critter" and what is its make up ?
That is something i would like to see you guys thrash out for me ;)
Later!
Re Critters...
I think you will find that these Critters are NOT a type of Plasma, but rather the Plasma is only a small component of the processes taking place...
It's funny how the human species thinks everything is/are "Energy Based Systems".... LOL.
All that the Human Species is seeing is the end result, and NOT what is Producing everything,
or HOW it is being produced !
In the future this will change though, as our understanding matures.
There is Energy being transferred at times, but where is this "Energy" going to or in other cases coming from I wonder ?
side trip (tell P not to look ;))
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/28/fukushima-sailors-lawsuit/1797053/
U.S. sailors sue Japanese utility over radiation
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Eight U.S. sailors are suing the Tokyo utility that operates the Fukushima nuclear power plant, charging that the company lied about the high level of radiation in the area where they were carrying out a humanitarian mission after the tsunami that triggered the reactor crisis.
The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court in San Diego last week against Tokyo Electric Power Co., which is owned by the Japanese government. Plaintiffs include the infant daughter of two of the sailors who was born seven months after the March 2011 disaster.
The sailors served on the San Diego-based aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan, which was carrying out "Operation Tomadachi" ferrying food and water to citizens in the city of Sendai in the wake of the earthquake and tsunami.
continued at link
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/28/fukushima-sailors-lawsuit/1797053/
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They say they are at risk for developing cancer and a shorter life expectancy, and are undergoing considerable mental anguish as a result.
The sailors are suing for more than $US100 million ($A96.8 million) in damages.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/us-sailors-sue-tepco-over-radiation/story-e6frfkui-1226544974898#ixzz2GP1ZxcrR
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http://japandailypress.com/us-sailors-sue-tepco-and-japanese-government-for-lying-about-radiation-risks-2720482
Some people, however, hold a different opinion. The USS Ronald Reagan was supposedly docked 100 miles away from the plant, which is far beyond the evacuation distance recommended not only by Japan but by the U.S. government as well. Some media reported that the amount of radiation that the sailors were exposed to was less than that received from a month of exposure to background radiation from the sun.
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http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/earthquake-disaster-in-japan/us-sailors-sue-japanese-utility-over-radiation-exposure-1.202197
Their complaint, filed in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, seeks a jury trial and damages of $40 million each for being "rendered infirm" and their bodies being "poisoned" by radiation. It was filed on behalf of Lindsay Cooper, James Sutton, Kim Gieseking, Charles Yarris, Robert Miller, Christopher Bittner, Eric Membrila and Judy Goodwin.
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Six of the eight sailors worked on the flight deck during the operation and two worked in the air contamination department. Gieseking is also suing on behalf of her daughter, Autumn, who was born shortly after the deployment.
The sailors allege a host of medical conditions, from headaches and difficulty concentrating to rectal bleeding and thyroid problems, as a result of the exposure and say they will have to undergo more medical tests and expensive treatments in the future, their lawyer Paul Garner said Thursday. The sailors also want TEPCO, which has an office in Washington, D.C., to establish a $100 million fund to pay for any of their future medical expenses.
there is a lot more but i think this is a fair overview..so a search for more
or go read all the links
::)
Yes its an ugly situation isn't it sky ?
If I had my way ALL NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS, would be decommissioned....
NOT tomorrow, but instead TODAY !
There is absolutely NO NEED whatsoever for Nuclear Energy !
Now about this "Areal Phenomena" around Nuclear Instantiations, and before Natural disasters etc.
What's your thoughts to what these are ?
UFO's / USO's ?
Critters ?
Infiltration of Disinformation ?
Or What ?
hi Matrix
were you asking moi?
hummmmmmmmmm
well
there are all kinds of things - beings? / elementals? / critters ?
that aren't conscientiously recognized by the human brain
but are seen in a quick peripheral glance or an obscured blur
and since the brain doesn't seem to recognize them it's kinda hard to categorize (name) them
i know something is t/here....
i know something has interferred with the nuclear stuff....but that may just be a side affect of what is really happening
i don't know what is really happening ..just what some have tried to explain
sooooo, i guess for me
any of those labels is fine...
lol...sorry to be unhelpful on the labeling and thus the conjecture of who's doing what
but i do agree that the whole nuclear thing is unneccessay and beyond dangerous to all
::)
UFO's and Atomic sites have had a continuing connection since 1947.
C2C AM has an upcoming show related to this topic -
Montana UFOs/ Open Lines
Date: 01-04-13
Host: George Noory
Guests: Joan Bird, Open Lines
In the first half, researcher of unexplained phenomena Joan Bird will discuss recently declassified government documents, historic reports, and first-hand interviews pertaining to numerous sightings of UFOs around Montana's Minuteman missile silos, as well as sightings of Bigfoot and other anomalous creatures. Followed by Open Lines.
Website(s):
montanaufos.com
Book(s):
Montana UFOs and Extraterrestrials
Thank you for that Info "Watcher", and hope others will also come forward
and give their thoughts as well.
There appears to be many different things going on with regards to this Phenomena.
Perhaps we could categorise some under different headings, giving the various types
of Information, both, Disinformation and Genuine Instances.
Alien, Critters, human interests, involving Disinformation and many other other types.
There also appears to many types of Phenomena, involving Different classes of Aerial activity.
Can we sort these out and Categorise these as well ?
Thanks once again "Watcher"... and look forward to more of your thoughts on this.
UFO's and Atomic sites have had a continuing connection since 1947.
well they are ufo's because they are not identified..unidentified flying objects...
not every ufo is the same as the next ufo..
my point was
we know something is there..
and that is all we really know
not what they are or who
or if they are the same in different areas
or what they are really doing
or
if the interference is their main objective
or a side affect of something else
maybe they are the firetrucks of the universe and
nuclear enercy is the siren to call them in
maybe they are a side creation of certain nuclear things and drain the energy in their birth
my point was all we know is that something is there and
currently any one name is as good as any other at this point
to make any comprehensive comments you need knowledge
and quite truthfully all we have is hearsay
unless
someone here has actually seen them or their effect in person (besides you A51)
so sorry to be a pain
but i am really getting tired of nothing but conjecture on everything
instead of being on a fact finding mission
the only thing brought to the table is opinion..yours - mine - and others
sigh
::)
i am agreeing with matrix.. in my own w(?)itchy way...sigh
Quotemy point was all we know is that something is there and
currently any one name is as good as any other at this point
to make any comprehensive comments you need knowledge
and quite truthfully all we have is hearsay
unless
someone here has actually seen them or their effect in person (besides you A51)
Yes there is....
LOL Myself... :o
But how many realise this ?
Even though I have made claim to this, many others disbelieve, right me off as a liar, or just another nutter ?
I am
NOT wanting anyone to
believe or
disbelieve me, as this is totally irrelevant, but rather to consider or
think about some of what I am writing !
Many only seek to undermine, disprove or want proof, in the form of photos, but frankly photos is
NOT proof, but only acts as a decoy, where others would rather argue over such photos,
without moving forward !
So this is why I started my forums starting at the beginning before any Universe or any other World existed, apart from a Non Dimensional world having Awareness which is referred to as
LIFE.
They have nothing at all to do with any religion, even though I do make reference to religious writings from time to time, but this is merely to demonstrate that the human species, has made reference in history to some of what I am talking about, even if not understood today.
So I am
NOT about religion or to get religious in any way, shape or form !
But sadly such information has been made into a religion, rather than others trying to understand what some of these ancients were trying to show, in their
OWN way and Time, which is sadly
NOT understood at all today. :(
I know the Dictionary definition of the word,
LIFE refers to the "
flesh", but this is the very
ROOT of the whole problem, in that the "
flesh" (The Human Species) is at
WAR against
LIFE and tries to
Covet LIFE in Vain.
We also go to
WAR and kill others because this is the tantrum the flesh throws, when the flesh can't get its own way.
It is the reason we
can't Recognise
LIFE.
If we stop our
WAR against
LIFE we may come to recognise
WHAT LIFE really is.
If we Stop this
WAR against
LIFE then we come to discover
LIFE is just another word for "
AWARENESS" and/or "
SELF AWARENESS".
This is to
Find or discover
LIFE.
So
OK there is
LIFE and its "
Experience" it is having.
These
2 are completely different. So
WHY do people always ask me the Question
WHERE do these,
NOT of the Earth come From ?
Well it's because most can't understand the difference between the
LIFE and the "
flesh".
If
LIFE is
NOT in the experience or this Universe yet exists it then has to be
OUTSIDE what we believe this Universe to be ! :o
And this is where the "
ROOT" of the problem Lays.
You may well ask what the Hell has all this to do with "
Aliens", "
Critters" and other "
Areal Phenomena".
Well when you come to realise (Find) the above regarding the difference between
LIFE and the "
flesh", you will then realise that Nothing at all, is alive in your Experience i.e. this Universe, apart from your "
REAL SELF" which is a droplet or Partition of
LIFE and
NOT the "
Flesh".
So everything then takes on a
completely different understanding, of both our selves and the World we Experience.
We don't need to get all religious or Superstitious or into any other human nonsense.
Just realise the
Difference between the
LIFE and the "
flesh" or experience !
So the origin of the
LIVING is
LIFE and
NOT from some planet or other in a Universe.
If you can accept this then you have overcome the
ROOT of the Problem with regard to understanding
ALL the so far, unidentified "
Aerial Phenomena" you see or hear about.
I myself have experienced
1st hand Alien species, some of their "
Transport", as well as many of their other "
Technologies".
Most of the "
Technologies" involve the
Processing System which all is made Manifest through.
1st of all the so called Universe does
NOT exist, as you are led to
believe today, by those
appearing to be more educated.
In fact your visual experience only involves your Field of Vision and Not an entire Universe at the same time.
When you come to realise this then you can understand there is much less involved than you have ever thought.
What you in fact experience, in your field of Vision comes through a Program or "
Processing System" and that You are
NOT in a Universe, as you are led to believe.
Having said this, the "
Program" is constructed in such a way as to make it feel as though you are
INSIDE a Dimensional Universe.
So what each of us experience is far more personal on an
individual level than what is understood at present.
Let's see if we can take the next step in understanding this "
Aerial Phenomena" then, especially its Connection to....
a. Nuclear facilities.
and
b. Natural disasters.
In the case of
Fukushema and
Japan as a whole, it would appear that both these two were involved or been reported.
Sadly we can only go by what was reported in the news media and any private videos.
This doesn't make our job any easier in fact it is made more difficult.
If we can't get anything of help from the photos etc. then we can only relate to the fact that these may have been witnessed, or on the "
Opposite note", have been
invented.
So we are left with the Dates, Times and Locations of these aerial Phenomena.
This can then be split IF possible into
2 Primary Groups of Data !
a. Authentic
or
b. Disinformation.
The Latter is a huge area on its own involving Fantasy but it is the former which interests me.
There can be found a pattern involving Dates, Times and Locations.
So let's look at a bit more of this.
Regarding "
Dates", this is self explanatory...
Regarding "
Time", we could do some research regarding what time this aerial Phenomena appears with regard to a disaster, the duration involved while visual, and how long they were present after the disaster.
The other Data relates to how many days was the "
Aerial Phenomena" seen, before the disaster, and each day they were witnessed.
Now if this data involving all Disasters is compared, even the disasters such "
Aerial Phenomena" was
NOT witnessed (just as Important) we might get a clearer picture, of the behaviour of this "
Areal Phenomena".
Especially if each of the "
Aerial Phenomena" are compared.
We can separate this data into two areas...
a. Common features.
and
b. Different features.
So let's see what we can all find...
So what each of us experience is far more personal on an individual level than what is understood at present.
a solid yes to that... my experience has left me wondering if it was real..was what i saw
a brain/ other experience or a physical my eyes beheld it experience?
and then does it really matter.
my questions go to to why i needed to see it and what/how it has changed me..to have i just changed myself
and then i think of whenever two or more are touching emotionally
are we as a group creating these sightings as a way to convince ourselves that
there is a solution to such a problem as nuclear energy
so do we compare notes on what we saw or how what we think we saw affects us?
8)
Quote from: sky otter on December 30, 2012, 11:19:05 PM
So what each of us experience is far more personal on an individual level than what is understood at present.
a solid yes to that... my experience has left me wondering if it was real..was what i saw
a brain/ other experience or a physical my eyes beheld it experience?
and then does it really matter.
my questions go to to why i needed to see it and what/how it has changed me..to have i just changed myself
and then i think of whenever two or more are touching emotionally
are we as a group creating these sightings as a way to convince ourselves that
there is a solution to such a problem as nuclear energy
so do we compare notes on what we saw or how what we think we saw affects us?
8)
Ah Sky, you are
now getting my point. Very good...
Quoteso do we compare notes on what we saw or how what we think we saw affects us?
YES... To understand more about our selves.
As you have pointed out; Perhaps it involves our selves
Individually and may have Nothing at all to do with what most think today !
For example just because the Hubble telescope can take photos of what appears to be a universe, does
Not imply that what we experience is
Not a "
Program" ("
Story") involving a
Collective back ground, in the form of a "
Program" much like a "
1st person"
Video Game on a network...
Quite the opposite in fact... LOL.
Some Scientists are Now,
slowly becoming aware of this.
At the End of the Day, it is the
Change taking Place in the nature or Character of the "
Real Self" i.e.
LIFE, and
NOT the
flesh which is the most Important Function of all.
The
flesh is but temporary, but "
The Real You" i.e.
LIFE is "
Eternal" and Can't die, because it is a "
Partition" of
LIFE and
Not Death.!
i have to admit,i too am coming around to believing in the life matrix thing.
on the subject of phenomena showing itself before disaster,theres a book called the gods of eden.it basically says aliens have been behind most of mankinds hardships and death.
if its to push us along a certain evolutionary path,then its seems to be successful.
the downfall being it impresses the value of life on us.
if life of the flesh is not of much value then they really screwed up on that one because alot of tears have been shead over it.
i sometimes think cartman from southpark said it best,god feeds on the tears of the innocent.
he must be one fatass bastard.
Quoteif life of the flesh is not of much value then they really screwed up on that one because alot of tears have been shead over it.
But
flesh is very important as it is the Experience.
But what most believe the world to be about isn't at all.
LIFE is the Most Important as
LIFE Can't Die, unlike the Flesh.
The whole experience of the human species has a Function or Purpose, but it isn't anything at all what most desire or expect.
What is greater ? The "
Person" or the "
Garment" ?
The same applies to
LIFE...
What is Greater ?
LIFE or the "
Garment" i.e. the
flesh ?
It is the "
Question" we ask, which is
Important because it Invokes the
Answer.
Ask the
Right "
Questions" and we will discover The
Right "
Answers".
But if we ask the
Wrong "
Questions" then we discover the
Wrong "
Answers" !
A "Challenge" can also
represent, a "
Question" !
So the Challenge is made......
robomont
Quotei sometimes think cartman from southpark said it best,god feeds on the tears of the innocent.
he must be one fatass bastard.
Some may be offended by this, but
LIFE sees it as a "
Question".
So you will certainly discover the
Right "
Answer".
It is
ONLY the
Flesh which Condemns both
LIFE and the
Flesh( "
The Real You" is
NOT the
Flesh though... LOL )
but the
Right "
Answers" lay in
LIFE i.e. "
The Real Self" and
NOT the
Flesh.
When I look to the
Flesh I fail every time, but
IF I turn to
LIFE I find
TRUTH.
Even if I don't sometimes like it. :(
But the "
Story" is all about
wakening up to the Difference between the
Fleshi.e. the experience and
LIFE.
It is Extreme in this experience for a reason so we will choose Correctly,
LIFE in the End !
But we should
NOT Love the "
Tree" and
Hate its "
Fruit" !
Nor
Love the "
Fruit" and
Hate the "
Tree".
But Rather
Love the "
Tree" and
Love its "
Fruit" !
Even if its "
Fruit" is Bitter at times.
You can't have the "
Sweetness" without the "
Bitter" (Its
Opposite)
If there was only the "
Sweetness" or the "
Bitter" you would have Nothing to compare it with..
So you would
Not know you had "
tasted" anything.
tmt,i agree with everything you said in that last post.
after years of being a religious zealot ,straitie
i decided to live my life ,rules be damned.
if something brings me pleasure then i go for all i want.
amazingly i found that i can do anything i wanted as long as i didnt brag.keeping ones mouth shut goes a long way in this "too many laws" world.
my only rule is my conscience must be clear.dads hide your daughters,lol
since i made that personal choice,im as happy as can be.the world really is my oyster and i choose to pig out.
where it leads me i dont yet know but the trip has been a blast so far.
what holds most people back is all the lies they were taught as children.
Quotewhere it leads me i dont yet know but the trip has been a blast so far.
Perhaps you
TRUST LIFE...
Quotewhat holds most people back is all the lies they were taught as children.
Now ain't that the
Truth !
I wish you all the very, very best for the New Year robomont.
Has anyone got information regarding "Aerial Phenomena" around Nuclear Facilities
or around natural disasters, regarding descriptions, locations, dates, and times etc. ?
It would be interesting to see if a common theme can be discovered.